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Banksy print for sale??, by Mike Marcus on Dec 7, 2010 23:31:41 GMT 1, Hello Hello
When did the Banksy forum become the "Urban Art Association"? Makes it sound somehow official, like you represent the interests of urban artists :-P
Does anyone have a Banksy print for sale? Doesn't matter which one as long as it is signed, limited edition and you don't mind it getting "re-appropriated" for artistic purposes.
Ta
Mike
Hello Hello
When did the Banksy forum become the "Urban Art Association"? Makes it sound somehow official, like you represent the interests of urban artists :-P
Does anyone have a Banksy print for sale? Doesn't matter which one as long as it is signed, limited edition and you don't mind it getting "re-appropriated" for artistic purposes.
Ta
Mike
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Banksy print for sale??, by wizzy on Dec 8, 2010 0:01:29 GMT 1, The "Re Appropriated" sounds interesting.
The "Re Appropriated" sounds interesting.
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Banksy print for sale??, by Mike Marcus on Dec 8, 2010 13:53:09 GMT 1, I have been making minimalist sculpture from paper mâché recently. The paper usually comes from meaningful sources: newspaper headlines, holy books, etc. I have a commission for a small work and I thought it would be fun to create a piece from another artists work. I'm interested in using a Banksy print for a couple of reasons, not least because he uses really nice paper.
I know people can be a bit funny about this type of thing so I thought it best to be upfront to the seller.
I have been making minimalist sculpture from paper mâché recently. The paper usually comes from meaningful sources: newspaper headlines, holy books, etc. I have a commission for a small work and I thought it would be fun to create a piece from another artists work. I'm interested in using a Banksy print for a couple of reasons, not least because he uses really nice paper.
I know people can be a bit funny about this type of thing so I thought it best to be upfront to the seller.
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Banksy print for sale??, by Michael Jacob on Dec 8, 2010 15:57:30 GMT 1, Mike
Like youre idea, but a signed print might not be cost effective. You might try to look for a back door print,or one thats damaged. It would be tons cheaper. I was going to do a re appropriated piece a few years back, but never got it off the ground. Good luck!
Mike
Like youre idea, but a signed print might not be cost effective. You might try to look for a back door print,or one thats damaged. It would be tons cheaper. I was going to do a re appropriated piece a few years back, but never got it off the ground. Good luck!
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Banksy print for sale??, by silvermyn on Dec 8, 2010 18:49:58 GMT 1, I have been making minimalist sculpture from paper mâché recently. The paper usually comes from meaningful sources: newspaper headlines, holy books, etc. I have a commission for a small work and I thought it would be fun to create a piece from another artists work. I'm interested in using a Banksy print for a couple of reasons, not least because he uses really nice paper. I know people can be a bit funny about this type of thing so I thought it best to be upfront to the seller.
Funny about this type of thing...?!
You might want to get hold of one that has been damaged already. It will be way cheaper and forum members won't be too funny about you mashing it up 
I have been making minimalist sculpture from paper mâché recently. The paper usually comes from meaningful sources: newspaper headlines, holy books, etc. I have a commission for a small work and I thought it would be fun to create a piece from another artists work. I'm interested in using a Banksy print for a couple of reasons, not least because he uses really nice paper. I know people can be a bit funny about this type of thing so I thought it best to be upfront to the seller. Funny about this type of thing...?! You might want to get hold of one that has been damaged already. It will be way cheaper and forum members won't be too funny about you mashing it up |
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Banksy print for sale??, by Harveyn on Dec 8, 2010 18:55:26 GMT 1, Mike I suggest you go for a Laugh Now or Kate. You will then need to send it to me so I can firstly confirm it to be authentic and then as a gesture cut it up into tiny pieces for you to aid the paper mâché process.
Now where did I put that MBW print....
Mike I suggest you go for a Laugh Now or Kate. You will then need to send it to me so I can firstly confirm it to be authentic and then as a gesture cut it up into tiny pieces for you to aid the paper mâché process.
Now where did I put that MBW print....
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Banksy print for sale??, by joeschmo on Dec 8, 2010 19:00:42 GMT 1, Very grey area is screwing over other artists work, quite disrespectful if you ask me.
Very grey area is screwing over other artists work, quite disrespectful if you ask me.
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Banksy print for sale??, by Mike Marcus on Dec 8, 2010 22:47:53 GMT 1, Joeschmo: why is it disrespectful?
Joeschmo: why is it disrespectful?
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Banksy print for sale??, by raiden on Dec 9, 2010 8:42:25 GMT 1, Its definitely desecration if its done to original works.
As for signed and numbered editions - there are more ways than one to look at it - as you aren't eliminating the only copy.
Some will hold it as akin to burning / destroying books, even though you may not be burning the only copy.
At the end of the day, however, you are reducing the total number of particular cherished works that is currently being enjoyed, to make a new piece of yet to be determined artistic value.
And even if you succeed in adding net value to art by destroying a print, you still did so through subtraction.
Personally, if you're hellbent on using a signed and numbered piece priced $1500+ to make a statement, then I'd use an Obama Hope piece. Certainly would have more meaning in general and could get the maximum amount of "attention" given the current backlash of the left in America against Obama.
But if it has to be a Banksy that is sacrificed, I don't see why it has to be a signed one.
And secondly, you've done some pretty great works at this point - contact Pest Control and propose whatever you're planning on doing and see if you can't arrange a printers proof of the most recent print or for them to give you a heads up on where to find a damaged print, etc.
Its definitely desecration if its done to original works.
As for signed and numbered editions - there are more ways than one to look at it - as you aren't eliminating the only copy.
Some will hold it as akin to burning / destroying books, even though you may not be burning the only copy.
At the end of the day, however, you are reducing the total number of particular cherished works that is currently being enjoyed, to make a new piece of yet to be determined artistic value.
And even if you succeed in adding net value to art by destroying a print, you still did so through subtraction.
Personally, if you're hellbent on using a signed and numbered piece priced $1500+ to make a statement, then I'd use an Obama Hope piece. Certainly would have more meaning in general and could get the maximum amount of "attention" given the current backlash of the left in America against Obama.
But if it has to be a Banksy that is sacrificed, I don't see why it has to be a signed one.
And secondly, you've done some pretty great works at this point - contact Pest Control and propose whatever you're planning on doing and see if you can't arrange a printers proof of the most recent print or for them to give you a heads up on where to find a damaged print, etc.
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Banksy print for sale??, by Mike Marcus on Dec 9, 2010 13:42:00 GMT 1, "Desecration" is a word usually reserved for religious objects. You might like Banksy but to imply that his work is holy seems to be going a little far.
As for the rest of your argument, I think we depart from a very similar point of view. Is it akin to book burning? It's a question I would truly wish the work to raise.
How do we judge cultural value? Does uniqueness imply a higher status? Many would argue that this question was answered when Andreas Gursky sold his Prada print for over a million Euro. Others would still point to Walter Benjamin's famous essay "Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction".
What's interesting is that Banksy is by far the most popular artist in Britain for at least a decade. However within the "fine art establishment" he is at best ignored and usually slated. This sets up an interesting condition. Why is there such a dichotomy between the interests of popular and "high" culture? What does this mean for the future of contemporary art?
I'm taking a fairly affordable object dearly loved by the majority of cultural consumers but looked down on by "the art world" - one which is dropping in value. Then through the process of deconstruction, turning it into an object of lesser form but higher price. One which engages the very people who reject the original print and something that will presumably increase in value.
That raises some interesting questions about the validity of the 'institution' wouldn't you say?
"Desecration" is a word usually reserved for religious objects. You might like Banksy but to imply that his work is holy seems to be going a little far.
As for the rest of your argument, I think we depart from a very similar point of view. Is it akin to book burning? It's a question I would truly wish the work to raise.
How do we judge cultural value? Does uniqueness imply a higher status? Many would argue that this question was answered when Andreas Gursky sold his Prada print for over a million Euro. Others would still point to Walter Benjamin's famous essay "Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction".
What's interesting is that Banksy is by far the most popular artist in Britain for at least a decade. However within the "fine art establishment" he is at best ignored and usually slated. This sets up an interesting condition. Why is there such a dichotomy between the interests of popular and "high" culture? What does this mean for the future of contemporary art?
I'm taking a fairly affordable object dearly loved by the majority of cultural consumers but looked down on by "the art world" - one which is dropping in value. Then through the process of deconstruction, turning it into an object of lesser form but higher price. One which engages the very people who reject the original print and something that will presumably increase in value.
That raises some interesting questions about the validity of the 'institution' wouldn't you say?
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Banksy print for sale??, by Mike Marcus on Dec 9, 2010 20:50:19 GMT 1, Thanks all for the PM's. I have a print now and it has been turned into two objects which are now drying.
Thanks all for the PM's. I have a print now and it has been turned into two objects which are now drying.
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Banksy print for sale??, by Warm Gun on Dec 9, 2010 21:47:06 GMT 1, Got any production pictures young squire?
Got any production pictures young squire?
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Banksy print for sale??, by jonnyx on Dec 9, 2010 23:52:07 GMT 1, "Desecration" is a word usually reserved for religious objects. You might like Banksy but to imply that his work is holy seems to be going a little far. As for the rest of your argument, I think we depart from a very similar point of view. Is it akin to book burning? It's a question I would truly wish the work to raise. How do we judge cultural value? Does uniqueness imply a higher status? Many would argue that this question was answered when Andreas Gursky sold his Prada print for over a million Euro. Others would still point to Walter Benjamin's famous essay "Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction". What's interesting is that Banksy is by far the most popular artist in Britain for at least a decade. However within the "fine art establishment" he is at best ignored and usually slated. This sets up an interesting condition. Why is there such a dichotomy between the interests of popular and "high" culture? What does this mean for the future of contemporary art? I'm taking a fairly affordable object dearly loved by the majority of cultural consumers but looked down on by "the art world" - one which is dropping in value. Then through the process of deconstruction, turning it into an object of lesser form but higher price. One which engages the very people who reject the original print and something that will presumably increase in value. That raises some interesting questions about the validity of the 'institution' wouldn't you say?
weeeeeeell...that's a genuinely convincing argument. very interesting and thought-provoking.
Why is there such a dichotomy between the interests of popular and "high" culture?
"Culture is the best that has been thought and said in the world" Matthew Arnold
That raises some interesting questions about the validity of the 'institution' wouldn't you say?
"When I hear the word culture I reach for my checkbook" Barbara Kruger
"Desecration" is a word usually reserved for religious objects. You might like Banksy but to imply that his work is holy seems to be going a little far. As for the rest of your argument, I think we depart from a very similar point of view. Is it akin to book burning? It's a question I would truly wish the work to raise. How do we judge cultural value? Does uniqueness imply a higher status? Many would argue that this question was answered when Andreas Gursky sold his Prada print for over a million Euro. Others would still point to Walter Benjamin's famous essay "Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction". What's interesting is that Banksy is by far the most popular artist in Britain for at least a decade. However within the "fine art establishment" he is at best ignored and usually slated. This sets up an interesting condition. Why is there such a dichotomy between the interests of popular and "high" culture? What does this mean for the future of contemporary art? I'm taking a fairly affordable object dearly loved by the majority of cultural consumers but looked down on by "the art world" - one which is dropping in value. Then through the process of deconstruction, turning it into an object of lesser form but higher price. One which engages the very people who reject the original print and something that will presumably increase in value. That raises some interesting questions about the validity of the 'institution' wouldn't you say? weeeeeeell...that's a genuinely convincing argument. very interesting and thought-provoking. Why is there such a dichotomy between the interests of popular and "high" culture?"Culture is the best that has been thought and said in the world" Matthew Arnold That raises some interesting questions about the validity of the 'institution' wouldn't you say?"When I hear the word culture I reach for my checkbook" Barbara Kruger |
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Banksy print for sale??, by jonnyx on Dec 10, 2010 0:01:59 GMT 1, "Its definitely desecration if its done to original works."
Nah. calm down - "what man has made man has always been able to make again".
"Its definitely desecration if its done to original works."
Nah. calm down - "what man has made man has always been able to make again".
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Banksy print for sale??, by jonnyx on Dec 10, 2010 0:07:15 GMT 1, sorry for the three post mentalism. but this seemed to genuinely pique my interest there for a minute.
"I'm taking a fairly affordable object dearly loved by the majority of cultural consumers but looked down on by "the art world" - one which is dropping in value. Then through the process of deconstruction, turning it into an object of lesser form but higher price."
just like this then really:
Attachments:
sorry for the three post mentalism. but this seemed to genuinely pique my interest there for a minute."I'm taking a fairly affordable object dearly loved by the majority of cultural consumers but looked down on by "the art world" - one which is dropping in value. Then through the process of deconstruction, turning it into an object of lesser form but higher price." just like this then really: Attachments:
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Banksy print for sale??, by kayceejay on Dec 10, 2010 2:45:56 GMT 1, Interested to see the pieces you created.
Interested to see the pieces you created.
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Banksy print for sale??, by G-Man on Dec 10, 2010 12:21:08 GMT 1, me too.... any pics??
me too.... any pics??
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Banksy print for sale??, by chrisps303 on Dec 10, 2010 17:40:19 GMT 1, me three, and what banksy print did you use?
me three, and what banksy print did you use?
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Banksy print for sale??, by Mike Marcus on Dec 11, 2010 17:30:08 GMT 1, I will take a photo when I'm next in the studio.
I will take a photo when I'm next in the studio.
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Banksy print for sale??, by gingerella on Dec 11, 2010 17:45:58 GMT 1, LOve the idea... it pushes art forward... enough people on this forum moan that artists are producing repetitive prints... then others moan when you try a whole new concept... you can't win. Looking forward to seeing them.
LOve the idea... it pushes art forward... enough people on this forum moan that artists are producing repetitive prints... then others moan when you try a whole new concept... you can't win. Looking forward to seeing them.
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Banksy print for sale??, by illu on Dec 11, 2010 18:14:21 GMT 1, bring the pics I'm really curious..........AND I really like the idea!!!
bring the pics I'm really curious..........AND I really like the idea!!!
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Banksy print for sale??, by armybob on Dec 11, 2010 19:29:40 GMT 1, i love this, people get all giddy about something they know nothing about. Then when they see it and it dont match there ideas this will turn into a hate thread, for touching there beloved banksy. I remember loads of people on the dface forum giving money to a guy for new project. They cried like girls when he used there money to crash the dface site for selling out.
each to there own good luck, but i dont wanna see it.
i love this, people get all giddy about something they know nothing about. Then when they see it and it dont match there ideas this will turn into a hate thread, for touching there beloved banksy. I remember loads of people on the dface forum giving money to a guy for new project. They cried like girls when he used there money to crash the dface site for selling out.
each to there own good luck, but i dont wanna see it.
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Banksy print for sale??, by Mike Marcus on Dec 14, 2010 10:56:24 GMT 1, Armybob: are you suggesting that I am somehow fishing for money? This project was entirely funded by a commission.
Armybob: are you suggesting that I am somehow fishing for money? This project was entirely funded by a commission.
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Banksy print for sale??, by Mike Marcus on Dec 14, 2010 11:04:51 GMT 1, One is dry and the other one is currently still drying in it's mould.
One is dry and the other one is currently still drying in it's mould. |
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Banksy print for sale??, by chrisps303 on Dec 14, 2010 11:29:29 GMT 1, So which banksy print did you use?
So which banksy print did you use?
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Banksy print for sale??, by artsmybag on Dec 14, 2010 11:32:45 GMT 1, I think this thread is bull...
as if that is/was a banksy print.......your full of it in my opinion..
....attention seeker....
please prove me wrong...
I think this thread is bull...
as if that is/was a banksy print.......your full of it in my opinion..
....attention seeker....
please prove me wrong...
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Banksy print for sale??, by joeschmo on Dec 14, 2010 11:48:46 GMT 1, I think this thread is bull... as if that is/was a banksy print.......your full of it in my opinion.. ....attention seeker.... please prove me wrong...
What, being that its obviously not matching any colour of any Banksy POW edition?
I think this thread is bull... as if that is/was a banksy print.......your full of it in my opinion.. ....attention seeker.... please prove me wrong... What, being that its obviously not matching any colour of any Banksy POW edition? |
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Banksy print for sale??, by kennas on Dec 14, 2010 11:54:10 GMT 1, I've got a nice off-cut of carpet underlay that looks very similar.
I also call bull
I've got a nice off-cut of carpet underlay that looks very similar.
I also call bull
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