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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by gironawatch on Jun 27, 2014 22:08:02 GMT 1, I don't see the point to pay extra 10k for the white, in 10 year from now all will be the same price, silver gold and white will be the same and orange, purple etc.
I have see more white, gold and silver than other colors.
I don't see the point to pay extra 10k for the white, in 10 year from now all will be the same price, silver gold and white will be the same and orange, purple etc.
I have see more white, gold and silver than other colors.
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by misterx on Jun 28, 2014 2:01:49 GMT 1, First World Problems bro....
First World Problems bro....
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 2:56:17 GMT 1, I am Soo torn here. the investment move is the CYW white. i get it. but i love the Laugh now  i know the AP doesn't have a color change like others. but it is one of the first pulls and a true AP. but he CYW in white is Soo sick!!! the stencil work is really highlighted in that one. and the silver version has a rad flake in the paint. It's unreal. Before anyone disses this situation. it is very real. going direct thru a friend in los angeles and all have COA. SO can you help me this decision? its a lot of money, even on a friends and family deal. but still below price for a NON A/P ( regular signed edition ). I don't think it is right to quote the prices. and i don't want to f**k this up for me, by doing the wrong thing.... you know?
I personally think the real investment move is the Laugh Now. CYW is in some weird bubble right now, whereas everyone regards Laugh Now as "classic Banksy," whatever that means. I was also never too crazy about CYW; I think I convinced myself I liked it more recently because of the hype, but it was one of the few Banksy images that I used to tell myself I'd never try to purchase.
Edit: Monkeys.
I am Soo torn here. the investment move is the CYW white. i get it. but i love the Laugh now i know the AP doesn't have a color change like others. but it is one of the first pulls and a true AP. but he CYW in white is Soo sick!!! the stencil work is really highlighted in that one. and the silver version has a rad flake in the paint. It's unreal. Before anyone disses this situation. it is very real. going direct thru a friend in los angeles and all have COA. SO can you help me this decision? its a lot of money, even on a friends and family deal. but still below price for a NON A/P ( regular signed edition ). I don't think it is right to quote the prices. and i don't want to f**k this up for me, by doing the wrong thing.... you know? I personally think the real investment move is the Laugh Now. CYW is in some weird bubble right now, whereas everyone regards Laugh Now as "classic Banksy," whatever that means. I was also never too crazy about CYW; I think I convinced myself I liked it more recently because of the hype, but it was one of the few Banksy images that I used to tell myself I'd never try to purchase. Edit: Monkeys. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 4:32:06 GMT 1, I'd personally go with the Laugh Now.... CYW is one of my least favorite Banksy prints (never a big KH fan)
I'd personally go with the Laugh Now.... CYW is one of my least favorite Banksy prints (never a big KH fan)
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 7:11:30 GMT 1, in 10 year from now all will be the same price, silver gold and white will be the same and orange, purple etc. I have see more white, gold and silver than other colors.
in 10 year from now all will be the same price, silver gold and white will be the same and orange, purple etc. I have see more white, gold and silver than other colors. You're talking out of your arse giranowatch |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Simococo on Jun 28, 2014 7:36:31 GMT 1, Laugh Now, LIITA, Barcode, Kate OC, RR, GWB IMO are the ones......
Laugh Now, LIITA, Barcode, Kate OC, RR, GWB IMO are the ones......
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 7:54:53 GMT 1, Laugh Now, LIITA, Barcode, Kate OC, RR, GWB IMO are the ones...... 
Laugh Now, LIITA, Barcode, Kate OC, RR, GWB IMO are the ones...... All lovelies, dont forget RC, HC and FC |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Simococo on Jun 28, 2014 8:00:47 GMT 1, Love a RC! Just can't remember seeing one in decent nick
Love a RC! Just can't remember seeing one in decent nick
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by dougal on Jun 28, 2014 8:39:52 GMT 1, Laugh Now, LIITA, Barcode, Kate OC, RR, GWB IMO are the ones......
Agreed on the Radar Rat, one of my personal favourites.
Laugh Now, LIITA, Barcode, Kate OC, RR, GWB IMO are the ones...... Agreed on the Radar Rat, one of my personal favourites. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 8:56:16 GMT 1, Love a RC! Just can't remember seeing one in decent nick
Love a RC! Just can't remember seeing one in decent nick Yeah it is a big problem with it, I think to a degree that's why some of the later Banksys have went beyond some of the classics, not so many issues, people knew the likes of Nola and CYW were already worth decent money when released so they've been better looked after and the quality of the paper is better. I honestly think in the long term smaller issues will become more acceptable with earlier Banksys. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Simococo on Jun 28, 2014 10:15:35 GMT 1, I'm assuming that Nola and CYW command top wack because of their US connection and therefore appeal to a wider audience?
I'm assuming that Nola and CYW command top wack because of their US connection and therefore appeal to a wider audience?
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 11:23:08 GMT 1, I'm assuming that Nola and CYW command top wack because of their US connection and therefore appeal to a wider audience?
I'm assuming that Nola and CYW command top wack because of their US connection and therefore appeal to a wider audience? That def was a factor, I think now as his audience is literally worldwide theres appeal across the board except a few like WSM, soupcans etc which appeal moreso to the uk market. Part of the appeal of Nola is its family friendly and now we're seeing other family friendly pieces like NBG, S&S start to rise well. Probably to a degree because some of the others are out of reach to many folk as well, hence the dramatic rise in unsigned lately. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 11:44:25 GMT 1, I am Soo torn here. the investment move is the CYW white. i get it. but i love the Laugh now i know the AP doesn't have a color change like others. but it is one of the first pulls and a true AP. but he CYW in white is Soo sick!!! the stencil work is really highlighted in that one. and the silver version has a rad flake in the paint. It's unreal. Before anyone disses this situation. it is very real. going direct thru a friend in los angeles and all have COA. SO can you help me this decision? its a lot of money, even on a friends and family deal. but still below price for a NON A/P ( regular signed edition ). I don't think it is right to quote the prices. and i don't want to f**k this up for me, by doing the wrong thing.... you know? Neither. Invest in a Francis Bacon edition instead.
Plus you won't have to go through all the Pest Control dramatics of registering your name as a new owner which is just a ploy to keep prices high.
No other ltd editions are registered each time they change hands.
I am Soo torn here. the investment move is the CYW white. i get it. but i love the Laugh now i know the AP doesn't have a color change like others. but it is one of the first pulls and a true AP. but he CYW in white is Soo sick!!! the stencil work is really highlighted in that one. and the silver version has a rad flake in the paint. It's unreal. Before anyone disses this situation. it is very real. going direct thru a friend in los angeles and all have COA. SO can you help me this decision? its a lot of money, even on a friends and family deal. but still below price for a NON A/P ( regular signed edition ). I don't think it is right to quote the prices. and i don't want to f**k this up for me, by doing the wrong thing.... you know? Neither. Invest in a Francis Bacon edition instead.
Plus you won't have to go through all the Pest Control dramatics of registering your name as a new owner which is just a ploy to keep prices high.
No other ltd editions are registered each time they change hands.
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 11:46:58 GMT 1, PC is a bearer CoA - once bought, it goes with the print
An email to POW is enough to register a change in ownership - hardly dramatics
PC is a bearer CoA - once bought, it goes with the print
An email to POW is enough to register a change in ownership - hardly dramatics
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 11:57:03 GMT 1, Neither. Invest in a Francis Bacon edition instead.
Plus you won't have to go through all the Pest Control dramatics of registering your name as a new owner which is just a ploy to keep prices high.
No other ltd editions are registered each time they change hands.
As usual Ploppi, you are incorrect but we love you.
Smile Ploppi.
Neither. Invest in a Francis Bacon edition instead.
Plus you won't have to go through all the Pest Control dramatics of registering your name as a new owner which is just a ploy to keep prices high.
No other ltd editions are registered each time they change hands.
No dramatics / no ploy and yes there are other editions that are re registered with new ownership. As usual Ploppi, you are incorrect but we love you. Smile Ploppi. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 12:01:18 GMT 1, Which other editions are registered each time they are sold or change ownership?
Which other editions are registered each time they are sold or change ownership?
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Justdave on Jun 28, 2014 12:11:24 GMT 1, Beautiful. If only i won the lottery.
GLWS.
Beautiful. If only i won the lottery.
GLWS.
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 12:47:08 GMT 1, IMO the ones that will be the best investment 10-20 years from now will be:
-anything with a rat that is signed
-anything with a monkey that is signed
-gwb
-liita
-kate
barcode is beyond incredible, but not something that immediately says 'banksy' to those unfamiliar with the artist (despite the spray logo). so so awesome though. i think it's more a (rightful) favorite among banksy fans than the overall art world though, and that'll show later.
monkeys and rats and girls with balloons, oh my. pretty much.
same thing with any other artist; people want the 'classic' images, so the other rich person walking in doesn't have to ask them who the artist is. half of it is about status when it gets to that level; that's why when you buy a Lichtenstein you want that style, not something from his back catalog that you wouldn't know is a Licht at first sight. for me, i see rat/monkey/kate-marilyn/flower thrower/gwb and i think 'banksy' immediately, as do most i believe.
naturally i love barcode (would do gross things for one), etc. but i see those going down a little.
i personally think cyw is going to plummet. hirst might as well.
IMO the ones that will be the best investment 10-20 years from now will be:
-anything with a rat that is signed
-anything with a monkey that is signed
-gwb
-liita
-kate
barcode is beyond incredible, but not something that immediately says 'banksy' to those unfamiliar with the artist (despite the spray logo). so so awesome though. i think it's more a (rightful) favorite among banksy fans than the overall art world though, and that'll show later.
monkeys and rats and girls with balloons, oh my. pretty much.
same thing with any other artist; people want the 'classic' images, so the other rich person walking in doesn't have to ask them who the artist is. half of it is about status when it gets to that level; that's why when you buy a Lichtenstein you want that style, not something from his back catalog that you wouldn't know is a Licht at first sight. for me, i see rat/monkey/kate-marilyn/flower thrower/gwb and i think 'banksy' immediately, as do most i believe.
naturally i love barcode (would do gross things for one), etc. but i see those going down a little.
i personally think cyw is going to plummet. hirst might as well.
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 13:00:02 GMT 1, Also, question: is it true that most of the pre-2004 prints are not in mint condition, i.e. have creases, etc.? that's what i've largely heard (and seems to be implied a bit above), but can't tell if it's actually true or not.
Also, question: is it true that most of the pre-2004 prints are not in mint condition, i.e. have creases, etc.? that's what i've largely heard (and seems to be implied a bit above), but can't tell if it's actually true or not.
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 13:02:35 GMT 1, We're at the tail end of pretty horrific global recession and Banksy prices have risen and risen through it, a vast majority are in private collections and as the prices go up the works are going into collections of wealthier people who don't need/want to sell so many pieces wont resurface for a long while, no new works released for 4 years and unlikely there will be, more and more want them, less and less available, I cant see anything by Banksy going down until another global recession happens or the likes, just my opinion.
We're at the tail end of pretty horrific global recession and Banksy prices have risen and risen through it, a vast majority are in private collections and as the prices go up the works are going into collections of wealthier people who don't need/want to sell so many pieces wont resurface for a long while, no new works released for 4 years and unlikely there will be, more and more want them, less and less available, I cant see anything by Banksy going down until another global recession happens or the likes, just my opinion.
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 13:07:00 GMT 1, Also, question: is it true that most of the pre-2004 prints are not in mint condition, i.e. have creases, etc.? that's what i've largely heard (and seems to be implied a bit above), but can't tell if it's actually true or not. 
Also, question: is it true that most of the pre-2004 prints are not in mint condition, i.e. have creases, etc.? that's what i've largely heard (and seems to be implied a bit above), but can't tell if it's actually true or not. I wouldn't say most but def a percentage will have issues, they were cheap as chips back then and weren't treated like they would be now. Many of the issues can be fixed by a restorer though. I'd say at least a few are wrecked though |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 13:13:44 GMT 1, posted elsewyere, but art is viewed as an inflation hedge by those in the know - will be interesting to see the values run vs the end of a de facto negative interest rate world. but yes, there are not any more releases mooted
posted elsewyere, but art is viewed as an inflation hedge by those in the know - will be interesting to see the values run vs the end of a de facto negative interest rate world. but yes, there are not any more releases mooted
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 13:20:34 GMT 1, We're at the tail end of pretty horrific global recession and Banksy prices have risen and risen through it, a vast majority are in private collections and as the prices go up the works are going into collections of wealthier people who don't need/want to sell so many pieces wont resurface for a long while, no new works released for 4 years and unlikely there will be, more and more want them, less and less available, I cant see anything by Banksy going down until another global recession happens or the likes, just my opinion.
I meant more of a comparative plummet in relation to his other works; I don't see Mr. B prices going down, ever.
We're at the tail end of pretty horrific global recession and Banksy prices have risen and risen through it, a vast majority are in private collections and as the prices go up the works are going into collections of wealthier people who don't need/want to sell so many pieces wont resurface for a long while, no new works released for 4 years and unlikely there will be, more and more want them, less and less available, I cant see anything by Banksy going down until another global recession happens or the likes, just my opinion. I meant more of a comparative plummet in relation to his other works; I don't see Mr. B prices going down, ever. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 13:24:01 GMT 1, Also, question: is it true that most of the pre-2004 prints are not in mint condition, i.e. have creases, etc.? that's what i've largely heard (and seems to be implied a bit above), but can't tell if it's actually true or not. I wouldn't say most but def a percentage will have issues, they were cheap as chips back then and weren't treated like they would be now. Many of the issues can be fixed by a restorer though. I'd say at least a few are wrecked though
Thanks for the input. I've heard horror stories (I think there was a thread on here about damaged Banksy prints from pre-2007, with people sharing tales of blue tacking and stapling to walls)
Also, question: is it true that most of the pre-2004 prints are not in mint condition, i.e. have creases, etc.? that's what i've largely heard (and seems to be implied a bit above), but can't tell if it's actually true or not. I wouldn't say most but def a percentage will have issues, they were cheap as chips back then and weren't treated like they would be now. Many of the issues can be fixed by a restorer though. I'd say at least a few are wrecked though Thanks for the input. I've heard horror stories (I think there was a thread on here about damaged Banksy prints from pre-2007, with people sharing tales of blue tacking and stapling to walls) |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by davedandconfused on Jun 28, 2014 13:30:56 GMT 1, Also, question: is it true that most of the pre-2004 prints are not in mint condition, i.e. have creases, etc.? that's what i've largely heard (and seems to be implied a bit above), but can't tell if it's actually true or not.
I'd hesitate to say "most" but there's plenty of tales around about rats pinned up with drawing pins or put up with sellotape.
On the other hand I've seen some mint stuff from back then that was bought by those with a bit of an idea that this all might take off, doubt anyone saw all this coming though.
Also, question: is it true that most of the pre-2004 prints are not in mint condition, i.e. have creases, etc.? that's what i've largely heard (and seems to be implied a bit above), but can't tell if it's actually true or not. I'd hesitate to say "most" but there's plenty of tales around about rats pinned up with drawing pins or put up with sellotape. On the other hand I've seen some mint stuff from back then that was bought by those with a bit of an idea that this all might take off, doubt anyone saw all this coming though. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 13:38:09 GMT 1, I wouldn't say most but def a percentage will have issues, they were cheap as chips back then and weren't treated like they would be now. Many of the issues can be fixed by a restorer though. I'd say at least a few are wrecked though Thanks for the input. I've heard horror stories (I think there was a thread on here about damaged Banksy prints from pre-2007, with people sharing tales of blue tacking and stapling to walls)
I wouldn't say most but def a percentage will have issues, they were cheap as chips back then and weren't treated like they would be now. Many of the issues can be fixed by a restorer though. I'd say at least a few are wrecked though Thanks for the input. I've heard horror stories (I think there was a thread on here about damaged Banksy prints from pre-2007, with people sharing tales of blue tacking and stapling to walls) Yeah theres bound to be some bad memories, a chap I sold to told me he had a Barcode in a clip frame and his wife bought another print and wanted it put up so he took the BC out and laid it on the sofa, his wife let the dog in the back door and it run through to the living room and jumped up on the sofa, paw tore right through it, cost him £100 or so but it went straight into the bin. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 14:03:31 GMT 1, Yeah theres bound to be some bad memories, a chap I sold to told me he had a Barcode in a clip frame and his wife bought another print and wanted it put up so he took the BC out and laid it on the sofa, his wife let the dog in the back door and it run through to the living room and jumped up on the sofa, paw tore right through it, cost him £100 or so but it went straight into the bin.
Hard to readdddd 
They should have a site to keep track of how many in a given edition have been completely destroyed/lost. Would be interesting to know.
Yeah theres bound to be some bad memories, a chap I sold to told me he had a Barcode in a clip frame and his wife bought another print and wanted it put up so he took the BC out and laid it on the sofa, his wife let the dog in the back door and it run through to the living room and jumped up on the sofa, paw tore right through it, cost him £100 or so but it went straight into the bin. Hard to readdddd They should have a site to keep track of how many in a given edition have been completely destroyed/lost. Would be interesting to know. |
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 14:05:17 GMT 1, used anf enjoyed in a clip frame means more than the contemporary sterile fetishising of value at dinner parties blates
used anf enjoyed in a clip frame means more than the contemporary sterile fetishising of value at dinner parties blates
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 14:10:59 GMT 1, HERE'S THE THREAD >> urbanartassociation.com/thread/118332/destroyed-ruined-banksy-print-thread
If you have a story or know of a certain Banksy print that was lost/destroyed/shredded/obliterated/sent into another dimension/eaten, then share your story and maybe we can figure out how many prints have already met their end!
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Banksy • Choose Your Weapon Print, by Ruggs on Jun 28, 2014 15:09:53 GMT 1, Great sales thread! And congrats on getting the Lemon Yellow Graham. In my opinion its the best colourway, I should know I had one.
Great sales thread! And congrats on getting the Lemon Yellow Graham. In my opinion its the best colourway, I should know I had one.
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i know the AP doesn't have a color change like others. but it is one of the first pulls and a true AP. but he CYW in white is Soo sick!!! the stencil work is really highlighted in that one. and the silver version has a rad flake in the paint. It's unreal.
