Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by silvermyn on Oct 25, 2017 11:18:30 GMT 1,

Oct 24, 2017 21:08:43 GMT 1 craigf said:

Oct 23, 2017 16:23:10 GMT 1 cheesy said:

hi

ive been on the hunt for signed banksy pieces, adn have come across the above by a dealer. Hes trying to tell me signatures are not as relevant with either originals or handfinished as the artist actually painted the work. He says it still does carry a premium, but not to the same extent that a signature would.

again, im an amateur to this, and was hoping for any direction on the matter.

thanks for your time.

When it comes to originals, particularly the editions (let's not get into the debate whether an original has to be a 1 of 1) most of the ones by Banksy are not signed.  There are exceptions of course which are signed and often on the originals the Banksy TAG on the side is claimed to be a signature

I would also draw a distinction between an original (which the artist has done by hand, albeit using a stencil) and a screen print that was created by a print house but later varied by the artist.

The original, as certified by PC, shows that the artist prepared the entirety of the piece.  It doesn't need a signature to show that the artist executed the work.  Nice but not important with PC certified originals.  With a screen print, the print is not generally screened by Banksy himself and the only thing the artist can do to make it unique is a signature and/or some handfinishing.

There are signed prints and then there are handfinished signed prints. For example, there are some white edition CYWs and there are also some white edition CYWs that have red dots added to them.  The versions with the red dots are viewed as more desirable as the artist made each print even more unique.  What is interesting is that there are some prints that the artist has made unique but has not signed. 

Some would argue that the prints can be ranked in the following order 1. signed handfinished; 2 signed; 3 unsigned handfinished; and 4 unsigned.  There could be a lot of debate around whether a signed print is worth more that an unsigned handfinished print but I think generally collectors do prefer the signed prints.

Oct 24, 2017 21:08:43 GMT 1 craigf said:

Oct 23, 2017 16:23:10 GMT 1 cheesy said:

hi

ive been on the hunt for signed banksy pieces, adn have come across the above by a dealer. Hes trying to tell me signatures are not as relevant with either originals or handfinished as the artist actually painted the work. He says it still does carry a premium, but not to the same extent that a signature would.

again, im an amateur to this, and was hoping for any direction on the matter.

thanks for your time.

When it comes to originals, particularly the editions (let's not get into the debate whether an original has to be a 1 of 1) most of the ones by Banksy are not signed.  There are exceptions of course which are signed and often on the originals the Banksy TAG on the side is claimed to be a signature

I would also draw a distinction between an original (which the artist has done by hand, albeit using a stencil) and a screen print that was created by a print house but later varied by the artist.

The original, as certified by PC, shows that the artist prepared the entirety of the piece.  It doesn't need a signature to show that the artist executed the work.  Nice but not important with PC certified originals.  With a screen print, the print is not generally screened by Banksy himself and the only thing the artist can do to make it unique is a signature and/or some handfinishing.

There are signed prints and then there are handfinished signed prints. For example, there are some white edition CYWs and there are also some white edition CYWs that have red dots added to them.  The versions with the red dots are viewed as more desirable as the artist made each print even more unique.  What is interesting is that there are some prints that the artist has made unique but has not signed. 

Some would argue that the prints can be ranked in the following order 1. signed handfinished; 2 signed; 3 unsigned handfinished; and 4 unsigned.  There could be a lot of debate around whether a signed print is worth more that an unsigned handfinished print but I think generally collectors do prefer the signed prints.