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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by HowAboutNo on Sept 19, 2006 9:47:24 GMT 1, Are these two real? Signature in pen on the Virgin Mary, now POW I can see
Am no expert - by any means, but was just looking at the FAQ section on POW - and it says Banksy signs "most of his in pen"??
Cant be right though as the majority I have seen are pencil??
I'll shut up now.
;D
Are these two real? Signature in pen on the Virgin Mary, now POW I can see Am no expert - by any means, but was just looking at the FAQ section on POW - and it says Banksy signs "most of his in pen"?? Cant be right though as the majority I have seen are pencil?? I'll shut up now. ;D |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by lesroy on Sept 19, 2006 21:35:26 GMT 1, I agree mate, I too read that he signs in pen by nearly all the ones I have seen have been in pencil... sig looks good though!
I agree mate, I too read that he signs in pen by nearly all the ones I have seen have been in pencil... sig looks good though!
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by ratpack on Sept 20, 2006 10:37:17 GMT 1, Our Rude Copper is signed in Pen - numbered 55 in pencil.
Hope that helps
Our Rude Copper is signed in Pen - numbered 55 in pencil.
Hope that helps
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by metadaptive on Jan 14, 2007 19:00:04 GMT 1, Hello,
I've just put my Rude Copper (174/250) up on the bay at cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320071832790
thanks for looking and to those who provided help and advice when I first thought of selling back in november,
meta
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by adrscib on Jan 14, 2007 19:12:20 GMT 1, i don t know why you should sell it now!!! i shouldnt tell you...  but in 7-february there are 7 banksy auction @ sothebys olympia ;D and i believe if auction is successful prices are to increase from current levels  good luck. so whoever is buying now will make a good profit in just 1 month. just my opinion, i might be wrong.
i don t know why you should sell it now!!! i shouldnt tell you... but in 7-february there are 7 banksy auction @ sothebys olympia ;D and i believe if auction is successful prices are to increase from current levels good luck. so whoever is buying now will make a good profit in just 1 month. just my opinion, i might be wrong. |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by manchestermike on Jan 14, 2007 19:12:27 GMT 1, One of the prints I've always wanted, can't go for this auction though 
Good luck with your sale
One of the prints I've always wanted, can't go for this auction though Good luck with your sale |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by metadaptive on Jan 14, 2007 19:48:33 GMT 1, thanks for the tip adrscib!
might have to pull it though I'd prefer not to - interest has been pretty crazy already in like half an hour.
in the end its a print i bought for £40 quid as a skint student so any advance on that is a bonus really...
...can't help thinking how high they *might* go tho...
thanks for the tip adrscib!
might have to pull it though I'd prefer not to - interest has been pretty crazy already in like half an hour.
in the end its a print i bought for £40 quid as a skint student so any advance on that is a bonus really...
...can't help thinking how high they *might* go tho...
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by adrscib on Jan 14, 2007 20:00:47 GMT 1, My bet is that you should be able to get north of 2k... because similar prints that were going at 1.8k in november are now going for 2.5-2.75k... e.g. the grin reaper...
and also since that it is very rare that a rude copper comes on ebay i wouldnt be surprised that it hits 3k.
On the business side... i hope you take this advice...
Well if i were you, check with some art dealers who might own the print... like www.guyhepner.com/content/content.php?id=622 see what is their asking price and make sure you get at least 80% of their asking price.
If you dont get that price then u should stop the auction before - or make a reserve...
i know it might be very tempting to sell (since it costs you nothing) but you will regret it in 1 years time... if prices keep increasing!!!! so make sure you get the best price you can.
Otherwise you will be selling at a discount, and the buyer will make a better deal than you.
My bet is that you should be able to get north of 2k... because similar prints that were going at 1.8k in november are now going for 2.5-2.75k... e.g. the grin reaper... and also since that it is very rare that a rude copper comes on ebay i wouldnt be surprised that it hits 3k. On the business side... i hope you take this advice... Well if i were you, check with some art dealers who might own the print... like www.guyhepner.com/content/content.php?id=622 see what is their asking price and make sure you get at least 80% of their asking price. If you dont get that price then u should stop the auction before - or make a reserve... i know it might be very tempting to sell (since it costs you nothing) but you will regret it in 1 years time... if prices keep increasing!!!! so make sure you get the best price you can. Otherwise you will be selling at a discount, and the buyer will make a better deal than you. |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by metadaptive on Jan 14, 2007 20:12:18 GMT 1, guy hepner is asking 6k for the one he has! and that was in november.
thanks very much for your advice - i appreciate it muchly - as and when I do sell I will buy you a beer sometime...
i really am in two minds over it all - my financial situation is less than good at the mo... but finally improving on its own...
mind me asking your opinion on a couple of other things 
do you think it's worth holding off and getting the print authenticated the next time banksys people do a round of auth'ing (as my in-the-know mate tells me they do every so often) apparently it doesn't cost that much..?
could it be worth selling to a dealer? if so gow does one approach them.?
thanks again for your time...
meta
guy hepner is asking 6k for the one he has! and that was in november. thanks very much for your advice - i appreciate it muchly - as and when I do sell I will buy you a beer sometime... i really am in two minds over it all - my financial situation is less than good at the mo... but finally improving on its own... mind me asking your opinion on a couple of other things do you think it's worth holding off and getting the print authenticated the next time banksys people do a round of auth'ing (as my in-the-know mate tells me they do every so often) apparently it doesn't cost that much..? could it be worth selling to a dealer? if so gow does one approach them.? thanks again for your time... meta |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Zippy on Jan 14, 2007 21:58:14 GMT 1, hi meta,some of the advice given above is good - some not so good.
if you need to sell it for financial gain and to clear some debts - do it. ignore the 'what ifs' merchants! there is no point wondering what will happen in the future. whatever price you get then becomes current market value.
the dealers selling for lots more will always take an offer. also this is their business, they mark it up high but never sell at that price.
you should get 2k for it imo. i would love to have it but dont have any money. if you would swap it them pm me!!
hi meta,some of the advice given above is good - some not so good.
if you need to sell it for financial gain and to clear some debts - do it. ignore the 'what ifs' merchants! there is no point wondering what will happen in the future. whatever price you get then becomes current market value.
the dealers selling for lots more will always take an offer. also this is their business, they mark it up high but never sell at that price.
you should get 2k for it imo. i would love to have it but dont have any money. if you would swap it them pm me!!
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by foundation on Jan 14, 2007 22:48:45 GMT 1, hi meta,some of the advice given above is good - some not so good. if you need to sell it for financial gain and to clear some debts - do it. ignore the 'what ifs' merchants! there is no point wondering what will happen in the future. whatever price you get then becomes current market value. the dealers selling for lots more will always take an offer. also this is their business, they mark it up high but never sell at that price. you should get 2k for it imo. i would love to have it but dont have any money. if you would swap it them pm me!!
Spot on Zippy,
hi meta,some of the advice given above is good - some not so good. if you need to sell it for financial gain and to clear some debts - do it. ignore the 'what ifs' merchants! there is no point wondering what will happen in the future. whatever price you get then becomes current market value. the dealers selling for lots more will always take an offer. also this is their business, they mark it up high but never sell at that price. you should get 2k for it imo. i would love to have it but dont have any money. if you would swap it them pm me!! Spot on Zippy, |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by adrscib on Jan 14, 2007 23:20:36 GMT 1, hi meta i am not sure if i can help you on your further questions as i am a novice and dont want to give you incorrect answers... what i am sure tho is that the dealer always has a higher price.... but i mean you can bargain... from my experience... i bought a grin reaper at half the price that was being asked ... and it was for the same edition number! but luckily i manged to find the owner of the print rather than guy hepner...so it is true that their prices are extremely inflated.... but as time goes on this gap is being reduced... grin repers were going for 1.7k whilst guy hepner was selling for 3.4k, now they are going for 2.7k on ebay and guy heper asks for 3.8k...
my other reasoning is... if dealers are marking up their prices and eventually sell... maybe if not 6k they can afford to sell at 5k... but why should you settle for 2k??? unless you are desperately in need of cash i would not sell for less than 3-4k... after all the art galleries are experts and know the feel of the market... it is only a question of finding the right buyer at the right price.. what i also noticed on ebay is that there are also print businesses who are buying .. which to my knowledge means they are speculating.... and expecting prices to go up...
finally i will stop commenting on the financial aspects as i am sure foundation won't like that i discuss business on the forum. Sorry! Good luck in your sale.
Adrian
hi meta i am not sure if i can help you on your further questions as i am a novice and dont want to give you incorrect answers... what i am sure tho is that the dealer always has a higher price.... but i mean you can bargain... from my experience... i bought a grin reaper at half the price that was being asked ... and it was for the same edition number! but luckily i manged to find the owner of the print rather than guy hepner...so it is true that their prices are extremely inflated.... but as time goes on this gap is being reduced... grin repers were going for 1.7k whilst guy hepner was selling for 3.4k, now they are going for 2.7k on ebay and guy heper asks for 3.8k...
my other reasoning is... if dealers are marking up their prices and eventually sell... maybe if not 6k they can afford to sell at 5k... but why should you settle for 2k??? unless you are desperately in need of cash i would not sell for less than 3-4k... after all the art galleries are experts and know the feel of the market... it is only a question of finding the right buyer at the right price.. what i also noticed on ebay is that there are also print businesses who are buying .. which to my knowledge means they are speculating.... and expecting prices to go up...
finally i will stop commenting on the financial aspects as i am sure foundation won't like that i discuss business on the forum. Sorry! Good luck in your sale.
Adrian
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by metadaptive on Jan 14, 2007 23:24:23 GMT 1, thanks for all you input guys - its much appreciated. meta
thanks for all you input guys - its much appreciated. meta
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by foundation on Jan 15, 2007 9:18:55 GMT 1, hi meta i am not sure if i can help you on your further questions as i am a novice and dont want to give you incorrect answers... what i am sure tho is that the dealer always has a higher price.... but i mean you can bargain... from my experience... i bought a grin reaper at half the price that was being asked ... and it was for the same edition number! but luckily i manged to find the owner of the print rather than guy hepner...so it is true that their prices are extremely inflated.... but as time goes on this gap is being reduced... grin repers were going for 1.7k whilst guy hepner was selling for 3.4k, now they are going for 2.7k on ebay and guy heper asks for 3.8k... my other reasoning is... if dealers are marking up their prices and eventually sell... maybe if not 6k they can afford to sell at 5k... but why should you settle for 2k??? unless you are desperately in need of cash i would not sell for less than 3-4k... after all the art galleries are experts and know the feel of the market... it is only a question of finding the right buyer at the right price.. what i also noticed on ebay is that there are also print businesses who are buying .. which to my knowledge means they are speculating.... and expecting prices to go up... finally i will stop commenting on the financial aspects as i am sure foundation won't like that i discuss business on the forum. Sorry! Good luck in your sale. Adrian
Say what you like adrian, I myself have no problems discussing finacial stuff, and was reprimanded quite vocally several times in the past for doing such things, being reminded that this forum was about the art of banksy, things have changed and I'm not arsed as its another interesting part of the banksy phenomenon. It is quite interesting the ammount of quality people both the ebay forum and here have lost mainly due to newer interested parties talking rubbish, giving bad advice and generally clogging discussions with pointless tripe, leaving everyone else to wade through ankle deep poo to find anything interesting. Anyone heard from GM recently? voice of authority? Thugs? Moffla?
Ahh goodbye respect points 
hi meta i am not sure if i can help you on your further questions as i am a novice and dont want to give you incorrect answers... what i am sure tho is that the dealer always has a higher price.... but i mean you can bargain... from my experience... i bought a grin reaper at half the price that was being asked ... and it was for the same edition number! but luckily i manged to find the owner of the print rather than guy hepner...so it is true that their prices are extremely inflated.... but as time goes on this gap is being reduced... grin repers were going for 1.7k whilst guy hepner was selling for 3.4k, now they are going for 2.7k on ebay and guy heper asks for 3.8k... my other reasoning is... if dealers are marking up their prices and eventually sell... maybe if not 6k they can afford to sell at 5k... but why should you settle for 2k??? unless you are desperately in need of cash i would not sell for less than 3-4k... after all the art galleries are experts and know the feel of the market... it is only a question of finding the right buyer at the right price.. what i also noticed on ebay is that there are also print businesses who are buying .. which to my knowledge means they are speculating.... and expecting prices to go up... finally i will stop commenting on the financial aspects as i am sure foundation won't like that i discuss business on the forum. Sorry! Good luck in your sale. Adrian Say what you like adrian, I myself have no problems discussing finacial stuff, and was reprimanded quite vocally several times in the past for doing such things, being reminded that this forum was about the art of banksy, things have changed and I'm not arsed as its another interesting part of the banksy phenomenon. It is quite interesting the ammount of quality people both the ebay forum and here have lost mainly due to newer interested parties talking rubbish, giving bad advice and generally clogging discussions with pointless tripe, leaving everyone else to wade through ankle deep poo to find anything interesting. Anyone heard from GM recently? voice of authority? Thugs? Moffla? Ahh goodbye respect points |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by BME on Jan 15, 2007 10:36:20 GMT 1, Hi meta,
If you have debts I think this is a good time to sell. Prices are high, people are confident- and there's a limit to the amount that anyone can ask for an unsigned print! I suspect that the difference in value between signed and unsigned prints will continue to grow.
Because of the scarcity of the image (and its desirability) I'd argue that rude copper will always be one of the most valuable unsigned prints, along with Bomb Middle England, Love is in the Air, Girl With Balloon and the Soup Cans (heavily undervalued IMO). I think that anything over £2200 would be a good result- and a damn fine return on your £40!
good luck
Hi meta, If you have debts I think this is a good time to sell. Prices are high, people are confident- and there's a limit to the amount that anyone can ask for an unsigned print! I suspect that the difference in value between signed and unsigned prints will continue to grow. Because of the scarcity of the image (and its desirability) I'd argue that rude copper will always be one of the most valuable unsigned prints, along with Bomb Middle England, Love is in the Air, Girl With Balloon and the Soup Cans (heavily undervalued IMO). I think that anything over £2200 would be a good result- and a damn fine return on your £40! good luck |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by paintingbox on Aug 13, 2006 20:55:20 GMT 1, Hi..
I have to reluctantly sell my Rude Policeman, and it is for sale on ebay.. I bought it in 2002-2003 and it was professionally framed and in excellent condition. It is stamped in red and numbered 180/250
Very Reluctant sale !!
View ebay item number 150022117575
email me for any close up pictures etc
cheers
Joe
Hi..
I have to reluctantly sell my Rude Policeman, and it is for sale on ebay.. I bought it in 2002-2003 and it was professionally framed and in excellent condition. It is stamped in red and numbered 180/250
Very Reluctant sale !!
View ebay item number 150022117575
email me for any close up pictures etc
cheers
Joe
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by gtorphins on Aug 31, 2007 14:20:58 GMT 1,
With my GTR taking too long to sell and nursery fees for my daughter looming I'm going to have to get rid of my Rude Copper print. Gulp!
Just wondering how much an unsigned numbered print in A1 condition
is likely to fetch.......
Thanks in advance
George
With my GTR taking too long to sell and nursery fees for my daughter looming I'm going to have to get rid of my Rude Copper print. Gulp!
Just wondering how much an unsigned numbered print in A1 condition
is likely to fetch.......
Thanks in advance
George
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by manchestermike on Aug 31, 2007 14:28:02 GMT 1, A lot
George, jcshroom on WC has been looking for one for ages!
Please PM him
A lot George, jcshroom on WC has been looking for one for ages! Please PM him |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by RBK on Aug 31, 2007 14:53:44 GMT 1, I have great dealings with jcshroom as an aside george
I have great dealings with jcshroom as an aside george
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by numusic on Aug 31, 2007 15:02:27 GMT 1, last ones went for around 2k, but that was this time last year. You could probably at least double that these days. But it's been a while since one was up for sale. I'd ebay it and see what market price comes in. It should generate a lot of interest and a good price. Many people trying to complete collections so a lot of people would up their normal maximum on this.
last ones went for around 2k, but that was this time last year. You could probably at least double that these days. But it's been a while since one was up for sale. I'd ebay it and see what market price comes in. It should generate a lot of interest and a good price. Many people trying to complete collections so a lot of people would up their normal maximum on this.
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by gtorphins on Aug 31, 2007 15:03:53 GMT 1, Thanks for the heads up guys. ' much appreciated.
Anyone want to PM some ballpark "from **** to...." figures to me please?
My car's on eBay 'til Sunday as an act of desperation so maybe I might not have to commit this piece of art collecting hara-kiri.
**Edit: just posted before seeing Nuart's reply. Cheers!**
Thanks for the heads up guys. ' much appreciated.
Anyone want to PM some ballpark "from **** to...." figures to me please?
My car's on eBay 'til Sunday as an act of desperation so maybe I might not have to commit this piece of art collecting hara-kiri.
**Edit: just posted before seeing Nuart's reply. Cheers!**
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by manchestermike on Aug 31, 2007 15:16:09 GMT 1, Ohhh - car linky please (I'm nosy)
Ohhh - car linky please (I'm nosy)
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by manchestermike on Aug 31, 2007 15:33:40 GMT 1, Nice matey... always been a big fan of them. I love my cars fast too... hope it doesn't have to go 
Nice matey... always been a big fan of them. I love my cars fast too... hope it doesn't have to go |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by gtorphins on Aug 31, 2007 15:38:25 GMT 1, Nice matey... always been a big fan of them. I love my cars fast too... hope it doesn't have to go
Cheers Mike.
It's going hopefully sooner rather than later!
You could buy it two or three time over with your collection at home!
Nice matey... always been a big fan of them. I love my cars fast too... hope it doesn't have to go Cheers Mike. It's going hopefully sooner rather than later! You could buy it two or three time over with your collection at home! |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by gtorphins on Aug 31, 2007 15:40:20 GMT 1, A lot George, jcshroom on WC has been looking for one for ages! Please PM him
Registered with WC
Just waiting to be approved
A lot George, jcshroom on WC has been looking for one for ages! Please PM him Registered with WC Just waiting to be approved |
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by solar77 on Aug 31, 2007 18:53:08 GMT 1, I'd definitely sell a Banksy or 3 before that car. Of course I'm in the US, where GTRs are near impossible to find.
I'd definitely sell a Banksy or 3 before that car. Of course I'm in the US, where GTRs are near impossible to find.
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by dgb133 on Aug 31, 2007 19:37:11 GMT 1, Last unsigned Rude Copper went for 4k GBP on the bay about 2-3 months ago. It was a buy it now auction and it was up for several days before someone took the bait.
I guess that's 'ok' for the 'copper' but personally I don't see any unsigned prints escalating in value for much more than that. At least not for awhile. Prices seemed to have hit a ceiling in my opinion. Of course you guys can prove me wrong.
Last unsigned Rude Copper went for 4k GBP on the bay about 2-3 months ago. It was a buy it now auction and it was up for several days before someone took the bait.
I guess that's 'ok' for the 'copper' but personally I don't see any unsigned prints escalating in value for much more than that. At least not for awhile. Prices seemed to have hit a ceiling in my opinion. Of course you guys can prove me wrong.
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by foreman on Aug 31, 2007 19:57:28 GMT 1, id like to see it go on the bay... find out the true market price... all you need is 2 people who realllly want it and the price can shoot through the roof
id like to see it go on the bay... find out the true market price... all you need is 2 people who realllly want it and the price can shoot through the roof
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but in 7-february there are 7 banksy auction @ sothebys olympia ;D and i believe if auction is successful prices are to increase from current levels 
good luck. so whoever is buying now will make a good profit in just 1 month. just my opinion, i might be wrong.
