Viking Surfer
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Viking Surfer on Jan 22, 2017 21:38:44 GMT 1, barsukauk and thugs , I'm not talking about the literal dimensions of the Rude Copper. I'm talking about the size listed on the COA.
PC said they only ever list the generic 60 x 40 on the COA (even though the original POW site had it listed as 57 x 40).
I appreciate all are a little different due to the mismatch of paper used, I'm just interested as to what's written on your actual COA.
Thanks 😊
barsukauk and thugs , I'm not talking about the literal dimensions of the Rude Copper. I'm talking about the size listed on the COA. PC said they only ever list the generic 60 x 40 on the COA (even though the original POW site had it listed as 57 x 40). I appreciate all are a little different due to the mismatch of paper used, I'm just interested as to what's written on your actual COA. Thanks 😊
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Viking Surfer
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Viking Surfer on Jan 22, 2017 21:46:56 GMT 1, Does anybody here have a Rude Copper that has dimensions listed as anything other than 60 x 40cm on their Pest Control COA? Thanks! i don't have a coa for mine but it measures 58cm x 42cm if that's of any help?
Had a few PMs and all said the same, with their cert having a generic 60 x 40 and their RC being a different size.
I was just making sure PC weren't being lazy when they issued the COA for mine, but it appears it was the same across the board, especially for an edition like this when all were a different size.
I also spoke to Laz about borders around the RC and he said many were done right up to the edge, leaving no border and a few had borders all around; there was no system to how they were sprayed on to the paper.
Super stoked with my RC
Does anybody here have a Rude Copper that has dimensions listed as anything other than 60 x 40cm on their Pest Control COA? Thanks! i don't have a coa for mine but it measures 58cm x 42cm if that's of any help? Had a few PMs and all said the same, with their cert having a generic 60 x 40 and their RC being a different size. I was just making sure PC weren't being lazy when they issued the COA for mine, but it appears it was the same across the board, especially for an edition like this when all were a different size. I also spoke to Laz about borders around the RC and he said many were done right up to the edge, leaving no border and a few had borders all around; there was no system to how they were sprayed on to the paper. Super stoked with my RC
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hnkpnk
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by hnkpnk on Jan 22, 2017 22:50:43 GMT 1, ... there was no system to how they were sprayed on to the paper. Sprayed?
... there was no system to how they were sprayed on to the paper. Sprayed?
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Viking Surfer
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Viking Surfer on Jan 22, 2017 23:38:02 GMT 1, ... there was no system to how they were sprayed on to the paper. Sprayed?
Yeah I knew someone was going to call me out on that, I'm just on my phone and couldn't be bothered to edit.
Screen print is obviously what I meant.
... there was no system to how they were sprayed on to the paper. Sprayed? Yeah I knew someone was going to call me out on that, I'm just on my phone and couldn't be bothered to edit. Screen print is obviously what I meant.
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raphyki55
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by raphyki55 on Jul 21, 2017 21:37:30 GMT 1, Good luck with the sale
Good luck with the sale
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dbm
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by dbm on Jul 22, 2017 0:30:01 GMT 1, GLWTS ... A classic.....
GLWTS ... A classic.....
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Black Apple Art
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Black Apple Art on Jul 22, 2017 1:01:29 GMT 1, My favorite piece for many reasons. GLWTS
My favorite piece for many reasons. GLWTS
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Larry David
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Larry David on Jul 22, 2017 6:50:26 GMT 1, My favourite, always has been. Classic Banksy. Not many in good condition. GLWTS.
My favourite, always has been. Classic Banksy. Not many in good condition. GLWTS.
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brookvale
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by brookvale on Jul 22, 2017 7:49:36 GMT 1, banksy's first print. A real beauty. Hope you get what your looking for. this print should be worth more. His best in years to come
banksy's first print. A real beauty. Hope you get what your looking for. this print should be worth more. His best in years to come
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mrizzle
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by mrizzle on Jul 22, 2017 12:12:42 GMT 1, A true Banksy classic. GLWTS.
A true Banksy classic. GLWTS.
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cheesy
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by cheesy on Oct 23, 2017 16:23:10 GMT 1, hi
ive been on the hunt for signed banksy pieces, adn have come across the above by a dealer. Hes trying to tell me signatures are not as relevant with either originals or handfinished as the artist actually painted the work. He says it still does carry a premium, but not to the same extent that a signature would.
again, im an amateur to this, and was hoping for any direction on the matter.
thanks for your time.
hi
ive been on the hunt for signed banksy pieces, adn have come across the above by a dealer. Hes trying to tell me signatures are not as relevant with either originals or handfinished as the artist actually painted the work. He says it still does carry a premium, but not to the same extent that a signature would.
again, im an amateur to this, and was hoping for any direction on the matter.
thanks for your time.
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Wrinkled Brain on Oct 23, 2017 17:13:39 GMT 1, Your image isn't displaying.
Your image isn't displaying.
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Poster Bob
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Poster Bob on Oct 23, 2017 17:25:00 GMT 1, Thanks for all of the info. Makes this such an easy decision.
Thanks for all of the info. Makes this such an easy decision.
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silvermyn
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by silvermyn on Oct 23, 2017 17:47:02 GMT 1, Hi cheesy,
I was considering an RC with red spraypaint background but no signature a few years ago. Perhaps it's the same one you're looking at?
Unsigned but with unique handsprayed finish (assuming it states as much on the COA) is an interesting proposition. I was told that such works were not considered good enough by the artist to be signed but that might be BS. I think Banksy did some unsigned RR's and they looked fine to the untrained eye but then there may be something in it.
Personally, signed is where it's at for me. I feel confident that the artist was happy with the final work and it adds a great deal to prints having that signature at the bottom.
If you like it and can get a good price, buy it and enjoy. As long as it has a COA you're on safe ground. They are rare and there will always be a buyer should you wish to move on.
Silver.
Hi cheesy,
I was considering an RC with red spraypaint background but no signature a few years ago. Perhaps it's the same one you're looking at?
Unsigned but with unique handsprayed finish (assuming it states as much on the COA) is an interesting proposition. I was told that such works were not considered good enough by the artist to be signed but that might be BS. I think Banksy did some unsigned RR's and they looked fine to the untrained eye but then there may be something in it.
Personally, signed is where it's at for me. I feel confident that the artist was happy with the final work and it adds a great deal to prints having that signature at the bottom.
If you like it and can get a good price, buy it and enjoy. As long as it has a COA you're on safe ground. They are rare and there will always be a buyer should you wish to move on.
Silver.
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Winks
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Winks on Oct 23, 2017 17:59:06 GMT 1, It’s rubbish mate, if it’s this one, I saw it in a charity shop and it was an easy pass
It’s rubbish mate, if it’s this one, I saw it in a charity shop and it was an easy pass
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.dappy
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by .dappy on Oct 23, 2017 17:59:56 GMT 1, ... if it is not a PC COA you are not on safe ground ...
... if it is not a PC COA you are not on safe ground ...
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Imoy-San
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Imoy-San on Oct 23, 2017 19:49:36 GMT 1, I too almost got one, but it was picked up by another member on this forum. Great piece, and I wasn't particularly bothered about the signature.
I too almost got one, but it was picked up by another member on this forum. Great piece, and I wasn't particularly bothered about the signature.
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Pattycakes
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Pattycakes on Oct 23, 2017 20:34:18 GMT 1, There are more than 6, I believe it's more like 30 in varying colours and images. Mixture of Peace symbol, Anarchy symbol, F*** the Police etc
There are more than 6, I believe it's more like 30 in varying colours and images. Mixture of Peace symbol, Anarchy symbol, F*** the Police etc
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sugar72
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by sugar72 on Oct 23, 2017 20:38:58 GMT 1, Nice.
I've seen those banksy symbols on another's artist's work!!
Nice.
I've seen those banksy symbols on another's artist's work!!
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gd79
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by gd79 on Oct 23, 2017 20:51:16 GMT 1, I don't suppose it's a large silkscreen with a big old rooster on it? Being hawked by some Canadian dude?
I don't suppose it's a large silkscreen with a big old rooster on it? Being hawked by some Canadian dude?
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sugar72
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by sugar72 on Oct 23, 2017 20:55:21 GMT 1, Nope. A genuine original I was privileged to see earlier in the year
Nope. A genuine original I was privileged to see earlier in the year
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Viking Surfer
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Viking Surfer on Oct 23, 2017 22:15:24 GMT 1, There were 6 Handfinished Rude Coppers. I believe Banksy wrote on them "f**kthe police" Rat - old member had some blinding photos This being one of them
That middle one would be a holy grail for me.
There were 6 Handfinished Rude Coppers. I believe Banksy wrote on them "f**kthe police" Rat - old member had some blinding photos This being one of them That middle one would be a holy grail for me.
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sugarcane
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by sugarcane on Oct 24, 2017 5:02:41 GMT 1, Sorry for the hijack. After Cheesy is sorted, if anyone has info on availability of a rude copper piece like those above with a COA, or signed/unsigned rude Coppers with a COA, please PM me.
thanks
Sorry for the hijack. After Cheesy is sorted, if anyone has info on availability of a rude copper piece like those above with a COA, or signed/unsigned rude Coppers with a COA, please PM me.
thanks
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cheesy
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by cheesy on Oct 24, 2017 6:49:58 GMT 1, thanks for the info really helps ta
thanks for the info really helps ta
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craigf
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by craigf on Oct 24, 2017 21:08:43 GMT 1, hi
ive been on the hunt for signed banksy pieces, adn have come across the above by a dealer. Hes trying to tell me signatures are not as relevant with either originals or handfinished as the artist actually painted the work. He says it still does carry a premium, but not to the same extent that a signature would.
again, im an amateur to this, and was hoping for any direction on the matter.
thanks for your time. When it comes to originals, particularly the editions (let's not get into the debate whether an original has to be a 1 of 1) most of the ones by Banksy are not signed. There are exceptions of course which are signed and often on the originals the Banksy TAG on the side is claimed to be a signature
hi
ive been on the hunt for signed banksy pieces, adn have come across the above by a dealer. Hes trying to tell me signatures are not as relevant with either originals or handfinished as the artist actually painted the work. He says it still does carry a premium, but not to the same extent that a signature would.
again, im an amateur to this, and was hoping for any direction on the matter.
thanks for your time. When it comes to originals, particularly the editions (let's not get into the debate whether an original has to be a 1 of 1) most of the ones by Banksy are not signed. There are exceptions of course which are signed and often on the originals the Banksy TAG on the side is claimed to be a signature
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silvermyn
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by silvermyn on Oct 25, 2017 11:18:30 GMT 1, hi
ive been on the hunt for signed banksy pieces, adn have come across the above by a dealer. Hes trying to tell me signatures are not as relevant with either originals or handfinished as the artist actually painted the work. He says it still does carry a premium, but not to the same extent that a signature would.
again, im an amateur to this, and was hoping for any direction on the matter.
thanks for your time. When it comes to originals, particularly the editions (let's not get into the debate whether an original has to be a 1 of 1) most of the ones by Banksy are not signed. There are exceptions of course which are signed and often on the originals the Banksy TAG on the side is claimed to be a signature I would also draw a distinction between an original (which the artist has done by hand, albeit using a stencil) and a screen print that was created by a print house but later varied by the artist.
The original, as certified by PC, shows that the artist prepared the entirety of the piece. It doesn't need a signature to show that the artist executed the work. Nice but not important with PC certified originals. With a screen print, the print is not generally screened by Banksy himself and the only thing the artist can do to make it unique is a signature and/or some handfinishing.
There are signed prints and then there are handfinished signed prints. For example, there are some white edition CYWs and there are also some white edition CYWs that have red dots added to them. The versions with the red dots are viewed as more desirable as the artist made each print even more unique. What is interesting is that there are some prints that the artist has made unique but has not signed.
Some would argue that the prints can be ranked in the following order 1. signed handfinished; 2 signed; 3 unsigned handfinished; and 4 unsigned. There could be a lot of debate around whether a signed print is worth more that an unsigned handfinished print but I think generally collectors do prefer the signed prints.
hi
ive been on the hunt for signed banksy pieces, adn have come across the above by a dealer. Hes trying to tell me signatures are not as relevant with either originals or handfinished as the artist actually painted the work. He says it still does carry a premium, but not to the same extent that a signature would.
again, im an amateur to this, and was hoping for any direction on the matter.
thanks for your time. When it comes to originals, particularly the editions (let's not get into the debate whether an original has to be a 1 of 1) most of the ones by Banksy are not signed. There are exceptions of course which are signed and often on the originals the Banksy TAG on the side is claimed to be a signature I would also draw a distinction between an original (which the artist has done by hand, albeit using a stencil) and a screen print that was created by a print house but later varied by the artist.
The original, as certified by PC, shows that the artist prepared the entirety of the piece. It doesn't need a signature to show that the artist executed the work. Nice but not important with PC certified originals. With a screen print, the print is not generally screened by Banksy himself and the only thing the artist can do to make it unique is a signature and/or some handfinishing.
There are signed prints and then there are handfinished signed prints. For example, there are some white edition CYWs and there are also some white edition CYWs that have red dots added to them. The versions with the red dots are viewed as more desirable as the artist made each print even more unique. What is interesting is that there are some prints that the artist has made unique but has not signed.
Some would argue that the prints can be ranked in the following order 1. signed handfinished; 2 signed; 3 unsigned handfinished; and 4 unsigned. There could be a lot of debate around whether a signed print is worth more that an unsigned handfinished print but I think generally collectors do prefer the signed prints.
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silvermyn
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by silvermyn on Oct 25, 2017 11:44:24 GMT 1, Afterthought - let us throw in signed AP's too (I don't think there are any unsigned AP's but happy to be corrected). AP's could go either before or after signed, depending on the image and degree of vatiation from the main run. I think the BME AP's are not as sought after as the BME main edition. I can't recall the last time I saw a main edition BME for sale. However, I would definately take the BC AP over the main edition.
Maybe not worth thinking about ranking the prints too much because I have developped a bit of a migrane in getting this far...
Afterthought - let us throw in signed AP's too (I don't think there are any unsigned AP's but happy to be corrected). AP's could go either before or after signed, depending on the image and degree of vatiation from the main run. I think the BME AP's are not as sought after as the BME main edition. I can't recall the last time I saw a main edition BME for sale. However, I would definately take the BC AP over the main edition.
Maybe not worth thinking about ranking the prints too much because I have developped a bit of a migrane in getting this far...
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firstimer
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by firstimer on Apr 19, 2018 1:06:56 GMT 1, Signed morons just hit hammer yesterday for $19k + 25% premium, if that helps you out at all
Signed morons just hit hammer yesterday for $19k + 25% premium, if that helps you out at all
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Adam The Collector on Apr 19, 2018 1:11:11 GMT 1, Signed morons just hit hammer yesterday for $19k + 25% premium, if that helps you out at all What auction? Wouldn't mind taking a look...
Signed morons just hit hammer yesterday for $19k + 25% premium, if that helps you out at all What auction? Wouldn't mind taking a look...
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firstimer
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by firstimer on Apr 19, 2018 1:12:58 GMT 1, Artsy presents Heritage: Prints & Multiples
Artsy presents Heritage: Prints & Multiples
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