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Artists You Might Not Know, by Mirus Gallery on Jun 3, 2018 20:24:19 GMT 1, Also I think people need to realize that selling out a print doesn't amount to much now days, plenty of great artists don't sell out prints but sell original works of art. Also plenty of mediocre artists sell out prints but can't sell originals consistently. I could guess why this happens, most of it is that people are willing to speculate on an artist at a lower cost but not willing to really invest in an original because its cheaper to have less skin in the game. This forum alone has made print markets for mediocre artists, yet its not great at pushing original prices for those same artists. Why do you think that is? For me its about transparency, I always know what a print will cost and can make the judgement if I can afford it or not. With originals I always have to ask and risk looking lika a fool when I realise the prices was much higher that I thought and I can’t justify it for that piece. I hate having to ask for prices for every show where I’m interesting in a work hence I end up with more prints than originals.
Also I think people need to realize that selling out a print doesn't amount to much now days, plenty of great artists don't sell out prints but sell original works of art. Also plenty of mediocre artists sell out prints but can't sell originals consistently. I could guess why this happens, most of it is that people are willing to speculate on an artist at a lower cost but not willing to really invest in an original because its cheaper to have less skin in the game. This forum alone has made print markets for mediocre artists, yet its not great at pushing original prices for those same artists. Why do you think that is? For me its about transparency, I always know what a print will cost and can make the judgement if I can afford it or not. With originals I always have to ask and risk looking lika a fool when I realise the prices was much higher that I thought and I can’t justify it for that piece. I hate having to ask for prices for every show where I’m interesting in a work hence I end up with more prints than originals. I think its ok to keep asking for Sales PDF's unfortunately you are correct many of todays artists prices are very high, some deserving some inflated. But its good as a collector to watch prices, know prices, and continue to learn even if your not buying. This will make it easier when you do find something you like and can afford you will feel more comfortable knowing more. Also its good to talk to galleries that represent artists work you like and tell them your budget and artists you like, there are times when they can sort smaller works or paper originals that are unique and might not make exhibition sales PDFs. It always pays to communicate never feel bad for asking questions. |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Charlesworth on Jun 3, 2018 20:27:43 GMT 1, Pierre Schmidt
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Mirus Gallery on Jun 3, 2018 20:40:22 GMT 1, Heres a List of artists in my book that are still affordable but worth looking at.
Jillian Evelyn
Nelio
Terry Hoff
Sebastian Velasco
Chazme
Seikon
Zeser
Cain Caiser
Tobias Kroeger
St. Monci
Christopher Derek Bruno
Katyann Gilmore
Elian
Erosie
Demski
Blaqk
Daniel Munoz
Some are more affordable than others most I have represented in some way over the years as well as a disclaimer.
Heres a List of artists in my book that are still affordable but worth looking at.
Jillian Evelyn
Nelio
Terry Hoff
Sebastian Velasco
Chazme
Seikon
Zeser
Cain Caiser
Tobias Kroeger
St. Monci
Christopher Derek Bruno
Katyann Gilmore
Elian
Erosie
Demski
Blaqk
Daniel Munoz
Some are more affordable than others most I have represented in some way over the years as well as a disclaimer.
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Artists You Might Not Know, by nobokov on Jun 3, 2018 21:18:40 GMT 1, Heres a List of artists in my book that are still affordable but worth looking at. Jillian Evelyn Nelio Terry Hoff Sebastian Velasco Chazme Seikon Zeser Cain Caiser Tobias Kroeger St. Monci Christopher Derek Bruno Katyann Gilmore Elian Erosie Demski Blaqk Daniel Munoz Some are more affordable than others most I have represented in some way over the years as well as a disclaimer.
Heres a List of artists in my book that are still affordable but worth looking at. Jillian Evelyn Nelio Terry Hoff Sebastian Velasco Chazme Seikon Zeser Cain Caiser Tobias Kroeger St. Monci Christopher Derek Bruno Katyann Gilmore Elian Erosie Demski Blaqk Daniel Munoz Some are more affordable than others most I have represented in some way over the years as well as a disclaimer. Thanks for the insight. Do you have any recommendations of artists you aren't personally affiliated with? Be great to learn of more |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Mirus Gallery on Jun 3, 2018 21:26:00 GMT 1, Heres a List of artists in my book that are still affordable but worth looking at. Jillian Evelyn Nelio Terry Hoff Sebastian Velasco Chazme Seikon Zeser Cain Caiser Tobias Kroeger St. Monci Christopher Derek Bruno Katyann Gilmore Elian Erosie Demski Blaqk Daniel Munoz Some are more affordable than others most I have represented in some way over the years as well as a disclaimer. Thanks for the insight. Do you have any recommendations of artists you aren't personally affiliated with? Be great to learn of more
There are plenty of artists scheduling is tough and even if I believe in them its takes years for us to finally get on the calendar.
Heres a List of artists in my book that are still affordable but worth looking at. Jillian Evelyn Nelio Terry Hoff Sebastian Velasco Chazme Seikon Zeser Cain Caiser Tobias Kroeger St. Monci Christopher Derek Bruno Katyann Gilmore Elian Erosie Demski Blaqk Daniel Munoz Some are more affordable than others most I have represented in some way over the years as well as a disclaimer. Thanks for the insight. Do you have any recommendations of artists you aren't personally affiliated with? Be great to learn of more Haha Its my job to be affiliated with artists I believe in so I can't think of any off the top of my head. I have many more in the works also, but its hard for a gallery in todays instagram era. Ive worked with many more than this list and have more in the works, I will say that On this List I have never exhibited Elian, or Erosie. I also haven't work with Sebastian since 2015 where I Brought him to America for his first solo exhibition but havnt worked with them since, same for Daniel Munoz and Blaqk. I don't represent them in any way but believe in their work nonetheless and at some point schedules will allow it. There are plenty of artists scheduling is tough and even if I believe in them its takes years for us to finally get on the calendar. |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Happy Shopper on Jun 3, 2018 21:52:19 GMT 1, No. Discovered him the day after it sold!! I've been on the look out though. The print was nice....the sculptures though are amazing http://instagr.am/p/BjIaSCblchF
I hear there's a bunch of nice, small ceramic sculptures, starting at $500... Pretty seasonable!
No. Discovered him the day after it sold!! I've been on the look out though. The print was nice....the sculptures though are amazing http://instagr.am/p/BjIaSCblchF I hear there's a bunch of nice, small ceramic sculptures, starting at $500... Pretty seasonable! |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Pipes on Jun 3, 2018 22:23:20 GMT 1, I hear there's a bunch of nice, small ceramic sculptures, starting at $500... Pretty seasonable!
Salt? Pepper or something more sophisticated? Would they survive a marinade?
I hear there's a bunch of nice, small ceramic sculptures, starting at $500... Pretty seasonable! Salt? Pepper or something more sophisticated? Would they survive a marinade? |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Leo Boyd on Jun 3, 2018 22:54:59 GMT 1, Isn't it something to do with people are more likely to buy originals if they see them in the flesh as it were? Computer screens are pretty faithful when it comes to print/screen print reproduction in colour terms but are prettys**te when representing something that has a lot of subtlety and layers... There are also economic factors but I won't go into them as I am not long awake  I don't think people need to see work in the flesh in todays market. We do very large sales over PDF's as people usually know the artists work and have followed the artist enough to either know the quality of the work or have seen one in person before. But seeing the work in person I think is why galleries still exist, just this week for our grand opening we Brought a Kris Kuksi to Denver where people were blown away by the work in person and very appreciative to have us bring this work to their city. Most can't afford a 28K piece but I still am happy we were able to share the piece with the local art fans and collectors. We did end up selling a smaller 500.00 edition from the artist and I am ok with that.
In some ways this has created a market for work that looks good on a computer. As someone said above that urban art now is more graphic design than art... that is not a direct quote
I am a print maker and I do really love the art form. It is so experimental and the possibilities are pretty much endless so for me to hear 'prints' as somehow secondary to 'originals' is slightly depressing.
I think that is the kind of market/thinking that has allowed people like mr brainwash to thrive and that is not a good thing.
Christ, I sound well doomy here!
Leo
Isn't it something to do with people are more likely to buy originals if they see them in the flesh as it were? Computer screens are pretty faithful when it comes to print/screen print reproduction in colour terms but are prettys**te when representing something that has a lot of subtlety and layers... There are also economic factors but I won't go into them as I am not long awake I don't think people need to see work in the flesh in todays market. We do very large sales over PDF's as people usually know the artists work and have followed the artist enough to either know the quality of the work or have seen one in person before. But seeing the work in person I think is why galleries still exist, just this week for our grand opening we Brought a Kris Kuksi to Denver where people were blown away by the work in person and very appreciative to have us bring this work to their city. Most can't afford a 28K piece but I still am happy we were able to share the piece with the local art fans and collectors. We did end up selling a smaller 500.00 edition from the artist and I am ok with that. Yeah I agree with you in lots of ways and I'd say that you know more about this than me in that you run a gallery... My last exhibition I sold a few one off pieces from the gallery pdf before the exhibition started (which was a nice ego boost)... but and this is slightly off topic considering the name of this thread... I find it easier to sell editioned screen prints online as I think (maybe wrongly) that a computer screen reproduces the colours pretty faithfully whereas when it comes to more complex layered stuff the computer screen takes away a lot of the nuance. In some ways this has created a market for work that looks good on a computer. As someone said above that urban art now is more graphic design than art... that is not a direct quote I am a print maker and I do really love the art form. It is so experimental and the possibilities are pretty much endless so for me to hear 'prints' as somehow secondary to 'originals' is slightly depressing. I think that is the kind of market/thinking that has allowed people like mr brainwash to thrive and that is not a good thing. Christ, I sound well doomy here! Leo |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Happy Shopper on Jun 3, 2018 23:16:45 GMT 1, I hear there's a bunch of nice, small ceramic sculptures, starting at $500... Pretty seasonable! Salt? Pepper or something more sophisticated? Would they survive a marinade?
Haha... Well, seasonable and reasonable, and reasonably seasonal.
Either way... Great!
I hear there's a bunch of nice, small ceramic sculptures, starting at $500... Pretty seasonable! Salt? Pepper or something more sophisticated? Would they survive a marinade? Haha... Well, seasonable and reasonable, and reasonably seasonal. Either way... Great! |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Flashback on Jun 3, 2018 23:46:38 GMT 1, I like how this thread is going and it's especially cool when the names mentioned are outside the realm of Urban Art. I think that our tastes don't necessarily need to limit us to just one section of the art world. Thanks for posting everyone. I'll add a few more names of which I don't own artworks from any. Photographer Jake Michaels, IG @jokemichaels - love the colors and extreme contrast he captures Nicolas Party - particularly his landscapes and still life, though his weird portraits are growing on me Senon Williams Julie Curtiss New York Sunshine Toyin Ojih Odutola Quilts of Gee's Bend Till Gerhard Becky Kolsrud Gill Rocca Greg Ito Brecht Vandenbroucke Josh Smith              
I like how this thread is going and it's especially cool when the names mentioned are outside the realm of Urban Art. I think that our tastes don't necessarily need to limit us to just one section of the art world. Thanks for posting everyone. I'll add a few more names of which I don't own artworks from any. Photographer Jake Michaels, IG @jokemichaels - love the colors and extreme contrast he captures Nicolas Party - particularly his landscapes and still life, though his weird portraits are growing on me Senon Williams Julie Curtiss New York Sunshine Toyin Ojih Odutola Quilts of Gee's Bend Till Gerhard Becky Kolsrud Gill Rocca Greg Ito Brecht Vandenbroucke Josh Smith Varied range and I actually like more or less all of the works you've posted. Good choices:) |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 10:04:07 GMT 1, Open your horizons. Move away from just street / urban art.
We have artists on here that are loved that have nothing to do with urban art. Fridriks , shrigley are good examples.
The contemporary world is bigger, bolder and more exciting.
Go explore.
Open your horizons. Move away from just street / urban art.
We have artists on here that are loved that have nothing to do with urban art. Fridriks , shrigley are good examples.
The contemporary world is bigger, bolder and more exciting.
Go explore.
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Mirus Gallery on Jun 4, 2018 10:56:36 GMT 1, Open your horizons. Move away from just street / urban art. We have artists on here that are loved that have nothing to do with urban art. Fridriks , shrigley are good examples. The contemporary world is bigger, bolder and more exciting. Go explore.
What is great about collecting urban/graffiti/street art and just low brow artists associated with the genre its sometimes easier to look for progression in artists. Its easier to know where someone is coming from and see what they are doing in the streets first hand. You can look back and see what they contributed to the streets 10-20 years ago and see how they have progressed to here. I don't have that luxury when viewing contemporary art, maybe some of you have that vision or in depth knowledge to watch artists come out of MFA's or attend art fairs around the world talking to top tier contemporary galleries. As a curator even though I do actually do some of this research I still choose to work with artists that I can look back on where they came from how they got here and where they are going.
If I move into contemporary art as a collector I would have to rely on someone telling me whats good and trusting them, which is why as of now I would much rather trust my personal experience and knowledge within this niche genre. I genuinely also believe that this genre will still create some of the best painters in the next 50 years. But thats just my opinion and my vision. I also work with artists outside this genre, Katrin Fridriks was in our recent exhibition this last week. But I came upon her work years ago following a work from urban artist who's gallery also represented her. As I do with all artists I follow I watch them for years and if I am lucky I have the chance to work with them. Sometimes they disappear as well which is all part of the study. So for me yes always expand your vision but also utilize your personal eye and experience to guide you, don't just follow trends or hype.
Open your horizons. Move away from just street / urban art. We have artists on here that are loved that have nothing to do with urban art. Fridriks , shrigley are good examples. The contemporary world is bigger, bolder and more exciting. Go explore. I doubt that, not saying there isn't interesting artists outside the genre but if you move into contemporary art you'll need much for knowledge and guidance to navigate those waters. I appreciate many genres of art but one thing that I know is that my knowledge of art is based upon my personal experience and eye. When you start to look into the artworld you will find out its more volatile than ever on the emerging end with not much rhyme or reason, and in the blue chip its too big to fail. What is great about collecting urban/graffiti/street art and just low brow artists associated with the genre its sometimes easier to look for progression in artists. Its easier to know where someone is coming from and see what they are doing in the streets first hand. You can look back and see what they contributed to the streets 10-20 years ago and see how they have progressed to here. I don't have that luxury when viewing contemporary art, maybe some of you have that vision or in depth knowledge to watch artists come out of MFA's or attend art fairs around the world talking to top tier contemporary galleries. As a curator even though I do actually do some of this research I still choose to work with artists that I can look back on where they came from how they got here and where they are going. If I move into contemporary art as a collector I would have to rely on someone telling me whats good and trusting them, which is why as of now I would much rather trust my personal experience and knowledge within this niche genre. I genuinely also believe that this genre will still create some of the best painters in the next 50 years. But thats just my opinion and my vision. I also work with artists outside this genre, Katrin Fridriks was in our recent exhibition this last week. But I came upon her work years ago following a work from urban artist who's gallery also represented her. As I do with all artists I follow I watch them for years and if I am lucky I have the chance to work with them. Sometimes they disappear as well which is all part of the study. So for me yes always expand your vision but also utilize your personal eye and experience to guide you, don't just follow trends or hype. |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by racket on Jun 4, 2018 11:09:28 GMT 1, Open your horizons. Move away from just street / urban art. We have artists on here that are loved that have nothing to do with urban art. Fridriks , shrigley are good examples. The contemporary world is bigger, bolder and more exciting. Go explore. If I move into contemporary art as a collector I would have to rely on someone telling me whats good and trusting them
Or you could buy what you can afford and like the look of?
Open your horizons. Move away from just street / urban art. We have artists on here that are loved that have nothing to do with urban art. Fridriks , shrigley are good examples. The contemporary world is bigger, bolder and more exciting. Go explore. If I move into contemporary art as a collector I would have to rely on someone telling me whats good and trusting them Or you could buy what you can afford and like the look of? |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Mirus Gallery on Jun 4, 2018 11:42:03 GMT 1, If I move into contemporary art as a collector I would have to rely on someone telling me whats good and trusting them Or you could buy what you can afford and like the look of?
Yes You could use only those 2 factors to purchase an artwork, but from my experience buyers put a lot more into buying than just that.
If I move into contemporary art as a collector I would have to rely on someone telling me whats good and trusting them Or you could buy what you can afford and like the look of? Yes You could use only those 2 factors to purchase an artwork, but from my experience buyers put a lot more into buying than just that. |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by hui on Jun 4, 2018 12:22:37 GMT 1,
Sometimes you need guidance when viewing contemporary art; otherwise, you have no idea of what to look for. There's no shame in it, but knowledge does inform appreciatation. And at a certain level, if you spending thousands on a pieces, I would hope one would do some due diligence.
Sometimes you need guidance when viewing contemporary art; otherwise, you have no idea of what to look for. There's no shame in it, but knowledge does inform appreciatation. And at a certain level, if you spending thousands on a pieces, I would hope one would do some due diligence.
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Artists You Might Not Know, by wrigs on Jun 4, 2018 20:11:41 GMT 1, Unless you are buying it in order to appreciate in value why would you need guidance? Surely you know what you like and what you don’t?
Unless you are buying it in order to appreciate in value why would you need guidance? Surely you know what you like and what you don’t?
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Artists You Might Not Know, by racket on Jun 6, 2018 19:25:44 GMT 1, Matthew Wong is great (if hasn't already been mentioned)
Matthew Wong is great (if hasn't already been mentioned)
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Artists You Might Not Know, by jettad on Jun 6, 2018 20:51:29 GMT 1, I have been enjoying Joy Miessi's work recently. I think it was someone here who mentioned her, can't remember who, but thanks. I'm on a bit of a tight budget, so it is nice getting small original works fairly inexpensively, I managed to get these three.
Joy's nstagram:
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I have been enjoying Joy Miessi's work recently. I think it was someone here who mentioned her, can't remember who, but thanks. I'm on a bit of a tight budget, so it is nice getting small original works fairly inexpensively, I managed to get these three. Joy's nstagram: www.instagram.com/joymiessi/ |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by artgrenade on Jun 7, 2018 14:35:31 GMT 1, I’m not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but a lot of ‘street’ and ‘urban’ ‘art’ seems to be mass produced graphic design at the moment. All very uninspiring. Who’s that chap doing Mickey Mouse Giclees for over a grand?
I’m not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but a lot of ‘street’ and ‘urban’ ‘art’ seems to be mass produced graphic design at the moment. All very uninspiring. Who’s that chap doing Mickey Mouse Giclees for over a grand? David Spiller, Dan Baldwin? |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by AoT Framing on Jun 7, 2018 15:08:14 GMT 1, Haha, what a great thread. Im not one to judge but being around this forum long enough there isn't much that moves the needle besides that list of artists. Some are deserving others meh. But in the end I see this forum as a place to speculate about prices and art versus genuinely collecting. Maybe I am wrong and I know many of you guys actually have a real passion for collecting but maybe don't speak up. The only threads stay relevant are those selling or speculating. As a gallery I post plenty of new artists with installation shots and rarely get a reply. I still post hoping one day people would wake up and contribute more and share more about emerging artists.
I too run a gallery and spend ages organising shows, trying every type of promotion known to mankind to showcase fantastic emerging artists to the world (Brighton at least!) and mostly get zero response. In my experience people very rarely buy a piece of work for it's image or the emotional response from it, they'd much rather buy what is safe and has been bought by hundreds of other people, before they'll buy. It's just fashion not art. The successful galleries simply follow fashion, trying to set it, is nigh on impossible.
Haha, what a great thread. Im not one to judge but being around this forum long enough there isn't much that moves the needle besides that list of artists. Some are deserving others meh. But in the end I see this forum as a place to speculate about prices and art versus genuinely collecting. Maybe I am wrong and I know many of you guys actually have a real passion for collecting but maybe don't speak up. The only threads stay relevant are those selling or speculating. As a gallery I post plenty of new artists with installation shots and rarely get a reply. I still post hoping one day people would wake up and contribute more and share more about emerging artists. I hear you Mirus, I too run a gallery and spend ages organising shows, trying every type of promotion known to mankind to showcase fantastic emerging artists to the world (Brighton at least!) and mostly get zero response. In my experience people very rarely buy a piece of work for it's image or the emotional response from it, they'd much rather buy what is safe and has been bought by hundreds of other people, before they'll buy. It's just fashion not art. The successful galleries simply follow fashion, trying to set it, is nigh on impossible. |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by jesterful on Jun 7, 2018 18:25:23 GMT 1, Maybe if galleries were more honest with their pricing and didn’t take such a large commission people would be more inclined to buy something a bit different. Dropping a grand, maybe 1500 on a canvas is a lot easier than 3/4/5k in my opinion.
A lot of galleries will ask stupid prices in the hopes of trapping a sucker as well. Make the art more accessible more people might buy?
Maybe if galleries were more honest with their pricing and didn’t take such a large commission people would be more inclined to buy something a bit different. Dropping a grand, maybe 1500 on a canvas is a lot easier than 3/4/5k in my opinion.
A lot of galleries will ask stupid prices in the hopes of trapping a sucker as well. Make the art more accessible more people might buy?
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Jun 7, 2018 18:51:58 GMT 1, Maybe if galleries were more honest with their pricing and didn’t take such a large commission people would be more inclined to buy something a bit different. Dropping a grand, maybe 1500 on a canvas is a lot easier than 3/4/5k in my opinion. A lot of galleries will ask stupid prices in the hopes of trapping a sucker as well. Make the art more accessible more people might buy?
Been a lot of releases and some big prices, is it mainly normal people buying on credit card hoping to flip? Or a lot of money in the economy, rich people out there? Any of you cashed up rich guys or gallery owners want fly to OZ to buy my Banksy choc donuts? I’ll deduct the cost of your flight from the print price 😉
Maybe if galleries were more honest with their pricing and didn’t take such a large commission people would be more inclined to buy something a bit different. Dropping a grand, maybe 1500 on a canvas is a lot easier than 3/4/5k in my opinion. A lot of galleries will ask stupid prices in the hopes of trapping a sucker as well. Make the art more accessible more people might buy? Been a lot of releases and some big prices, is it mainly normal people buying on credit card hoping to flip? Or a lot of money in the economy, rich people out there? Any of you cashed up rich guys or gallery owners want fly to OZ to buy my Banksy choc donuts? I’ll deduct the cost of your flight from the print price 😉 |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by jettad on Jun 7, 2018 19:13:03 GMT 1, Any of you cashed up rich guys or gallery owners want fly to OZ to buy my Banksy choc donuts? I’ll deduct the cost of your flight from the print price 😉
Any of you cashed up rich guys or gallery owners want fly to OZ to buy my Banksy choc donuts? I’ll deduct the cost of your flight from the print price 😉 That is exactly how I was going to try to sell my Banksy! (Except to Seattle) Cuts out on shipping worries, they can declare it or not when going through customs at the airport, pick up a print a little cheaper, plus get to see Seattle for a few days. |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by Mirus Gallery on Jun 8, 2018 0:08:10 GMT 1, Maybe if galleries were more honest with their pricing and didn’t take such a large commission people would be more inclined to buy something a bit different. Dropping a grand, maybe 1500 on a canvas is a lot easier than 3/4/5k in my opinion. A lot of galleries will ask stupid prices in the hopes of trapping a sucker as well. Make the art more accessible more people might buy?
As far as commissions, I won't go into the details of how much it costs to run a gallery but I will assure you most the smaller galleries that represent street art/urban art are not making much money and in fact losing money. Which you might ask why do they stay in business losing money, well to some its about making exhibits sharing artwork with the city they rest in hoping things turn around I guess. Others maybe they are well off enough to lose money doing something they love. But believe me the commissions might not seem fair but its a business model created a long time ago and percentages set by people before us. Artists won't give up that large of a percentage if the gallery is not providing some value or help in promoting the artists career. Also there isn't much loyalty now days artists can go and come as they please and many selling direct to sellers is normal now. This change is here to stay and Im sure you can reach out to an artists and buy direct.
Maybe if galleries were more honest with their pricing and didn’t take such a large commission people would be more inclined to buy something a bit different. Dropping a grand, maybe 1500 on a canvas is a lot easier than 3/4/5k in my opinion. A lot of galleries will ask stupid prices in the hopes of trapping a sucker as well. Make the art more accessible more people might buy? There are many misconceptions about galleries and I know we are looked at as the bad people, but I hope thats just a stereotype. For one, not sure what galleries you have worked with that were dishonest with their pricing, but I would love to hear your viewpoint or perspective of this practice. As a gallery selling almost exclusively original works that are exhibited and then sold I don't know how my type of gallery would be dishonest in pricing. We get the price from the artist and sell the work we don't usually set any of the artists prices, they are given to us. To me this is very transparent and straightforward. As far as commissions, I won't go into the details of how much it costs to run a gallery but I will assure you most the smaller galleries that represent street art/urban art are not making much money and in fact losing money. Which you might ask why do they stay in business losing money, well to some its about making exhibits sharing artwork with the city they rest in hoping things turn around I guess. Others maybe they are well off enough to lose money doing something they love. But believe me the commissions might not seem fair but its a business model created a long time ago and percentages set by people before us. Artists won't give up that large of a percentage if the gallery is not providing some value or help in promoting the artists career. Also there isn't much loyalty now days artists can go and come as they please and many selling direct to sellers is normal now. This change is here to stay and Im sure you can reach out to an artists and buy direct. |
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Artists You Might Not Know, by brycepen on Jun 8, 2018 13:05:48 GMT 1, As an artist that mainly practices fine art utilizing classic techniques and mediums, I struggle to understand a lot of what drives the market of urban/contemporary/street art. It seems to me that there are a lot of artists who manage to make interesting prints and cash out on having a recognizable style and being broadly accessible.
I like this place because it helps me leave my fine art bubble and understand/appreciate new trends in art. But at the same time, I know that I cannot make art that catches the eyes of contemporary speculators.
I believe I make the best art when I stay true to myself and avoid the temptation of being provocative or creating the same pieces in some off-the-wall gimmicky style.
I wish urban and street art collectors could see that art using classic techniques and images can still be bold, innovative and modern in execution. Unfortunately, getting people to take a chance on buying originals from experienced but unknown artists for $1-$10k is difficult.
People always want an investment so they’ll lowball you on value. This is why I mostly only sell commissions or sell to family and friends for a slight discount. Better to sell to someone you love that will appreciate it for life than a stranger who wants to pay you 1/10th of what you deserve.
In sum, there will always be a list of 15-20 over-discussed artists while tens of thousands remain forever in obscurity
As an artist that mainly practices fine art utilizing classic techniques and mediums, I struggle to understand a lot of what drives the market of urban/contemporary/street art. It seems to me that there are a lot of artists who manage to make interesting prints and cash out on having a recognizable style and being broadly accessible.
I like this place because it helps me leave my fine art bubble and understand/appreciate new trends in art. But at the same time, I know that I cannot make art that catches the eyes of contemporary speculators.
I believe I make the best art when I stay true to myself and avoid the temptation of being provocative or creating the same pieces in some off-the-wall gimmicky style.
I wish urban and street art collectors could see that art using classic techniques and images can still be bold, innovative and modern in execution. Unfortunately, getting people to take a chance on buying originals from experienced but unknown artists for $1-$10k is difficult.
People always want an investment so they’ll lowball you on value. This is why I mostly only sell commissions or sell to family and friends for a slight discount. Better to sell to someone you love that will appreciate it for life than a stranger who wants to pay you 1/10th of what you deserve.
In sum, there will always be a list of 15-20 over-discussed artists while tens of thousands remain forever in obscurity
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