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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by taxidermot on Jun 4, 2010 1:54:25 GMT 1, no..but i live in hope
does your soul count?
no..but i live in hope
does your soul count?
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by mishco on Jun 4, 2010 19:51:48 GMT 1, This is Banksy latest, and at that price you would expect that its direct from printer to gallery. Not handled by who knows and how many. Thats all.
What a tiresome read, does it really make any difernce how many people have owned a piece of art before you?
i can picture the reaction now of some of the arses on here moaning if banksy prints were given direct to other galleries to be sold on at over inflated gallery prices, all brp is doing is buying from one and sellng to another in much the same way as your local corner shop would do with a packet of crisps. really not much difference so what's the fuss about. 
This is Banksy latest, and at that price you would expect that its direct from printer to gallery. Not handled by who knows and how many. Thats all. What a tiresome read, does it really make any difernce how many people have owned a piece of art before you? i can picture the reaction now of some of the arses on here moaning if banksy prints were given direct to other galleries to be sold on at over inflated gallery prices, all brp is doing is buying from one and sellng to another in much the same way as your local corner shop would do with a packet of crisps. really not much difference so what's the fuss about. |
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by nacional on Jun 4, 2010 20:21:07 GMT 1, Point that galleries need to ask higher prices due to overheads if very leaky. Many many galleries now are just virtual and have little or no overheads. As for "unvirtual" galleries justifying charging more than private buyers/ sellers, I have found that they actually don't. In all my dealings with galleries their listed price is just a punt, an invitation to treat, a shot in the dark. They push the price down the minute they sense a bite. I had galleries shifting down from 75K to 60k without my even asking and then when I uummed and aahhhed a bit wahacked it down to 52K. They just don't expect to get what they ask for....
Point that galleries need to ask higher prices due to overheads if very leaky. Many many galleries now are just virtual and have little or no overheads. As for "unvirtual" galleries justifying charging more than private buyers/ sellers, I have found that they actually don't. In all my dealings with galleries their listed price is just a punt, an invitation to treat, a shot in the dark. They push the price down the minute they sense a bite. I had galleries shifting down from 75K to 60k without my even asking and then when I uummed and aahhhed a bit wahacked it down to 52K. They just don't expect to get what they ask for....
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by jamo on Jun 4, 2010 21:38:32 GMT 1,
It's a free country. BRP have their overheads, wages, shows to put on, etc. and are entitled to sell at higher than the going rates that people 'in the know' (that use this forum) would pay. Just as they are entitled to pay what a forum member will take for a print.
I've bought and sold via this forum and for every transaction that has gone smoothly, I've been messed around on another.
Life's too short and some people prefer to buy from a business with a 'shop front' / premises, rather than through a forum, website or e bay, and not be messed around.
I've bought from BRP at their shows, on-line releases and a few from from them on the secondary market - and they've been efficient and reliable. Sometimes, I'd rather not have the hassles and pay a bit more. If they are charging too much you have the choice not buy or to haggle the price. Or to buy via the forum.
Although this year has seen a lot less BRP print releases and shows, I think they put a lot into this scene. I know its a bit of a shocker for some that they have to make a profit but last time I looked they were a business and not a registered charity.
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It's a free country. BRP have their overheads, wages, shows to put on, etc. and are entitled to sell at higher than the going rates that people 'in the know' (that use this forum) would pay. Just as they are entitled to pay what a forum member will take for a print.
I've bought and sold via this forum and for every transaction that has gone smoothly, I've been messed around on another.
Life's too short and some people prefer to buy from a business with a 'shop front' / premises, rather than through a forum, website or e bay, and not be messed around.
I've bought from BRP at their shows, on-line releases and a few from from them on the secondary market - and they've been efficient and reliable. Sometimes, I'd rather not have the hassles and pay a bit more. If they are charging too much you have the choice not buy or to haggle the price. Or to buy via the forum.
Although this year has seen a lot less BRP print releases and shows, I think they put a lot into this scene. I know its a bit of a shocker for some that they have to make a profit but last time I looked they were a business and not a registered charity.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by spenie1975 on Jun 4, 2010 22:42:08 GMT 1, They do put a lot back into the scene, but they also cancel orders on people re-selling prints they have released,, but reap the rewards of people doing the same with other galleries or print releases. No consistency in thier practice.
They do put a lot back into the scene, but they also cancel orders on people re-selling prints they have released,, but reap the rewards of people doing the same with other galleries or print releases. No consistency in thier practice.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by Happy Shopper on Jun 5, 2010 9:55:26 GMT 1, I guess they need to change their business model in order to survive. No harm in acting like any other gallery!
Just a shame they can't keep pure, and just represent their own artists. Tough times though...
I guess they need to change their business model in order to survive. No harm in acting like any other gallery!
Just a shame they can't keep pure, and just represent their own artists. Tough times though...
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by andyctree on Jun 5, 2010 14:40:06 GMT 1, I have only had great dealings with them.
Who really cares if they are selling some Banksy prints? They have as much right as anyone does.
This thread is ridiculous.
I have only had great dealings with them.
Who really cares if they are selling some Banksy prints? They have as much right as anyone does.
This thread is ridiculous.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by walshy on Jun 5, 2010 16:12:05 GMT 1, dont know... but caps are annoying to read
dont know... but caps are annoying to read
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by dime683 on Jun 5, 2010 17:55:15 GMT 1, Never mind that. I'v e been off this forum for a bit, but I note a new member, peggy, whoe reminds me of a much-missed member. POSTER'S STYLE OF COMMENT AND CONSTANT USE OF UPPER-CASE SUGGESTING BONGO MAY BE BACK IN THE HOUSE?
was thinking the same thing
Never mind that. I'v e been off this forum for a bit, but I note a new member, peggy, whoe reminds me of a much-missed member. POSTER'S STYLE OF COMMENT AND CONSTANT USE OF UPPER-CASE SUGGESTING BONGO MAY BE BACK IN THE HOUSE? was thinking the same thing |
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by Warm Gun on Jun 5, 2010 18:27:18 GMT 1, clearly is the same person be it shouting dog or shouting ape.
clearly is the same person be it shouting dog or shouting ape.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by bullet on Jun 5, 2010 18:30:38 GMT 1, i dont see WHY this thread is pointless?
they banned people for buying and flipping prints are now doing it themselves. explain.
i dont see WHY this thread is pointless?
they banned people for buying and flipping prints are now doing it themselves. explain.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by curiousgeorge on Jun 5, 2010 19:15:14 GMT 1, More than a few collectors have found them unscrupulous and unprofessional in the past, legend has it they were approached to do the Subway Art 25th anniversary book release and they were not even aware of the book or it's place in history
How long left on the lease now? 
Jboy mental thread given the history you have! How many Adam Neate street pics did you search for and locate with the sole(sic) intention of selling them to buy new shoes??? save for a token charity donation
More than a few collectors have found them unscrupulous and unprofessional in the past, legend has it they were approached to do the Subway Art 25th anniversary book release and they were not even aware of the book or it's place in history How long left on the lease now? Jboy mental thread given the history you have! How many Adam Neate street pics did you search for and locate with the sole(sic) intention of selling them to buy new shoes??? save for a token charity donation |
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by bullet on Jun 5, 2010 19:23:10 GMT 1, yeah but im not a 'gallery'
that token charity donation totalled near to £300. please PM me with how much you donated by getting up, going out, finding stuff for keeps, then donating to charity.
yeah but im not a 'gallery'
that token charity donation totalled near to £300. please PM me with how much you donated by getting up, going out, finding stuff for keeps, then donating to charity.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by curiousgeorge on Jun 5, 2010 19:47:27 GMT 1, I make a difference with a hands on approach every week if that counts?
Anyway i think people were trying to point out it's a bit ironic you complaining, if you can't see why people would think that way, then you are a couple of pork pies short of a hamper.
I recall another member finding half a dozen or so and giving them to forum members
I make a difference with a hands on approach every week if that counts?
Anyway i think people were trying to point out it's a bit ironic you complaining, if you can't see why people would think that way, then you are a couple of pork pies short of a hamper.
I recall another member finding half a dozen or so and giving them to forum members
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by bullet on Jun 5, 2010 19:54:31 GMT 1, more fool him
more fool him
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by rosstierney on Jun 5, 2010 20:02:58 GMT 1,
The epitome of why you're a dick.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by bullet on Jun 5, 2010 20:17:43 GMT 1, on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back.
there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guessing most of you guys are exactly that. Tell me what you have sent people? or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many many things.
on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back.
there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guessing most of you guys are exactly that. Tell me what you have sent people? or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many many things.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by curiousgeorge on Jun 5, 2010 20:47:19 GMT 1, Are you under instruction to create some drama/traffic or just acting the goat?
Just curious..
Are you under instruction to create some drama/traffic or just acting the goat?
Just curious..
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by borusa on Jun 5, 2010 20:55:52 GMT 1, on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back. there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guess most of you guys are exactly that. tell me what you have sent people. or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many.
LOL
on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back. there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guess most of you guys are exactly that. tell me what you have sent people. or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many. LOL |
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by andyctree on Jun 6, 2010 14:02:21 GMT 1, on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back.there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guessing most of you guys are exactly that. Tell me what you have sent people? or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many many things.
Maybe we don't want to sit and pat ourselves on the back like some people. 
on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back.there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guessing most of you guys are exactly that. Tell me what you have sent people? or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many many things. Maybe we don't want to sit and pat ourselves on the back like some people. |
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by bullet on Jun 6, 2010 14:44:23 GMT 1, english?
english?
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by silvermyn on Jun 7, 2010 12:15:40 GMT 1, This is typical supply and demand, Galleries have to rent space and have overheads, they charge more because people like to feel that they can return to the place if they have a problem and trust them because of this, the price of trust on a Banksy NBG Grey seems to be in the region of £800 - £900. I'm a gambler I'd rather bank the extra and take my chances.. this does mean that I have been sold fake and damaged prints but in the long term I'm still in pocket, there is no problem in my eyes buying at one price and selling at another, thats just sensible really
I remember you getting that duff Love Rat. That was a bummer...
This is typical supply and demand, Galleries have to rent space and have overheads, they charge more because people like to feel that they can return to the place if they have a problem and trust them because of this, the price of trust on a Banksy NBG Grey seems to be in the region of £800 - £900. I'm a gambler I'd rather bank the extra and take my chances.. this does mean that I have been sold fake and damaged prints but in the long term I'm still in pocket, there is no problem in my eyes buying at one price and selling at another, thats just sensible really I remember you getting that duff Love Rat. That was a bummer... |
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by Deleted on Jun 10, 2010 15:15:28 GMT 1, on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back. there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guessing most of you guys are exactly that. Tell me what you have sent people? or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many many things.
So you are saying you have never leached off others in the past then flipped it on?
on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back. there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guessing most of you guys are exactly that. Tell me what you have sent people? or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many many things. So you are saying you have never leached off others in the past then flipped it on? |
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by bullet on Jun 12, 2010 14:21:55 GMT 1, on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back. there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guessing most of you guys are exactly that. Tell me what you have sent people? or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many many things. So you are saying you have never leached off others in the past then flipped it on?
i have never leached off anyone
on the contrary. i send members things all the time on here, i just dont make a big deal of it to get the pats on the back. there is many people on here who would leach anything and not reciprocate and i am guessing most of you guys are exactly that. Tell me what you have sent people? or on the other hand, tell me what you have received and then sold on the sly. i would say many many things. So you are saying you have never leached off others in the past then flipped it on? i have never leached off anyone |
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by smellmyfinger on Jun 12, 2010 17:57:57 GMT 1, FR as you do send things out to forum members, could you send me a print or two? I promise to mention how fantastic you are.
FR as you do send things out to forum members, could you send me a print or two? I promise to mention how fantastic you are.
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by bullet on Jun 12, 2010 18:58:23 GMT 1, Sure, pm me your address and ill send you a banksy poster. Only had to ask
Sure, pm me your address and ill send you a banksy poster. Only had to ask
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by smellmyfinger on Jun 12, 2010 19:19:42 GMT 1, You're joking right? I tell you what I'll send you my latest Peter Blake print and you send me a Banksy by return. Is it a deal?
You're joking right? I tell you what I'll send you my latest Peter Blake print and you send me a Banksy by return. Is it a deal?
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by bullet on Jun 12, 2010 21:36:10 GMT 1, No im serious, if you want me to prove it, send me your address. Actions speak louder than words
No im serious, if you want me to prove it, send me your address. Actions speak louder than words
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by smellmyfinger on Jun 12, 2010 22:13:02 GMT 1, Respect to you FR. I take it by a Banksy print that it will not be one registered with Pest Control? I'm well up for a game of brinkmanship but I love this art thing too much to be messed around. Plus the fact I don't actually own one yet. I'll pm you my address if you can tell me the print you will be sending. I tell you what, if it is kosher I'll send you a cheque for £50 for a charity of your choice. Not a lot of cash I know, but I am very skint. If you want to stop here then fine with me and I will respect just as much. What do you think?
Respect to you FR. I take it by a Banksy print that it will not be one registered with Pest Control? I'm well up for a game of brinkmanship but I love this art thing too much to be messed around. Plus the fact I don't actually own one yet. I'll pm you my address if you can tell me the print you will be sending. I tell you what, if it is kosher I'll send you a cheque for £50 for a charity of your choice. Not a lot of cash I know, but I am very skint. If you want to stop here then fine with me and I will respect just as much. What do you think?
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Banksy print at BlackRatPress, by spenie1975 on Jun 12, 2010 22:21:21 GMT 1, Think Jboy means on of the recent Banksy posters, not a print. I may be wrong though, I've heard he can be quite generous. 
Think Jboy means on of the recent Banksy posters, not a print. I may be wrong though, I've heard he can be quite generous. |
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