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Celebrity Art Collectors, by G-Man on Mar 24, 2010 23:19:28 GMT 1, Bansky sculptures eh??
Bronze rat perhaps?
Bansky sculptures eh??
Bronze rat perhaps?
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Daniel Silk on Mar 24, 2010 23:23:08 GMT 1, Bansky sculptures eh?? Bronze rat perhaps?
hmmm, Dunno  anyone spot anything here -
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Daniel Silk on Mar 24, 2010 23:25:21 GMT 1, The Art of Dennis Hopper
The Art of Dennis Hopper
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Daniel Silk on Mar 24, 2010 23:30:50 GMT 1, PARIS HILTON - ANTHONY LISTER
PARIS HILTON - ANTHONY LISTER
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Daniel Silk on Mar 24, 2010 23:33:00 GMT 1, Angelina Jolie & Brad Pitt at the Museum of Contemporary Art's 30th anniversary
Angelina Jolie & Brad Pitt at the Museum of Contemporary Art's 30th anniversary
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Pure Evil on Mar 25, 2010 5:22:30 GMT 1, Bansky sculptures eh?? Bronze rat perhaps? hmmm, Dunno anyone spot anything here -
I think it was a TV from the LA show..
Bansky sculptures eh?? Bronze rat perhaps? hmmm, Dunno anyone spot anything here - I think it was a TV from the LA show.. |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by ratzi on Mar 25, 2010 14:30:17 GMT 1, i know Lucy Benjamin has a lot of banksy and Dface prints.
i know Lucy Benjamin has a lot of banksy and Dface prints.
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Daniel Silk on Mar 26, 2010 0:37:35 GMT 1, www.paulfrasercollectibles.com/section.asp?catid=26&docid=2519
"'Bored' Brad Pitt forgets to mention his love of Banksy
According to reports, Pitt has forgotten that art collecting is one of the best ways to ease boredom...
According to today's news reports, Hollywood star Brad Pitt has revealed the reason for the unkempt billy goat beard that he has been sporting recently.
"It's boredom, no other reason than that," he reportedly told The Sun while promoting his new superhero movie, Kick-ass.
Apparently, Pitt revealed that his second favourite way of alleviating boredom is to work out - especially while listening to UK rapper, Dizzee Rascal.
Yet Pitt neglected to mention his other major hobby: a love of art collecting - in particular, the highly-successful street artist Banksy.
As we've long maintained at Paul Fraser Collectibles, art collecting is one of the very best ways of combating boredom.
Pitt's fondness for Banksy is reportedly shared by Angelina Jolie, his partner and Mr and Mrs Smith co-star.
Works in the Hollywood A-list couple's collection include Picnic, a Banksy work in black and white - except for a red tablecloth - which depicts a family of four lunching while 15 starving Africans look on.
Pitt, whose cinema hits include the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, and Jolie, star of Wanted and Beowulf, reportedly purchased the piece for $226,000.
Other Banksy treasures in the pair's collection include a white bust with a bleeding bullet hold in its forehead ($75,000) and a framed portrait of a man hit with a custard pie (again worth $75,000).
Both Jolie and Pitt also appear briefly in Banksy's recent hit "street art disaster movie," Exit Through the Gift Shop.
They are shown attending a Banksy exhibition where the Bristol-based artist notoriously painted graffiti on a live elephant - much to the annoyance of animal rights enthusiasts.
Banky's ascent from street artist to cause celebre of the Hollywood elite has also seen his artwork emerge in Easy Rider star and famed art collector Dennis Hopper's messy ongoing divorce.
Apparently, the terminally ill Hopper has accused his soon-to-be-ex-wife of stealing one of his Banksy artworks.
Entitled In The Future Everyone Will Be Anonymous for 15 Minutes, the work has reportedly vanished from his extensive art collection."
www.paulfrasercollectibles.com/section.asp?catid=26&docid=2519"'Bored' Brad Pitt forgets to mention his love of Banksy According to reports, Pitt has forgotten that art collecting is one of the best ways to ease boredom... According to today's news reports, Hollywood star Brad Pitt has revealed the reason for the unkempt billy goat beard that he has been sporting recently. "It's boredom, no other reason than that," he reportedly told The Sun while promoting his new superhero movie, Kick-ass. Apparently, Pitt revealed that his second favourite way of alleviating boredom is to work out - especially while listening to UK rapper, Dizzee Rascal. Yet Pitt neglected to mention his other major hobby: a love of art collecting - in particular, the highly-successful street artist Banksy. As we've long maintained at Paul Fraser Collectibles, art collecting is one of the very best ways of combating boredom. Pitt's fondness for Banksy is reportedly shared by Angelina Jolie, his partner and Mr and Mrs Smith co-star. Works in the Hollywood A-list couple's collection include Picnic, a Banksy work in black and white - except for a red tablecloth - which depicts a family of four lunching while 15 starving Africans look on. Pitt, whose cinema hits include the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, and Jolie, star of Wanted and Beowulf, reportedly purchased the piece for $226,000. Other Banksy treasures in the pair's collection include a white bust with a bleeding bullet hold in its forehead ($75,000) and a framed portrait of a man hit with a custard pie (again worth $75,000). Both Jolie and Pitt also appear briefly in Banksy's recent hit "street art disaster movie," Exit Through the Gift Shop. They are shown attending a Banksy exhibition where the Bristol-based artist notoriously painted graffiti on a live elephant - much to the annoyance of animal rights enthusiasts. Banky's ascent from street artist to cause celebre of the Hollywood elite has also seen his artwork emerge in Easy Rider star and famed art collector Dennis Hopper's messy ongoing divorce. Apparently, the terminally ill Hopper has accused his soon-to-be-ex-wife of stealing one of his Banksy artworks. Entitled In The Future Everyone Will Be Anonymous for 15 Minutes, the work has reportedly vanished from his extensive art collection."
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by yapsey on Mar 27, 2010 14:31:46 GMT 1, thieving little minx
thieving little minx
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by jmarksartco on Mar 28, 2010 2:45:32 GMT 1, Nobody wants to admit this, but YES, celebrity collectors - IF - they are seen as taste makers are very positive for artist (prices) because they add credibility and "social proof". This is especially the case in this market (street art) which is lower priced and appeals to younger collectors who are influenced by the media.
Unlike more mainstream art market, there is no "celebrity" collector who has the weight of a Saatchi.
Kanye West seems to have some level of taste. He has a good instinct for the "now". It is notable that he dumped Murakami for KAWS. (imho, KAWS is probably one of the 2-3 street artists of the current generation whose work will actually be worth anything in 10 years.)
Nobody wants to admit this, but YES, celebrity collectors - IF - they are seen as taste makers are very positive for artist (prices) because they add credibility and "social proof". This is especially the case in this market (street art) which is lower priced and appeals to younger collectors who are influenced by the media.
Unlike more mainstream art market, there is no "celebrity" collector who has the weight of a Saatchi.
Kanye West seems to have some level of taste. He has a good instinct for the "now". It is notable that he dumped Murakami for KAWS. (imho, KAWS is probably one of the 2-3 street artists of the current generation whose work will actually be worth anything in 10 years.)
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Nico on Mar 28, 2010 7:44:42 GMT 1, Nobody wants to admit this, but YES, celebrity collectors - IF - they are seen as taste makers are very positive for artist (prices) because they add credibility and "social proof". This is especially the case in this market (street art) which is lower priced and appeals to younger collectors who are influenced by the media. Unlike more mainstream art market, there is no "celebrity" collector who has the weight of a Saatchi. Kanye West seems to have some level of taste. He has a good instinct for the "now". It is notable that he dumped Murakami for KAWS. (imho, KAWS is probably one of the 2-3 street artists of the current generation whose work will actually be worth anything in 10 years.)
2-3 artists who will be worth anything in 10 yrs??? Man, sorry but you're missing out on a LOT of talented artists who WILL be here in more than 10 yrs. Check around, there's not only artists who have jumped the band wagon, there's actually A LOT of talent around. 
Nobody wants to admit this, but YES, celebrity collectors - IF - they are seen as taste makers are very positive for artist (prices) because they add credibility and "social proof". This is especially the case in this market (street art) which is lower priced and appeals to younger collectors who are influenced by the media. Unlike more mainstream art market, there is no "celebrity" collector who has the weight of a Saatchi. Kanye West seems to have some level of taste. He has a good instinct for the "now". It is notable that he dumped Murakami for KAWS. (imho, KAWS is probably one of the 2-3 street artists of the current generation whose work will actually be worth anything in 10 years.) 2-3 artists who will be worth anything in 10 yrs??? Man, sorry but you're missing out on a LOT of talented artists who WILL be here in more than 10 yrs. Check around, there's not only artists who have jumped the band wagon, there's actually A LOT of talent around. |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by jmarksartco on Mar 28, 2010 22:36:15 GMT 1, Yes, I think there are only a handful of names in the urban/street world whose work will still resonate and stand the test of time over the next 10 years - and be worth any money.
It's just like any other art movement. How many artists were doing abstract expressionist stuff in the 50's? THOUSANDS. POP in the 60's? Thousands. But only a handful of artists produced work that stands the test of time, and has market value.
There is a very low "barrier to entry" in this street art, and as a result 95% of the work is derivative, unoriginal, boring crap produced by trust fund wankers, who are whining about perceived "social injustice", and making various "ironic" statements.
This type of work is a trendy for 15 minutes. Before the public moves onto the next thing. So yes, 95% of the stuff you see today will be worthless in about 10 years. However there will be an opportunity to scoop up the crappy stuff cheap in about 20 years, right before there is a revival in the "street art" of the early 21st century.
Really think about it. Do you think the current "hot" images will be something your children will care about in 15 years?? Or will it be irrelevent for the society in that time?
Yes, I think there are only a handful of names in the urban/street world whose work will still resonate and stand the test of time over the next 10 years - and be worth any money.
It's just like any other art movement. How many artists were doing abstract expressionist stuff in the 50's? THOUSANDS. POP in the 60's? Thousands. But only a handful of artists produced work that stands the test of time, and has market value.
There is a very low "barrier to entry" in this street art, and as a result 95% of the work is derivative, unoriginal, boring crap produced by trust fund wankers, who are whining about perceived "social injustice", and making various "ironic" statements.
This type of work is a trendy for 15 minutes. Before the public moves onto the next thing. So yes, 95% of the stuff you see today will be worthless in about 10 years. However there will be an opportunity to scoop up the crappy stuff cheap in about 20 years, right before there is a revival in the "street art" of the early 21st century.
Really think about it. Do you think the current "hot" images will be something your children will care about in 15 years?? Or will it be irrelevent for the society in that time?
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Nico on Mar 28, 2010 23:15:59 GMT 1, Yes, I think there are only a handful of names in the urban/street world whose work will still resonate and stand the test of time over the next 10 years - and be worth any money. It's just like any other art movement. How many artists were doing abstract expressionist stuff in the 50's? THOUSANDS. POP in the 60's? Thousands. But only a handful of artists produced work that stands the test of time, and has market value. There is a very low "barrier to entry" in this street art, and as a result 95% of the work is derivative, unoriginal, boring crap produced by trust fund wankers, who are whining about perceived "social injustice", and making various "ironic" statements. This type of work is a trendy for 15 minutes. Before the public moves onto the next thing. So yes, 95% of the stuff you see today will be worthless in about 10 years. However there will be an opportunity to scoop up the crappy stuff cheap in about 20 years, right before there is a revival in the "street art" of the early 21st century. Really think about it. Do you think the current "hot" images will be something your children will care about in 15 years?? Or will it be irrelevent for the society in that time?
I still think a lot of artists aren't to be included in your statement.
To name a few in no particular order, but really...quite useless as I'll miss a lot more:
Case
Herakut
Matt Small
Adam Neate
Xenz
Os Gemeos
Best Ever
Denning
Parla
Take these already (and it didn't take 1 minute to come up with them).
Do you think they enter your group of "95% of the work is derivative, unoriginal, boring crap produced by trust fund wankers, who are whining about perceived "social injustice", and making various "ironic" statements. "
These are actual artists, and there are many more. They aren't just carrying around their stencils made thanks to a bit of photoshop.
Yes, I think there are only a handful of names in the urban/street world whose work will still resonate and stand the test of time over the next 10 years - and be worth any money. It's just like any other art movement. How many artists were doing abstract expressionist stuff in the 50's? THOUSANDS. POP in the 60's? Thousands. But only a handful of artists produced work that stands the test of time, and has market value. There is a very low "barrier to entry" in this street art, and as a result 95% of the work is derivative, unoriginal, boring crap produced by trust fund wankers, who are whining about perceived "social injustice", and making various "ironic" statements. This type of work is a trendy for 15 minutes. Before the public moves onto the next thing. So yes, 95% of the stuff you see today will be worthless in about 10 years. However there will be an opportunity to scoop up the crappy stuff cheap in about 20 years, right before there is a revival in the "street art" of the early 21st century. Really think about it. Do you think the current "hot" images will be something your children will care about in 15 years?? Or will it be irrelevent for the society in that time? I still think a lot of artists aren't to be included in your statement. To name a few in no particular order, but really...quite useless as I'll miss a lot more: Case Herakut Matt Small Adam Neate Xenz Os Gemeos Best Ever Denning Parla Take these already (and it didn't take 1 minute to come up with them). Do you think they enter your group of "95% of the work is derivative, unoriginal, boring crap produced by trust fund wankers, who are whining about perceived "social injustice", and making various "ironic" statements. " These are actual artists, and there are many more. They aren't just carrying around their stencils made thanks to a bit of photoshop. |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by jmarksartco on Mar 29, 2010 18:36:21 GMT 1, Out of this group, the only one that has any chance of retaining/increasing value is Parla.
I say that because:
- highly original (even though there is clear influence of Cy Twombly, et all.)
- aesthetically pleasing and decorative (i.e. appeals to large market)
Parla actually brings something to the table. The other guys you mention are not even in the same league...
Out of this group, the only one that has any chance of retaining/increasing value is Parla.
I say that because:
- highly original (even though there is clear influence of Cy Twombly, et all.)
- aesthetically pleasing and decorative (i.e. appeals to large market)
Parla actually brings something to the table. The other guys you mention are not even in the same league...
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by nah on Mar 29, 2010 19:59:41 GMT 1, Out of this group, the only one that has any chance of retaining/increasing value is Parla. I say that because: - highly original (even though there is clear influence of Cy Twombly, et all.) - aesthetically pleasing and decorative (i.e. appeals to large market) Parla actually brings something to the table. The other guys you mention are not even in the same league...
os gemeos have a pretty decent shot too imo...
Out of this group, the only one that has any chance of retaining/increasing value is Parla. I say that because: - highly original (even though there is clear influence of Cy Twombly, et all.) - aesthetically pleasing and decorative (i.e. appeals to large market) Parla actually brings something to the table. The other guys you mention are not even in the same league... os gemeos have a pretty decent shot too imo... |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by spirit on Mar 29, 2010 20:34:14 GMT 1, Out of this group, the only one that has any chance of retaining/increasing value is Parla. I say that because: - highly original (even though there is clear influence of Cy Twombly, et all.) - aesthetically pleasing and decorative (i.e. appeals to large market) Parla actually brings something to the table. The other guys you mention are not even in the same league...
I'm inclined to agree with you - although I think Neate also has a chance.
Out of this group, the only one that has any chance of retaining/increasing value is Parla. I say that because: - highly original (even though there is clear influence of Cy Twombly, et all.) - aesthetically pleasing and decorative (i.e. appeals to large market) Parla actually brings something to the table. The other guys you mention are not even in the same league... I'm inclined to agree with you - although I think Neate also has a chance. |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Nico on Mar 29, 2010 20:54:58 GMT 1, Out of this group, the only one that has any chance of retaining/increasing value is Parla. I say that because: - highly original (even though there is clear influence of Cy Twombly, et all.) - aesthetically pleasing and decorative (i.e. appeals to large market) Parla actually brings something to the table. The other guys you mention are not even in the same league...
Ok, anyway, it's not really important wether I convince you or not. I had said that this was a short list of artists IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER and I guess we all have different tastes, some will agree with you...some with me and others with neither of us.
Out of this group, the only one that has any chance of retaining/increasing value is Parla. I say that because: - highly original (even though there is clear influence of Cy Twombly, et all.) - aesthetically pleasing and decorative (i.e. appeals to large market) Parla actually brings something to the table. The other guys you mention are not even in the same league... Ok, anyway, it's not really important wether I convince you or not. I had said that this was a short list of artists IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER and I guess we all have different tastes, some will agree with you...some with me and others with neither of us. |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by jmarksartco on Mar 30, 2010 2:41:15 GMT 1, You are right...As the saying goes: "opinions are like as.sholes - everybody's got one" :-O
You are right...As the saying goes: "opinions are like as.sholes - everybody's got one" :-O
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Nico on Mar 30, 2010 7:29:24 GMT 1, You are right...As the saying goes: "opinions are like as.sholes - everybody's got one" :-O
I was gonna use that one! ;D
You are right...As the saying goes: "opinions are like as.sholes - everybody's got one" :-O I was gonna use that one! ;D |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by lee3 on Apr 5, 2010 18:09:46 GMT 1, >>>The Johns Flag is amazing <<<
The whisper is 70 to 80MM. I'm personally sad to see the SF Moma ship out thier on-loan JJ flag. Castelli's son sold it to Steven Cohen for $110MM about a month ago and it's larger than the gem from the Chrichton estate. May is going to be an unbelievable month to watch from the sidelines.
>>>The Johns Flag is amazing <<<
The whisper is 70 to 80MM. I'm personally sad to see the SF Moma ship out thier on-loan JJ flag. Castelli's son sold it to Steven Cohen for $110MM about a month ago and it's larger than the gem from the Chrichton estate. May is going to be an unbelievable month to watch from the sidelines.
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by AoT Framing on May 4, 2010 15:40:56 GMT 1, I know Antony Micallef has a Charming Baker piece. I hear Micallef has already seen the work from Baker's New York show and he's absolutely raving about it.
I heard that too! Micallef also collects John Simpson and has 3 originals by him. www.artoftreason.co.uk
I know Antony Micallef has a Charming Baker piece. I hear Micallef has already seen the work from Baker's New York show and he's absolutely raving about it. I heard that too! Micallef also collects John Simpson and has 3 originals by him. www.artoftreason.co.uk |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Daniel Silk on Mar 22, 2016 16:37:31 GMT 1, Do Celebrity Art Collectors affect the Urban Art scene much?
I mean do you think a particular celebrity buying an artists work affects their sales and values? or can it also work against an Artists if the Celeb is unpopular with the public? maybe that person has views that dont fit well with most people in the Graffiti or Urban Art Scene?
I think Banksy has gained by the media coverage when famous people have started collecting his work.
Do you think Artists now try to hunt down celebrities who might like their work maybe even giving it away in the hope of good media coverage after?
uk.complex.com/style/2011/09/25-celebrities-with-baller-art-collections/18
www.bbc.com/culture/story/20140506-hollywoods-coveted-new-trophies
Do Celebrity Art Collectors affect the Urban Art scene much? I mean do you think a particular celebrity buying an artists work affects their sales and values? or can it also work against an Artists if the Celeb is unpopular with the public? maybe that person has views that dont fit well with most people in the Graffiti or Urban Art Scene? I think Banksy has gained by the media coverage when famous people have started collecting his work. Do you think Artists now try to hunt down celebrities who might like their work maybe even giving it away in the hope of good media coverage after? uk.complex.com/style/2011/09/25-celebrities-with-baller-art-collections/18www.bbc.com/culture/story/20140506-hollywoods-coveted-new-trophies |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by thewral on Mar 22, 2016 16:41:09 GMT 1, In my opinion, of course celebs collecting a particular artist increases the value of that artist. There are many examples.
Also, what do you mean by a celebrity that isn't popular with the public?
In my opinion, of course celebs collecting a particular artist increases the value of that artist. There are many examples.
Also, what do you mean by a celebrity that isn't popular with the public?
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by vernaxley on Mar 22, 2016 16:46:43 GMT 1, In my opinion, of course celebs collecting a particular artist increases the value of that artist. There are many examples. Also, what do you mean by a celebrity that isn't popular with the public?
That would imply that all celebrities have not only taste but also influence.
Having said that, I know Christina Aguilera single-handedly kick-started the DFace fine art market.
And then there's Elton John's patronage of Stik, so maybe I'm wrong and celebrities are right.
In my opinion, of course celebs collecting a particular artist increases the value of that artist. There are many examples. Also, what do you mean by a celebrity that isn't popular with the public? That would imply that all celebrities have not only taste but also influence. Having said that, I know Christina Aguilera single-handedly kick-started the DFace fine art market. And then there's Elton John's patronage of Stik, so maybe I'm wrong and celebrities are right. |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by thewral on Mar 22, 2016 16:50:02 GMT 1, vernaxley - influence yes... taste I don't see as necessarily connected to value.
vernaxley - influence yes... taste I don't see as necessarily connected to value.
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by thewral on Mar 22, 2016 16:51:06 GMT 1, And maybe not so much influence, per se, but providing visibility to the art that's being collected (through IG, etc.)
And maybe not so much influence, per se, but providing visibility to the art that's being collected (through IG, etc.)
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by Daniel Silk on Mar 22, 2016 16:55:11 GMT 1, Also, what do you mean by a celebrity that isn't popular with the public?
errrrmmm I will just make one up for an example
Imagine Donald Trump appeared in the news as a big Miss Bugs collector! Would that be good or bad for the artist?
Also, what do you mean by a celebrity that isn't popular with the public? errrrmmm I will just make one up for an example Imagine Donald Trump appeared in the news as a big Miss Bugs collector! Would that be good or bad for the artist? |
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Celebrity Art Collectors, by thewral on Mar 22, 2016 16:56:56 GMT 1, There's a lot of people who like Donald Trump in the U.S.
Disclaimer: I am not one of them.
There's a lot of people who like Donald Trump in the U.S.
Disclaimer: I am not one of them.
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