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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 12:25:19 GMT 1, after speaking with a couple of other artists, we have found that we are all struggling for cash. This prompted us to think about some way of sorting out a source of income without the need to wait for the occasional show to drop by. As a result we want to set up a bigcartel site which would feature original works on canvas from urban artists which would all fall under a certain price range. If you are interested in getting involved please message me
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after speaking with a couple of other artists, we have found that we are all struggling for cash. This prompted us to think about some way of sorting out a source of income without the need to wait for the occasional show to drop by. As a result we want to set up a bigcartel site which would feature original works on canvas from urban artists which would all fall under a certain price range. If you are interested in getting involved please message me
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calling all artists, by Happy Shopper on Jul 9, 2009 12:43:30 GMT 1, One of the things I've noticed about the scene at the moment is that print runs are too big and priced too high. I can see how it happened. Artists want the secondary market price that they see their work going for. Unfortunately this now means that no one's keen to buy prints!
Do a site of small run prints, priced ยฃ35 - ยฃ50, and you'll have more buyers. Just make it cheap enough for people to buy on a whim... and you'll get a more regular income.
Look at the Print Club show, and what Red Propeller are doing... not to mention the huge Gig Poster scene!
IMO!
One of the things I've noticed about the scene at the moment is that print runs are too big and priced too high. I can see how it happened. Artists want the secondary market price that they see their work going for. Unfortunately this now means that no one's keen to buy prints! Do a site of small run prints, priced ยฃ35 - ยฃ50, and you'll have more buyers. Just make it cheap enough for people to buy on a whim... and you'll get a more regular income. Look at the Print Club show, and what Red Propeller are doing... not to mention the huge Gig Poster scene! IMO!
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calling all artists, by thegreatarchitect on Jul 9, 2009 12:44:07 GMT 1, Thats an interesting idea
Thats an interesting idea
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calling all artists, by T*3 on Jul 9, 2009 12:46:58 GMT 1, i may be intersted. who else you got on board?
i may be intersted. who else you got on board?
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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 12:48:26 GMT 1, One of the things I've noticed about the scene at the moment is that print runs are too big and priced too high. I can see how it happened. Artists want the secondary market price that they see their work going for. Unfortunately this now means that no one's keen to buy prints! Do a site of small run prints, priced ยฃ35 - ยฃ50, and you'll have more buyers. Just make it cheap enough for people to buy on a whim... and you'll get a more regular income. Look at the Print Club show, and what Red Propeller are doing... not to mention the huge Gig Poster scene! IMO!
we were originally thinking that the site would offer works on canvas at a reasonable price, in a small edition as to help raise funds for future projects etc etc, but print releases are an option too...however we had seen it as a 'pictures on canvas' type thing but if we get to that stage-you have my word we will keep editions cheap and small ;D
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One of the things I've noticed about the scene at the moment is that print runs are too big and priced too high. I can see how it happened. Artists want the secondary market price that they see their work going for. Unfortunately this now means that no one's keen to buy prints! Do a site of small run prints, priced ยฃ35 - ยฃ50, and you'll have more buyers. Just make it cheap enough for people to buy on a whim... and you'll get a more regular income. Look at the Print Club show, and what Red Propeller are doing... not to mention the huge Gig Poster scene! IMO! we were originally thinking that the site would offer works on canvas at a reasonable price, in a small edition as to help raise funds for future projects etc etc, but print releases are an option too...however we had seen it as a 'pictures on canvas' type thing but if we get to that stage-you have my word we will keep editions cheap and small ;D H
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calling all artists, by Mish Mash on Jul 9, 2009 12:49:47 GMT 1, Sound like a good idea to me
Sound like a good idea to me
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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 12:52:07 GMT 1, i may be intersted. who else you got on board?
pm'd as nothing 100% yet....so dont want to say x and y is going to be on board before it happens!
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i may be intersted. who else you got on board? pm'd as nothing 100% yet....so dont want to say x and y is going to be on board before it happens! H
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calling all artists, by Dellboyy on Jul 9, 2009 12:52:20 GMT 1, Sounds like a promising idea!
Sounds like a promising idea!
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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 12:58:41 GMT 1, ross mate, thats pretty much what we're trying to achieve...a site which offers good pieces for a good price, which allows collectors a nice piece of art for a good price but also helping the artists raise funds for future projects!
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ross mate, thats pretty much what we're trying to achieve...a site which offers good pieces for a good price, which allows collectors a nice piece of art for a good price but also helping the artists raise funds for future projects!
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calling all artists, by schlomo on Jul 9, 2009 13:02:43 GMT 1, nice idea H, think it would work either way, prints or og's.
let me know details man.
nice idea H, think it would work either way, prints or og's.
let me know details man.
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calling all artists, by rosstierney on Jul 9, 2009 13:02:45 GMT 1, then again, art shouldn't be created with money in mind
if more time was spent producing quality work rather than average at best work just to try & make a quick buck, then maybe the 'artists' wouldn't be in the position they're in?
then again, art shouldn't be created with money in mind
if more time was spent producing quality work rather than average at best work just to try & make a quick buck, then maybe the 'artists' wouldn't be in the position they're in?
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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 13:07:59 GMT 1, then again, art shouldn't be created with money in mind if more time was spent producing quality work rather than average at best work just to try & make a quick buck, then maybe the 'artists' wouldn't be in the position they're in?
not...the point is a lot of artists make a fair bit of work they leave in the streets or give away, as a result they do not make a huge amount of money, obviously thats one example and we all are in a similar situation for different reasons, however...at the end of the day, most artists arent out to make a quick buck, I personally spend all money made from my work on more materials to produce more work, but am now at a point where I have not got so much money, and by the end of my next order i would be a very poor man!
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then again, art shouldn't be created with money in mind if more time was spent producing quality work rather than average at best work just to try & make a quick buck, then maybe the 'artists' wouldn't be in the position they're in? not...the point is a lot of artists make a fair bit of work they leave in the streets or give away, as a result they do not make a huge amount of money, obviously thats one example and we all are in a similar situation for different reasons, however...at the end of the day, most artists arent out to make a quick buck, I personally spend all money made from my work on more materials to produce more work, but am now at a point where I have not got so much money, and by the end of my next order i would be a very poor man! H
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calling all artists, by rosstierney on Jul 9, 2009 13:17:10 GMT 1, if more time was spent producing quality work...
the reason i don't jump on the 'artist' bandwagon is because i haven't had a good enough original idea
don't take it personal, but don't you think it's about time marilyn, hirst & superheroes were put to bed?
if quality, original work was created from the heart instead of the human calculator then i can only see security for the artist
if more time was spent producing quality work... the reason i don't jump on the 'artist' bandwagon is because i haven't had a good enough original idea don't take it personal, but don't you think it's about time marilyn, hirst & superheroes were put to bed? if quality, original work was created from the heart instead of the human calculator then i can only see security for the artist
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calling all artists, by Happy Shopper on Jul 9, 2009 13:22:38 GMT 1, I'm all for small editioned canvases. Good idea. I love Ben Frost's, although they're maybe a bit pricey these days.
stupidkrap.com/artists_benfrost.html
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calling all artists, by Deleted on Jul 9, 2009 13:25:02 GMT 1, then again, art shouldn't be created with money in mind if more time was spent producing quality work rather than average at best work just to try & make a quick buck, then maybe the 'artists' wouldn't be in the position they're in? Error on your Art history there Ross Many of the greatest artists from Michaelangelo through to Van Gogh , Picasso and his friends struggled greatly and all found themselves in similar positions to many artists today, are you saying then that they were trying only to make a quick buck?
then again, art shouldn't be created with money in mind if more time was spent producing quality work rather than average at best work just to try & make a quick buck, then maybe the 'artists' wouldn't be in the position they're in? Error on your Art history there Ross Many of the greatest artists from Michaelangelo through to Van Gogh , Picasso and his friends struggled greatly and all found themselves in similar positions to many artists today, are you saying then that they were trying only to make a quick buck?
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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 13:25:26 GMT 1, if more time was spent producing quality work... the reason i don't jump on the 'artist' bandwagon is because i haven't had a good enough original idea don't take it personal, but don't you think it's about time marilyn, hirst & superheroes were put to bed? if quality, original work was created from the heart instead of the human calculator then i can only see security for the artist
yes...but i havent got the funds
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if more time was spent producing quality work... the reason i don't jump on the 'artist' bandwagon is because i haven't had a good enough original idea don't take it personal, but don't you think it's about time marilyn, hirst & superheroes were put to bed? if quality, original work was created from the heart instead of the human calculator then i can only see security for the artist yes...but i havent got the funds H
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calling all artists, by junta on Jul 9, 2009 13:30:22 GMT 1, if more time was spent producing quality work... the reason i don't jump on the 'artist' bandwagon is because i haven't had a good enough original idea don't take it personal, but don't you think it's about time marilyn, hirst & superheroes were put to bed? if quality, original work was created from the heart instead of the human calculator then i can only see security for the artist
too right, theres lots of work out there i like, most of it from artists on this forum, which is why i rarely trawl other art websites anymore... but my god there is reams of stuff that is just banal and effortless... or so it seems to me. seriously not knocking anyone in particular, but sometimes they've gotta take a step back and think wtf am i doing with this piece surely. however maybe i just need to broaden my horizons more
if more time was spent producing quality work... the reason i don't jump on the 'artist' bandwagon is because i haven't had a good enough original idea don't take it personal, but don't you think it's about time marilyn, hirst & superheroes were put to bed? if quality, original work was created from the heart instead of the human calculator then i can only see security for the artist too right, theres lots of work out there i like, most of it from artists on this forum, which is why i rarely trawl other art websites anymore... but my god there is reams of stuff that is just banal and effortless... or so it seems to me. seriously not knocking anyone in particular, but sometimes they've gotta take a step back and think wtf am i doing with this piece surely. however maybe i just need to broaden my horizons more
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calling all artists, by rosstierney on Jul 9, 2009 13:31:06 GMT 1, then again, art shouldn't be created with money in mind if more time was spent producing quality work rather than average at best work just to try & make a quick buck, then maybe the 'artists' wouldn't be in the position they're in? Error on your Art history there Ross Many of the greatest artists from Michaelangelo through to Van Gogh , Picasso and his friends struggled greatly and all found themselves in similar positions to many artists today, are you saying then that they were trying only to make a quick buck?
oh my god, please tell me you're not comparing yourself to masters?
they didn't even have microsoft word to work on ffs
then again, art shouldn't be created with money in mind if more time was spent producing quality work rather than average at best work just to try & make a quick buck, then maybe the 'artists' wouldn't be in the position they're in? Error on your Art history there Ross Many of the greatest artists from Michaelangelo through to Van Gogh , Picasso and his friends struggled greatly and all found themselves in similar positions to many artists today, are you saying then that they were trying only to make a quick buck? oh my god, please tell me you're not comparing yourself to masters? they didn't even have microsoft word to work on ffs
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calling all artists, by Daniel Silk on Jul 9, 2009 13:33:46 GMT 1, I think its a good idea for Artists to have bigcartel shops in the early days before they really get going and into Galleries. Dont really see an advantage for having just one shop best to do your own things I would suggest.
I think its a good idea for Artists to have bigcartel shops in the early days before they really get going and into Galleries. Dont really see an advantage for having just one shop best to do your own things I would suggest.
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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 13:43:05 GMT 1, I think its a good idea for Artists to have bigcartel shops in the early days before they really get going and into Galleries. Dont really see an advantage for having just one shop best to do your own things I would suggest.
or silky, it makes sense to have a gallery run by the artists who are represented on it, and is done to give said artists the chance to get money that they would not receive from galleries...it would also be a good idea for this site to feature low prices to allow those who like the work to get it at a good price and fell they are helping the artist...but yeh dont really see how that would work...better just wait for a show once in a blue moon and then wait 5 months to get payment from that one yep
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I think its a good idea for Artists to have bigcartel shops in the early days before they really get going and into Galleries. Dont really see an advantage for having just one shop best to do your own things I would suggest. or silky, it makes sense to have a gallery run by the artists who are represented on it, and is done to give said artists the chance to get money that they would not receive from galleries...it would also be a good idea for this site to feature low prices to allow those who like the work to get it at a good price and fell they are helping the artist...but yeh dont really see how that would work...better just wait for a show once in a blue moon and then wait 5 months to get payment from that one yep H
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calling all artists, by Deleted on Jul 9, 2009 13:43:04 GMT 1, Error on your Art history there Ross Many of the greatest artists from Michaelangelo through to Van Gogh , Picasso and his friends struggled greatly and all found themselves in similar positions to many artists today, are you saying then that they were trying only to make a quick buck? oh my god, please tell me you're not comparing yourself to masters? they didn't even have microsoft word to work on ffs
Ross Why do you misinterpret my comment?. Where have i made any comparisons with myself ? I only stated that your comments are inaccurate and have no relevance with this thread Can i ask you Do you pray like this?
Error on your Art history there Ross Many of the greatest artists from Michaelangelo through to Van Gogh , Picasso and his friends struggled greatly and all found themselves in similar positions to many artists today, are you saying then that they were trying only to make a quick buck? oh my god, please tell me you're not comparing yourself to masters? they didn't even have microsoft word to work on ffs Ross Why do you misinterpret my comment?. Where have i made any comparisons with myself ? I only stated that your comments are inaccurate and have no relevance with this thread Can i ask you Do you pray like this?
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calling all artists, by doublehelix on Jul 9, 2009 13:52:12 GMT 1, I think the flaw in your plan is your expectation that your artwork will earn you money.
I think the flaw in your plan is your expectation that your artwork will earn you money.
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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 13:54:14 GMT 1, I think the flaw in your plan is your expectation that your artwork will earn you money.
great post...thanks for the constructive input mate
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I think the flaw in your plan is your expectation that your artwork will earn you money. great post...thanks for the constructive input mate H
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calling all artists, by junta on Jul 9, 2009 13:57:03 GMT 1, get down brick lane and columbia road on a sunday and sell your stuff on the street - you will have thousands passing by (just watch out for those 'rude' coppers!) - this is assuming that you are london based of course (and I realise that not all of you are)
thats not a bad idea, going for it old skool like that. these days people might be more willing to stop and look than walk by with their nose in the air... maybe. and also, the street is a proving ground, its raw supply and demand like work will sell if it's good. every city or large town has somewhere you could tout your wares, even here in cork theres a place (not that i use it im too shy )
get down brick lane and columbia road on a sunday and sell your stuff on the street - you will have thousands passing by (just watch out for those 'rude' coppers!) - this is assuming that you are london based of course (and I realise that not all of you are) thats not a bad idea, going for it old skool like that. these days people might be more willing to stop and look than walk by with their nose in the air... maybe. and also, the street is a proving ground, its raw supply and demand like work will sell if it's good. every city or large town has somewhere you could tout your wares, even here in cork theres a place (not that i use it im too shy )
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calling all artists, by hero on Jul 9, 2009 13:59:58 GMT 1, get down brick lane and columbia road on a sunday and sell your stuff on the street - you will have thousands passing by (just watch out for those 'rude' coppers!) - this is assuming that you are london based of course (and I realise that not all of you are)
it was an option that we considered but in the end, a well placed site will have a little more appeal, and if all goes well i will try and sort a show in the future...but one step at a time
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get down brick lane and columbia road on a sunday and sell your stuff on the street - you will have thousands passing by (just watch out for those 'rude' coppers!) - this is assuming that you are london based of course (and I realise that not all of you are) it was an option that we considered but in the end, a well placed site will have a little more appeal, and if all goes well i will try and sort a show in the future...but one step at a time H
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calling all artists, by stickitup on Jul 9, 2009 14:02:15 GMT 1, or of course there's lots of dissused shops at the moment crying out for shows to be put on in them, i remember there being an organisation set up which allowed artists to exhibit in dissused shops for free, as long as you painted the walls and made the shop look nice. All you then need is an attendant to come in and open up each day and the public to be arsed about walking in.
or of course there's lots of dissused shops at the moment crying out for shows to be put on in them, i remember there being an organisation set up which allowed artists to exhibit in dissused shops for free, as long as you painted the walls and made the shop look nice. All you then need is an attendant to come in and open up each day and the public to be arsed about walking in.
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calling all artists, by rosstierney on Jul 9, 2009 14:13:37 GMT 1, oh my god, please tell me you're not comparing yourself to masters? they didn't even have microsoft word to work on ffs Ross Why do you misinterpret my comment?. Where have i made any comparisons with myself ? I only stated that your comments are inaccurate and have no relevance with this thread Can i ask you Do you pray like this?
you jumped on my original comment so you obviously feel you're one of today's 'artists' in a similar position
please point out my irrelevant inaccuracies
the masters might have faced similiar problems but at least they had quality, original work to fall back on
i get the feeling you only pulled me up to try & be clever but i'm sorry to say, you failed
oh my god, please tell me you're not comparing yourself to masters? they didn't even have microsoft word to work on ffs Ross Why do you misinterpret my comment?. Where have i made any comparisons with myself ? I only stated that your comments are inaccurate and have no relevance with this thread Can i ask you Do you pray like this? you jumped on my original comment so you obviously feel you're one of today's 'artists' in a similar position please point out my irrelevant inaccuracies the masters might have faced similiar problems but at least they had quality, original work to fall back on i get the feeling you only pulled me up to try & be clever but i'm sorry to say, you failed
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calling all artists, by birdance on Jul 9, 2009 14:17:29 GMT 1, Ross
Is the Portrait of a Lost Soul from Docart supposed to be Liam Gallagher or just an uncanny liekness?
Ross
Is the Portrait of a Lost Soul from Docart supposed to be Liam Gallagher or just an uncanny liekness?
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calling all artists, by rosstierney on Jul 9, 2009 14:32:55 GMT 1, Ross Is the Portrait of a Lost Soul from Docart supposed to be Liam Gallagher or just an uncanny liekness?
Ross Is the Portrait of a Lost Soul from Docart supposed to be Liam Gallagher or just an uncanny liekness?
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