swamped
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by swamped on Feb 15, 2009 7:51:43 GMT 1, Beejoir- Blurry Mary
Beejoir- Blurry Mary
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klyde
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by klyde on Feb 15, 2009 8:05:23 GMT 1, Nick Walker - Rataouille I flipped this and after ebay fees and sending it to Germany etc I was ยฃ17 down! You live and learn. thanks for admitting that you are one of 'them' - outing yourself to a forum that hates 'them'
I dont see what the big deal is. Just being honest. Its not like I'm a serial flipper! You are kidding yourself if you think it doesnt go on by alot of members here on ocassion. About a quarter of all the rataouille prints were "flipped" so far. It appeared on BRP and someone gave the heads up on here. Within minutes it was sold out.
This site has a section where flipping happens on a mass scale under the guise of "your tades". The amount of Nolas, VLHs, Micallefs that have be sold due to "not making the wall" has been quite shocking.
I thought I could make a few quid quickly so I could get a proper frame (not an cheap ikea one) for a eelus I own and a Micallef remounted.
I learned if you are going to "flip" Nick Walker for some reason his series of paint splattered on famous land marks do ok, his other stuff isnt worth bothering!
Nick Walker - Rataouille I flipped this and after ebay fees and sending it to Germany etc I was ยฃ17 down! You live and learn. thanks for admitting that you are one of 'them' - outing yourself to a forum that hates 'them' I dont see what the big deal is. Just being honest. Its not like I'm a serial flipper! You are kidding yourself if you think it doesnt go on by alot of members here on ocassion. About a quarter of all the rataouille prints were "flipped" so far. It appeared on BRP and someone gave the heads up on here. Within minutes it was sold out. This site has a section where flipping happens on a mass scale under the guise of "your tades". The amount of Nolas, VLHs, Micallefs that have be sold due to "not making the wall" has been quite shocking. I thought I could make a few quid quickly so I could get a proper frame (not an cheap ikea one) for a eelus I own and a Micallef remounted. I learned if you are going to "flip" Nick Walker for some reason his series of paint splattered on famous land marks do ok, his other stuff isnt worth bothering!
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by veralynn on Feb 15, 2009 8:24:04 GMT 1,
It's 'you're' as in 'you are' thick.
Link'd is only 13, so he's got a mitigant.
It's 'you're' as in 'you are' thick. Link'd is only 13, so he's got a mitigant.
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by jh153 on Feb 15, 2009 10:36:22 GMT 1, Link'd is only 13, so he's got a mitigant.
mmmmuppett!
Link'd is only 13, so he's got a mitigant. mmmmuppett!
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darrenrapley
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by darrenrapley on Feb 15, 2009 10:55:22 GMT 1, NICK WALKER - EMPIRE STATE Think about it, the people bought it for about ยฃ300-450 something like that and it ended up selling on ebay for about ยฃ2500 smakaroonees, a lot of profit but you definately wont get me spending that kind of money on a print unless i can make a good grand later on. Now its going for much less than ยฃ2000.
I think it only fair that someone explains why you have had a couple of negative remarks thrown at you.
In my eyes, the definition of flipping is buying at source, watching it sell out and selling quickly to make a profit. Basically, buy quickly at a low price and sell quickly at high.
By buying TMA Empire at ยฃ2500 from a flipper and then selling is not flipping. You would only buy at that price do this if you really liked the print - the opposite to flipping you might say.
On another note - by saying "you definately wont get me spending that kind of money on a print unless i can make a good grand later on." will not endear you to people on here either. That will show people that you only collect art to sell later at profit.
Just thought that someone should explain this to you
NICK WALKER - EMPIRE STATE Think about it, the people bought it for about ยฃ300-450 something like that and it ended up selling on ebay for about ยฃ2500 smakaroonees, a lot of profit but you definately wont get me spending that kind of money on a print unless i can make a good grand later on. Now its going for much less than ยฃ2000. I think it only fair that someone explains why you have had a couple of negative remarks thrown at you. In my eyes, the definition of flipping is buying at source, watching it sell out and selling quickly to make a profit. Basically, buy quickly at a low price and sell quickly at high. By buying TMA Empire at ยฃ2500 from a flipper and then selling is not flipping. You would only buy at that price do this if you really liked the print - the opposite to flipping you might say. On another note - by saying "you definately wont get me spending that kind of money on a print unless i can make a good grand later on." will not endear you to people on here either. That will show people that you only collect art to sell later at profit. Just thought that someone should explain this to you
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by veralynn on Feb 15, 2009 11:44:23 GMT 1, Link'd is only 13, so he's got a mitigant. mmmmuppett!
Good constructive comments Artisistic, well done. You are clearly head and shoulders above Link'd in the intelligence stakes and are well placed to call him thick and me a 'mmmmuppett'.
Link'd is only 13, so he's got a mitigant. mmmmuppett! Good constructive comments Artisistic, well done. You are clearly head and shoulders above Link'd in the intelligence stakes and are well placed to call him thick and me a 'mmmmuppett'.
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curiousgeorge
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by curiousgeorge on Feb 15, 2009 11:50:13 GMT 1, Good constructive comments Artisistic, well done. You are clearly head and shoulders above Link'd in the intelligence stakes and are well placed to call him thick and me a 'mmmmuppett'.
I've met this dude before, i know kids of 8 with a better understanding of Art. These kids i mention, speak of what they can see, Artistics can see ยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃ say no more
Good constructive comments Artisistic, well done. You are clearly head and shoulders above Link'd in the intelligence stakes and are well placed to call him thick and me a 'mmmmuppett'. I've met this dude before, i know kids of 8 with a better understanding of Art. These kids i mention, speak of what they can see, Artistics can see ยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃ say no more
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linkd95
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by linkd95 on Feb 15, 2009 12:03:46 GMT 1, NICK WALKER - EMPIRE STATE Think about it, the people bought it for about ยฃ300-450 something like that and it ended up selling on ebay for about ยฃ2500 smakaroonees, a lot of profit but you definately wont get me spending that kind of money on a print unless i can make a good grand later on. Now its going for much less than ยฃ2000. I think it only fair that someone explains why you have had a couple of negative remarks thrown at you. In my eyes, the definition of flipping is buying at source, watching it sell out and selling quickly to make a profit. Basically, buy quickly at a low price and sell quickly at high. By buying TMA Empire at ยฃ2500 from a flipper and then selling is not flipping. You would only buy at that price do this if you really liked the print - the opposite to flipping you might say. On another note - by saying "you definately wont get me spending that kind of money on a print unless i can make a good grand later on." will not endear you to people on here either. That will show people that you only collect art to sell later at profit. Just thought that someone should explain this to you Oh i get it what your basically saying is flipping is not buying it off a flipper for ยฃ2500 and then selling it straight away, i know that i was just trying to say that people sold the TMA Empire State for ยฃ2500 when they bought it for ยฃ300-450 and that im sure nobody would buy a print that much unless they liked it quite a lot or they think they can make some more money on it later.
Thans anway LiNKd
NICK WALKER - EMPIRE STATE Think about it, the people bought it for about ยฃ300-450 something like that and it ended up selling on ebay for about ยฃ2500 smakaroonees, a lot of profit but you definately wont get me spending that kind of money on a print unless i can make a good grand later on. Now its going for much less than ยฃ2000. I think it only fair that someone explains why you have had a couple of negative remarks thrown at you. In my eyes, the definition of flipping is buying at source, watching it sell out and selling quickly to make a profit. Basically, buy quickly at a low price and sell quickly at high. By buying TMA Empire at ยฃ2500 from a flipper and then selling is not flipping. You would only buy at that price do this if you really liked the print - the opposite to flipping you might say. On another note - by saying "you definately wont get me spending that kind of money on a print unless i can make a good grand later on." will not endear you to people on here either. That will show people that you only collect art to sell later at profit. Just thought that someone should explain this to you Oh i get it what your basically saying is flipping is not buying it off a flipper for ยฃ2500 and then selling it straight away, i know that i was just trying to say that people sold the TMA Empire State for ยฃ2500 when they bought it for ยฃ300-450 and that im sure nobody would buy a print that much unless they liked it quite a lot or they think they can make some more money on it later. Thans anway LiNKd
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bmjt
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by bmjt on Feb 15, 2009 12:49:49 GMT 1, im sure nobody would buy a print that much unless they liked it quite a lot
That's exactly the point Link. Because of the high demand for the Empire State print, and limited supply of them, given that they sold out very quickly at source, people are willing/forced to pay that much, ie. ยฃ2500, to get hold of one.
im sure nobody would buy a print that much unless they liked it quite a lot That's exactly the point Link. Because of the high demand for the Empire State print, and limited supply of them, given that they sold out very quickly at source, people are willing/forced to pay that much, ie. ยฃ2500, to get hold of one.
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tab1
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by tab1 on Aug 15, 2016 14:59:52 GMT 1, All my pieces are s**t to flippers honesty is always the best policy ;D ;D
Times changes
All my pieces are s**t to flippers honesty is always the best policy ;D ;D Times changes
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nobokov
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by nobokov on Aug 15, 2016 15:47:12 GMT 1, All my pieces ares**t to flippers
It's gotta be a real pisser to see people trying to make money on your hard work...
Is this the thread where we identify who to tar and feather?
All my pieces ares**t to flippers It's gotta be a real pisser to see people trying to make money on your hard work... Is this the thread where we identify who to tar and feather?
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sufsean
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by sufsean on Aug 15, 2016 16:57:25 GMT 1, I would say anything Faile or Nick Walker is not WORTH attempting to "flip."
:::already regrets the lame pun::::
I would say anything Faile or Nick Walker is not WORTH attempting to "flip."
:::already regrets the lame pun::::
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 17:42:09 GMT 1, Nothing wrong with flipping, buying at one price and selling at a profit. It's commerce and supply and demand.
What is wrong is when prices are artificially inflated or hyped or fake bid up on online auction sites to entice others to pay over the real value for a print.
I don't think individuals who are doing it to make extra money are the problem. Rather organised groups and retailers.
At the same time can bad flipping ruin an artists credibility and career by pumping prices up and profiting for a short time before moving onto the next artist?
Nothing wrong with flipping, buying at one price and selling at a profit. It's commerce and supply and demand.
What is wrong is when prices are artificially inflated or hyped or fake bid up on online auction sites to entice others to pay over the real value for a print.
I don't think individuals who are doing it to make extra money are the problem. Rather organised groups and retailers.
At the same time can bad flipping ruin an artists credibility and career by pumping prices up and profiting for a short time before moving onto the next artist?
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annar50
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by annar50 on Aug 15, 2016 20:24:56 GMT 1, Some gallery's are far worst flippers than forum member just wanting to make a few quid
Some gallery's are far worst flippers than forum member just wanting to make a few quid
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by Coach on Aug 15, 2016 20:30:53 GMT 1, Some gallery's are far worst flippers than forum member just wanting to make a few quid
True. Noticed a recent Olympic print on one gallery website today.
Some gallery's are far worst flippers than forum member just wanting to make a few quid True. Noticed a recent Olympic print on one gallery website today.
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by Sliding on the Walls on Aug 15, 2016 20:42:40 GMT 1, I once bought two tickets for Reading Festival straight after going one year. It was early bird only available for people who went. I bought them solely for the purpose of selling on the next year closer to the time because I'd had to buy my tickets for a far inflated price on ebay and I thought I could do that too.... Then as the year progressed I completely forgot i'd bought them, and when the main tickets went on general release I bought two (for me and my girlfriend). We went early and it wasn't until I came home from the festival and found the original two tickets for said festival on my doorstep that I remembered I'd bought them!
I'm glad this happened to me.
I once bought two tickets for Reading Festival straight after going one year. It was early bird only available for people who went. I bought them solely for the purpose of selling on the next year closer to the time because I'd had to buy my tickets for a far inflated price on ebay and I thought I could do that too.... Then as the year progressed I completely forgot i'd bought them, and when the main tickets went on general release I bought two (for me and my girlfriend). We went early and it wasn't until I came home from the festival and found the original two tickets for said festival on my doorstep that I remembered I'd bought them!
I'm glad this happened to me.
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by oxfordwelshchap on Aug 16, 2016 20:57:07 GMT 1, For new collectors flippers are simply wankers who prey on others in my eyes.
For new collectors flippers are simply wankers who prey on others in my eyes.
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 21:12:12 GMT 1, For new collectors flippers are simply wankers who prey on others in my eyes.
For old collectors flippers are simply wankers.
Actually they provide a service that many choose to use and many do not.
For new collectors flippers are simply wankers who prey on others in my eyes. For old collectors flippers are simply wankers. Actually they provide a service that many choose to use and many do not.
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by oxfordwelshchap on Aug 16, 2016 21:19:52 GMT 1, For new collectors flippers are simply wankers who prey on others in my eyes. For old collectors flippers are simply wankers. Actually they provide a service that many choose to use and many do not. What service? How is preventing true collectors from acquiring a piece from an artist for their own selfish gain and profit a service? Sorry I don't get that. Having been unable to get a few recent releases and seeing them inflated on eBay 10 secs later by people with 'prints in hand' really rattled my cage. Not a rich chap despite living in Oxford lol.
For new collectors flippers are simply wankers who prey on others in my eyes. For old collectors flippers are simply wankers. Actually they provide a service that many choose to use and many do not. What service? How is preventing true collectors from acquiring a piece from an artist for their own selfish gain and profit a service? Sorry I don't get that. Having been unable to get a few recent releases and seeing them inflated on eBay 10 secs later by people with 'prints in hand' really rattled my cage. Not a rich chap despite living in Oxford lol.
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 21:32:55 GMT 1, They sell prints to people who dont have them but want them and are prepared to pay the asking price for them.
Plenty around these parts provide said service.
They sell prints to people who dont have them but want them and are prepared to pay the asking price for them.
Plenty around these parts provide said service.
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mawk
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by mawk on Aug 16, 2016 21:37:09 GMT 1, Some gallery's are far worst flippers than forum member just wanting to make a few quid True. Noticed a recent Olympic print on one gallery website today. Was this a certain David Shrigley print by any chance?
Some gallery's are far worst flippers than forum member just wanting to make a few quid True. Noticed a recent Olympic print on one gallery website today. Was this a certain David Shrigley print by any chance?
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by Coach on Aug 16, 2016 22:20:27 GMT 1, For old collectors flippers are simply wankers. Actually they provide a service that many choose to use and many do not. What service? How is preventing true collectors from acquiring a piece from an artist for their own selfish gain and profit a service? Sorry I don't get that. Having been unable to get a few recent releases and seeing them inflated on eBay 10 secs later by people with 'prints in hand' really rattled my cage. Not a rich chap despite living in Oxford lol.
Parasites
For old collectors flippers are simply wankers. Actually they provide a service that many choose to use and many do not. What service? How is preventing true collectors from acquiring a piece from an artist for their own selfish gain and profit a service? Sorry I don't get that. Having been unable to get a few recent releases and seeing them inflated on eBay 10 secs later by people with 'prints in hand' really rattled my cage. Not a rich chap despite living in Oxford lol. Parasites
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mla
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by mla on Aug 16, 2016 22:31:24 GMT 1, For any given release where a print actual flips (i.e. demand outstrips supply), there aren't enough prints to go around, even if they some how only went to TrueFansโข. In that scenario, where one is dead set on acquiring the print, which of the following two individuals do you think will provide the more favourable price?
(a) An individual who loves the image and purchased it for their permanent collection (b) An individual who has zero attachment to the image and wants to make a few bucks
In some cases, they even camp out like morons for what equates to low level hourly pay.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
For any given release where a print actual flips (i.e. demand outstrips supply), there aren't enough prints to go around, even if they some how only went to TrueFansโข. In that scenario, where one is dead set on acquiring the print, which of the following two individuals do you think will provide the more favourable price?
(a) An individual who loves the image and purchased it for their permanent collection (b) An individual who has zero attachment to the image and wants to make a few bucks
In some cases, they even camp out like morons for what equates to low level hourly pay.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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.dappy
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by .dappy on Aug 16, 2016 22:39:48 GMT 1, What service? How is preventing true collectors from acquiring a piece from an artist for their own selfish gain and profit a service? Sorry I don't get that. Having been unable to get a few recent releases and seeing them inflated on eBay 10 secs later by people with 'prints in hand' really rattled my cage. Not a rich chap despite living in Oxford lol. Parasites ... yeah! - I hate the welsh aswell
What service? How is preventing true collectors from acquiring a piece from an artist for their own selfish gain and profit a service? Sorry I don't get that. Having been unable to get a few recent releases and seeing them inflated on eBay 10 secs later by people with 'prints in hand' really rattled my cage. Not a rich chap despite living in Oxford lol. Parasites ... yeah! - I hate the welsh aswell
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acme
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by acme on Aug 16, 2016 22:49:08 GMT 1, I overslept the release of Antony Micallef - Minotaur, thanks to some flipper I bought mine at 500$ and saved some money.
Got it framed right away, great print.
I overslept the release of Antony Micallef - Minotaur, thanks to some flipper I bought mine at 500$ and saved some money.
Got it framed right away, great print.
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charliec2701
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by charliec2701 on Aug 16, 2016 22:49:17 GMT 1, At least flippers are honest about what they're doing. All you so called purists out there who claim to only sell albeit at a profit to further their collection are simply dishonest flippers !!
Don't rubber neck if you don't want to get upset !! Keep moving, nothing to see !!! Mind your business and pay what you pay.
At least flippers are honest about what they're doing. All you so called purists out there who claim to only sell albeit at a profit to further their collection are simply dishonest flippers !!
Don't rubber neck if you don't want to get upset !! Keep moving, nothing to see !!! Mind your business and pay what you pay.
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by oxfordwelshchap on Aug 16, 2016 22:55:53 GMT 1, What service? How is preventing true collectors from acquiring a piece from an artist for their own selfish gain and profit a service? Sorry I don't get that. Having been unable to get a few recent releases and seeing them inflated on eBay 10 secs later by people with 'prints in hand' really rattled my cage. Not a rich chap despite living in Oxford lol. Parasites As always coach I agree with everything you post!
What service? How is preventing true collectors from acquiring a piece from an artist for their own selfish gain and profit a service? Sorry I don't get that. Having been unable to get a few recent releases and seeing them inflated on eBay 10 secs later by people with 'prints in hand' really rattled my cage. Not a rich chap despite living in Oxford lol. Parasites As always coach I agree with everything you post!
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by oxfordwelshchap on Aug 16, 2016 22:56:53 GMT 1, ... yeah! - I hate the welsh aswell Ah fuck off
... yeah! - I hate the welsh aswell Ah fuck off
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by oxfordwelshchap on Aug 16, 2016 22:59:32 GMT 1, At least flippers are honest about what they're doing. All you so called purists out there who claim to only sell albeit at a profit to further their collection are simply dishonest flippers !! Don't rubber neck if you don't want to get upset !! Keep moving, nothing to see !!! Mind your business and pay what you pay. Nothing honest about flippers simply money grabbing shits.
At least flippers are honest about what they're doing. All you so called purists out there who claim to only sell albeit at a profit to further their collection are simply dishonest flippers !! Don't rubber neck if you don't want to get upset !! Keep moving, nothing to see !!! Mind your business and pay what you pay. Nothing honest about flippers simply money grabbing shits.
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Worst Flipper Purchase , by Coach on Aug 16, 2016 23:05:43 GMT 1, At least flippers are honest about what they're doing. All you so called purists out there who claim to only sell albeit at a profit to further their collection are simply dishonest flippers !! Don't rubber neck if you don't want to get upset !! Keep moving, nothing to see !!! Mind your business and pay what you pay.
I agree that flipping to further one's collection is no different nor any better.
At least flippers are honest about what they're doing. All you so called purists out there who claim to only sell albeit at a profit to further their collection are simply dishonest flippers !! Don't rubber neck if you don't want to get upset !! Keep moving, nothing to see !!! Mind your business and pay what you pay. I agree that flipping to further one's collection is no different nor any better.
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