budoukiba
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by budoukiba on Apr 14, 2007 21:27:20 GMT 1, ** Drunken Rant Begin**
I think some people are a bit full of themselves and think they know more than others and therefore their opinion is more valid. Dont insult peoples intelligence just because you have time to make a long post to show off about stuff you think you know. OK, some people have a knowledge of art history, some dont, but the art we are talking about here is mainly street art, and the majority of people here love the art for what it is and not the history of art and where it MAY have came from! I dont have a lot of knowledge of art history and for the short time i have been on this forum i have learnt a great deal and i very much appreciate that, but i dont like people who argue against other peoples posts just to try and make themselves appear more intelligent in the 'art' field or whatever. This place is about a love for art and not who knows more, and dont assume you know more than others.
**drunken rant over**
please feel free to removemy respect points
** Drunken Rant Begin**
I think some people are a bit full of themselves and think they know more than others and therefore their opinion is more valid. Dont insult peoples intelligence just because you have time to make a long post to show off about stuff you think you know. OK, some people have a knowledge of art history, some dont, but the art we are talking about here is mainly street art, and the majority of people here love the art for what it is and not the history of art and where it MAY have came from! I dont have a lot of knowledge of art history and for the short time i have been on this forum i have learnt a great deal and i very much appreciate that, but i dont like people who argue against other peoples posts just to try and make themselves appear more intelligent in the 'art' field or whatever. This place is about a love for art and not who knows more, and dont assume you know more than others.
**drunken rant over**
please feel free to removemy respect points
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by corblimeylimey on Apr 14, 2007 21:42:50 GMT 1, ** Drunken Rant Begin** I think some people are a bit full of themselves and think they know more than others and therefore their opinion is more valid. Dont insult peoples intelligence just because you have time to make a long post to show off about stuff you think you know. OK, some people have a knowledge of art history, some dont, but the art we are talking about here is mainly street art, and the majority of people here love the art for what it is and not the history of art and where it MAY have came from! I dont have a lot of knowledge of art history and for the short time i have been on this forum i have learnt a great deal and i very much appreciate that, but i dont like people you argue against other peoples posts just to try and make themselves appear more intelligent in the 'art' field or whatever. This place is about a love for art and not who knows more, and dont assume you know more than others. **drunken rant over** please feel free to removemy respect points
I'm with you.
The really highbrow arty farty talk (ร la Brian Sewell) has plenty of places to go in the traditional art circles, this is street. Keep it real yo ;D ;D ;D
** Drunken Rant Begin** I think some people are a bit full of themselves and think they know more than others and therefore their opinion is more valid. Dont insult peoples intelligence just because you have time to make a long post to show off about stuff you think you know. OK, some people have a knowledge of art history, some dont, but the art we are talking about here is mainly street art, and the majority of people here love the art for what it is and not the history of art and where it MAY have came from! I dont have a lot of knowledge of art history and for the short time i have been on this forum i have learnt a great deal and i very much appreciate that, but i dont like people you argue against other peoples posts just to try and make themselves appear more intelligent in the 'art' field or whatever. This place is about a love for art and not who knows more, and dont assume you know more than others. **drunken rant over** please feel free to removemy respect points I'm with you. The really highbrow arty farty talk (ร la Brian Sewell) has plenty of places to go in the traditional art circles, this is street. Keep it real yo ;D ;D ;D |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by tadghostal on Apr 14, 2007 21:55:46 GMT 1, Wow. OK, f**k me off for expecting that somebody might actually read a post before they go off on it.
Wow. OK, f**k me off for expecting that somebody might actually read a post before they go off on it.
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by corblimeylimey on Apr 14, 2007 22:04:49 GMT 1, I did a picture search for arguing on the internet too and on page 2 came up with this
I did a picture search for arguing on the internet too and on page 2 came up with this |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by tadghostal on Apr 14, 2007 22:20:53 GMT 1, ha ha! That's awesome.
ha ha! That's awesome.
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Strange Al
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by Strange Al on Apr 14, 2007 23:00:44 GMT 1, The recent posts of this thread have been most amusing! As I posted earlier today, if a piece of art evokes emotion (positive or negative) and encourages people to investigate issues then it's a winner in my eyes. And, there's certainly been a fair amount of emotion displayed in recent posts on this one. 
I completely agree that this is a fan forum for a street artist. Though, I don't think that precludes "high brow" discussion of Banksy's works. There's plenty of room for everyone on here.
My feeling is that the majority of the posts on this forum are devoid of any discussion of art - whether high brow or street. I'd personally much rather read Thwaites and Tag having a bit of a verbal ding dong, than read another thread about the value of Banksy's on ebay, flippers or the problems with POW. Though as I'm learning, each to their own.
I agree that there's no need for arrogance and people getting bitchy and personal. Though think disagreement is a healthy thing for the forum. After all, without disagreement the discussions would be pretty damn boring.
The recent posts of this thread have been most amusing! As I posted earlier today, if a piece of art evokes emotion (positive or negative) and encourages people to investigate issues then it's a winner in my eyes. And, there's certainly been a fair amount of emotion displayed in recent posts on this one. I completely agree that this is a fan forum for a street artist. Though, I don't think that precludes "high brow" discussion of Banksy's works. There's plenty of room for everyone on here. My feeling is that the majority of the posts on this forum are devoid of any discussion of art - whether high brow or street. I'd personally much rather read Thwaites and Tag having a bit of a verbal ding dong, than read another thread about the value of Banksy's on ebay, flippers or the problems with POW. Though as I'm learning, each to their own. I agree that there's no need for arrogance and people getting bitchy and personal. Though think disagreement is a healthy thing for the forum. After all, without disagreement the discussions would be pretty damn boring. |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by ร
gent รacardi on Apr 14, 2007 23:13:32 GMT 1, I agree that there's no need for arrogance and people getting b**chy and personal. Though think disagreement is a healthy thing for the forum. After all, without disagreement the discussions would be pretty damn boring.
I agree that disagreements fuel discussion, but it is only healthy in a forum environment when it's presented with respect, impartiality, and tact. There's plenty of room for thoughtful discourse here for any topic under the sun really, just choose your words very wisely, y'know what I mean?
Just play nice, dammit! 
I agree that there's no need for arrogance and people getting b**chy and personal. Though think disagreement is a healthy thing for the forum. After all, without disagreement the discussions would be pretty damn boring. I agree that disagreements fuel discussion, but it is only healthy in a forum environment when it's presented with respect, impartiality, and tact. There's plenty of room for thoughtful discourse here for any topic under the sun really, just choose your words very wisely, y'know what I mean? Just play nice, dammit! |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by finsburyparkranger on Apr 15, 2007 0:51:57 GMT 1, Its funny how these comments about 'Greek art' and 'subjectivity' could easily be inside speech bubbles coming from the 'morons' in the print .
;D
Its funny how these comments about 'Greek art' and 'subjectivity' could easily be inside speech bubbles coming from the 'morons' in the print .
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Strange Al
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by Strange Al on Apr 15, 2007 9:39:11 GMT 1, finsbury - agreed they could, but given that we're all to a greater or lesser extent the morons depicted in the print, so could anything else that's posted on this forum.
finsbury - agreed they could, but given that we're all to a greater or lesser extent the morons depicted in the print, so could anything else that's posted on this forum. |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by finsburyparkranger on Apr 15, 2007 10:11:48 GMT 1, finsbury - agreed they could, but given that we're all to a greater or lesser extent the morons depicted in the print, so could anything else that's posted on this forum.
Yeah, fair play, i too could be immortalized looking like i right nob discussing sepia and its designed ironic effect. Its a shame a few speech bubbles were not used actually.
finsbury - agreed they could, but given that we're all to a greater or lesser extent the morons depicted in the print, so could anything else that's posted on this forum. Yeah, fair play, i too could be immortalized looking like i right nob discussing sepia and its designed ironic effect. Its a shame a few speech bubbles were not used actually. |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by corblimeylimey on Apr 15, 2007 14:47:13 GMT 1, The recent posts of this thread have been most amusing! As I posted earlier today, if a piece of art evokes emotion (positive or negative) and encourages people to investigate issues then it's a winner in my eyes. And, there's certainly been a fair amount of emotion displayed in recent posts on this one. I completely agree that this is a fan forum for a street artist. Though, I don't think that precludes "high brow" discussion of Banksy's works. There's plenty of room for everyone on here. My feeling is that the majority of the posts on this forum are devoid of any discussion of art - whether high brow or street. I'd personally much rather read Thwaites and Tag having a bit of a verbal ding dong, than read another thread about the value of Banksy's on ebay, flippers or the problems with POW. Though as I'm learning, each to their own. I agree that there's no need for arrogance and people getting b**chy and personal. Though think disagreement is a healthy thing for the forum. After all, without disagreement the discussions would be pretty damn boring.
I completely disagree, does that make you happy now? ;D ;D ;D
The recent posts of this thread have been most amusing! As I posted earlier today, if a piece of art evokes emotion (positive or negative) and encourages people to investigate issues then it's a winner in my eyes. And, there's certainly been a fair amount of emotion displayed in recent posts on this one. I completely agree that this is a fan forum for a street artist. Though, I don't think that precludes "high brow" discussion of Banksy's works. There's plenty of room for everyone on here. My feeling is that the majority of the posts on this forum are devoid of any discussion of art - whether high brow or street. I'd personally much rather read Thwaites and Tag having a bit of a verbal ding dong, than read another thread about the value of Banksy's on ebay, flippers or the problems with POW. Though as I'm learning, each to their own. I agree that there's no need for arrogance and people getting b**chy and personal. Though think disagreement is a healthy thing for the forum. After all, without disagreement the discussions would be pretty damn boring. I completely disagree, does that make you happy now? ;D ;D ;D |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by tomhills1 on Apr 15, 2007 14:54:18 GMT 1, well, this thread is steeped in irony. ;D
to paraphrase a good friend of mine: i went to read yet another thread about guesstimating print values and a sensible discussion broke out. ;D well nearly.
i do think there is a place for those that have an extensive knowledge to be able to share that with the rest of us (that don't). i do however feel that any knowledge should be presented in a way that the majority (no offence) can understand and not feel they are being patronised. if you have an extensive knowledge of anything in life, the best way to convey that is in simplistic terms to include the majority. that should then evoke a sensible discussion where the finer points and subtleties can be explored.
this whole situation of trying to belittle people with "superiour" knowledge serves only to alienate people. like i said, i'm all for an in-depth debate but just because someone else's opinion doesn't match your's, doesn't mean it's any less valid. without it there would be no discussion, we'd all be sitting here going "yeah, me too", "i agree", etc.
yes, the whole art spectrum is subjective, even if we are judging things by todays standards, tomorrow it could take on (and lose) a whole new meaning. there is no right or wrong, just different interpretations of what we see.
i for one would like to see more intellectual masturbating, but not at the expense of the mostly friendly and respectful environment that should surely serve to include everyone, regardless of sex, race, age, religion, wealth etc.
maybe take the time to say what you want, whilst thinking about how it will be heard before you post. that way we can maybe explore deeper thinking without upsetting anyone along the way?
well, this thread is steeped in irony. ;D
to paraphrase a good friend of mine: i went to read yet another thread about guesstimating print values and a sensible discussion broke out. ;D well nearly.
i do think there is a place for those that have an extensive knowledge to be able to share that with the rest of us (that don't). i do however feel that any knowledge should be presented in a way that the majority (no offence) can understand and not feel they are being patronised. if you have an extensive knowledge of anything in life, the best way to convey that is in simplistic terms to include the majority. that should then evoke a sensible discussion where the finer points and subtleties can be explored.
this whole situation of trying to belittle people with "superiour" knowledge serves only to alienate people. like i said, i'm all for an in-depth debate but just because someone else's opinion doesn't match your's, doesn't mean it's any less valid. without it there would be no discussion, we'd all be sitting here going "yeah, me too", "i agree", etc.
yes, the whole art spectrum is subjective, even if we are judging things by todays standards, tomorrow it could take on (and lose) a whole new meaning. there is no right or wrong, just different interpretations of what we see.
i for one would like to see more intellectual masturbating, but not at the expense of the mostly friendly and respectful environment that should surely serve to include everyone, regardless of sex, race, age, religion, wealth etc.
maybe take the time to say what you want, whilst thinking about how it will be heard before you post. that way we can maybe explore deeper thinking without upsetting anyone along the way?
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by tomhills1 on Apr 15, 2007 14:59:12 GMT 1, maybe take the time to say what you want, whilst thinking about how it will be heard before you post.
i for one would like to see more intellectual masturbating.
maybe take the time to say what you want, whilst thinking about how it will be heard before you post. i for one would like to see more intellectual masturbating. |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by corblimeylimey on Apr 15, 2007 15:03:12 GMT 1, well, this thread is steeped in irony. ;D to paraphrase a good friend of mine: i went to read yet another thread about guesstimating print values and a sensible discussion broke out. ;D well nearly. i do think there is a place for those that have an extensive knowledge to be able to share that with the rest of us (that don't). i do however feel that any knowledge should be presented in a way that the majority (no offence) can understand and not feel they are being patronised. if you have an extensive knowledge of anything in life, the best way to convey that is in simplistic terms to include the majority. that should then evoke a sensible discussion where the finer points and subtleties can be explored. this whole situation of trying to belittle people with "superiour" knowledge serves only to alienate people. like i said, i'm all for an in-depth debate but just because someone else's opinion doesn't match your's, doesn't mean it's any less valid. without it there would be no discussion, we'd all be sitting here going "yeah, me too", "i agree", etc. yes, the whole art spectrum is subjective, even if we are judging things by todays standards, tomorrow it could take on (and lose) a whole new meaning. there is no right or wrong, just different interpretations of what we see. i for one would like to see more intellectual masturbating, but not at the expense of the mostly friendly and respectful environment that should surely serve to include everyone, regardless of sex, race, age, religion, wealth etc. maybe take the time to say what you want, whilst thinking about how it will be heard before you post. that way we can maybe explore deeper thinking without upsetting anyone along the way?
Yeah, me too, I agree, etc ;D ;D ;D
well, this thread is steeped in irony. ;D to paraphrase a good friend of mine: i went to read yet another thread about guesstimating print values and a sensible discussion broke out. ;D well nearly. i do think there is a place for those that have an extensive knowledge to be able to share that with the rest of us (that don't). i do however feel that any knowledge should be presented in a way that the majority (no offence) can understand and not feel they are being patronised. if you have an extensive knowledge of anything in life, the best way to convey that is in simplistic terms to include the majority. that should then evoke a sensible discussion where the finer points and subtleties can be explored. this whole situation of trying to belittle people with "superiour" knowledge serves only to alienate people. like i said, i'm all for an in-depth debate but just because someone else's opinion doesn't match your's, doesn't mean it's any less valid. without it there would be no discussion, we'd all be sitting here going "yeah, me too", "i agree", etc. yes, the whole art spectrum is subjective, even if we are judging things by todays standards, tomorrow it could take on (and lose) a whole new meaning. there is no right or wrong, just different interpretations of what we see. i for one would like to see more intellectual masturbating, but not at the expense of the mostly friendly and respectful environment that should surely serve to include everyone, regardless of sex, race, age, religion, wealth etc. maybe take the time to say what you want, whilst thinking about how it will be heard before you post. that way we can maybe explore deeper thinking without upsetting anyone along the way? Yeah, me too, I agree, etc ;D ;D ;D |
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budoukiba
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by budoukiba on Apr 15, 2007 15:08:08 GMT 1, well, this thread is steeped in irony. ;D to paraphrase a good friend of mine: i went to read yet another thread about guesstimating print values and a sensible discussion broke out. ;D well nearly. i do think there is a place for those that have an extensive knowledge to be able to share that with the rest of us (that don't). i do however feel that any knowledge should be presented in a way that the majority (no offence) can understand and not feel they are being patronised. if you have an extensive knowledge of anything in life, the best way to convey that is in simplistic terms to include the majority. that should then evoke a sensible discussion where the finer points and subtleties can be explored. this whole situation of trying to belittle people with "superiour" knowledge serves only to alienate people. like i said, i'm all for an in-depth debate but just because someone else's opinion doesn't match your's, doesn't mean it's any less valid. without it there would be no discussion, we'd all be sitting here going "yeah, me too", "i agree", etc. yes, the whole art spectrum is subjective, even if we are judging things by todays standards, tomorrow it could take on (and lose) a whole new meaning. there is no right or wrong, just different interpretations of what we see. i for one would like to see more intellectual masturbating, but not at the expense of the mostly friendly and respectful environment that should surely serve to include everyone, regardless of sex, race, age, religion, wealth etc. maybe take the time to say what you want, whilst thinking about how it will be heard before you post. that way we can maybe explore deeper thinking without upsetting anyone along the way?
Spot on!!
well, this thread is steeped in irony. ;D to paraphrase a good friend of mine: i went to read yet another thread about guesstimating print values and a sensible discussion broke out. ;D well nearly. i do think there is a place for those that have an extensive knowledge to be able to share that with the rest of us (that don't). i do however feel that any knowledge should be presented in a way that the majority (no offence) can understand and not feel they are being patronised. if you have an extensive knowledge of anything in life, the best way to convey that is in simplistic terms to include the majority. that should then evoke a sensible discussion where the finer points and subtleties can be explored. this whole situation of trying to belittle people with "superiour" knowledge serves only to alienate people. like i said, i'm all for an in-depth debate but just because someone else's opinion doesn't match your's, doesn't mean it's any less valid. without it there would be no discussion, we'd all be sitting here going "yeah, me too", "i agree", etc. yes, the whole art spectrum is subjective, even if we are judging things by todays standards, tomorrow it could take on (and lose) a whole new meaning. there is no right or wrong, just different interpretations of what we see. i for one would like to see more intellectual masturbating, but not at the expense of the mostly friendly and respectful environment that should surely serve to include everyone, regardless of sex, race, age, religion, wealth etc. maybe take the time to say what you want, whilst thinking about how it will be heard before you post. that way we can maybe explore deeper thinking without upsetting anyone along the way? Spot on!! |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by Strange Al on Apr 15, 2007 17:08:41 GMT 1, I completely disagree, does that make you happy now? ;D ;D ;D
;D
I completely disagree, does that make you happy now? ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by beejoir1 on Apr 15, 2007 17:12:18 GMT 1, I have NO idea what your all rattling on about! Anyone for a cup of tea?
I have NO idea what your all rattling on about! Anyone for a cup of tea?
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by corblimeylimey on Apr 15, 2007 17:14:30 GMT 1, I have NO idea what your all rattling on about! Anyone for a cup of tea?
Custard creams anyone? ;D
I have NO idea what your all rattling on about! Anyone for a cup of tea? Custard creams anyone? ;D |
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by finsburyparkranger on Apr 15, 2007 17:21:52 GMT 1, You know Banksy has got to be one very original artist. I'm not sure I can think of many others artist who can create so much debate. Personally I think its great hearing different views and I love it when when people have a bit of ideological fisticuffs as long as everyone shakes hands afterwards.
Got to admit, more I've thought about Morons, More I like it.... especially the sepia edition. ;D
*mumbles about not going camping with girlfriend ever again*
You know Banksy has got to be one very original artist. I'm not sure I can think of many others artist who can create so much debate. Personally I think its great hearing different views and I love it when when people have a bit of ideological fisticuffs as long as everyone shakes hands afterwards.
Got to admit, more I've thought about Morons, More I like it.... especially the sepia edition. ;D
*mumbles about not going camping with girlfriend ever again*
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SELLING ESTIMATES FOF MORONS , by tomhills1 on Apr 15, 2007 17:25:34 GMT 1, mind the cheese: the sharing of information/knowledge, should be inclusive not exclusive.
mind the cheese: the sharing of information/knowledge, should be inclusive not exclusive. |
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