frank11
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September 2006
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Banksy Release This Year?, by frank11 on Oct 29, 2008 12:08:50 GMT 1, Fair enough, however a weekend trip to NY is not quite the same as a trip to Bethlehem. I would have loved to have gone, but had nothing but very scary storys from a few Israeli friends, so was scared off.
I know that post 9/11 security at US airports got alot tighter, but it still doesn't compare to an Israeli border patrol...
Fair enough, however a weekend trip to NY is not quite the same as a trip to Bethlehem. I would have loved to have gone, but had nothing but very scary storys from a few Israeli friends, so was scared off.
I know that post 9/11 security at US airports got alot tighter, but it still doesn't compare to an Israeli border patrol...
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silvermyn
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Banksy Release This Year?, by silvermyn on Oct 29, 2008 12:11:16 GMT 1, or went to santas ghetto in bethlehem  actually that reminds me - i need to post my pics of my trip to NYC said it before, but bugger all people went to it, before all the talk on the board was where it would be, and everyone was talking about new york, and people googling hotels and flights, and other locations it could be well bethlehem was nearer and cheaper, but from how long the prints took to sell out, uve got to say there was less than 200 people that went over
That may also be down to the fact that the region is not perceived to be particularly safe for Western tourists looking for limited edition art prints.
or went to santas ghetto in bethlehem actually that reminds me - i need to post my pics of my trip to NYC said it before, but bugger all people went to it, before all the talk on the board was where it would be, and everyone was talking about new york, and people googling hotels and flights, and other locations it could be well bethlehem was nearer and cheaper, but from how long the prints took to sell out, uve got to say there was less than 200 people that went over That may also be down to the fact that the region is not perceived to be particularly safe for Western tourists looking for limited edition art prints. |
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silvermyn
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Banksy Release This Year?, by silvermyn on Oct 29, 2008 12:19:01 GMT 1, Oh yeah! I think 5,000 at ยฃ100 each would sell out easy. Loads of people around that have only just started to find out about Banksy and would jump at the chance to get their hand on a piece. I dont think 10,000 would sell out instantly  but would still be gone within a few weeks.
Can you imagine how p155ed off you'd get writing 1/10,000, 2/10,000, 3/10,000... in the corner of each print in pencil?! I recon after 3 days of that 5hit you'd be ready to top yourself and would still only have got to 459/10,000 by the time you abandoned all hope of ever getting the project finished ;D
The 750 signed edition followed by the 500 signed addition last year was quite an achievement IMO.
Oh yeah! I think 5,000 at ยฃ100 each would sell out easy. Loads of people around that have only just started to find out about Banksy and would jump at the chance to get their hand on a piece. I dont think 10,000 would sell out instantly but would still be gone within a few weeks. Can you imagine how p155ed off you'd get writing 1/10,000, 2/10,000, 3/10,000... in the corner of each print in pencil?! I recon after 3 days of that 5hit you'd be ready to top yourself and would still only have got to 459/10,000 by the time you abandoned all hope of ever getting the project finished ;D The 750 signed edition followed by the 500 signed addition last year was quite an achievement IMO. |
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Banksy Release This Year?, by graeme501 on Oct 29, 2008 12:34:54 GMT 1, pish - bethlehem was perfectly safe, friendly locals, great hospitality, i felt safer there than i would have in NYC
pish - bethlehem was perfectly safe, friendly locals, great hospitality, i felt safer there than i would have in NYC
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darrenrapley
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June 2008
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Banksy Release This Year?, by darrenrapley on Oct 29, 2008 12:37:34 GMT 1, I have to sign about 300 Christmas cards each year from work Bobby is right - it is the worst job ever.
My signature at the start and at the end are totally different.
I have to sign about 300 Christmas cards each year from work Bobby is right - it is the worst job ever.
My signature at the start and at the end are totally different.
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dmandpenfold
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December 2006
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Banksy Release This Year?, by dmandpenfold on Oct 29, 2008 12:37:34 GMT 1, pish - bethlehem was perfectly safe, friendly locals, great hospitality, i felt safer there than i would have in NYC
or Glasgow on a Friday night for that matter graeme
pish - bethlehem was perfectly safe, friendly locals, great hospitality, i felt safer there than i would have in NYC or Glasgow on a Friday night for that matter graeme |
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Banksy Release This Year?, by graeme501 on Oct 29, 2008 12:43:27 GMT 1, exactly 
it was just a case of getting out a comfort zone and embracing another culture, cant think of one unfriendly moment while in bethlehem
exactly it was just a case of getting out a comfort zone and embracing another culture, cant think of one unfriendly moment while in bethlehem |
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dmandpenfold
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Banksy Release This Year?, by dmandpenfold on Oct 29, 2008 12:46:05 GMT 1, did you meet the Russians with wads of cash
did you meet the Russians with wads of cash
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Banksy Release This Year?, by alsbabar on Oct 29, 2008 12:47:14 GMT 1, did you meet the Russians with wads of cash
he went on behalf of one
joke joke joke 
did you meet the Russians with wads of cash he went on behalf of one joke joke joke |
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Banksy Release This Year?, by Daniel Silk on Oct 29, 2008 12:48:31 GMT 1, Yes = 49
No = 46
Near 50/50 
Yes = 49 No = 46 Near 50/50 |
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dmandpenfold
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December 2006
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Banksy Release This Year?, by dmandpenfold on Oct 29, 2008 12:52:21 GMT 1, the ayes to the right have it.....so far
the ayes to the right have it.....so far
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Banksy Release This Year?, by graeme501 on Oct 29, 2008 12:56:19 GMT 1, did you meet the Russians with wads of cash he went on behalf of one joke joke joke
did you meet the Russians with wads of cash he went on behalf of one joke joke joke |
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skelly
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February 2008
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Banksy Release This Year?, by skelly on Oct 29, 2008 17:38:53 GMT 1, I voted no...part of me is surprised there was ever Banksy artwork available for sale
I voted no...part of me is surprised there was ever Banksy artwork available for sale
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raiden
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April 2008
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Banksy Release This Year?, by raiden on Oct 29, 2008 20:07:45 GMT 1, Based on the American youth market, its merely an issue of price point how many prints Banksy can sell in a day. This is a massive market that has been priced out of Banksy pretty much from the start ... remember the exchange rate basically priced Americans 20-25 out of the signed Bansky market entirely. Meanwhile, "Wall and Piece" sold massively and was in fairly large retailers like Urban Outfitters.
Considering he can sell through 500 S&S for ยฃ525.00 in seconds, I'd estimate he could sell through 10 editions of 1,000 in hours.
At ยฃ100? No telling how quickly.
Dare I say it, Banksy could be to the 18-34 set what Thomas Kinkade is to the elderly!
But seriously, Fairey releases approximately 10,000 prints a year (2 release a month X 450 ed X 12 months)
Kinkade releases probably 50,000 S/N editions a year.
Dali in his waning years tanked his market by releasing untold number of editions - the price and size of his editions in the 70-80s are staggering.
Banksy release pace for an artist of his stature and popularity is glacial in comparison even to Warhol - and his market is still growing!
Based on the American youth market, its merely an issue of price point how many prints Banksy can sell in a day. This is a massive market that has been priced out of Banksy pretty much from the start ... remember the exchange rate basically priced Americans 20-25 out of the signed Bansky market entirely. Meanwhile, "Wall and Piece" sold massively and was in fairly large retailers like Urban Outfitters.
Considering he can sell through 500 S&S for ยฃ525.00 in seconds, I'd estimate he could sell through 10 editions of 1,000 in hours.
At ยฃ100? No telling how quickly.
Dare I say it, Banksy could be to the 18-34 set what Thomas Kinkade is to the elderly!
But seriously, Fairey releases approximately 10,000 prints a year (2 release a month X 450 ed X 12 months)
Kinkade releases probably 50,000 S/N editions a year.
Dali in his waning years tanked his market by releasing untold number of editions - the price and size of his editions in the 70-80s are staggering.
Banksy release pace for an artist of his stature and popularity is glacial in comparison even to Warhol - and his market is still growing!
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anthoz
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Banksy Release This Year?, by anthoz on Oct 29, 2008 23:39:40 GMT 1, Banksy release pace for an artist of his stature and popularity is glacial in comparison even to Warhol - and his market is still growing!
I believe there are in excess of 100,000 warhol prints in circulation that can be authenticated or documented,including 3500 marilyns.....
I suspect that the market for Banksy to release stuff is huge, but maybe he simply doesnt want to.
In the long run if little more Banksy is released it may actually be the thing that stops his name from being as well know to future generations as Warhol's.Is that a bad thing? I dont know!
Huge numbers of prints only served to help Warhol,maybe because the more there are (within reason) the more people will want to attain one or see one owned by a friend, and the more there will be to hang in galleries and collections.
But if the artists doesnt want to get into galleries and collections then perhaps this is of little consequence?
A
Banksy release pace for an artist of his stature and popularity is glacial in comparison even to Warhol - and his market is still growing! I believe there are in excess of 100,000 warhol prints in circulation that can be authenticated or documented,including 3500 marilyns..... I suspect that the market for Banksy to release stuff is huge, but maybe he simply doesnt want to. In the long run if little more Banksy is released it may actually be the thing that stops his name from being as well know to future generations as Warhol's.Is that a bad thing? I dont know! Huge numbers of prints only served to help Warhol,maybe because the more there are (within reason) the more people will want to attain one or see one owned by a friend, and the more there will be to hang in galleries and collections. But if the artists doesnt want to get into galleries and collections then perhaps this is of little consequence? A |
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Banksy Release This Year?, by silverfox on Oct 29, 2008 23:48:42 GMT 1, Sitting in POW as we speak.
Sitting in POW as we speak.
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Banksy Release This Year?, by Daniel Silk on Oct 29, 2008 23:55:58 GMT 1, Maybe doing a big run like 10,000 is a bit early? Maybe it will happen one day but could be they are worried its too early in his career? Dont want it to look like a five minute wonder, so best to string it out a bit, drop a small release every year or so for say five years  and then do a big release ;D
Maybe doing a big run like 10,000 is a bit early? Maybe it will happen one day but could be they are worried its too early in his career? Dont want it to look like a five minute wonder, so best to string it out a bit, drop a small release every year or so for say five years and then do a big release ;D |
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Banksy Release This Year?, by arcam on Oct 29, 2008 23:55:58 GMT 1, Sitting in POW as we speak.
Now that's just teasing. ;D
Sitting in POW as we speak. Now that's just teasing. ;D |
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dwight
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November 2006
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Banksy Release This Year?, by dwight on Oct 30, 2008 18:37:19 GMT 1, warhol did produce at a breakneck pace, but that was part of the irony. he wanted to have as little to do with production as possible and to make it as mass produced as possible...
Anyway, on the topic of new releases..I've wondered for a long time as well if there was a legal dispute or falling out which has delayed the release of any new prints. Maybe it is a strategic move for banksy's career, but I can't imagine laz being in support of it. laz is a $$$(or pounds sterling). There will be a ghetto and there will be something released there..(in my opinion of course)
warhol did produce at a breakneck pace, but that was part of the irony. he wanted to have as little to do with production as possible and to make it as mass produced as possible...
Anyway, on the topic of new releases..I've wondered for a long time as well if there was a legal dispute or falling out which has delayed the release of any new prints. Maybe it is a strategic move for banksy's career, but I can't imagine laz being in support of it. laz is a $$$(or pounds sterling). There will be a ghetto and there will be something released there..(in my opinion of course)
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Banksy Release This Year?, by Daniel Silk on Nov 1, 2008 17:03:24 GMT 1, I seem to remember things felt very similar last year before the Ghetto with it all being very unsure of a Banksy release. I think we are gonna see at the very least one Banksy print released ;D fingers crossed 
I seem to remember things felt very similar last year before the Ghetto with it all being very unsure of a Banksy release. I think we are gonna see at the very least one Banksy print released ;D fingers crossed |
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Sundowner
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September 2008
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Banksy Release This Year?, by Sundowner on Nov 1, 2008 18:12:46 GMT 1, Silky, I'm with you. 2008 has been a comparitively quiet year for Mr. B when you look at the preceding 5 years......something will happen!
Silky, I'm with you. 2008 has been a comparitively quiet year for Mr. B when you look at the preceding 5 years......something will happen!
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Banksy Release This Year?, by They call me Stephen on Nov 1, 2008 18:27:41 GMT 1, Silky, I'm with you. 2008 has been a comparitively quiet year for Mr. B when you look at the preceding 5 years......something will happen!
^^ not really;
cans, new york pet store, new york 3x huge rats, new orleans, alabama, one nation under cctv, his tesco piece (pretty certain it was done during 2008) and i'm sure i've probably missed a few from this list as well!
print wise 2008 might have been quiet but it was a very busy year art wise.
Bankst is a street artist primarily, his print releases help fund his work, i doubt he needs much funding these days!
Silky, I'm with you. 2008 has been a comparitively quiet year for Mr. B when you look at the preceding 5 years......something will happen! ^^ not really; cans, new york pet store, new york 3x huge rats, new orleans, alabama, one nation under cctv, his tesco piece (pretty certain it was done during 2008) and i'm sure i've probably missed a few from this list as well! print wise 2008 might have been quiet but it was a very busy year art wise. Bankst is a street artist primarily, his print releases help fund his work, i doubt he needs much funding these days! |
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kennas
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October 2008
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Banksy Release This Year?, by kennas on Nov 1, 2008 20:03:29 GMT 1, No. of print releases per year to date:
2002 - 1
2003 - 14
2004 - 14
2005 - 6
2006 - 4
2007 - 3
Info source bidendidendumb (or whatever its called, and you sceptics say it was good for nothing!!!). So there is very obviously a downward trend, however it must be in his interests to keep releasing limited edition prints, to keep the masses interested and prices for originals sky high. My predictions are we will continue to see one to two releases per year, and even if Banksy himself no longer needs the money, he will continue to do his sterling work for good causes by giving the money away!
No. of print releases per year to date:
2002 - 1
2003 - 14
2004 - 14
2005 - 6
2006 - 4
2007 - 3
Info source bidendidendumb (or whatever its called, and you sceptics say it was good for nothing!!!). So there is very obviously a downward trend, however it must be in his interests to keep releasing limited edition prints, to keep the masses interested and prices for originals sky high. My predictions are we will continue to see one to two releases per year, and even if Banksy himself no longer needs the money, he will continue to do his sterling work for good causes by giving the money away!
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Sacked...
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Banksy Release This Year?, by Sacked... on Nov 1, 2008 23:25:41 GMT 1, Do you think we will see any sort of Banksy print release between now and the end of the Year? Could we see a Banksy release at this years Ghetto? Or do you think we have seen the end of big edition print runs from Banksy? YES or NO ;D
Computer says NO.
But then again
Yeah...but....no....but !!
Do you think we will see any sort of Banksy print release between now and the end of the Year? Could we see a Banksy release at this years Ghetto? Or do you think we have seen the end of big edition print runs from Banksy? YES or NO ;D Computer says NO. But then again Yeah...but....no....but !! |
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linkd95
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July 2008
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Banksy Release This Year?, by linkd95 on Nov 1, 2008 23:56:36 GMT 1, Actually, hopefully he will release a really good print this year or the early stages of 09 but he should put them on POW or Laz Inc or some of them on BOTH anonymusly soo no one knows when they're going to come out and its all FAIR, no private views for this so if your lucky and your on their sight at the right time then you get one
Actually, hopefully he will release a really good print this year or the early stages of 09 but he should put them on POW or Laz Inc or some of them on BOTH anonymusly soo no one knows when they're going to come out and its all FAIR, no private views for this so if your lucky and your on their sight at the right time then you get one |
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Sundowner
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September 2008
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Banksy Release This Year?, by Sundowner on Nov 2, 2008 12:20:30 GMT 1, Sorry, I meant quiet from a prints perspective!
Sorry, I meant quiet from a prints perspective!
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digitalkid
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October 2008
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Banksy Release This Year?, by digitalkid on Nov 2, 2008 18:36:01 GMT 1, Oh yeah! I think 5,000 at ยฃ100 each would sell out easy. Loads of people around that have only just started to find out about Banksy and would jump at the chance to get their hand on a piece. I dont think 10,000 would sell out instantly but would still be gone within a few weeks. Can you imagine how p155ed off you'd get writing 1/10,000, 2/10,000, 3/10,000... in the corner of each print in pencil?! I recon after 3 days of that 5hit you'd be ready to top yourself and would still only have got to 459/10,000 by the time you abandoned all hope of ever getting the project finished ;D The 750 signed edition followed by the 500 signed addition last year was quite an achievement IMO.
I don't think this is as bad as you make out - spending a few days smoking spliffs, drinking tea, listening to music and signing prints is not to bad..
I also think someone else would number the prints. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this?
Oh yeah! I think 5,000 at ยฃ100 each would sell out easy. Loads of people around that have only just started to find out about Banksy and would jump at the chance to get their hand on a piece. I dont think 10,000 would sell out instantly but would still be gone within a few weeks. Can you imagine how p155ed off you'd get writing 1/10,000, 2/10,000, 3/10,000... in the corner of each print in pencil?! I recon after 3 days of that 5hit you'd be ready to top yourself and would still only have got to 459/10,000 by the time you abandoned all hope of ever getting the project finished ;D The 750 signed edition followed by the 500 signed addition last year was quite an achievement IMO. I don't think this is as bad as you make out - spending a few days smoking spliffs, drinking tea, listening to music and signing prints is not to bad.. I also think someone else would number the prints. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this? |
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Banksy Release This Year?, by weaver on Nov 2, 2008 18:38:43 GMT 1, Can you imagine how p155ed off you'd get writing 1/10,000, 2/10,000, 3/10,000... in the corner of each print in pencil?! I recon after 3 days of that 5hit you'd be ready to top yourself and would still only have got to 459/10,000 by the time you abandoned all hope of ever getting the project finished ;D The 750 signed edition followed by the 500 signed addition last year was quite an achievement IMO. youre not wrong. I don't think this is as bad as you make out - spending a few days smoking spliffs, drinking tea, listening to music and signing prints is not to bad.. I also think someone else would number the prints. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this?
Can you imagine how p155ed off you'd get writing 1/10,000, 2/10,000, 3/10,000... in the corner of each print in pencil?! I recon after 3 days of that 5hit you'd be ready to top yourself and would still only have got to 459/10,000 by the time you abandoned all hope of ever getting the project finished ;D The 750 signed edition followed by the 500 signed addition last year was quite an achievement IMO. youre not wrong. I don't think this is as bad as you make out - spending a few days smoking spliffs, drinking tea, listening to music and signing prints is not to bad.. I also think someone else would number the prints. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this? |
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Banksy Release This Year?, by Daniel Silk on Nov 4, 2008 13:41:31 GMT 1, Silky, I'm with you. 2008 has been a comparitively quiet year for Mr. B when you look at the preceding 5 years......something will happen!
Yeah, I think we are all hoping for a release ;D and going by the vote most of us really think we are gonna see one by the end of the year ;D
Silky, I'm with you. 2008 has been a comparitively quiet year for Mr. B when you look at the preceding 5 years......something will happen! Yeah, I think we are all hoping for a release ;D and going by the vote most of us really think we are gonna see one by the end of the year ;D |
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Banksy Release This Year?, by buffin on Nov 4, 2008 13:51:18 GMT 1, Has it been a quiet year? What with Cans 1 and 2, various street pieces, New Orleans, Village Pet store and rumours of helping MBW out I thought Mr B had been quite busy!
Has it been a quiet year? What with Cans 1 and 2, various street pieces, New Orleans, Village Pet store and rumours of helping MBW out I thought Mr B had been quite busy!
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but would still be gone within a few weeks.
and then do a big release ;D 
