edcase
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Urgent advice plz, by edcase on Sept 3, 2008 21:28:55 GMT 1, Hi all,
Taking my BME and Turf War in tomorrow for authentication purposes, just took the back off my bme and this is what I found:
It's been taped to the mount
Bear in mind I bought this in 2002, and it went to some random local framer and has been on my wall ever since.
The tape is kind of like super-thin masking tape, but if I try and peel it off while it comes away very easy, it leaves 'part of itself' as a kind of residue on the rear of the print.
Is there a technique to getting this stuff off or am I, excuse the pun, stuck with it? Not that I'm selling, but does this dramatically devalue the print even though it's on the rear and does not affect the integrity of the print?
Any advice welcomed. I was planning on taking it out of the frame and in a tube tomorrow, but I don't know what to do now, as I can't then easily just put it back in the frame
thanks ed
Hi all, Taking my BME and Turf War in tomorrow for authentication purposes, just took the back off my bme and this is what I found: It's been taped to the mount Bear in mind I bought this in 2002, and it went to some random local framer and has been on my wall ever since. The tape is kind of like super-thin masking tape, but if I try and peel it off while it comes away very easy, it leaves 'part of itself' as a kind of residue on the rear of the print. Is there a technique to getting this stuff off or am I, excuse the pun, stuck with it? Not that I'm selling, but does this dramatically devalue the print even though it's on the rear and does not affect the integrity of the print? Any advice welcomed. I was planning on taking it out of the frame and in a tube tomorrow, but I don't know what to do now, as I can't then easily just put it back in the frame thanks ed
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EdgeArt
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Urgent advice plz, by EdgeArt on Sept 3, 2008 21:31:51 GMT 1, I'll PM you
I'll PM you
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Urgent advice plz, by slowmo on Sept 3, 2008 21:34:59 GMT 1, Thats well f**ked! I'll take it off your hands, although its ruined, I'll give you ยฃ1200.
Cant honestly say this is much of an issue as long as it doesn't show on the other side. If you're thinking of selling, then outline the problem and sell it as a Buy it now for what you want. If not and it dont show, then its not really a problem.
Interestingly I wonder how many people are now thinking of opening up the back of their old framed works?
Thats well f**ked! I'll take it off your hands, although its ruined, I'll give you ยฃ1200. Cant honestly say this is much of an issue as long as it doesn't show on the other side. If you're thinking of selling, then outline the problem and sell it as a Buy it now for what you want. If not and it dont show, then its not really a problem. Interestingly I wonder how many people are now thinking of opening up the back of their old framed works?
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edcase
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Urgent advice plz, by edcase on Sept 3, 2008 21:40:30 GMT 1, Heh
Looks like there might be a solution, will take it into my local framers 1st thing and see what they say. I have about 5 pieces off to Mr Frameman on friday so may just have to dump the old one and treat it to a shiny new framejob to say sorry
Good point....dare you open them?! I nearly puked when I opened this one, hadn't even crossed my mind!
I feel like opening the back of my headless astro now, that was bought framed (although it's a lovely framejob so I'm sure there's no worries. Is there. IS THERE???!!!! )
Heh Looks like there might be a solution, will take it into my local framers 1st thing and see what they say. I have about 5 pieces off to Mr Frameman on friday so may just have to dump the old one and treat it to a shiny new framejob to say sorry Good point....dare you open them?! I nearly puked when I opened this one, hadn't even crossed my mind! I feel like opening the back of my headless astro now, that was bought framed (although it's a lovely framejob so I'm sure there's no worries. Is there. IS THERE???!!!! )
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Urgent advice plz, by bobbyt23 on Sept 3, 2008 22:01:14 GMT 1, fuck i bet your heart sank. Let us know how you save it.
fuck i bet your heart sank. Let us know how you save it.
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edcase
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Urgent advice plz, by edcase on Sept 3, 2008 22:02:54 GMT 1, Will do. Not so panicked now having spoken to a couple of people in the know. Will update once I know for sure.
thanks again Ed
Will do. Not so panicked now having spoken to a couple of people in the know. Will update once I know for sure.
thanks again Ed
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jB
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Urgent advice plz, by jB on Sept 3, 2008 22:05:59 GMT 1, That's a suprise -- should be a fairly easy to remove -but let you framer do it though
That's a suprise -- should be a fairly easy to remove -but let you framer do it though
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edcase
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Urgent advice plz, by edcase on Sept 3, 2008 22:27:30 GMT 1, Yep it's going in 9am tomorrow!
Yep it's going in 9am tomorrow!
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Tiki
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Urgent advice plz, by Tiki on Sept 3, 2008 23:45:12 GMT 1, Sounds stupid but blue tack might take it off. Just dab away at it with a ball of tack, might work
Sounds stupid but blue tack might take it off. Just dab away at it with a ball of tack, might work
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Urgent advice plz, by Coach on Sept 3, 2008 23:49:56 GMT 1, Maybe, but for something like BME, I think the best advice is to let a professional deal with the problem.
Maybe, but for something like BME, I think the best advice is to let a professional deal with the problem.
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Winter
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Urgent advice plz, by Winter on Sept 3, 2008 23:51:12 GMT 1, Or a brillo pad
Or a brillo pad
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Zippy
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Urgent advice plz, by Zippy on Sept 4, 2008 0:02:57 GMT 1, its a worry. The last framed print I bought was dry mounted to the backing board. You never really know what your framer is using and a lot of trust is made that the archival hinges are acid free and the tape is Archival etc.... Whose to know that in 10 yars we all have the same problem on our current pieces. Gary, pleae put our minds to rest!!
its a worry. The last framed print I bought was dry mounted to the backing board. You never really know what your framer is using and a lot of trust is made that the archival hinges are acid free and the tape is Archival etc.... Whose to know that in 10 yars we all have the same problem on our current pieces. Gary, pleae put our minds to rest!!
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jB
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Urgent advice plz, by jB on Sept 4, 2008 0:07:16 GMT 1, Think yourself lucky you didnt crack it open to find this... Yes that is regular 50p masking tape- not conservation that was specified, and with nothing between the print and the cheap ass acid laden cardboard behind it. And yes it is stuck on the front of the print, hidden under the non acid free mount where the wa nker assumed it would never be found... Un-fu cking-believable Take it to a specialist Ed....not worth pulling it off yourself
Holy shit! what a mess!!!
Think yourself lucky you didnt crack it open to find this... Yes that is regular 50p masking tape- not conservation that was specified, and with nothing between the print and the cheap ass acid laden cardboard behind it. And yes it is stuck on the front of the print, hidden under the non acid free mount where the wa nker assumed it would never be found... Un-fu cking-believable Take it to a specialist Ed....not worth pulling it off yourself Holy shit! what a mess!!!
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Urgent advice plz, by Coach on Sept 4, 2008 0:17:54 GMT 1, What print is that?
What print is that?
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skelly
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Urgent advice plz, by skelly on Sept 4, 2008 0:26:37 GMT 1, Flags? that really sucks..but a the same thing happened to me with a Trolley...all too common with these framers
Flags? that really sucks..but a the same thing happened to me with a Trolley...all too common with these framers
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edcase
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Urgent advice plz, by edcase on Sept 4, 2008 10:04:22 GMT 1, Well, turns out its plain old masking tape, which given how old it is has just dried up. Peels away easily enough but leaves random clumps of residue on the paper. No damage to the print or paper itself, but it is unlikely it will be possible to remove the residue from the rear.
Well, turns out its plain old masking tape, which given how old it is has just dried up. Peels away easily enough but leaves random clumps of residue on the paper. No damage to the print or paper itself, but it is unlikely it will be possible to remove the residue from the rear.
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Urgent advice plz, by bobbyt23 on Sept 4, 2008 10:21:09 GMT 1, That's not too bad then. Obviously it's not great but it could have been a lot worse.
r@t that flags is horrendous. I hope you kicked off. I'm scared to go look at one I had done locally. I specifically told him not to stick anything to the print but I guess you guys did too.
That's not too bad then. Obviously it's not great but it could have been a lot worse.
r@t that flags is horrendous. I hope you kicked off. I'm scared to go look at one I had done locally. I specifically told him not to stick anything to the print but I guess you guys did too.
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curiousgeorge
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Urgent advice plz, by curiousgeorge on Sept 4, 2008 10:24:29 GMT 1, I know a restoration guy that says he best tool in these situations is often a hairdryer!
That said in this day and age, there really is no excuse for using poor quality/wrong materials, plenty of reversible tapes available.
I know a restoration guy that says he best tool in these situations is often a hairdryer!
That said in this day and age, there really is no excuse for using poor quality/wrong materials, plenty of reversible tapes available.
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edcase
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Urgent advice plz, by edcase on Sept 4, 2008 10:27:15 GMT 1, Yeah mine was framed in 2002 when the prints were ยฃ35! back then I had no real concept that it would ever have any meaningful value. You live and learn
Yeah mine was framed in 2002 when the prints were ยฃ35! back then I had no real concept that it would ever have any meaningful value. You live and learn
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jon11
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Urgent advice plz, by jon11 on Sept 4, 2008 10:45:24 GMT 1, ยฃ35 - you've had had your moneys worth - quit your moaning, burn it and bask in the glory of doing something outrageous! (plus one less in circulation will make mine worth more!!!)
ยฃ35 - you've had had your moneys worth - quit your moaning, burn it and bask in the glory of doing something outrageous! (plus one less in circulation will make mine worth more!!!)
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edcase
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Urgent advice plz, by edcase on Sept 4, 2008 10:49:14 GMT 1,
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EdgeArt
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Urgent advice plz, by EdgeArt on Sept 4, 2008 10:49:28 GMT 1, That's not too bad then. Obviously it's not great but it could have been a lot worse. r@t that flags is horrendous. I hope you kicked off. I'm scared to go look at one I had done locally. I specifically told him not to stick anything to the print but I guess you guys did too.
Just had / am having a very similar experience
Especially when he was categorically told what to use and what not to do... could develop into a big issue for me I fear
That's not too bad then. Obviously it's not great but it could have been a lot worse. r@t that flags is horrendous. I hope you kicked off. I'm scared to go look at one I had done locally. I specifically told him not to stick anything to the print but I guess you guys did too. Just had / am having a very similar experience Especially when he was categorically told what to use and what not to do... could develop into a big issue for me I fear
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Urgent advice plz, by doublehelix on Sept 4, 2008 10:51:09 GMT 1, Mike, is the framer someone we know on here? Hope not!
Mike, is the framer someone we know on here? Hope not!
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EdgeArt
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Urgent advice plz, by EdgeArt on Sept 4, 2008 10:53:58 GMT 1, Mike, is the framer someone we know on here? Hope not!
Nope, just a local monkey
Mike, is the framer someone we know on here? Hope not! Nope, just a local monkey
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Urgent advice plz, by doublehelix on Sept 4, 2008 10:55:59 GMT 1, Phew! Hope you get it sorted.
Phew! Hope you get it sorted.
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Urgent advice plz, by mammal2 on Sept 4, 2008 10:59:26 GMT 1, This is making me worry. However most of my Banksy were done by an excellent Gallery so I am sure they are all cool. I hope. Rat, that Flag is shocking.
This is making me worry. However most of my Banksy were done by an excellent Gallery so I am sure they are all cool. I hope. Rat, that Flag is shocking.
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Bram
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Urgent advice plz, by Bram on Sept 4, 2008 11:03:24 GMT 1, What is it with framers that after an hour of explaining how exactly you want the job done, they try and convince you to have it super glued to piece of 3x2. Those back boards are hiding many nightmares I'd say.
What is it with framers that after an hour of explaining how exactly you want the job done, they try and convince you to have it super glued to piece of 3x2. Those back boards are hiding many nightmares I'd say.
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jon11
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Urgent advice plz, by jon11 on Sept 4, 2008 11:13:05 GMT 1, pay peanuts - you get monkeys
right mike - you tight northern monkey!
pay peanuts - you get monkeys
right mike - you tight northern monkey!
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Richard
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Urgent advice plz, by Richard on Sept 4, 2008 11:13:57 GMT 1, Scary.
Scary.
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EdgeArt
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Urgent advice plz, by EdgeArt on Sept 4, 2008 11:14:26 GMT 1, pay peanuts - you get monkeys right mike - you tight northern monkey!
Cost me a fuckin fortune... Need to work out the next step, but if it's on their insurance it's gonna cost them one!
pay peanuts - you get monkeys right mike - you tight northern monkey! Cost me a fuckin fortune... Need to work out the next step, but if it's on their insurance it's gonna cost them one!
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