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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by snausages on Mar 11, 2009 17:50:47 GMT 1, This is one of my favorite affordable Warhol prints: cgi.ebay.com/Andy-Warhol-Vote-McGovern-1972-sig-num_W0QQitemZ200316796804
The price on this auction is about average though and the condition isn't 100% so I wouldn't go much higher than the opening bid. But this print pops up time to time for under $5000 at auction houses. I guess not too many people want a picture of Nixon on their wall. Personally I like the colors and love the humour and irony in the message, one of Warhol's most Banksy like prints.
This is one of my favorite affordable Warhol prints: cgi.ebay.com/Andy-Warhol-Vote-McGovern-1972-sig-num_W0QQitemZ200316796804The price on this auction is about average though and the condition isn't 100% so I wouldn't go much higher than the opening bid. But this print pops up time to time for under $5000 at auction houses. I guess not too many people want a picture of Nixon on their wall. Personally I like the colors and love the humour and irony in the message, one of Warhol's most Banksy like prints.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by sashaz on Mar 11, 2009 18:10:16 GMT 1,
I got this today also, shame the Euro is at such a rubbish rate. at the old rate would have made a few thousand off that.
I got this today also, shame the Euro is at such a rubbish rate. at the old rate would have made a few thousand off that.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by sashaz on Mar 11, 2009 18:16:31 GMT 1, Im going to send a bid in for the beef one.
Im going to send a bid in for the beef one.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by achtungbono on Apr 9, 2009 15:01:07 GMT 1, zactly as it says in the title - Warhol soup wanted - either I or II, any flavour - must be real deal & verified / verifiable
No Sunday B's please
what can I offer ?
More Banksy than you can shake a stick at
the rat quintet, trolleys, Naplams, VM, Moneky Queens, J&J....the lsit is endless..some signed, all immacualte & POW checked
Would sell some/all of these insolent puppies should a realistically priced Warhol suppe come along
Obviously I would prefer to keep the banksy, but am willing to mix it up a bit to get what I want
laters
zactly as it says in the title - Warhol soup wanted - either I or II, any flavour - must be real deal & verified / verifiable
No Sunday B's please
what can I offer ?
More Banksy than you can shake a stick at
the rat quintet, trolleys, Naplams, VM, Moneky Queens, J&J....the lsit is endless..some signed, all immacualte & POW checked
Would sell some/all of these insolent puppies should a realistically priced Warhol suppe come along
Obviously I would prefer to keep the banksy, but am willing to mix it up a bit to get what I want
laters
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Guest on Apr 9, 2009 15:03:06 GMT 1, What sort of price do the soup cans go for?
What sort of price do the soup cans go for?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by achtungbono on Apr 9, 2009 15:05:46 GMT 1, Theres been a thread on this earlier - not as expensive as they used to be!
the less desirable ones ( "scraggy cock end broth" or similar ) seem to be about half the price of the seris I tomato soups
But im sure someone will contribute on this sooner ratehr than later, form a positon of knowledge
Theres been a thread on this earlier - not as expensive as they used to be!
the less desirable ones ( "scraggy cock end broth" or similar ) seem to be about half the price of the seris I tomato soups
But im sure someone will contribute on this sooner ratehr than later, form a positon of knowledge
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on Apr 9, 2009 17:06:33 GMT 1, >>>Would sell some/all of these insolent puppies should a realistically priced Warhol suppe come along<<<
There have been plenty on artnet as of late and am sure that both Christie's and Sotheby's will have a few in their upcoming April print auction. They've been getting bought in at $12k US with regularity as of late. If I were a buyer, I wouldn't pay more than $8k for anything other than Tomato which gets a hefty premium but nowhere near the $30-50k it once traded for. My *guess* is Tomato would cost you around $20k these days.
>>>Would sell some/all of these insolent puppies should a realistically priced Warhol suppe come along<<<
There have been plenty on artnet as of late and am sure that both Christie's and Sotheby's will have a few in their upcoming April print auction. They've been getting bought in at $12k US with regularity as of late. If I were a buyer, I wouldn't pay more than $8k for anything other than Tomato which gets a hefty premium but nowhere near the $30-50k it once traded for. My *guess* is Tomato would cost you around $20k these days.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by hero on Apr 9, 2009 17:19:28 GMT 1, a friend of mine was looking to sell a can of campbell's chicken soup-signed by warhol-but could not auction it because it was past the sell-by date
if your interested i will pass onto him
H
a friend of mine was looking to sell a can of campbell's chicken soup-signed by warhol-but could not auction it because it was past the sell-by date
if your interested i will pass onto him
H
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Photoxtc on May 15, 2009 23:56:19 GMT 1, Looking to buy Warhol's 'Vesuvius'
If anyone has one or can lead me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it...
Thanks so much...
Looking to buy Warhol's 'Vesuvius'
If anyone has one or can lead me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it...
Thanks so much...
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Photoxtc on May 16, 2009 18:51:58 GMT 1, Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces???
Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces???
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Photoxtc on May 16, 2009 23:45:07 GMT 1,
Thank you, exactly what I'm looking for... ;D
Thank you, exactly what I'm looking for... ;D
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by jB on May 17, 2009 7:04:18 GMT 1, LEE3 may be the man to ask - I know this one is right down the way from you photo, but lee seems to know his stuff with warhol and the likes
good luck pal
LEE3 may be the man to ask - I know this one is right down the way from you photo, but lee seems to know his stuff with warhol and the likes
good luck pal
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by achtungbono on May 17, 2009 10:07:35 GMT 1, good luck
been after a soupcan for a while and have had a few leads, but nowt yet
good luck
been after a soupcan for a while and have had a few leads, but nowt yet
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Photoxtc on May 17, 2009 10:17:47 GMT 1, Thanks guys....
I've had a nice chunk of change set aside for one of these for some time now and thought I might have some luck on the forums.... The search continues, fingers crossed....
Thanks guys.... I've had a nice chunk of change set aside for one of these for some time now and thought I might have some luck on the forums.... The search continues, fingers crossed....
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Happy Shopper on May 17, 2009 11:18:37 GMT 1, What sort of price are these? I'd love to get a Warhol too, but need to do some research i think!
What sort of price are these? I'd love to get a Warhol too, but need to do some research i think!
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on May 17, 2009 11:21:56 GMT 1, Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces???
why in fucks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed?
a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about.
lazy
Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces??? why in fucks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. lazy
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by notworthit on May 17, 2009 12:17:05 GMT 1, Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces??? why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. lazy
god you're a misery aren't you!
Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces??? why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. lazy god you're a misery aren't you!
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by snausages on May 17, 2009 15:15:10 GMT 1, Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces??? why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. lazy
Uh, well I have a Warhol. And I have a friend who deals in Warhols prints. I actually sent him an email to see if he has a Vesuvius. I will PM you photoxtc if has one or knows of anywhere that does.
Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces??? why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. lazy Uh, well I have a Warhol. And I have a friend who deals in Warhols prints. I actually sent him an email to see if he has a Vesuvius. I will PM you photoxtc if has one or knows of anywhere that does.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by snausages on May 17, 2009 16:23:49 GMT 1, why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. Yup, he has a Vesuvius, PM sent, thanks for your help though.
why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. Yup, he has a Vesuvius, PM sent, thanks for your help though.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by mattlan on May 17, 2009 16:48:55 GMT 1, how much do his prints tend to cost?
how much do his prints tend to cost?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Photoxtc on May 17, 2009 18:52:01 GMT 1, Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces??? why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. lazy
I think you underestimate some of the collectors on this forum.... and this is one step in the process of my search you tit...
Anyone??? best place to find/buy warhol pieces??? why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. lazy I think you underestimate some of the collectors on this forum.... and this is one step in the process of my search you tit...
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Photoxtc on May 17, 2009 18:54:21 GMT 1, why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. Yup, he has a Vesuvius, PM sent, thanks for your help though.
Thanks so much snausages... ;D
why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? a little independent research on the internet should help you, or perhaps speak to galleries and people who KNOW what they are talking about. Yup, he has a Vesuvius, PM sent, thanks for your help though. Thanks so much snausages... ;D
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by aginghippie on May 18, 2009 1:39:49 GMT 1, why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? Maybe, maybe not. Personally I collect most post war art of which the art mostly discussed here makes up about 15% of my collection. I seriously doubt I am the only one here with that sort of profile. Actually I think this is a good place to ask because even if they don't have the piece themselves they may well have contacts who do. I bought a Warhol piece myself like that (Queen Elizabeth to pair with a Turf War) from someone I knew who used to buy Warhol folios in the old days.
why in f**ks name are you asking on the banksy.info board? Think many people here have a Warhol in the print portfolio under the bed? Maybe, maybe not. Personally I collect most post war art of which the art mostly discussed here makes up about 15% of my collection. I seriously doubt I am the only one here with that sort of profile. Actually I think this is a good place to ask because even if they don't have the piece themselves they may well have contacts who do. I bought a Warhol piece myself like that (Queen Elizabeth to pair with a Turf War) from someone I knew who used to buy Warhol folios in the old days.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on May 18, 2009 16:35:45 GMT 1, Hamilton selway is a decent place but again their prices are high, not as sky high as Coskun or Martin Lawrence but high nonetheless. I have never seen any Warhol print dealer offering their wares for anywhere near the going rate at auction. Most are double to triple the price. Vesuvius is not a high demand print or canvas so you should have a lot of wiggle room here. However, Warhol did very well last week at the May auctions and I suspect that will give dealers more confidence in not lowering offer prices. I'd be patient and wait for it to come to auction later this summer or fall as there are 250 of these plus another 117 additional proofs. If you want to drop me a PM with your email address, i can reply with the auction history for this image.
Bottom line, the last one to trade from the edition of 250 sold for $16,250 in April, one of the trial proofs (edition of 57) went for $36k earlier that same month. Another from the edition of 250 went for $24k earlier in April and back in December one sold for $60k. Over the past 1.5 years the edition of 250 has come to auction about 10 times and traded at a low (most recently) of $16,250 and a high of $85k. I, personally, wouldn't pay more than $20-25k for one in mint condition in this climate if I absolutely had to have this image and I suspect you have little chance of getting a print dealer to agree to that price. However, it is obviously common at auction so you don't even need much patience to get it "on the cheap". Good luck
Hamilton selway is a decent place but again their prices are high, not as sky high as Coskun or Martin Lawrence but high nonetheless. I have never seen any Warhol print dealer offering their wares for anywhere near the going rate at auction. Most are double to triple the price. Vesuvius is not a high demand print or canvas so you should have a lot of wiggle room here. However, Warhol did very well last week at the May auctions and I suspect that will give dealers more confidence in not lowering offer prices. I'd be patient and wait for it to come to auction later this summer or fall as there are 250 of these plus another 117 additional proofs. If you want to drop me a PM with your email address, i can reply with the auction history for this image.
Bottom line, the last one to trade from the edition of 250 sold for $16,250 in April, one of the trial proofs (edition of 57) went for $36k earlier that same month. Another from the edition of 250 went for $24k earlier in April and back in December one sold for $60k. Over the past 1.5 years the edition of 250 has come to auction about 10 times and traded at a low (most recently) of $16,250 and a high of $85k. I, personally, wouldn't pay more than $20-25k for one in mint condition in this climate if I absolutely had to have this image and I suspect you have little chance of getting a print dealer to agree to that price. However, it is obviously common at auction so you don't even need much patience to get it "on the cheap". Good luck
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by njr911 on May 18, 2009 16:55:03 GMT 1, wow $16k is on the cheap for the run of 250 !
What would the canvas cost ? I assume that it would be a large edditioned canvas too ?
wow $16k is on the cheap for the run of 250 !
What would the canvas cost ? I assume that it would be a large edditioned canvas too ?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on May 18, 2009 17:23:07 GMT 1, >>>What would the canvas cost ? I assume that it would be a large edditioned canvas too ?<<<
Each of the canvases are obviously "unique" save for the use of the variously sized silk screens. However, unlike Banksy who often #s his stencil editions, Warhol did no such thing so we have to wait until the catalog raisonne is printed and we have some idea about how many canvases were created with this image. There are nearly 200 Jackie's (from memory) but that doesn't make them any less important to my eyes and those cost $600k to $1 million each (there were none for sale last week so hard to say) down from $2.5M at the top. There were (again, from memory- so don't quote me as its been a while since i opened my copies of the raisonnes) around 20 of the 20x16 Marilyn's and the last one of those was nearly $30M while the previous one was $16M. So, "edition" while a factor isn't nearly as important as the desirability of the image itself or the size of the canvas it is on.
Back to your specific question, the Vesuvius canvases are of various sizes and one measuring 143x163cm sold for $1.3M in July '08 before the collapse of the market and I would guess is worth half of that at best today. There were 2 Vesuvius canvases (one large and one small) that went unsold at auction prior to that. If you go back 4 canvases, there was a nice one measuring 180x200cm that sold for $2.3M in October '06. There were various ones done on cardboard and some drawings of this image too and since this was done in '85, your guess is as good as mine as to how many there are. He had an army of people working for him by that point and since his catalog raisonne is only complete through '69, it's going to be many years until the stuff from '85 is released to the public. The last I heard the next edition '70-'73 is due out next year and that will include most of the Mao's. To give you an idea of how slowly the foundation is documenting and releasing his CR, the first edition ('61-'63) was published way back in '02. So, we may be lucky to see the edition covering '85 by 2025.
>>>What would the canvas cost ? I assume that it would be a large edditioned canvas too ?<<<
Each of the canvases are obviously "unique" save for the use of the variously sized silk screens. However, unlike Banksy who often #s his stencil editions, Warhol did no such thing so we have to wait until the catalog raisonne is printed and we have some idea about how many canvases were created with this image. There are nearly 200 Jackie's (from memory) but that doesn't make them any less important to my eyes and those cost $600k to $1 million each (there were none for sale last week so hard to say) down from $2.5M at the top. There were (again, from memory- so don't quote me as its been a while since i opened my copies of the raisonnes) around 20 of the 20x16 Marilyn's and the last one of those was nearly $30M while the previous one was $16M. So, "edition" while a factor isn't nearly as important as the desirability of the image itself or the size of the canvas it is on.
Back to your specific question, the Vesuvius canvases are of various sizes and one measuring 143x163cm sold for $1.3M in July '08 before the collapse of the market and I would guess is worth half of that at best today. There were 2 Vesuvius canvases (one large and one small) that went unsold at auction prior to that. If you go back 4 canvases, there was a nice one measuring 180x200cm that sold for $2.3M in October '06. There were various ones done on cardboard and some drawings of this image too and since this was done in '85, your guess is as good as mine as to how many there are. He had an army of people working for him by that point and since his catalog raisonne is only complete through '69, it's going to be many years until the stuff from '85 is released to the public. The last I heard the next edition '70-'73 is due out next year and that will include most of the Mao's. To give you an idea of how slowly the foundation is documenting and releasing his CR, the first edition ('61-'63) was published way back in '02. So, we may be lucky to see the edition covering '85 by 2025.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by snausages on May 18, 2009 18:01:53 GMT 1, wow $16k is on the cheap for the run of 250 ! Cheap? Maybe so maybe not. After the mania that exploded in urban art you may think so.
But I bought a catalogued, 30x40 in. Warhol ed. of only 50 for about $5k several years ago. Admittedly one of his images in less demand but personally one of my favorite series. But anyway when the price of Banksy screenprints went bonkers I had a very hard time understanding why people were paying so much for them when I could get a signed Warhol for cheaper. It's insane that people were paying more money for a Judgement Day or a Tea Drinker giclee too than my Warhol. I mentioned this kind of thing here but people were so swept up in the moment, that rational thought and intelligent decisions were cast aside. And really I started kicking myself too for putting off buying a Banksy in favor of Warhol, but in retrospect, the Warhol has held its value and I still love it. And it's not even the most valuable thing I own but it always impresses people that I have a signed Warhol print.
wow $16k is on the cheap for the run of 250 ! Cheap? Maybe so maybe not. After the mania that exploded in urban art you may think so. But I bought a catalogued, 30x40 in. Warhol ed. of only 50 for about $5k several years ago. Admittedly one of his images in less demand but personally one of my favorite series. But anyway when the price of Banksy screenprints went bonkers I had a very hard time understanding why people were paying so much for them when I could get a signed Warhol for cheaper. It's insane that people were paying more money for a Judgement Day or a Tea Drinker giclee too than my Warhol. I mentioned this kind of thing here but people were so swept up in the moment, that rational thought and intelligent decisions were cast aside. And really I started kicking myself too for putting off buying a Banksy in favor of Warhol, but in retrospect, the Warhol has held its value and I still love it. And it's not even the most valuable thing I own but it always impresses people that I have a signed Warhol print.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on May 18, 2009 18:26:01 GMT 1, >>>>But anyway when the price of Banksy screenprints went bonkers I had a very hard time understanding why people were paying so much for them when I could get a signed Warhol for cheaper. It's insane that people were paying more money for a Judgement Day or a Tea Drinker giclee too than my Warhol<<<<
I hear you on one hand and I'm certainly no expert on prints but one contributing factor would be volume. There are over a hundred thousdand Warhol signed prints and there are what- (total guess) perhaps 3k signed Banksy prints? Another factor as you touched on is the element of power or iconic imagery. Will Banksy be the signature of this generation as Warhol was to his? Only time will tell and I can appreciate anyone who argues that Banksy is already priced for perfection whereas Warhol achieved it. I agree and disagree with that point but that is of little matter for this discussion.
The point I'm making is that many of the early Banksy prints are iconic for that artist and they will be expensive by comparison should he fade into oblivion but it's obvious the owners enjoy those prints and the press sure does follow every move this artist makes just as they did with Warhol in the '60s. I can only speak from experience but I studied and collected Warhol feverishly 10 years ago and over the past year I've made my first art sales ever which included selling a pair of what I consider decorative Warhol works and used the proceeds to purchase what I consider iconic Banksy images. The latter seem much more powerful to my wife and I on our walls and we are both very happy with that decision (although we sold those particular Warhol's about 5 months too late).
>>>>But anyway when the price of Banksy screenprints went bonkers I had a very hard time understanding why people were paying so much for them when I could get a signed Warhol for cheaper. It's insane that people were paying more money for a Judgement Day or a Tea Drinker giclee too than my Warhol<<<<
I hear you on one hand and I'm certainly no expert on prints but one contributing factor would be volume. There are over a hundred thousdand Warhol signed prints and there are what- (total guess) perhaps 3k signed Banksy prints? Another factor as you touched on is the element of power or iconic imagery. Will Banksy be the signature of this generation as Warhol was to his? Only time will tell and I can appreciate anyone who argues that Banksy is already priced for perfection whereas Warhol achieved it. I agree and disagree with that point but that is of little matter for this discussion.
The point I'm making is that many of the early Banksy prints are iconic for that artist and they will be expensive by comparison should he fade into oblivion but it's obvious the owners enjoy those prints and the press sure does follow every move this artist makes just as they did with Warhol in the '60s. I can only speak from experience but I studied and collected Warhol feverishly 10 years ago and over the past year I've made my first art sales ever which included selling a pair of what I consider decorative Warhol works and used the proceeds to purchase what I consider iconic Banksy images. The latter seem much more powerful to my wife and I on our walls and we are both very happy with that decision (although we sold those particular Warhol's about 5 months too late).
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