killerkellah
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Message to Black Rat Press, by killerkellah on Mar 19, 2008 12:55:59 GMT 1, Ok, so most people on here didnt get a Dface print by the sounds of it. It was sold out before you could say 'Ooh, thats nice!'.
Some people will moan, complain, throw hacking conspiracies about, but at the end of the day it really is the luck of the draw (I believe). Even if you might be a bit more IT savvy than the next man.
As a solution BRP, please dont go down the cues at 5 in the morning route in an attempt to please the moaning mob. (me included)
Anyone who was crazy enough to stand in the cold & confusion, for 7-8 hours for a Micallef litho late last year will tell you - it was awful and in the end not worth it.
Not only was it unhealthy and badly managed, there was violence, fuelled by greed, and it left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths.
It has also probably inadvertently damaged Micallefs rep as an artist - which is a real shame.
BRP, you are a quality outfit who have some big shows coming up in the near future.
Not getting one this time is not really going to put me or anyone off from trying again, is it now?
Brap!
Ok, so most people on here didnt get a Dface print by the sounds of it. It was sold out before you could say 'Ooh, thats nice!'.
Some people will moan, complain, throw hacking conspiracies about, but at the end of the day it really is the luck of the draw (I believe). Even if you might be a bit more IT savvy than the next man.
As a solution BRP, please dont go down the cues at 5 in the morning route in an attempt to please the moaning mob. (me included)
Anyone who was crazy enough to stand in the cold & confusion, for 7-8 hours for a Micallef litho late last year will tell you - it was awful and in the end not worth it.
Not only was it unhealthy and badly managed, there was violence, fuelled by greed, and it left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths.
It has also probably inadvertently damaged Micallefs rep as an artist - which is a real shame.
BRP, you are a quality outfit who have some big shows coming up in the near future.
Not getting one this time is not really going to put me or anyone off from trying again, is it now?
Brap!
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ABC
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Message to Black Rat Press, by ABC on Mar 19, 2008 13:00:38 GMT 1, You can pull your tongue out now.
You can pull your tongue out now.
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killerkellah
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Message to Black Rat Press, by killerkellah on Mar 19, 2008 13:01:47 GMT 1, d i c k
d i c k
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seidbereit
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Message to Black Rat Press, by seidbereit on Mar 19, 2008 13:05:43 GMT 1, I think your mistake was taking the time to say "ooh that's nice" if I'm honest.
I think your mistake was taking the time to say "ooh that's nice" if I'm honest.
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killerkellah
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Message to Black Rat Press, by killerkellah on Mar 19, 2008 13:06:45 GMT 1, quality reply! damn, ill know better next time!
quality reply! damn, ill know better next time!
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G-Man
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Message to Black Rat Press, by G-Man on Mar 19, 2008 13:22:27 GMT 1, I had one in my basket and it said i'd timed out after 2 bloody minutes I'm gutted
I had one in my basket and it said i'd timed out after 2 bloody minutes I'm gutted
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Message to Black Rat Press, by carlito on Mar 19, 2008 13:44:58 GMT 1, my only comment would be lets go back to not knowing the exact date and time...well okay brp always release at 11 but u know what i mean
my only comment would be lets go back to not knowing the exact date and time...well okay brp always release at 11 but u know what i mean
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Message to Black Rat Press, by silverfox on Mar 19, 2008 13:52:27 GMT 1, my only comment would be lets go back to not knowing the exact date and time...well okay brp always release at 11 but u know what i mean
Makes no difference
my only comment would be lets go back to not knowing the exact date and time...well okay brp always release at 11 but u know what i mean Makes no difference
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tricorn
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Message to Black Rat Press, by tricorn on Mar 19, 2008 13:54:59 GMT 1, I got mine at 11:37, not sure what difference that makes....carry on
I got mine at 11:37, not sure what difference that makes....carry on
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Message to Black Rat Press, by manty on Mar 19, 2008 16:33:35 GMT 1, Was there a release today then? :-)
Was there a release today then? :-)
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Sacked...
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Message to Black Rat Press, by Sacked... on Mar 19, 2008 17:46:11 GMT 1, Who's this DFACE fellah then ? ,is he popular ?
Who's this DFACE fellah then ? ,is he popular ?
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hunter
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Message to Black Rat Press, by hunter on Mar 19, 2008 18:03:45 GMT 1, Ok, so most people on here didnt get a Dface print by the sounds of it. It was sold out before you could say 'Ooh, thats nice!'. Some people will moan, complain, throw hacking conspiracies about, but at the end of the day it really is the luck of the draw (I believe). Even if you might be a bit more IT savvy than the next man. As a solution BRP, please dont go down the cues at 5 in the morning route in an attempt to please the moaning mob. (me included) Anyone who was crazy enough to stand in the cold & confusion, for 7-8 hours for a Micallef litho late last year will tell you - it was awful and in the end not worth it. Not only was it unhealthy and badly managed, there was violence, fuelled by greed, and it left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths. It has also probably inadvertently damaged Micallefs rep as an artist - which is a real shame. BRP, you are a quality outfit who have some big shows coming up in the near future. Not getting one this time is not really going to put me or anyone off from trying again, is it now? Brap!
Didn't try this time after the Walker release a while back. A queue isn't necessarily the answer as that probably wouldn't have secured you a Blek monoprint at the BRP print show. You have to be connected to get anything decent these days. Little or no chance for us plebs.
Ok, so most people on here didnt get a Dface print by the sounds of it. It was sold out before you could say 'Ooh, thats nice!'. Some people will moan, complain, throw hacking conspiracies about, but at the end of the day it really is the luck of the draw (I believe). Even if you might be a bit more IT savvy than the next man. As a solution BRP, please dont go down the cues at 5 in the morning route in an attempt to please the moaning mob. (me included) Anyone who was crazy enough to stand in the cold & confusion, for 7-8 hours for a Micallef litho late last year will tell you - it was awful and in the end not worth it. Not only was it unhealthy and badly managed, there was violence, fuelled by greed, and it left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths. It has also probably inadvertently damaged Micallefs rep as an artist - which is a real shame. BRP, you are a quality outfit who have some big shows coming up in the near future. Not getting one this time is not really going to put me or anyone off from trying again, is it now? Brap! Didn't try this time after the Walker release a while back. A queue isn't necessarily the answer as that probably wouldn't have secured you a Blek monoprint at the BRP print show. You have to be connected to get anything decent these days. Little or no chance for us plebs.
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spude
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Message to Black Rat Press, by spude on Mar 19, 2008 18:32:25 GMT 1, Sorry what i dont understand is the change of policy.If you are going to start moving the prints with one approach with what is a set of prints.Why change the approach midway throught the set. Yes it is crazy for people to que for x amounnts of hours.However i was there myself from early and really i did not see hardly any problems.95% of the people there seemed like genuine fans and obviously there where some flippers there.However the day itself was quite sociable with people from various boards putting faces to names and exchanging discussions of there passions.Selling prints in this way is a far removed alienated approach that feels cold and cynical.I mean if you where a flipper the mark up is not astronimical
Sorry what i dont understand is the change of policy.If you are going to start moving the prints with one approach with what is a set of prints.Why change the approach midway throught the set. Yes it is crazy for people to que for x amounnts of hours.However i was there myself from early and really i did not see hardly any problems.95% of the people there seemed like genuine fans and obviously there where some flippers there.However the day itself was quite sociable with people from various boards putting faces to names and exchanging discussions of there passions.Selling prints in this way is a far removed alienated approach that feels cold and cynical.I mean if you where a flipper the mark up is not astronimical
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BlackRatPress
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Message to Black Rat Press, by BlackRatPress on Mar 19, 2008 19:04:05 GMT 1, Just a note to say sorry to anyone who wanted a street improvements and didnt get one. Also to anyone who had issues with the site. We dont set out to piss people off and believe it or not we do give a shit about people who buy prints from us and about the quaility of what we publish. Whether people queue forever in the cold or buy online there is no perfect way to release prints with the current demand. Again sorry to those who missed out. BRP
Just a note to say sorry to anyone who wanted a street improvements and didnt get one. Also to anyone who had issues with the site. We dont set out to piss people off and believe it or not we do give a shit about people who buy prints from us and about the quaility of what we publish. Whether people queue forever in the cold or buy online there is no perfect way to release prints with the current demand. Again sorry to those who missed out. BRP
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Message to Black Rat Press, by mammal2 on Mar 19, 2008 19:05:26 GMT 1, Just a note to say sorry to anyone who wanted a street improvements and didnt get one. Also to anyone who had issues with the site. We dont set out to piss people off and believe it or not we do give a s**t about people who buy prints from us and about the quaility of what we publish. Whether people queue forever in the cold or buy online there is no perfect way to release prints with the current demand. Again sorry to those who missed out. BRP
At the end of the day 100% correct! Props for the message BRP!
Just a note to say sorry to anyone who wanted a street improvements and didnt get one. Also to anyone who had issues with the site. We dont set out to piss people off and believe it or not we do give a s**t about people who buy prints from us and about the quaility of what we publish. Whether people queue forever in the cold or buy online there is no perfect way to release prints with the current demand. Again sorry to those who missed out. BRP At the end of the day 100% correct! Props for the message BRP!
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jaimesl
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Message to Black Rat Press, by jaimesl on Mar 19, 2008 19:13:35 GMT 1, I disagree with this, although I appreciate that the Micallef experience was a bit rubbish.
The beauty about queing, is that it puts 'us' in control.
If you really want a print get in early, take a daytrip or time off work. Meet a few friends, chat shit and maybe learn something.
I waited outside the last BRP show and although it was a long day, I'd do it a 1000 times over.
... and btw, my Blek Monoprint looks insane on the wall!
;D
Ok, so most people on here didnt get a Dface print by the sounds of it. It was sold out before you could say 'Ooh, thats nice!'. Some people will moan, complain, throw hacking conspiracies about, but at the end of the day it really is the luck of the draw (I believe). Even if you might be a bit more IT savvy than the next man. As a solution BRP, please dont go down the cues at 5 in the morning route in an attempt to please the moaning mob. (me included) Anyone who was crazy enough to stand in the cold & confusion, for 7-8 hours for a Micallef litho late last year will tell you - it was awful and in the end not worth it. Not only was it unhealthy and badly managed, there was violence, fuelled by greed, and it left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths. It has also probably inadvertently damaged Micallefs rep as an artist - which is a real shame. BRP, you are a quality outfit who have some big shows coming up in the near future. Not getting one this time is not really going to put me or anyone off from trying again, is it now? Brap! Didn't try this time after the Walker release a while back. A queue isn't necessarily the answer as that probably wouldn't have secured you a Blek monoprint at the BRP print show. You have to be connected to get anything decent these days. Little or no chance for us plebs.
I disagree with this, although I appreciate that the Micallef experience was a bit rubbish. The beauty about queing, is that it puts 'us' in control. If you really want a print get in early, take a daytrip or time off work. Meet a few friends, chat shit and maybe learn something. I waited outside the last BRP show and although it was a long day, I'd do it a 1000 times over. ... and btw, my Blek Monoprint looks insane on the wall! ;D Ok, so most people on here didnt get a Dface print by the sounds of it. It was sold out before you could say 'Ooh, thats nice!'. Some people will moan, complain, throw hacking conspiracies about, but at the end of the day it really is the luck of the draw (I believe). Even if you might be a bit more IT savvy than the next man. As a solution BRP, please dont go down the cues at 5 in the morning route in an attempt to please the moaning mob. (me included) Anyone who was crazy enough to stand in the cold & confusion, for 7-8 hours for a Micallef litho late last year will tell you - it was awful and in the end not worth it. Not only was it unhealthy and badly managed, there was violence, fuelled by greed, and it left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths. It has also probably inadvertently damaged Micallefs rep as an artist - which is a real shame. BRP, you are a quality outfit who have some big shows coming up in the near future. Not getting one this time is not really going to put me or anyone off from trying again, is it now? Brap! Didn't try this time after the Walker release a while back. A queue isn't necessarily the answer as that probably wouldn't have secured you a Blek monoprint at the BRP print show. You have to be connected to get anything decent these days. Little or no chance for us plebs.
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thinkbank
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Message to Black Rat Press, by thinkbank on Mar 19, 2008 19:21:06 GMT 1, In an ideal world we would all queue sensibly, no one would push in and everyone who turned up early would get a print.
But we all know that in the real world, that wont be the case. As Nick Walker etc become more popular then the queue up for a print routine wont work. Its not realistic to assume that it will be ok.
Do you think if they did a Banksy queue up print release now it would go smoothly? No, it would probably end in a riot.
In an ideal world we would all queue sensibly, no one would push in and everyone who turned up early would get a print.
But we all know that in the real world, that wont be the case. As Nick Walker etc become more popular then the queue up for a print routine wont work. Its not realistic to assume that it will be ok.
Do you think if they did a Banksy queue up print release now it would go smoothly? No, it would probably end in a riot.
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kingdomcome
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Message to Black Rat Press, by kingdomcome on Mar 19, 2008 19:31:04 GMT 1, I think its speaks volumes about BRP that they posted an apology.
Dont remember anyone apologising from Laz? All I remember was them saying 'we were all in LA', so we havent got a clue what happened....
Props to BRP!
I think its speaks volumes about BRP that they posted an apology.
Dont remember anyone apologising from Laz? All I remember was them saying 'we were all in LA', so we havent got a clue what happened....
Props to BRP!
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Message to Black Rat Press, by cashman on Mar 19, 2008 19:34:46 GMT 1, I think its speaks volumes about BRP that they posted an apology. Dont remember anyone apologising from Laz? All I remember was them saying 'we were all in LA', so we havent got a clue what happened.... Props to BRP!
exactly....ive only ever had positive communication from BRP compared to Laz where ive never had a reply from a email
I think its speaks volumes about BRP that they posted an apology. Dont remember anyone apologising from Laz? All I remember was them saying 'we were all in LA', so we havent got a clue what happened.... Props to BRP! exactly....ive only ever had positive communication from BRP compared to Laz where ive never had a reply from a email
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killerkellah
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Message to Black Rat Press, by killerkellah on Mar 19, 2008 19:38:35 GMT 1, no need to apologise but thanks for giving a shit about the people who buy your prints!
you cant help it if the work is so popular.
nice one!
no need to apologise but thanks for giving a shit about the people who buy your prints!
you cant help it if the work is so popular.
nice one!
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headzup
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Message to Black Rat Press, by headzup on Mar 19, 2008 19:38:50 GMT 1, art isn't art anymore to lots of people - it's a symbol of would be wealth. flippers love 'em or hate 'em they are the estate agents of the game and they drive the game. yes, urban art is hip but when demand outstrips supply this is what happens. what can brp do? q - no thanks, increase the price - yes please, or do the same - probably......
art isn't art anymore to lots of people - it's a symbol of would be wealth. flippers love 'em or hate 'em they are the estate agents of the game and they drive the game. yes, urban art is hip but when demand outstrips supply this is what happens. what can brp do? q - no thanks, increase the price - yes please, or do the same - probably......
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Message to Black Rat Press, by dogant on Mar 19, 2008 19:50:31 GMT 1, I disagree with this, although I appreciate that the Micallef experience was a bit rubbish. The beauty about queing, is that it puts 'us' in control. If you really want a print get in early, take a daytrip or time off work. Meet a few friends, chat s**t and maybe learn something. I waited outside the last BRP show and although it was a long day, I'd do it a 1000 times over. ... and btw, my Blek Monoprint looks insane on the wall! ;D Didn't try this time after the Walker release a while back. A queue isn't necessarily the answer as that probably wouldn't have secured you a Blek monoprint at the BRP print show. You have to be connected to get anything decent these days. Little or no chance for us plebs.
2 true Jaimes - give me a Q anytime. At least you know where you are, what chance you have and where the art is going.
BRING BACK QING - I LOVE IT.
Ps. Hi Jaimes - Sorry I missed you at TLSG Beejoir show - too much booze and forgot to ring you!
I disagree with this, although I appreciate that the Micallef experience was a bit rubbish. The beauty about queing, is that it puts 'us' in control. If you really want a print get in early, take a daytrip or time off work. Meet a few friends, chat s**t and maybe learn something. I waited outside the last BRP show and although it was a long day, I'd do it a 1000 times over. ... and btw, my Blek Monoprint looks insane on the wall! ;D Didn't try this time after the Walker release a while back. A queue isn't necessarily the answer as that probably wouldn't have secured you a Blek monoprint at the BRP print show. You have to be connected to get anything decent these days. Little or no chance for us plebs. 2 true Jaimes - give me a Q anytime. At least you know where you are, what chance you have and where the art is going. BRING BACK QING - I LOVE IT. Ps. Hi Jaimes - Sorry I missed you at TLSG Beejoir show - too much booze and forgot to ring you!
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beau
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Message to Black Rat Press, by beau on Mar 19, 2008 20:04:06 GMT 1, Props (?!?!)
Props (?!?!)
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Message to Black Rat Press, by fatherxmas on Mar 19, 2008 20:05:20 GMT 1, headsup: is 110% correct
headsup: is 110% correct
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kingdomcome
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Message to Black Rat Press, by kingdomcome on Mar 19, 2008 20:12:24 GMT 1, agreed Santa.
agreed Santa.
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Message to Black Rat Press, by alsbabar on Mar 19, 2008 20:15:30 GMT 1, hang on didnt some of you complain about the queuing at the last BRP show, like people pushing in, etc?
hang on didnt some of you complain about the queuing at the last BRP show, like people pushing in, etc?
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Message to Black Rat Press, by insite on Mar 19, 2008 20:17:54 GMT 1, Ok, so most people on here didnt get a Dface print by the sounds of it. It was sold out before you could say 'Ooh, thats nice!'. Some people will moan, complain, throw hacking conspiracies about, but at the end of the day it really is the luck of the draw (I believe). Even if you might be a bit more IT savvy than the next man. As a solution BRP, please dont go down the cues at 5 in the morning route in an attempt to please the moaning mob. (me included) Anyone who was crazy enough to stand in the cold & confusion, for 7-8 hours for a Micallef litho late last year will tell you - it was awful and in the end not worth it. Not only was it unhealthy and badly managed, there was violence, fuelled by greed, and it left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths. It has also probably inadvertently damaged Micallefs rep as an artist - which is a real shame. BRP, you are a quality outfit who have some big shows coming up in the near future. Not getting one this time is not really going to put me or anyone off from trying again, is it now? Brap! Didn't try this time after the Walker release a while back. A queue isn't necessarily the answer as that probably wouldn't have secured you a Blek monoprint at the BRP print show. You have to be connected to get anything decent these days. Little or no chance for us plebs.
Well that's how I ended up with a Blek monoprint on my wall by queuing, or are you infering that I lied about how I got it ?
Ok, so most people on here didnt get a Dface print by the sounds of it. It was sold out before you could say 'Ooh, thats nice!'. Some people will moan, complain, throw hacking conspiracies about, but at the end of the day it really is the luck of the draw (I believe). Even if you might be a bit more IT savvy than the next man. As a solution BRP, please dont go down the cues at 5 in the morning route in an attempt to please the moaning mob. (me included) Anyone who was crazy enough to stand in the cold & confusion, for 7-8 hours for a Micallef litho late last year will tell you - it was awful and in the end not worth it. Not only was it unhealthy and badly managed, there was violence, fuelled by greed, and it left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths. It has also probably inadvertently damaged Micallefs rep as an artist - which is a real shame. BRP, you are a quality outfit who have some big shows coming up in the near future. Not getting one this time is not really going to put me or anyone off from trying again, is it now? Brap! Didn't try this time after the Walker release a while back. A queue isn't necessarily the answer as that probably wouldn't have secured you a Blek monoprint at the BRP print show. You have to be connected to get anything decent these days. Little or no chance for us plebs. Well that's how I ended up with a Blek monoprint on my wall by queuing, or are you infering that I lied about how I got it ?
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Message to Black Rat Press, by jonpud on Mar 19, 2008 20:19:33 GMT 1, I disagree with this, although I appreciate that the Micallef experience was a bit rubbish. The beauty about queing, is that it puts 'us' in control. If you really want a print get in early, take a daytrip or time off work. Meet a few friends, chat s**t and maybe learn something. I waited outside the last BRP show and although it was a long day, I'd do it a 1000 times over. ... and btw, my Blek Monoprint looks insane on the wall! ;D 2 true Jaimes - give me a Q anytime. At least you know where you are, what chance you have and where the art is going. BRING BACK QING - I LOVE IT. Ps. Hi Jaimes - Sorry I missed you at TLSG Beejoir show - too much booze and forgot to ring you! You don't know where you are if it's organized by Laz!! Wives, girlfriends, grannies turning up and then some welsh actor who at the end of the day is better than us mere mortals! (who incidently could have bought his set from flippers for twice the price and it would have just been like us dropping a penny in the street!!)
I disagree with this, although I appreciate that the Micallef experience was a bit rubbish. The beauty about queing, is that it puts 'us' in control. If you really want a print get in early, take a daytrip or time off work. Meet a few friends, chat s**t and maybe learn something. I waited outside the last BRP show and although it was a long day, I'd do it a 1000 times over. ... and btw, my Blek Monoprint looks insane on the wall! ;D 2 true Jaimes - give me a Q anytime. At least you know where you are, what chance you have and where the art is going. BRING BACK QING - I LOVE IT. Ps. Hi Jaimes - Sorry I missed you at TLSG Beejoir show - too much booze and forgot to ring you! You don't know where you are if it's organized by Laz!! Wives, girlfriends, grannies turning up and then some welsh actor who at the end of the day is better than us mere mortals! (who incidently could have bought his set from flippers for twice the price and it would have just been like us dropping a penny in the street!!)
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kingdomcome
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Message to Black Rat Press, by kingdomcome on Mar 19, 2008 20:21:48 GMT 1, are people looking at Q's through rose tinted specs?
I dont remember it being much fun. Even the recent Beejoir one was a pain the arse, people pushing in etc.....
It seems the bigger the artist, the more 'aggressive' people become in their attempts to get their work.....
PS....Which Welsh actor are we talking about???
are people looking at Q's through rose tinted specs?
I dont remember it being much fun. Even the recent Beejoir one was a pain the arse, people pushing in etc.....
It seems the bigger the artist, the more 'aggressive' people become in their attempts to get their work.....
PS....Which Welsh actor are we talking about???
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pezlow
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January 2007
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Message to Black Rat Press, by pezlow on Mar 19, 2008 21:20:10 GMT 1, Fair play BRP for coming on here and making an apology that wasn't necessary. Just one point - next time can you call the page with the print on it something that is not guessable - like d****faceghjdhgjksstreetimprovejfkjsdlf3
Something like that would stop a lot of people with the software being able to automatically add to basket.
Fair play BRP for coming on here and making an apology that wasn't necessary. Just one point - next time can you call the page with the print on it something that is not guessable - like d****faceghjdhgjksstreetimprovejfkjsdlf3
Something like that would stop a lot of people with the software being able to automatically add to basket.
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