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Eduardo Da Silva, by shower on Feb 25, 2008 17:14:49 GMT 1, he did not mean the tackle, it was shocking but he didnt mean it. a 3 game ban and the result of the challenge playing on his mind is enough punishment. everyone has miss timed a tackle before, many much worse than this! it was an accident!
he did not mean the tackle, it was shocking but he didnt mean it. a 3 game ban and the result of the challenge playing on his mind is enough punishment. everyone has miss timed a tackle before, many much worse than this! it was an accident!
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Eduardo Da Silva, by colonelkurtz on Feb 25, 2008 17:47:51 GMT 1, Personnally, don't believe it was an accident. He went to bring down Eduardo, but didn't mean to break his leg (obviously). There is more the vast gap between the bottom of the league and the top, and thus the skill of the players.
Eduardo is extremly quick and skillful player that isn't really established so Taylor didn't think about his challenge to much, just wanted to stop him from going past. You wouldn't see him doing that to Rooney.
The premiership has a way of regulating itself. Taylor won't play in it again! Take that Man C matey who nailed the other guy (you guess i can't remember the names!).
Same here.. he'll be sold in the closed season and be picked up by someone in the championship.
Not banded for life from football... just the premiership.
Personnally, don't believe it was an accident. He went to bring down Eduardo, but didn't mean to break his leg (obviously). There is more the vast gap between the bottom of the league and the top, and thus the skill of the players.
Eduardo is extremly quick and skillful player that isn't really established so Taylor didn't think about his challenge to much, just wanted to stop him from going past. You wouldn't see him doing that to Rooney.
The premiership has a way of regulating itself. Taylor won't play in it again! Take that Man C matey who nailed the other guy (you guess i can't remember the names!).
Same here.. he'll be sold in the closed season and be picked up by someone in the championship.
Not banded for life from football... just the premiership.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by manchestermike on Feb 25, 2008 17:55:07 GMT 1, Personnally, don't believe it was an accident. He went to bring down Eduardo, but didn't mean to break his leg (obviously). There is more the vast gap between the bottom of the league and the top, and thus the skill of the players. Eduardo is extremly quick and skillful player that isn't really established so Taylor didn't think about his challenge to much, just wanted to stop him from going past. You wouldn't see him doing that to Rooney. The premiership has a way of regulating itself. Taylor won't play in it again! Take that Man C matey who nailed the other guy (you guess i can't remember the names!). Same here.. he'll be sold in the closed season and be picked up by someone in the championship. Not banded for life from football... just the premiership.
I disagree, he'll play again for Birmingham this season, the only way he'll be in the Championship next season is if Birmingham go down (which they won't)
Personnally, don't believe it was an accident. He went to bring down Eduardo, but didn't mean to break his leg (obviously). There is more the vast gap between the bottom of the league and the top, and thus the skill of the players. Eduardo is extremly quick and skillful player that isn't really established so Taylor didn't think about his challenge to much, just wanted to stop him from going past. You wouldn't see him doing that to Rooney. The premiership has a way of regulating itself. Taylor won't play in it again! Take that Man C matey who nailed the other guy (you guess i can't remember the names!). Same here.. he'll be sold in the closed season and be picked up by someone in the championship. Not banded for life from football... just the premiership. I disagree, he'll play again for Birmingham this season, the only way he'll be in the Championship next season is if Birmingham go down (which they won't)
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Eduardo Da Silva, by colonelkurtz on Feb 25, 2008 18:02:48 GMT 1, yeah, you might be right. Only time will tell! Interesting to see how he shapes up if he does play next week (got to play in the mind a little)
yeah, you might be right. Only time will tell! Interesting to see how he shapes up if he does play next week (got to play in the mind a little)
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Eduardo Da Silva, by veralynn on Feb 25, 2008 19:29:36 GMT 1, My view is that there's no way one professional player intends to do that to another but the fact remains that its not uncommon for man markers to 'let the other guy know they're about' and this is what happened here with disastrous results. Its acknowledged that Taylor isn't a dirty player and the photos posted don't paint a picture of someone who apparently went to see Eduardo in hospital (this isn't a PR exercise surely) to apologise. Eduardo's a great player due back by Christmas. I'm no Gooner (WHU) but I love watching Arsenal play total football under the genius that is Arsene Wenger.
My view is that there's no way one professional player intends to do that to another but the fact remains that its not uncommon for man markers to 'let the other guy know they're about' and this is what happened here with disastrous results. Its acknowledged that Taylor isn't a dirty player and the photos posted don't paint a picture of someone who apparently went to see Eduardo in hospital (this isn't a PR exercise surely) to apologise. Eduardo's a great player due back by Christmas. I'm no Gooner (WHU) but I love watching Arsenal play total football under the genius that is Arsene Wenger.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Va Va Voom on Feb 25, 2008 23:07:47 GMT 1, other myself and Pez who else goes to the Arsenal, perhaps we should arrange to meet up, pre game beers?
Block 30 Lower tier......easier to meet n greet at Beejoir this thursday Wonder how Fergie would have reacted had this happened to Ronaldo..?
other myself and Pez who else goes to the Arsenal, perhaps we should arrange to meet up, pre game beers? Block 30 Lower tier......easier to meet n greet at Beejoir this thursday Wonder how Fergie would have reacted had this happened to Ronaldo..?
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Nuno on Feb 25, 2008 23:09:13 GMT 1, im afraid you cant compare ronaldo to eduardo in any context...
im afraid you cant compare ronaldo to eduardo in any context...
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Va Va Voom on Feb 25, 2008 23:24:09 GMT 1, im afraid you cant compare ronaldo to eduardo in any context... Think you are missing the point here...
im afraid you cant compare ronaldo to eduardo in any context... Think you are missing the point here...
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Nuno on Feb 25, 2008 23:36:07 GMT 1, im not missing the point.
i understand that its an horrific injury, and unpleasant for all concerned.
Eduardo to arsenal is not the same as ronaldo to man utd, so whilst it the injury and grief caused would be the same, the net effect to the team would be entirally different imo.
Check out the interview on sky sports with alec mcleish, he said he used to tackle like that all the time, as whinces at some tackles he sees, but did not bat an eyelid at that one.
im not missing the point.
i understand that its an horrific injury, and unpleasant for all concerned.
Eduardo to arsenal is not the same as ronaldo to man utd, so whilst it the injury and grief caused would be the same, the net effect to the team would be entirally different imo.
Check out the interview on sky sports with alec mcleish, he said he used to tackle like that all the time, as whinces at some tackles he sees, but did not bat an eyelid at that one.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Va Va Voom on Feb 26, 2008 0:06:57 GMT 1, The point was never who was more valuable to his side.My question was to ask how Fergie would have reacted had this happened to Ronaldo. Wenger was criticised for his initial reaction to the challenge,which he later retracted.Do you think that Fergie would have been any less scathing in his response?
The point was never who was more valuable to his side.My question was to ask how Fergie would have reacted had this happened to Ronaldo. Wenger was criticised for his initial reaction to the challenge,which he later retracted.Do you think that Fergie would have been any less scathing in his response?
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Nuno on Feb 26, 2008 0:11:45 GMT 1, fair enough.
im not sure what SAF would have said. But fair play to AW for retracting his original statement.
fair enough.
im not sure what SAF would have said. But fair play to AW for retracting his original statement.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Va Va Voom on Feb 26, 2008 0:19:22 GMT 1, Also mick take a look at the image on page 1 of this thread,the one that shows the tackle that McLeish didnt flinch at...A 6 ft plus lump launching mid shin onto a leg taking a players full weight..makes me wince !! I do not believe that he meant to injure Eduardo,but it is a bad tackle.
Also mick take a look at the image on page 1 of this thread,the one that shows the tackle that McLeish didnt flinch at...A 6 ft plus lump launching mid shin onto a leg taking a players full weight..makes me wince !! I do not believe that he meant to injure Eduardo,but it is a bad tackle.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Nuno on Feb 26, 2008 0:26:21 GMT 1, Not a nice tackle.
But it is one footed, his trailing leg is where it should be. I think you can only argue that it is 1) mistimed, and 2)above ball height, probably because of reason 1.
Sad, but one thing is for certain, eduardo is not the first and will not be the last.
Not a nice tackle.
But it is one footed, his trailing leg is where it should be. I think you can only argue that it is 1) mistimed, and 2)above ball height, probably because of reason 1.
Sad, but one thing is for certain, eduardo is not the first and will not be the last.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by la on Feb 26, 2008 0:36:49 GMT 1, Macleish is quite close to Furgeson and obviously he was given some advise before the game. You can bet the team talk before the game was to be extra physical towards the Arsenal players. His foot was too high for my liking.
Macleish is quite close to Furgeson and obviously he was given some advise before the game. You can bet the team talk before the game was to be extra physical towards the Arsenal players. His foot was too high for my liking.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 26, 2008 0:42:16 GMT 1, I honestly think it was just mistimed, it wasn't "off the ground" a sec earlier there would have been contact with the top of the ball. I've gone to the game for 35 years and on first look just thought it was a freekick. When I was watching I didn't in the first instance think it was particularly late. I agree the pictures look horrific and the injury is devastating but I honestly believe after all these years of watching it wasn't malicious just mistimed and extremely unfortunate. Lets hope the lad makes a full recovery and can resume a full career.
I honestly think it was just mistimed, it wasn't "off the ground" a sec earlier there would have been contact with the top of the ball. I've gone to the game for 35 years and on first look just thought it was a freekick. When I was watching I didn't in the first instance think it was particularly late. I agree the pictures look horrific and the injury is devastating but I honestly believe after all these years of watching it wasn't malicious just mistimed and extremely unfortunate. Lets hope the lad makes a full recovery and can resume a full career.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Yessir on Feb 26, 2008 1:16:46 GMT 1, I'm a Spurs fan and I can honestly say Eduardo's injury has put me on a real downer (even after the cup win) .
I think Taylor went in high and with studs showing, so in my opinion he defiantly had some intent to hurt or rough Eduardo up "early on" in the game to let him know "he was about" (although I not going to say he intended to break Eduardo's leg)
Ultimately I think players like Taylor (coca cola championship standard type player) make up for their lack of talent by "putting themselves about" when it comes to competing with the more talented players e.g. C Ronaldo, Hleb and Joe Cole are up there with the most fouled players in the premier league.
I think we need to get rid of yellow cards and introduce 15 min sin-bins.
Players who commit serious foul play = red card + 5 game ban
P.S Get well Eduardo.... all the best mate
I'm a Spurs fan and I can honestly say Eduardo's injury has put me on a real downer (even after the cup win) . I think Taylor went in high and with studs showing, so in my opinion he defiantly had some intent to hurt or rough Eduardo up "early on" in the game to let him know "he was about" (although I not going to say he intended to break Eduardo's leg) Ultimately I think players like Taylor (coca cola championship standard type player) make up for their lack of talent by "putting themselves about" when it comes to competing with the more talented players e.g. C Ronaldo, Hleb and Joe Cole are up there with the most fouled players in the premier league. I think we need to get rid of yellow cards and introduce 15 min sin-bins. Players who commit serious foul play = red card + 5 game ban P.S Get well Eduardo.... all the best mate
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Daz on Feb 26, 2008 1:53:28 GMT 1, scum?? 5-1 ring a bell ?? ;D
scum?? 5-1 ring a bell ?? ;D
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Daz on Feb 26, 2008 2:22:33 GMT 1, Back from watching us pick up a bit of silverware. You ?? ;D
Back from watching us pick up a bit of silverware. You ?? ;D
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Daz on Feb 26, 2008 2:27:37 GMT 1, Rooting for MM Watch this space ! ;D
Rooting for MM Watch this space ! ;D
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Heavyconsumer on Feb 26, 2008 2:35:52 GMT 1, Times are a changing! The red half of North London may play the best football around right now and deservedly be at the top of the table, but the gap's been closing for some time. In fact there have been numerous occasions in recent seasons where they've been very lucky to get results against the Spurs. Even honest gooners admit this. There will surely be less to gloat about in the coming few seasons, now that we have a manager capable of mixing it with the likes of the top 4 clubs.
Times are a changing! The red half of North London may play the best football around right now and deservedly be at the top of the table, but the gap's been closing for some time. In fact there have been numerous occasions in recent seasons where they've been very lucky to get results against the Spurs. Even honest gooners admit this. There will surely be less to gloat about in the coming few seasons, now that we have a manager capable of mixing it with the likes of the top 4 clubs.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Daz on Feb 26, 2008 2:39:16 GMT 1, well said
well said
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Eduardo Da Silva, by pezlow on Feb 26, 2008 7:33:53 GMT 1, Times are a changing! The red half of North London may play the best football around right now and deservedly be at the top of the table, but the gap's been closing for some time. In fact there have been numerous occasions in recent seasons where they've been very lucky to get results against the Spurs. Even honest gooners admit this. There will surely be less to gloat about in the coming few seasons, now that we have a manager capable of mixing it with the likes of the top 4 clubs.
Funniest thing I have read on here for ages. I knew that spurs fans were delusional but this takes the biscuit.
Times are a changing! The red half of North London may play the best football around right now and deservedly be at the top of the table, but the gap's been closing for some time. In fact there have been numerous occasions in recent seasons where they've been very lucky to get results against the Spurs. Even honest gooners admit this. There will surely be less to gloat about in the coming few seasons, now that we have a manager capable of mixing it with the likes of the top 4 clubs. Funniest thing I have read on here for ages. I knew that spurs fans were delusional but this takes the biscuit.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by mcster on Feb 26, 2008 8:54:14 GMT 1, The problem with the Eduardo tackle (speaking as another season ticket holder at the Emirates), besides the obvious, hideous, injury, is that it sums up how other teams are told to play us. There is certainly a 'kick Arsenal in the air' attitude from other teams. I doubt the guy meant to permanently injur Dudu, there surely can't be that many truely nasty players in the Prem, but it's without doubt he wanted to give him a dig. What bugs me is that if it was Eboue who had done that to, for instance, Rooney, he would never live it down. Because Taylor is English, it seems he is somehow more likely to be innocent. Double standards. Congrats to Spuds for Winning the Carling Cup, but I wouldn't get too carried away just yet, especially after all the waffle we heard from you lot about displacing us in the top four which clearly will not happen in the foreseeable future if at all !
The problem with the Eduardo tackle (speaking as another season ticket holder at the Emirates), besides the obvious, hideous, injury, is that it sums up how other teams are told to play us. There is certainly a 'kick Arsenal in the air' attitude from other teams. I doubt the guy meant to permanently injur Dudu, there surely can't be that many truely nasty players in the Prem, but it's without doubt he wanted to give him a dig. What bugs me is that if it was Eboue who had done that to, for instance, Rooney, he would never live it down. Because Taylor is English, it seems he is somehow more likely to be innocent. Double standards. Congrats to Spuds for Winning the Carling Cup, but I wouldn't get too carried away just yet, especially after all the waffle we heard from you lot about displacing us in the top four which clearly will not happen in the foreseeable future if at all !
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Eduardo Da Silva, by manchestermike on Feb 26, 2008 10:23:41 GMT 1, Players who commit serious foul play = red card + 5 game ban
The issue there is, the tackle was not serious foul play. If Eduardo got up there would have been a yellow card...
The problem with the Eduardo tackle (speaking as another season ticket holder at the Emirates), besides the obvious, hideous, injury, is that it sums up how other teams are told to play us. There is certainly a 'kick Arsenal in the air' attitude from other teams. I doubt the guy meant to permanently injur Dudu, there surely can't be that many truely nasty players in the Prem, but it's without doubt he wanted to give him a dig. What bugs me is that if it was Eboue who had done that to, for instance, Rooney, he would never live it down. Because Taylor is English, it seems he is somehow more likely to be innocent. Double standards. Congrats to Spuds for Winning the Carling Cup, but I wouldn't get too carried away just yet, especially after all the waffle we heard from you lot about displacing us in the top four which clearly will not happen in the foreseeable future if at all !
Have a look 3.20 minutes into this video (just fast forward it to the right bit)...
...then tell me about kicking people in the air...
What was Eduardo's intent there? Surely his thoughts weren't about the ball?
Players who commit serious foul play = red card + 5 game ban The issue there is, the tackle was not serious foul play. If Eduardo got up there would have been a yellow card... The problem with the Eduardo tackle (speaking as another season ticket holder at the Emirates), besides the obvious, hideous, injury, is that it sums up how other teams are told to play us. There is certainly a 'kick Arsenal in the air' attitude from other teams. I doubt the guy meant to permanently injur Dudu, there surely can't be that many truely nasty players in the Prem, but it's without doubt he wanted to give him a dig. What bugs me is that if it was Eboue who had done that to, for instance, Rooney, he would never live it down. Because Taylor is English, it seems he is somehow more likely to be innocent. Double standards. Congrats to Spuds for Winning the Carling Cup, but I wouldn't get too carried away just yet, especially after all the waffle we heard from you lot about displacing us in the top four which clearly will not happen in the foreseeable future if at all ! Have a look 3.20 minutes into this video (just fast forward it to the right bit)... ...then tell me about kicking people in the air... What was Eduardo's intent there? Surely his thoughts weren't about the ball?
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Eduardo Da Silva, by manchestermike on Feb 26, 2008 10:53:23 GMT 1, we all know strikers cant tackle - so its like comparing apples to oranges
Not at all... defender or attacker they're all professional footballers... it's comparing intent and how dangerous it is...
I wonder if Eduardo is a religious man...?
we all know strikers cant tackle - so its like comparing apples to oranges Not at all... defender or attacker they're all professional footballers... it's comparing intent and how dangerous it is... I wonder if Eduardo is a religious man...?
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Eduardo Da Silva, by Va Va Voom on Feb 26, 2008 14:06:10 GMT 1, Think we should put this subject to bed now...else we will be bringing up video of the Nevilles kicking 10 bells out of Reyes a few seasons ago... Bad tackle,not deliberate.Lets hope Eduardo is running around before the year is out.
Think we should put this subject to bed now...else we will be bringing up video of the Nevilles kicking 10 bells out of Reyes a few seasons ago... Bad tackle,not deliberate.Lets hope Eduardo is running around before the year is out.
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Eduardo Da Silva, by manchestermike on Feb 26, 2008 14:06:59 GMT 1, Think we should put this subject to bed now...else we will be bringing up video of the Nevilles kicking 10 bells out of Reyes a few seasons ago... Bad tackle,not deliberate.Lets hope Eduardo is running around before the year is out.
100% correct
Think we should put this subject to bed now...else we will be bringing up video of the Nevilles kicking 10 bells out of Reyes a few seasons ago... Bad tackle,not deliberate.Lets hope Eduardo is running around before the year is out. 100% correct
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Eduardo Da Silva, by daveanthony28 on Feb 26, 2008 14:15:49 GMT 1, Looks like he'll be back on a football field within 12 months showing his silky skills again. I have the upmost respect for the comment's he made on the Arsenal website. Show's he is a true gentleman.
Looks like he'll be back on a football field within 12 months showing his silky skills again. I have the upmost respect for the comment's he made on the Arsenal website. Show's he is a true gentleman.
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