dispatch
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Creased Print from POW, by dispatch on Dec 31, 2007 0:23:52 GMT 1, Hi, I just received my second Banksy from POW and it's slightly creased at the bottom. I was wondering what you guys/girls think I should do. I don't have much experience or knowledge about POW's standard operating procedure.
-Should I just man up and accept it as is?
-Contact POW about it and have it replaced or something similar.
Terrible picture taking with the cell. The crease is noticeable under the soldier's right foot (our left).
TIA.
Oh, I am in the US. Makes things ever so slightly more difficult.
Hi, I just received my second Banksy from POW and it's slightly creased at the bottom. I was wondering what you guys/girls think I should do. I don't have much experience or knowledge about POW's standard operating procedure. -Should I just man up and accept it as is? -Contact POW about it and have it replaced or something similar. Terrible picture taking with the cell. The crease is noticeable under the soldier's right foot (our left). TIA. Oh, I am in the US. Makes things ever so slightly more difficult. |
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redfred
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Creased Print from POW, by redfred on Dec 31, 2007 0:36:55 GMT 1, Its not noticeable to me from the pic. but POW are excellent at replacements, considering where you are I would try putting a light weight on it on a flat surface to see if it will relax out before sending it back to the UK, take into consideration shipping costs etc. Ive had prints with slight ripples that have been alright after a day or so.
Its not noticeable to me from the pic. but POW are excellent at replacements, considering where you are I would try putting a light weight on it on a flat surface to see if it will relax out before sending it back to the UK, take into consideration shipping costs etc. Ive had prints with slight ripples that have been alright after a day or so.
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carl
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Creased Print from POW, by carl on Dec 31, 2007 0:45:42 GMT 1, Send it back. It will bother you forever.
Send it back. It will bother you forever.
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G-Man
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Creased Print from POW, by G-Man on Dec 31, 2007 12:10:15 GMT 1, Contact them and see what they think, they are usually relly cool bout stuff like this
Contact them and see what they think, they are usually relly cool bout stuff like this
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klyde
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Creased Print from POW, by klyde on Dec 31, 2007 12:25:01 GMT 1, I was wondering how they replace them?
Do they need to get Banksy to sign another one, or do they have spares with no print number?
If so, how long do they keep these spares if nobody requests a replacement?
Thanks.
I was wondering how they replace them?
Do they need to get Banksy to sign another one, or do they have spares with no print number?
If so, how long do they keep these spares if nobody requests a replacement?
Thanks.
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alvington89
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Creased Print from POW, by alvington89 on Dec 31, 2007 12:33:43 GMT 1, It's a pain, but like Carl says, I would send it back for a replacement. Once it's sorted you'll forget about the hassle, whereas if you decide to begrudgingly accept the crease it will nag you forever.
It's a pain, but like Carl says, I would send it back for a replacement. Once it's sorted you'll forget about the hassle, whereas if you decide to begrudgingly accept the crease it will nag you forever.
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dodge
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Creased Print from POW, by dodge on Dec 31, 2007 16:40:18 GMT 1, Send it back mate. If it is not 100% perfect, you will think about it forever! The same thing happened with my last Micallef print from POW and they were brilliant about replacing it. E-mail them to make sure it is ok. They generally get back within a day.
Send it back mate. If it is not 100% perfect, you will think about it forever! The same thing happened with my last Micallef print from POW and they were brilliant about replacing it. E-mail them to make sure it is ok. They generally get back within a day.
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Run Pig Run
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Creased Print from POW, by Run Pig Run on Dec 31, 2007 19:42:54 GMT 1, I was wondering how they replace them? Do they need to get Banksy to sign another one, or do they have spares with no print number? If so, how long do they keep these spares if nobody requests a replacement? Thanks.
they don't keep them they sell them on ebay*
*allegedly
I was wondering how they replace them? Do they need to get Banksy to sign another one, or do they have spares with no print number? If so, how long do they keep these spares if nobody requests a replacement? Thanks. they don't keep them they sell them on ebay* *allegedly |
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Creased Print from POW, by melmoth on Dec 31, 2007 19:52:12 GMT 1, The POW web site says that the site is closed until Feb 4th. Anyone know if the whole operation is closed, or just the site?
The POW web site says that the site is closed until Feb 4th. Anyone know if the whole operation is closed, or just the site?
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hitme
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Creased Print from POW, by hitme on Dec 31, 2007 20:39:55 GMT 1, Question for you all: When it comes to "creases" on prints, how do you determine whether it is in fact a damaged print with a crease or just the nature of the deckled edges and how the paper is cut from a sheet? To me, this paper is extremely delicate on the edges and can curl up from time to time, but I also think that a lot of people who have not had deckled-edged prints before just look at it and think of it has damage very easily. What do you guys think? What actually separates the expected "torn-looking nature" of the print from a damaged one? Thanks for the help.
Question for you all: When it comes to "creases" on prints, how do you determine whether it is in fact a damaged print with a crease or just the nature of the deckled edges and how the paper is cut from a sheet? To me, this paper is extremely delicate on the edges and can curl up from time to time, but I also think that a lot of people who have not had deckled-edged prints before just look at it and think of it has damage very easily. What do you guys think? What actually separates the expected "torn-looking nature" of the print from a damaged one? Thanks for the help.
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solar77
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Creased Print from POW, by solar77 on Jan 1, 2008 2:36:23 GMT 1, Question for you all: When it comes to "creases" on prints, how do you determine whether it is in fact a damaged print with a crease or just the nature of the deckled edges and how the paper is cut from a sheet? To me, this paper is extremely delicate on the edges and can curl up from time to time, but I also think that a lot of people who have not had deckled-edged prints before just look at it and think of it has damage very easily. What do you guys think? What actually separates the expected "torn-looking nature" of the print from a damaged one? Thanks for the help.
Yeah, I just received my first Banksy prints (Trollies and SAS) and noticed small creases between the tears of the deckled edges. Since they were well packed I figure that's just the way the deckled edge reacts to being rolled in a tube for weeks. I'm not too worried about it.
Question for you all: When it comes to "creases" on prints, how do you determine whether it is in fact a damaged print with a crease or just the nature of the deckled edges and how the paper is cut from a sheet? To me, this paper is extremely delicate on the edges and can curl up from time to time, but I also think that a lot of people who have not had deckled-edged prints before just look at it and think of it has damage very easily. What do you guys think? What actually separates the expected "torn-looking nature" of the print from a damaged one? Thanks for the help. Yeah, I just received my first Banksy prints (Trollies and SAS) and noticed small creases between the tears of the deckled edges. Since they were well packed I figure that's just the way the deckled edge reacts to being rolled in a tube for weeks. I'm not too worried about it. |
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thetruth55
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Creased Print from POW, by thetruth55 on Jan 3, 2008 5:05:23 GMT 1, Question for you all: When it comes to "creases" on prints, how do you determine whether it is in fact a damaged print with a crease or just the nature of the deckled edges and how the paper is cut from a sheet? To me, this paper is extremely delicate on the edges and can curl up from time to time, but I also think that a lot of people who have not had deckled-edged prints before just look at it and think of it has damage very easily. What do you guys think? What actually separates the expected "torn-looking nature" of the print from a damaged one? Thanks for the help. Yeah, I just received my first Banksy prints (Trollies and SAS) and noticed small creases between the tears of the deckled edges. Since they were well packed I figure that's just the way the deckled edge reacts to being rolled in a tube for weeks. I'm not too worried about it.
can you post pics of your creases? i'm wondering as well. Mine came perfectly wrapped and had kraft paper so i don't see them as being anything other than how they were cut, rolled, etc.
i'm curious if anyone else has more insight as to what is normal or to be expected with these deckled edges in regards to "damage" or just "natural."
thanks in advance.
Question for you all: When it comes to "creases" on prints, how do you determine whether it is in fact a damaged print with a crease or just the nature of the deckled edges and how the paper is cut from a sheet? To me, this paper is extremely delicate on the edges and can curl up from time to time, but I also think that a lot of people who have not had deckled-edged prints before just look at it and think of it has damage very easily. What do you guys think? What actually separates the expected "torn-looking nature" of the print from a damaged one? Thanks for the help. Yeah, I just received my first Banksy prints (Trollies and SAS) and noticed small creases between the tears of the deckled edges. Since they were well packed I figure that's just the way the deckled edge reacts to being rolled in a tube for weeks. I'm not too worried about it. can you post pics of your creases? i'm wondering as well. Mine came perfectly wrapped and had kraft paper so i don't see them as being anything other than how they were cut, rolled, etc. i'm curious if anyone else has more insight as to what is normal or to be expected with these deckled edges in regards to "damage" or just "natural." thanks in advance. |
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Creased Print from POW, by darjeeling on Jan 3, 2008 5:20:56 GMT 1, Are you talking about the bump along the edge of the paper? Or is there a crease that can't be seen in the pic? If you're just talking about a bump along the edge of the paper I'd just forget about it personally. I think this kind of paper is a little prone to that anyway. My trolley had a similar bump. Don't care, as long as the crease isn't more in the image area of the print. If that were the case I'd send it back. If it makes it all the way over here from across the pond with only a slight bump along the edge I'd breath a huge sigh of relief.
And not cracking on you but I do find it funny how many people on this forum are so particular about having absolutely pristine and perfect condition prints. I mean we are talking about "street art" here. "street art?" Ephemeral, dirty, gritty in nature. Kind of funny how anal we can be about condition when the art is on paper not a wall.
Are you talking about the bump along the edge of the paper? Or is there a crease that can't be seen in the pic? If you're just talking about a bump along the edge of the paper I'd just forget about it personally. I think this kind of paper is a little prone to that anyway. My trolley had a similar bump. Don't care, as long as the crease isn't more in the image area of the print. If that were the case I'd send it back. If it makes it all the way over here from across the pond with only a slight bump along the edge I'd breath a huge sigh of relief.
And not cracking on you but I do find it funny how many people on this forum are so particular about having absolutely pristine and perfect condition prints. I mean we are talking about "street art" here. "street art?" Ephemeral, dirty, gritty in nature. Kind of funny how anal we can be about condition when the art is on paper not a wall.
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dispatch
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Creased Print from POW, by dispatch on Feb 3, 2008 6:00:22 GMT 1, So I sent it back, and got another one sent up to me. Second one seems to be in worse condition than the first.
Is this stuff just generally expected and acceptable, or am I just getting unlucky?
So I sent it back, and got another one sent up to me. Second one seems to be in worse condition than the first. Is this stuff just generally expected and acceptable, or am I just getting unlucky? |
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craigf
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Creased Print from POW, by craigf on Feb 3, 2008 9:43:18 GMT 1, Looks like just where the sheet has been torn off so personally I wouldn't be concerned (if it wasn't a torn edge print I'd think differently as it should be a perfect straight edge)
Looks like just where the sheet has been torn off so personally I wouldn't be concerned (if it wasn't a torn edge print I'd think differently as it should be a perfect straight edge)
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wimpy
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Creased Print from POW, by wimpy on Feb 3, 2008 10:01:47 GMT 1, Are you people being serious?
Those edges are SUPER fragile.
You can't expect the deckle not to have a single mm tear somewhere or be folded in a bit. It is paper, after all, and quite maleable. How do you think they do the stamp? Printing papers are meant to give for so many reasons (callography, intaglio, embossing, etc). You have to realize that the majority of the time this type of paper is used is in a press and soaking wet, too.
As far as the sheet being torn, that last pic is exactly that. They tear it like that for a reason - to match the deckle. I've done it a million times and the idea is to make it look torn. 
Are you people being serious? Those edges are SUPER fragile. You can't expect the deckle not to have a single mm tear somewhere or be folded in a bit. It is paper, after all, and quite maleable. How do you think they do the stamp? Printing papers are meant to give for so many reasons (callography, intaglio, embossing, etc). You have to realize that the majority of the time this type of paper is used is in a press and soaking wet, too. As far as the sheet being torn, that last pic is exactly that. They tear it like that for a reason - to match the deckle. I've done it a million times and the idea is to make it look torn. |
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craigf
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Creased Print from POW, by craigf on Feb 3, 2008 10:02:23 GMT 1, Morning Snakes, good to see you are on form so early on a Sunday morning 
Morning Snakes, good to see you are on form so early on a Sunday morning |
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Creased Print from POW, by trebor on Feb 3, 2008 10:10:54 GMT 1, So I sent it back, and got another one sent up to me. Second one seems to be in worse condition than the first. Is this stuff just generally expected and acceptable, or am I just getting unlucky?
Are you kidding me theres almost nothing wrong with it, once its frames (which I hope it is) you won't see a thing. People are so anal these days.
So I sent it back, and got another one sent up to me. Second one seems to be in worse condition than the first. Is this stuff just generally expected and acceptable, or am I just getting unlucky? Are you kidding me theres almost nothing wrong with it, once its frames (which I hope it is) you won't see a thing. People are so anal these days. |
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Creased Print from POW, by paulypaul on Feb 3, 2008 10:11:38 GMT 1, What's 'callography'...?
I despair...
U wud spel propa if u wonted peepl to lissen...
What's 'callography'...?
I despair...
U wud spel propa if u wonted peepl to lissen...
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pagerage
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Creased Print from POW, by pagerage on Feb 3, 2008 10:21:31 GMT 1, yo, your print is completely ruined. i dont think pow will replace it for a third one. but since i am such a nice guy i will buy it off you for face. you can thank me later.
yo, your print is completely ruined. i dont think pow will replace it for a third one. but since i am such a nice guy i will buy it off you for face. you can thank me later.
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wimpy
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Creased Print from POW, by wimpy on Feb 3, 2008 10:23:00 GMT 1, I had trouble seeing your post at first because your signature is so overwhelmingly large and funny.
Sorry... an "a" instead of an "o".
One mispelled letter makes people not listen?
I had trouble seeing your post at first because your signature is so overwhelmingly large and funny. Sorry... an "a" instead of an "o". One mispelled letter makes people not listen? |
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Creased Print from POW, by paulypaul on Feb 3, 2008 10:24:52 GMT 1, One mispelled letter makes people not listen?
Thin end of the wedge, burger boy...
If we don't respect ourselves enough to communicate accurately, civilisation is at risk...
I know - I'm a p*ick, but it boils my piss...
One mispelled letter makes people not listen? Thin end of the wedge, burger boy... If we don't respect ourselves enough to communicate accurately, civilisation is at risk... I know - I'm a p*ick, but it boils my piss... |
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guest2
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Creased Print from POW, by guest2 on Feb 3, 2008 11:42:27 GMT 1, So I sent it back, and got another one sent up to me. Second one seems to be in worse condition than the first. Is this stuff just generally expected and acceptable, or am I just getting unlucky?
Do they put tissue paper at the ends yet? If not then this can cause this. Some tissue paper at either end of the tube stops this.
So I sent it back, and got another one sent up to me. Second one seems to be in worse condition than the first. Is this stuff just generally expected and acceptable, or am I just getting unlucky? Do they put tissue paper at the ends yet? If not then this can cause this. Some tissue paper at either end of the tube stops this. |
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Creased Print from POW, by jffriedman on Feb 3, 2008 15:26:41 GMT 1, I would be well pissed if this happened to me. However, I have heard from some people in the business that have been collecting prints for 50 years say that there is a certain tolerance for these types of dings. Something about minor damage outside the margin of any seals or blind-stamps is acceptable. The bottom line is, unless you are going to float it, you'll never see it in a frame.
My 2-cents
I would be well pissed if this happened to me. However, I have heard from some people in the business that have been collecting prints for 50 years say that there is a certain tolerance for these types of dings. Something about minor damage outside the margin of any seals or blind-stamps is acceptable. The bottom line is, unless you are going to float it, you'll never see it in a frame.
My 2-cents
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Creased Print from POW, by melmoth on Feb 3, 2008 15:32:57 GMT 1, Given quite how badly POW ship (though admittedly they have got a little better recently), they should have one of those 'Scratch & Dent' sales. Burlesque of North America did one recently. For $15 they sent you two prints that went a little off on the colors, there were dinks, creases, etc. Not mint, and you had no choice on what they sent you, but great value for $15.
And before anyone has a go about duplicate numbers, etc., the prints are clearly identified as S&D.
Given quite how badly POW ship (though admittedly they have got a little better recently), they should have one of those 'Scratch & Dent' sales. Burlesque of North America did one recently. For $15 they sent you two prints that went a little off on the colors, there were dinks, creases, etc. Not mint, and you had no choice on what they sent you, but great value for $15.
And before anyone has a go about duplicate numbers, etc., the prints are clearly identified as S&D.
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foundation
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Creased Print from POW, by foundation on Feb 3, 2008 15:46:49 GMT 1, Given quite how badly POW ship (though admittedly they have got a little better recently), they should have one of those 'Scratch & Dent' sales. Burlesque of North America did one recently. For $15 they sent you two prints that went a little off on the colors, there were dinks, creases, etc. Not mint, and you had no choice on what they sent you, but great value for $15. And before anyone has a go about duplicate numbers, etc., the prints are clearly identified as S&D.
Given quite how badly POW ship (though admittedly they have got a little better recently), they should have one of those 'Scratch & Dent' sales. Burlesque of North America did one recently. For $15 they sent you two prints that went a little off on the colors, there were dinks, creases, etc. Not mint, and you had no choice on what they sent you, but great value for $15. And before anyone has a go about duplicate numbers, etc., the prints are clearly identified as S&D. nice idea |
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Creased Print from POW, by bobbymeachamjr on Feb 3, 2008 18:19:43 GMT 1, There was nothing wrong with the first one if I'm seeing all there is to see?
There was nothing wrong with the first one if I'm seeing all there is to see?
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dispatch
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Creased Print from POW, by dispatch on Feb 4, 2008 5:34:52 GMT 1, The picture of the first one was taken using a cell phone camera. I couldn't properly zoom up the on the edge.
The damage on my first print is similar to the the second picture I posted.
The picture of the first one was taken using a cell phone camera. I couldn't properly zoom up the on the edge.
The damage on my first print is similar to the the second picture I posted.
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