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Is this really worth £10K, by alsbabar on Jan 27, 2008 16:32:07 GMT 1, with no proof of provenance, is this item on ebay really worth £10k?
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150210033235
I would say not, no one can prove it is an actual Banksy, therefore, IMHO it isnt worth anything, what do you guys think?
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romanywg
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Is this really worth £10K, by romanywg on Jan 27, 2008 16:34:36 GMT 1, In my mind it isn't worth £10. Why would Banksy put rats on a fridge in all four corners? Not great placement.
In my mind it isn't worth £10. Why would Banksy put rats on a fridge in all four corners? Not great placement.
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Is this really worth £10K, by alsbabar on Jan 27, 2008 16:39:06 GMT 1, i personally think its a pisstake to try and demand this kind of money with no provenance
i also think its a pisstake to sell it
i personally think its a pisstake to try and demand this kind of money with no provenance
i also think its a pisstake to sell it
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Is this really worth £10K, by graeme501 on Jan 27, 2008 16:39:53 GMT 1, does it still work ? would add 2 value if it did ;D
does it still work ? would add 2 value if it did ;D
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Is this really worth £10K, by alsbabar on Jan 27, 2008 16:40:50 GMT 1, lol graeme
only if its stuffed with beers
lol graeme
only if its stuffed with beers
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Is this really worth £10K, by alsbabar on Jan 27, 2008 16:42:34 GMT 1, but in all seriousness, if you take into consideration the recent wall that sold on ebay for £208K, but fell through because POW/Laz wouldnt authenticate the work, then you can see the shape of where things are going for people who try to sell public works by Banksy
but in all seriousness, if you take into consideration the recent wall that sold on ebay for £208K, but fell through because POW/Laz wouldnt authenticate the work, then you can see the shape of where things are going for people who try to sell public works by Banksy
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Is this really worth £10K, by eddiedangerous on Jan 27, 2008 17:13:25 GMT 1, it came down form 20k earlier in the month. i told the seller to let the market decide the price rather than holding a kings ransom on the thing, and he may well be pleasently suprised!
10 or 20k dont matter, its way too much!!
it came down form 20k earlier in the month. i told the seller to let the market decide the price rather than holding a kings ransom on the thing, and he may well be pleasently suprised!
10 or 20k dont matter, its way too much!!
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Is this really worth £10K, by thelastbushome on Jan 27, 2008 17:17:51 GMT 1, does it work and does it have an electrical safety certificate?
does it work and does it have an electrical safety certificate?
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Is this really worth £10K, by alsbabar on Jan 27, 2008 17:23:28 GMT 1, without prov i would say its worth only the price of the fridge
without prov i would say its worth only the price of the fridge
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curiousgeorge
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Is this really worth £10K, by curiousgeorge on Jan 27, 2008 17:48:02 GMT 1, Might ask the seller how many cubic feet, and if it's frost free model 
Might ask the seller how many cubic feet, and if it's frost free model |
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Is this really worth £10K, by alsbabar on Jan 27, 2008 19:41:29 GMT 1, how irate do you think the seller would be, if loads of people emailed him about the fridge 
how irate do you think the seller would be, if loads of people emailed him about the fridge |
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loucastel
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Is this really worth £10K, by loucastel on Jan 27, 2008 20:22:06 GMT 1, This is being sold by a friend of a forum member, there was a thread about it the first time it was for sale, provenance was sought from laz, they said the rats were by banksy but they wouldnt put anything in writing, perhaps someone on here who is more computer literate can find the thread and post the link.
This is being sold by a friend of a forum member, there was a thread about it the first time it was for sale, provenance was sought from laz, they said the rats were by banksy but they wouldnt put anything in writing, perhaps someone on here who is more computer literate can find the thread and post the link.
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Is this really worth £10K, by snakes on Jan 27, 2008 20:24:21 GMT 1, how would you frame it and stop it smelling of stale milk?
how would you frame it and stop it smelling of stale milk?
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Gallery Grace
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Is this really worth £10K, by Gallery Grace on Jan 27, 2008 23:18:33 GMT 1, it came down form 20k earlier in the month. i told the seller to let the market decide the price rather than holding a kings ransom on the thing, and he may well be pleasently suprised! 10 or 20k dont matter, its way too much!!
I agree it would have been better if the seller started it at 0.99p But provenance or no provenance it’s not a very strong piece
it came down form 20k earlier in the month. i told the seller to let the market decide the price rather than holding a kings ransom on the thing, and he may well be pleasently suprised! 10 or 20k dont matter, its way too much!! I agree it would have been better if the seller started it at 0.99p But provenance or no provenance it’s not a very strong piece |
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monstris
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Is this really worth £10K, by monstris on Jan 27, 2008 23:22:09 GMT 1, Actually there may be some truth to it.
I knew a Harvey who hung out with that crew...at the Notting Hill show he hit on my friend and started freaking her out a bit. With a little digging, Harvey is easy enough to find.
Actually there may be some truth to it.
I knew a Harvey who hung out with that crew...at the Notting Hill show he hit on my friend and started freaking her out a bit. With a little digging, Harvey is easy enough to find.
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Is this really worth £10K, by snakes on Jan 27, 2008 23:28:30 GMT 1, Even if it is by Banksy i would not want that monstrosity, not even for 99p!
Even if it is by Banksy i would not want that monstrosity, not even for 99p!
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monstris
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Is this really worth £10K, by monstris on Jan 27, 2008 23:34:15 GMT 1, Check out the Bonhams catalogue for the 'Urban Art' auction.
There's a shocking pink Banksy on offer which I wouldn't even shit for but is doubtless going to fetch some sort of hideous sum.
Check out the Bonhams catalogue for the 'Urban Art' auction.
There's a shocking pink Banksy on offer which I wouldn't even shit for but is doubtless going to fetch some sort of hideous sum.
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Is this really worth £10K, by Oliver Garland on Jan 27, 2008 23:37:35 GMT 1, Its a mate of mine and looks better in the flesh, I know that laz said it was real but cant give letters. So it is an original wether some of u like it or not.
Its a mate of mine and looks better in the flesh, I know that laz said it was real but cant give letters. So it is an original wether some of u like it or not.
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monstris
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Is this really worth £10K, by monstris on Jan 27, 2008 23:41:00 GMT 1, Its a mate of mine and looks better in the flesh, I know that laz said it was real but cant give letters. So it is an original wether some of u like it or not.
Well I, for one, am not doubting it. The description alone has more legs to it than some of the shite I've seen flogged on the Bay.
Its a mate of mine and looks better in the flesh, I know that laz said it was real but cant give letters. So it is an original wether some of u like it or not. Well I, for one, am not doubting it. The description alone has more legs to it than some of the shite I've seen flogged on the Bay. |
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Is this really worth £10K, by alsbabar on Jan 27, 2008 23:47:59 GMT 1, montris, without provenance, this isnt worth anything, its just a fridge. With a little research, a description can be designed to look good. I for one am glad that without provenance from Laz/POW or Banksy, we will see less opportunitist trying to coin in the money
montris, without provenance, this isnt worth anything, its just a fridge. With a little research, a description can be designed to look good. I for one am glad that without provenance from Laz/POW or Banksy, we will see less opportunitist trying to coin in the money
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Is this really worth £10K, by snakes on Jan 27, 2008 23:48:18 GMT 1, Its a mate of mine and looks better in the flesh, I know that laz said it was real but cant give letters. So it is an original wether some of u like it or not. Well I, for one, am not doubting it. The description alone has more legs to it than some of the s**te I've seen flogged on the Bay.
Even the greatest artists knock out the odd bit of shit from time to time!
Its a mate of mine and looks better in the flesh, I know that laz said it was real but cant give letters. So it is an original wether some of u like it or not. Well I, for one, am not doubting it. The description alone has more legs to it than some of the s**te I've seen flogged on the Bay. Even the greatest artists knock out the odd bit of shit from time to time! |
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Is this really worth £10K, by darjeeling on Jan 28, 2008 3:12:44 GMT 1, but in all seriousness, if you take into consideration the recent wall that sold on ebay for £208K, but fell through because POW/Laz wouldnt authenticate the work, then you can see the shape of where things are going for people who try to sell public works by Banksy
It's not like Steve Lazarides is the one and only route to provenance. Provenance is just the history and ownership etc. Laz may b the best route. But like the other poster said track down that arvey dude. I mean someone out there knows for sure. Just because Laz won't establish provenance doesn't mean it's not real. Lazarides has clearly stated that they won't authenticate works that weren't 'meant' to be 'sold.' Doesn't mean that the hundreds of works all over the streets aren't real. And doesn't mean that the fridge isn't real. And the wall that was up on ebay there's no real reason to believe it's not real despite laz's silence.
Of course I wouldn't bid £10k on the fridge even if laz did authenticate it. Just not a great piece no matter who sprayed it. But it's kind of funny and shows how superficial this all is. I mean if there was 100% proof that banksy sprayed the black spraypaint through the stencil people would be creamng their pants to bid on that fridge. But some random bloke sprays the paint and it's worthles? What's the difference really?
but in all seriousness, if you take into consideration the recent wall that sold on ebay for £208K, but fell through because POW/Laz wouldnt authenticate the work, then you can see the shape of where things are going for people who try to sell public works by Banksy It's not like Steve Lazarides is the one and only route to provenance. Provenance is just the history and ownership etc. Laz may b the best route. But like the other poster said track down that arvey dude. I mean someone out there knows for sure. Just because Laz won't establish provenance doesn't mean it's not real. Lazarides has clearly stated that they won't authenticate works that weren't 'meant' to be 'sold.' Doesn't mean that the hundreds of works all over the streets aren't real. And doesn't mean that the fridge isn't real. And the wall that was up on ebay there's no real reason to believe it's not real despite laz's silence. Of course I wouldn't bid £10k on the fridge even if laz did authenticate it. Just not a great piece no matter who sprayed it. But it's kind of funny and shows how superficial this all is. I mean if there was 100% proof that banksy sprayed the black spraypaint through the stencil people would be creamng their pants to bid on that fridge. But some random bloke sprays the paint and it's worthles? What's the difference really? |
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artstylee
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Is this really worth £10K, by artstylee on Jan 28, 2008 7:13:48 GMT 1, Question is, Is this Ice Box 1/25 th as great as that "Banksy Defaces"Hirst Sotheby's piece at $250,000. Like property The fridge is worth what someone will pay for it. If it is officially Banksy who did it, that's great, but it certainly doens't seem as charming or as creative a layout as he used for most pieces on the streets w/Rats. Plus there's alot of little buddies w/stencils and spraycans biting styles now adays. Who knows.
It's could this guys ploy to upgrade to a SubZero stainless steel joint.
Question is, Is this Ice Box 1/25 th as great as that "Banksy Defaces"Hirst Sotheby's piece at $250,000. Like property The fridge is worth what someone will pay for it. If it is officially Banksy who did it, that's great, but it certainly doens't seem as charming or as creative a layout as he used for most pieces on the streets w/Rats. Plus there's alot of little buddies w/stencils and spraycans biting styles now adays. Who knows.
It's could this guys ploy to upgrade to a SubZero stainless steel joint.
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