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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by bond on Dec 19, 2007 13:32:08 GMT 1, Dear all
This is one of THE best websites on the earth !
It's a free country and this place reflects that . The country is full of all sorts of people both good and bad and this forum is a small version of it.
Silky bless him set this up as a place to discuss art and for people to safely express THEIR opinions .
No doubt when this site started it's membership was 99.9 % comprised of people who just loved the art.
But as time has gone on and the country becomes a massive everyman for himself bundle people look to make a few quid so the focus has shifted away from , " What do you think this piece represents " and " I wonder what the artist is saying here " to " I wonder if this is going to be worth a few quid " and " I have this for sale , PM me "
There will always be flippers in any field , just look at ebay .Before ebay it was not maybe quite so rife but it's always gone on .
It's annoying to miss a piece you really want and even more annoying to see it on ebay 10 mins after it sold it knowing that the seller will probably not even bother taking it out of the tube .
Unfortunately there is sod all we can really do about it so maybe it's time to just go back to basics and chat about a new piece we've seen on the street or for sale and leave them to it . The only tool at our disposal is to not bid anything up straight away but to fight the urge and wait for prices to drop as BIN auctioneers undercut each other - and they always do .
New Years resolutions for 2008 maybe 
1, Don't neg people for not sharing your opinions
2, Ignore flipping as best you can - or at least lets discuss it a bit less
3, Don't ask for PM's - nobody likes doing it . Things will sell better if you give a price.
4, Appreciate that not every piece of art sold on here or ebay is being flipped . In many cases someone will simply be trying to raise funds to buy another piece. - Look at it as your chance to get something you missed first time .
I really enjoy checking this site each day and although i may not personally be as " arty " as some I know what i like . In just over a year I have had my eyes opened up to a lot of art that i never knew existed before . Some good, some great , some amazing and some Mmmm not for me thanks .
Anyway - that's enough waffle from me now .
Thanks from me to everyone for sharing their views this year , I look forward to much more in the future
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR to ALL of you
Dear all This is one of THE best websites on the earth ! It's a free country and this place reflects that . The country is full of all sorts of people both good and bad and this forum is a small version of it. Silky bless him set this up as a place to discuss art and for people to safely express THEIR opinions . No doubt when this site started it's membership was 99.9 % comprised of people who just loved the art. But as time has gone on and the country becomes a massive everyman for himself bundle people look to make a few quid so the focus has shifted away from , " What do you think this piece represents " and " I wonder what the artist is saying here " to " I wonder if this is going to be worth a few quid " and " I have this for sale , PM me " There will always be flippers in any field , just look at ebay .Before ebay it was not maybe quite so rife but it's always gone on . It's annoying to miss a piece you really want and even more annoying to see it on ebay 10 mins after it sold it knowing that the seller will probably not even bother taking it out of the tube . Unfortunately there is sod all we can really do about it so maybe it's time to just go back to basics and chat about a new piece we've seen on the street or for sale and leave them to it . The only tool at our disposal is to not bid anything up straight away but to fight the urge and wait for prices to drop as BIN auctioneers undercut each other - and they always do . New Years resolutions for 2008 maybe 1, Don't neg people for not sharing your opinions 2, Ignore flipping as best you can - or at least lets discuss it a bit less 3, Don't ask for PM's - nobody likes doing it . Things will sell better if you give a price. 4, Appreciate that not every piece of art sold on here or ebay is being flipped . In many cases someone will simply be trying to raise funds to buy another piece. - Look at it as your chance to get something you missed first time . I really enjoy checking this site each day and although i may not personally be as " arty " as some I know what i like . In just over a year I have had my eyes opened up to a lot of art that i never knew existed before . Some good, some great , some amazing and some Mmmm not for me thanks . Anyway - that's enough waffle from me now . Thanks from me to everyone for sharing their views this year , I look forward to much more in the future MERRY CHRISTMAS and a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR to ALL of you |
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loucastel
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by loucastel on Dec 19, 2007 13:47:49 GMT 1, Wouldnt this be fantastic!
Wouldnt this be fantastic!
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by shavemysoul on Dec 19, 2007 13:54:28 GMT 1, Agreed with much of this Bond. Fair play pal. Think its just important we can get that good discussion out of it despite all the rubbish going on elsewhere. Remember the roots of street art, art for the people and all.
Agreed with much of this Bond. Fair play pal. Think its just important we can get that good discussion out of it despite all the rubbish going on elsewhere. Remember the roots of street art, art for the people and all.
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by ejvaze on Dec 19, 2007 13:57:59 GMT 1,
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bond
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by bond on Dec 19, 2007 14:03:58 GMT 1, shave , vaz
Thanks for reading . Just sad to see recently that a lot of regulars are starting to want to leave the board due to the flipper talk every 5 mins and fear of a neg on their hard earned wizard points !
shave , vaz
Thanks for reading . Just sad to see recently that a lot of regulars are starting to want to leave the board due to the flipper talk every 5 mins and fear of a neg on their hard earned wizard points !
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curiousgeorge
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by curiousgeorge on Dec 19, 2007 15:23:26 GMT 1, 
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by bond on Dec 19, 2007 15:44:16 GMT 1, Genius !! ;D you putting that on ebay for £ 10,000 ?
oops , sorry . I mean , lovely piece !!
Genius !! ;D you putting that on ebay for £ 10,000 ?
oops , sorry . I mean , lovely piece !!
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curiousgeorge
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by curiousgeorge on Dec 19, 2007 15:47:14 GMT 1, 10K reserve 
Actually giving them away to friends/forum members..Anyone that wants one PM me sharpish
10K reserve Actually giving them away to friends/forum members..Anyone that wants one PM me sharpish |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by anthoz on Dec 19, 2007 15:49:00 GMT 1, PM sent dude
me likes that very much......
good work
PM sent dude me likes that very much...... good work |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by graeme501 on Dec 19, 2007 15:51:16 GMT 1, also PM sent
maybee in 2008 we should try and get more forum members doing their own work on the streets, i know thats what im going 2 b doing next year, i have a couple of ideas floating about
also PM sent maybee in 2008 we should try and get more forum members doing their own work on the streets, i know thats what im going 2 b doing next year, i have a couple of ideas floating about |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by curiousgeorge on Dec 19, 2007 16:03:15 GMT 1, I should say none of this would have been possible without the help of CBL, to me he is a legend.I'm a pain in the ass and forever sending him PM's asking for favours,everytime he is always happy to help me and it because of people like him that this place is so great IMO.
Had a load of PM's, waiting for the printer to return my call.Should i not be able to get anymore printed before Christmas, i will do a lottery type thing.Don't want any payment for them either..
Just out of interest these came off the back of me getting some of my own work printed, yes it's cheesy and generic but it's very special to me. Pictures are moments in time captured forever dontchaknow
I should say none of this would have been possible without the help of CBL, to me he is a legend.I'm a pain in the ass and forever sending him PM's asking for favours,everytime he is always happy to help me and it because of people like him that this place is so great IMO. Had a load of PM's, waiting for the printer to return my call.Should i not be able to get anymore printed before Christmas, i will do a lottery type thing.Don't want any payment for them either.. Just out of interest these came off the back of me getting some of my own work printed, yes it's cheesy and generic but it's very special to me. Pictures are moments in time captured forever dontchaknow |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by anthoz on Dec 19, 2007 16:04:33 GMT 1, I should say none of this would have been possible without the help of CBL, to me he is a legend.I'm a pain in the ass and forever sending him PM's asking for favours,everytime he is always happy to help me and it because of people like him that this place is so great IMO. Had a load of PM's, waiting for the printer to return my call.Should i not be able to get anymore printed before Christmas, i will do a lottery type thing.Don't want any payment for them either.. Just out of interest these came off the back of me getting some of my own work printed, yes it's cheesy and generic but it's very special to me. Pictures are moments in time captured forever dontchaknow
thanks curiousgeorge
love that photo too.....must have been amazing in person
I should say none of this would have been possible without the help of CBL, to me he is a legend.I'm a pain in the ass and forever sending him PM's asking for favours,everytime he is always happy to help me and it because of people like him that this place is so great IMO. Had a load of PM's, waiting for the printer to return my call.Should i not be able to get anymore printed before Christmas, i will do a lottery type thing.Don't want any payment for them either.. Just out of interest these came off the back of me getting some of my own work printed, yes it's cheesy and generic but it's very special to me. Pictures are moments in time captured forever dontchaknow thanks curiousgeorge love that photo too.....must have been amazing in person |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by dave313perry on Dec 19, 2007 16:15:43 GMT 1, also PM sent maybee in 2008 we should try and get more forum members doing their own work on the streets, i know thats what im going 2 b doing next year, i have a couple of ideas floating about
Yes just lookout for the old flashing blue lights 
also PM sent maybee in 2008 we should try and get more forum members doing their own work on the streets, i know thats what im going 2 b doing next year, i have a couple of ideas floating about Yes just lookout for the old flashing blue lights |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by mcnuts on Dec 19, 2007 16:32:12 GMT 1,
cg very well done! will have to use those next christmas! very cool!
cg very well done! will have to use those next christmas! very cool! |
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curiousgeorge
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by curiousgeorge on Dec 19, 2007 16:37:30 GMT 1, Folks Corblimeylimey played a BIG part in this, lest we not forgot this fact
Folks Corblimeylimey played a BIG part in this, lest we not forgot this fact |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by johnas on Dec 19, 2007 16:37:31 GMT 1, good one george
more in the xmas spirit than my effort ;D
good one george more in the xmas spirit than my effort ;D |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by streetgirl on Dec 19, 2007 17:10:23 GMT 1, Excellent!
Bond, couldn't agree more with you.
George & CBL, excellent work.
+1's all round when my ammo is reloaded.
Excellent!
Bond, couldn't agree more with you.
George & CBL, excellent work.
+1's all round when my ammo is reloaded.
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by bond on Dec 19, 2007 17:39:28 GMT 1, thanks a lot !! looking forward to the plus one especially as some fool took one off - MISSED THE POINT WHOEVER YOU ARE YOU GOON !!!
thanks a lot !! looking forward to the plus one especially as some fool took one off - MISSED THE POINT WHOEVER YOU ARE YOU GOON !!!
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by Avian Security on Dec 19, 2007 17:41:23 GMT 1, 
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by Jef Aerosol on Dec 19, 2007 19:38:14 GMT 1, you said : <<3, Don't ask for PM's - nobody likes doing it . Things will sell better if you give a price.>>
I was told that this was precisely what shouldn't be done ! (no price in the posts)... ? ? ?
(this is also discussed in the "don't" thread right now : the "should we promote what we have for sale on here or not" issue ...
you said : <<3, Don't ask for PM's - nobody likes doing it . Things will sell better if you give a price.>>
I was told that this was precisely what shouldn't be done ! (no price in the posts)... ? ? ?
(this is also discussed in the "don't" thread right now : the "should we promote what we have for sale on here or not" issue ...
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by otomi on Dec 19, 2007 20:25:41 GMT 1, Thanks bond great post. Hope everyone reads it! + from me
Thanks bond great post. Hope everyone reads it! + from me
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by f5ers on Dec 19, 2007 21:06:25 GMT 1, I think next year, the forum should organise a secret santa where everyone who joins up to it sends some else a print/poster/artwork (spend no more than say £40) and you don't know who its from. This Would create feelings of goodwill and excitement of recieving something new which you might not have otherwise bought. It would distract from all the Gheytto nonsense and help create a more positive and welcoming forum spirit.. just a thought.
I think next year, the forum should organise a secret santa where everyone who joins up to it sends some else a print/poster/artwork (spend no more than say £40) and you don't know who its from. This Would create feelings of goodwill and excitement of recieving something new which you might not have otherwise bought. It would distract from all the Gheytto nonsense and help create a more positive and welcoming forum spirit.. just a thought.
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by Jef Aerosol on Dec 19, 2007 22:22:41 GMT 1, exscellent idea !
exscellent idea !
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by curiousgeorge on Dec 19, 2007 23:20:58 GMT 1, I think next year, the forum should organise a secret santa where everyone who joins up to it sends some else a print/poster/artwork (spend no more than say £40) and you don't know who its from. This Would create feelings of goodwill and excitement of recieving something new which you might not have otherwise bought. It would distract from all the Gheytto nonsense and help create a more positive and welcoming forum spirit.. just a thought.
I have just registered 'The CuriousGeorge Secret Santa', just so y'all know 
I think next year, the forum should organise a secret santa where everyone who joins up to it sends some else a print/poster/artwork (spend no more than say £40) and you don't know who its from. This Would create feelings of goodwill and excitement of recieving something new which you might not have otherwise bought. It would distract from all the Gheytto nonsense and help create a more positive and welcoming forum spirit.. just a thought. I have just registered 'The CuriousGeorge Secret Santa', just so y'all know |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by otomi on Dec 20, 2007 6:45:42 GMT 1, I have just registered 'The CuriousGeorge Secret Santa', just so y'all know
+1 from me for that
I have just registered 'The CuriousGeorge Secret Santa', just so y'all know +1 from me for that |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by bond on Dec 20, 2007 8:29:18 GMT 1,
That's genius - - how about printing these off and selling them on the dreaded ebay for say a fiver and giving the money to Great Ormond st or the Charidee auctions ?
Maybe a tad late now for Xmas but you could do it for seasonal hols ?
That's genius - - how about printing these off and selling them on the dreaded ebay for say a fiver and giving the money to Great Ormond st or the Charidee auctions ? Maybe a tad late now for Xmas but you could do it for seasonal hols ? |
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by bond on Dec 20, 2007 12:03:37 GMT 1, Actually - i've changed my mind - maybe because i've had 4 hrs sleep and a hangover from hell but since i wrote this post i've lost 6 points
WHAT THE f**k is that about ! Seriously . one of you faceless muppets want to tell me your reason ?
No doubt this will open me up to more negs but frankly today i could'nt give a flying f**k . 22 from 28 as i write this so help yourselves tossers
Actually - i've changed my mind - maybe because i've had 4 hrs sleep and a hangover from hell but since i wrote this post i've lost 6 points
WHAT THE f**k is that about ! Seriously . one of you faceless muppets want to tell me your reason ?
No doubt this will open me up to more negs but frankly today i could'nt give a flying f**k . 22 from 28 as i write this so help yourselves tossers
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by becksaboo on Dec 20, 2007 12:25:57 GMT 1, don't listen to them, respect points are pointless anyway. thanks for your initial post, eat some salt and vinegar crisps (great for hangovers) and be merry!
don't listen to them, respect points are pointless anyway. thanks for your initial post, eat some salt and vinegar crisps (great for hangovers) and be merry!
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bond
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FORUM HUG REQUIRED I THINK !!! , by bond on Dec 20, 2007 12:37:12 GMT 1, don't listen to them, respect points are pointless anyway. thanks for your initial post, eat some salt and vinegar crisps (great for hangovers) and be merry!
yeah i know - cheers
the fry up and 7 pieces of toast has not helped at all ! think i'll have a cheeky pint in a mo
don't listen to them, respect points are pointless anyway. thanks for your initial post, eat some salt and vinegar crisps (great for hangovers) and be merry! yeah i know - cheers the fry up and 7 pieces of toast has not helped at all ! think i'll have a cheeky pint in a mo |
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