stradled
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by stradled on Dec 18, 2007 19:18:03 GMT 1, soo way are you doin it then?! donยดt have anything better to do with your time or money... is it only for the fun? The intention wasnt to buy to sell, the intention was to buy to keep, however the money spent on going out the SG in Bethlehem and further purchases, means 1. i dont have the wall space and 2. I do not have mummy's credit card to finance purchase, oh and 3. I dont have to justify myself to anyone on here. If logic cannot prevail then let anarchy reign!!
I vote you go on brat camp, your attitude stinks!
soo way are you doin it then?! donยดt have anything better to do with your time or money... is it only for the fun? The intention wasnt to buy to sell, the intention was to buy to keep, however the money spent on going out the SG in Bethlehem and further purchases, means 1. i dont have the wall space and 2. I do not have mummy's credit card to finance purchase, oh and 3. I dont have to justify myself to anyone on here. If logic cannot prevail then let anarchy reign!! I vote you go on brat camp, your attitude stinks!
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heidiho
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by heidiho on Dec 18, 2007 19:18:14 GMT 1, I think he's referring to these: search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZalsbabarPersonally I don't care about 'flipping', it's a fact of life. But if it looks like a flipper, smells like a flipper and sells prints on eBay for a massive profit soon after release, it probably is a flipper. do you know the prices of each of these prints? Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!!
Why are you charging VAT?
Are you VAT registered or something?
I think he's referring to these: search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZalsbabarPersonally I don't care about 'flipping', it's a fact of life. But if it looks like a flipper, smells like a flipper and sells prints on eBay for a massive profit soon after release, it probably is a flipper. do you know the prices of each of these prints? Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!! Why are you charging VAT? Are you VAT registered or something?
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by dave313perry on Dec 18, 2007 19:19:06 GMT 1, You know what, f**k you lot, I dont have to justify any aspect of my being to any one of you people. My integrity and moral character is more intact then most in here, so now what? Going to neg me some more - like i give a s**t!!! How many of you f**kers actually made a stand for something, like go out to Bethlehem? Or donate to charity? Or actually make a difference to the world?
Sorry think you lot are all being harsh now - time to move on
+1 THE END....(phew)
You know what, f**k you lot, I dont have to justify any aspect of my being to any one of you people. My integrity and moral character is more intact then most in here, so now what? Going to neg me some more - like i give a s**t!!! How many of you f**kers actually made a stand for something, like go out to Bethlehem? Or donate to charity? Or actually make a difference to the world? Sorry think you lot are all being harsh now - time to move on +1 THE END....(phew)
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flippa
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by flippa on Dec 18, 2007 19:19:45 GMT 1, OMG stupid f8cking crybabies are you all like 15 years old? You buy something you own it.
OMG stupid f8cking crybabies are you all like 15 years old? You buy something you own it.
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by alsbabar on Dec 18, 2007 19:19:54 GMT 1, do you know the prices of each of these prints? Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!! I don't really have a strong opinion for or against certain "flips", as I've had to on occasion sell something either because it showed up and I wasn't impressed with it in person, decided I shouldn't have bought it in the first place and needed the money, etc etc. That being said, the issue the people attacking you isn't how much profit you're making, if any. It's the fact that you just bought these prints and you're quick to sell them. Surely if they were going for 3 times as much you'd still be selling them and wouldn't have the "I'm not making much" excuse to fall back on, right? I guess the question is just "Why did you buy these prints to begin with?"
If I wanted to make more money, I would have flipped them when they were going for ยฃ500, and ยฃ800, so you are wrong, way wrong. I bought them because I could afford them at the time and I liked them and that is it - end of matter
do you know the prices of each of these prints? Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!! I don't really have a strong opinion for or against certain "flips", as I've had to on occasion sell something either because it showed up and I wasn't impressed with it in person, decided I shouldn't have bought it in the first place and needed the money, etc etc. That being said, the issue the people attacking you isn't how much profit you're making, if any. It's the fact that you just bought these prints and you're quick to sell them. Surely if they were going for 3 times as much you'd still be selling them and wouldn't have the "I'm not making much" excuse to fall back on, right? I guess the question is just "Why did you buy these prints to begin with?" If I wanted to make more money, I would have flipped them when they were going for ยฃ500, and ยฃ800, so you are wrong, way wrong. I bought them because I could afford them at the time and I liked them and that is it - end of matter
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by alsbabar on Dec 18, 2007 19:20:42 GMT 1, do you know the prices of each of these prints? Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!! Why are you charging VAT? Are you VAT registered or something?
are you thick - the gallery charges vat!!!
do you know the prices of each of these prints? Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!! Why are you charging VAT? Are you VAT registered or something? are you thick - the gallery charges vat!!!
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tomdc85
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by tomdc85 on Dec 18, 2007 19:23:36 GMT 1, Buying flippers' prints now would stop a handful of people this time round, but then in future flippers would just be more patient and wait until the prints were shipped before listing.
The system needs a bigger overhaul imo.
Buying flippers' prints now would stop a handful of people this time round, but then in future flippers would just be more patient and wait until the prints were shipped before listing.
The system needs a bigger overhaul imo.
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by dave313perry on Dec 18, 2007 19:28:01 GMT 1, Alsbabar cannot criticise people for flipping prints - or buying and selling in a short space of time
However - everybody - thats everybody whos not in an extremely fortunate position buy and sell prints, i think your all being extremely hypercritical because it doesnt seem to me that he/she (sorry) is a serial flipper, you lot need to have a look on ebay at about 10-15 accounts minimum that have been flipping prints straight from the purchase screen for the past 18 months. - nearly all forum members
this is no isolated case, so dont treat it like one - wether they have got on your tits or not dont attack them for selling a few recent prints because its the only thing you have on them???
think this thread is going round in circles and is as constructive as a wet paper bag! time to move on me thinks....
Alsbabar cannot criticise people for flipping prints - or buying and selling in a short space of time
However - everybody - thats everybody whos not in an extremely fortunate position buy and sell prints, i think your all being extremely hypercritical because it doesnt seem to me that he/she (sorry) is a serial flipper, you lot need to have a look on ebay at about 10-15 accounts minimum that have been flipping prints straight from the purchase screen for the past 18 months. - nearly all forum members
this is no isolated case, so dont treat it like one - wether they have got on your tits or not dont attack them for selling a few recent prints because its the only thing you have on them???
think this thread is going round in circles and is as constructive as a wet paper bag! time to move on me thinks....
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G-Man
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by G-Man on Dec 18, 2007 19:29:02 GMT 1, Ho Ho Ho
Tis the season to be jolly you know?
Come on we all know that flipping goews on.. live and let live
Ho Ho Ho Tis the season to be jolly you know? Come on we all know that flipping goews on.. live and let live
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heidiho
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by heidiho on Dec 18, 2007 19:30:03 GMT 1, Why are you charging VAT? Are you VAT registered or something? are you thick - the gallery charges vat!!!
I surely must be as i thought that the Green Lady was ยฃ362 ( price inclusive of VAT / P&P), Dollar was ยฃ237 ( price inclusive of VAT / P&P) from the BRP Gallery so I am unable to figure your sums out.
Why are you charging VAT? Are you VAT registered or something? are you thick - the gallery charges vat!!! I surely must be as i thought that the Green Lady was ยฃ362 ( price inclusive of VAT / P&P), Dollar was ยฃ237 ( price inclusive of VAT / P&P) from the BRP Gallery so I am unable to figure your sums out.
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otomi
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by otomi on Dec 18, 2007 19:31:05 GMT 1, I think the flippers will figure something out and then POW has to buy a lot of their own prints for a lot of money. It would also increase the prices. Which makes it all worse. I do not like flipping I think people who like the art should get it for a fair price but you can't stop ebay. I personally don't buy on the secondary market and have never sold a print. There is always something nice out there for a reasonable price - maybe not a Banksy but there will be more. Check the 50pound thread.
I think the flippers will figure something out and then POW has to buy a lot of their own prints for a lot of money. It would also increase the prices. Which makes it all worse. I do not like flipping I think people who like the art should get it for a fair price but you can't stop ebay. I personally don't buy on the secondary market and have never sold a print. There is always something nice out there for a reasonable price - maybe not a Banksy but there will be more. Check the 50pound thread.
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by Lord Lucas Roham on Dec 18, 2007 19:33:24 GMT 1, Its about time some of you sanctimonious pricks woke up.
You would think 'Flipping' was as bad as rape or paedophilia.
Jealousy and envy methinks
Its about time some of you sanctimonious pricks woke up.
You would think 'Flipping' was as bad as rape or paedophilia.
Jealousy and envy methinks
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kronoopus
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by kronoopus on Dec 18, 2007 19:33:31 GMT 1, Just a point to ponder. ALL of the Stop and Search are violations of ebay policy based on one little technicality. It is the picture that they use. It is POW's and not theirs. If POW wanted to they could shut down every auction now. There is something with copyrights. Of course POW would only have to watermark the photos, but they don't. Anyway, my 2 cents.......
Just a point to ponder. ALL of the Stop and Search are violations of ebay policy based on one little technicality. It is the picture that they use. It is POW's and not theirs. If POW wanted to they could shut down every auction now. There is something with copyrights. Of course POW would only have to watermark the photos, but they don't. Anyway, my 2 cents.......
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Richard
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by Richard on Dec 18, 2007 19:52:30 GMT 1, Today at 6:00pm, alsbabar wrote:
do you know the prices of each of these prints?
Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit
Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!!
You are only selling at break even because that is all they are worth on eBay - if they were going for ยฃ1k on eBay you would sell for that - it's not you being nice! You just want to get rid because you realise you aren't going to make big $$$.
Today at 6:00pm, alsbabar wrote:
do you know the prices of each of these prints?
Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit
Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!!
You are only selling at break even because that is all they are worth on eBay - if they were going for ยฃ1k on eBay you would sell for that - it's not you being nice! You just want to get rid because you realise you aren't going to make big $$$.
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scavos
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by scavos on Dec 18, 2007 20:03:47 GMT 1, I can't believe threads like this.... I actually cannot be bothered to continue writing. Such negativity is plain sad.
I can't believe threads like this.... I actually cannot be bothered to continue writing. Such negativity is plain sad.
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by manty on Dec 18, 2007 20:07:08 GMT 1, i just find it boring, but then again, i am a little bored :-)
Its cold outside isnt it
i just find it boring, but then again, i am a little bored :-)
Its cold outside isnt it
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by displaced bear on Dec 18, 2007 20:11:58 GMT 1, everybody needs to let it go. flipping is a part of the art market, in order to fund bigger purchases/prints people will often let go of prints or try to get a print they know they can flip so they work towards getting a nice og or something. sure it's ridiculous people are doing it before they even have it in hand and are doing it solely for profit but are they to blame for what everyone else is willing to pay. many of us aren't loaded with dough and the need to basically switch out art by flipping one in order to fund another or reduce the costs is necessary.
hype feeds into it as well. but the secondary market helps increase demand / hype by forcing "true fans" to spend less time thinking and just purchasing before it's all gone. without flippers i'm sure many of us wouldn't own some of the pieces we love.
and if pow says something about the pictures i'm sure the flippers can still manage to sell their banksys without the image. cause everyone still knows what they'd be buying and could still easily find out the image if they didn't
everybody needs to let it go. flipping is a part of the art market, in order to fund bigger purchases/prints people will often let go of prints or try to get a print they know they can flip so they work towards getting a nice og or something. sure it's ridiculous people are doing it before they even have it in hand and are doing it solely for profit but are they to blame for what everyone else is willing to pay. many of us aren't loaded with dough and the need to basically switch out art by flipping one in order to fund another or reduce the costs is necessary.
hype feeds into it as well. but the secondary market helps increase demand / hype by forcing "true fans" to spend less time thinking and just purchasing before it's all gone. without flippers i'm sure many of us wouldn't own some of the pieces we love.
and if pow says something about the pictures i'm sure the flippers can still manage to sell their banksys without the image. cause everyone still knows what they'd be buying and could still easily find out the image if they didn't
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klyde
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by klyde on Dec 18, 2007 20:22:54 GMT 1, In terms of flippers - Just f*cking cope. You're all adults.
Missing out on some art work is a relatively nice problem to have in the grand scheme of things. Means you can afford such overpriced 5hit in the first place.
If it gets to you don't look at ebay. Its very simple.
In terms of flippers - Just f*cking cope. You're all adults.
Missing out on some art work is a relatively nice problem to have in the grand scheme of things. Means you can afford such overpriced 5hit in the first place.
If it gets to you don't look at ebay. Its very simple.
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neutral
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by neutral on Dec 18, 2007 20:33:00 GMT 1, Bloody hell been reading through the thread sounds like a broken records and 90% of this board, flippers this flippers that... Move on it is Xmass enjoy family, friends... Who cares about POW going after them...for F U C K Sake they probably have better things to do. You loose some you win some get over it people this is life, well if you have one ! Rant over.
Bloody hell been reading through the thread sounds like a broken records and 90% of this board, flippers this flippers that... Move on it is Xmass enjoy family, friends... Who cares about POW going after them...for F U C K Sake they probably have better things to do. You loose some you win some get over it people this is life, well if you have one ! Rant over.
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by alsbabar on Dec 18, 2007 20:47:45 GMT 1, Today at 6:00pm, alsbabar wrote: do you know the prices of each of these prints? Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!! You are only selling at break even because that is all they are worth on eBay - if they were going for ยฃ1k on eBay you would sell for that - it's not you being nice! You just want to get rid because you realise you aren't going to make big $$$.
oh f**k off you sanctimonious c**t - you know f**k all about me - when did this thread turn from Grassing someone up to POW so you can increase your chance of getting something by being sneaky to me selling 3 prints which I cannot afford to keep any longer?
Today at 6:00pm, alsbabar wrote: do you know the prices of each of these prints? Green Lady - ยฃ375 + vat plus shipping, then you have ebay fees, and paypal fees so total cost to me - what ยฃ485? ยฃ15 profit big deal Dollar - ยฃ200 + vat plus shipping again ebay fees etc - ยฃ10 profit even bigger deal Blek Le Rat - ยฃ250 + vat, plus shipping etc - ยฃ0 profit Oh lets not discount the time and money it cost me to actually buy these prints !!! You are only selling at break even because that is all they are worth on eBay - if they were going for ยฃ1k on eBay you would sell for that - it's not you being nice! You just want to get rid because you realise you aren't going to make big $$$. oh f**k off you sanctimonious c**t - you know f**k all about me - when did this thread turn from Grassing someone up to POW so you can increase your chance of getting something by being sneaky to me selling 3 prints which I cannot afford to keep any longer?
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by Lord Lucas Roham on Dec 18, 2007 20:47:51 GMT 1, I wish I could afford to keep EVERY print I bought, reality is very different though.
Were not all blessed with fat-cat city jobs and large inheritances, just looking at some of the 'second' cars in the 'what car do you drive' thread, it made me sick.
I wish I could afford to keep EVERY print I bought, reality is very different though.
Were not all blessed with fat-cat city jobs and large inheritances, just looking at some of the 'second' cars in the 'what car do you drive' thread, it made me sick.
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by alsbabar on Dec 18, 2007 20:54:06 GMT 1, items removed you pricks - there you go, now all of you get off your hypocritical high horses. I will wait till the new year and put them back up for shit loads more money, that way I will be a proper flipper
items removed you pricks - there you go, now all of you get off your hypocritical high horses. I will wait till the new year and put them back up for shit loads more money, that way I will be a proper flipper
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loucastel
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by loucastel on Dec 18, 2007 22:07:10 GMT 1, Since I joined this forum ,which is only a short time ago,I have heard nothing but ,flippers this, flippers that, I would have thought that whatever you do with the print after you bought it was your personal choice, we all stand the same chance of getting a print as anyone else, there has been the argument that they then dont go to "real fans" (whatever they are), and if they do go to real fans the chances are that print will then spend years in an art portfolio and never see the light of day, let alone a wall, live and let live, and lets all enjoy art for what it is, after all to a lot of people it is yet another comodity, to galleries, artists, general public etc. by the way happy xmas to you all.
Since I joined this forum ,which is only a short time ago,I have heard nothing but ,flippers this, flippers that, I would have thought that whatever you do with the print after you bought it was your personal choice, we all stand the same chance of getting a print as anyone else, there has been the argument that they then dont go to "real fans" (whatever they are), and if they do go to real fans the chances are that print will then spend years in an art portfolio and never see the light of day, let alone a wall, live and let live, and lets all enjoy art for what it is, after all to a lot of people it is yet another comodity, to galleries, artists, general public etc. by the way happy xmas to you all.
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ABC
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by ABC on Dec 18, 2007 23:20:04 GMT 1, Its like a merry-go-round with this flipping debate. They are not going to be stopped, It's life, concert tickets, art etc etc Whatever makes a quick buck will always attract interest. I'd say we,POW,Laz have created this frenzy, lets face it, a few of the latest prints are not the best but have sold in seconds why?. POW are making a fortune from the current art trends and I doubt very much they would want to stop it, they are a business at the end of the day and its about making money, yes they keep the prices low, but offset that with high editions to sell more.
I find it as frustrating as most trying to get prints nowadays, I have been buying for years like some on here have too, Its life, get over it.
I missed a few banksy prints and moaned like a baby about it for days, flipper this flipper that, life's to short to worry anymore.
Now this will get me negged I'm sure but the main reason why so many are desperate to get them is for the "Status" of owning a Banksy plus what they are worth 5 seconds after you managed to get one. Truth hurts but its true for the new wave of collectors IMO.
Its like a merry-go-round with this flipping debate. They are not going to be stopped, It's life, concert tickets, art etc etc Whatever makes a quick buck will always attract interest. I'd say we,POW,Laz have created this frenzy, lets face it, a few of the latest prints are not the best but have sold in seconds why?. POW are making a fortune from the current art trends and I doubt very much they would want to stop it, they are a business at the end of the day and its about making money, yes they keep the prices low, but offset that with high editions to sell more.
I find it as frustrating as most trying to get prints nowadays, I have been buying for years like some on here have too, Its life, get over it.
I missed a few banksy prints and moaned like a baby about it for days, flipper this flipper that, life's to short to worry anymore.
Now this will get me negged I'm sure but the main reason why so many are desperate to get them is for the "Status" of owning a Banksy plus what they are worth 5 seconds after you managed to get one. Truth hurts but its true for the new wave of collectors IMO.
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leumasdarnley
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by leumasdarnley on Dec 18, 2007 23:27:11 GMT 1, The funny thing about this shit is its like watching the news. If you watch the news everynight you get a feeling like the world is going to end soon (maybe it will) and I am constantly pissed off and depressed but then when you stop for a while and walk around you realize fuck this I am not going to be miserable because the press wants me to be. Same with this stuff if it pissed you off that much might be time for a break its a fucking art forum....
The funny thing about this shit is its like watching the news. If you watch the news everynight you get a feeling like the world is going to end soon (maybe it will) and I am constantly pissed off and depressed but then when you stop for a while and walk around you realize fuck this I am not going to be miserable because the press wants me to be. Same with this stuff if it pissed you off that much might be time for a break its a fucking art forum....
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by uvme on Dec 18, 2007 23:44:50 GMT 1, F*ck flippers and f*ck Prints. Its all bullsh*t. What matters is the images not whether you own a reproduction of them. The very fact that someone can produce an image that provokes thought or an emotional response in you is more than enough. Prints are like photos of someone you love - they are a memento at best, no substitute for the real thing. Ask yourself why you need prints? To validate to yourself or your friends that you have taste? Cover the damp on your walls? For investment? There are few better feelings than seeing a new piece by your favourite artist in the street or gallery or seeing something funny that someone has written on a wall. They give you hope that the world is not full of morons like the ones you have to work with everyday. Enjoy the art, f*ck the flippers because no matter how much money they make they will never know what they are missing.
F*ck flippers and f*ck Prints. Its all bullsh*t. What matters is the images not whether you own a reproduction of them. The very fact that someone can produce an image that provokes thought or an emotional response in you is more than enough. Prints are like photos of someone you love - they are a memento at best, no substitute for the real thing. Ask yourself why you need prints? To validate to yourself or your friends that you have taste? Cover the damp on your walls? For investment? There are few better feelings than seeing a new piece by your favourite artist in the street or gallery or seeing something funny that someone has written on a wall. They give you hope that the world is not full of morons like the ones you have to work with everyday. Enjoy the art, f*ck the flippers because no matter how much money they make they will never know what they are missing.
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ABC
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by ABC on Dec 18, 2007 23:56:02 GMT 1, "why you need prints" becuase I'm not rich enough to buy originals at todays prices anymore, yes I've bought a few in the past and wish I could buy more but to be perfectly honest, I love all kinds of art, on my wall, on your walls, on the chip shop walls, It's in my blood, Investment comes second with me but its the bonus part of my passion.
"why you need prints" becuase I'm not rich enough to buy originals at todays prices anymore, yes I've bought a few in the past and wish I could buy more but to be perfectly honest, I love all kinds of art, on my wall, on your walls, on the chip shop walls, It's in my blood, Investment comes second with me but its the bonus part of my passion.
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If POW want to stop the flippers..., by uvme on Dec 19, 2007 0:09:21 GMT 1, "why you need prints" becuase I'm not rich enough to buy originals at todays prices anymore, yes I've bought a few in the past and wish I could buy more but to be perfectly honest, I love all kinds of art, on my wall, on your walls, on the chip shop walls, It's in my blood, Investment comes second with me but its the bonus part of my passion.
i was meaning to say that there is too much emphasis put on the ownership of art as opposed to its appreciation and that the former in no way improves the latter. and that just because people can't afford prints / originals (like me) it does not mean that they can't gain as much enjoyment and pleasure from photos or seeing them on the street or gallery. i personally can't see how owning a banksy print could make me like his work anymore than i do.
"why you need prints" becuase I'm not rich enough to buy originals at todays prices anymore, yes I've bought a few in the past and wish I could buy more but to be perfectly honest, I love all kinds of art, on my wall, on your walls, on the chip shop walls, It's in my blood, Investment comes second with me but its the bonus part of my passion. i was meaning to say that there is too much emphasis put on the ownership of art as opposed to its appreciation and that the former in no way improves the latter. and that just because people can't afford prints / originals (like me) it does not mean that they can't gain as much enjoyment and pleasure from photos or seeing them on the street or gallery. i personally can't see how owning a banksy print could make me like his work anymore than i do.
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ABC
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