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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by northern sole on Dec 8, 2007 9:03:32 GMT 1, lets not turn a positive into a negative, pow obviously trying to guard against flippers. i hold my hand up to them for trying to make a difference. there has been some bad publicity this year this redresses this. one bad experience shouldnt detract from a worthy cause !
lets not turn a positive into a negative, pow obviously trying to guard against flippers. i hold my hand up to them for trying to make a difference. there has been some bad publicity this year this redresses this. one bad experience shouldnt detract from a worthy cause !
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by mammal2 on Dec 8, 2007 9:46:39 GMT 1, Pow are being careful for the following reason only. They are keeping as many flags back through the month as possible to make sure that people from other countries who are travelling over get the chance to pick up such an amazing piece. They are simply worried that people are just ringing up contacts and asking them to go, which defeats the point a little bit. They want YOU to go if at all possible. To see the wall, the art, the city etc. The Banksy is sort of a reward, that you obviously have to pay for. If you really want a reward and have the money I would try and place a bid on the Toxic Mary and Flying Copper colour ways that they have. The latter in pink could look vvvv cool. If you are thinking of going this weekend. GO! There are stil flags available!
Pow are being careful for the following reason only. They are keeping as many flags back through the month as possible to make sure that people from other countries who are travelling over get the chance to pick up such an amazing piece. They are simply worried that people are just ringing up contacts and asking them to go, which defeats the point a little bit. They want YOU to go if at all possible. To see the wall, the art, the city etc. The Banksy is sort of a reward, that you obviously have to pay for. If you really want a reward and have the money I would try and place a bid on the Toxic Mary and Flying Copper colour ways that they have. The latter in pink could look vvvv cool. If you are thinking of going this weekend. GO! There are stil flags available!
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 10:52:38 GMT 1, The beginning of the end. The money's going to charity so they should be happy to sell them to whoever. I can understand the one per person thing but not wanting to sell to a local? Why bother going there then? What's next, paid placement from McDonald's on street art?
One of the most lazy ignorant stupid posts I've recently read. POW are simply trying to prevent fat lazy bastards like you from using locals as "mules" to get them a much sought after voucher. The fact that the guy eventually got his print is testament to this. Yes, they will make life difficult if it looks like you haven't a clue who SG or Banksy is. I don't see how their giving to Charity should undermine their desire to get these prints into the hands of true Banksy fans.
McDonalds ad's..? WTF
The beginning of the end. The money's going to charity so they should be happy to sell them to whoever. I can understand the one per person thing but not wanting to sell to a local? Why bother going there then? What's next, paid placement from McDonald's on street art? One of the most lazy ignorant stupid posts I've recently read. POW are simply trying to prevent fat lazy bastards like you from using locals as "mules" to get them a much sought after voucher. The fact that the guy eventually got his print is testament to this. Yes, they will make life difficult if it looks like you haven't a clue who SG or Banksy is. I don't see how their giving to Charity should undermine their desire to get these prints into the hands of true Banksy fans. McDonalds ad's..? WTF
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 10:57:17 GMT 1, What happened to artists be grateful and humble about selling their art? thats a shame.
ooo, thank you for your money.. fuck that shit IMO
What happened to artists be grateful and humble about selling their art? thats a shame. ooo, thank you for your money.. fuck that shit IMO
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by dslug on Dec 8, 2007 11:04:33 GMT 1, I think they're trying to preserve stock for those who've made the most effort to get there, people who need the experience.
Thats exactly what they are doing,btw I hear there are still a few flags left as of yesterday.
I think they're trying to preserve stock for those who've made the most effort to get there, people who need the experience. Thats exactly what they are doing,btw I hear there are still a few flags left as of yesterday.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 11:07:58 GMT 1, I couldnt agree more ... why not let the locals flip them if they can afford it? Just more money going towards there community i would argue the the banksy art prints are extremely underpriced... there almost donating them to the locals... I agree they want EVERYONE to see the situation over there... but its also 3x's futher away 16 hour flights multi stop flights for 3x's more money 2500 usd round trip... sorta difficult for us to just drop everything work/family/commitments and travel out there CBL... alot easier being in the UK imo... +1 Foreman, as I agree with everything you said. I am in the US, and I own a business so its impossible for me to get away at this time of the year. On top of that, its about 3k for me to go over and back in expense and I would much rather pay a local guy a grand or two to get me a print, knowing the money is going into that area to be spent than lining the pockets of some tout. I think we all agree the point of the Ghetto in Bethlehem is to draw attention to the area and issues, and that is being done by the publicity the event has stirred in the media, by the numerous forum threads that turn to debate and information gathering, and by the relatively few people that actually travel over to see it in person. But the notion we need to focus on the viewing it for ourselves first hand and therefore putting restrictions on local buyers in attempt to force people to see it in that one dimensional way is selling the bigger picture of the cause short. This isn't the 1950's where the only way you knew about a region is to visit it or be one of the semi-concerned people who's views could be tainted by the one or two news providers they had access to. With global media and the various sources of information available VIA the internet, we don't need to see the situation first hand to understand the scope of issues surrounding the area. All we need to do is have the open debates this has stirred and research it on our own to come to the realization there are issues that need to be addressed, and I think POW could have accomplished that without the qualification demands.
That's bollocks, it's palestine, no, it's not the 1950's, they've been bombed into the middle ages. The charity is one thing, the aim of SG is to also increase tourism to the region to boost the local economy. POW aren't attempting to just highlight the issues.. they're encouraging us to go see it for ourselves. It's open until the 25th.. the rationing of prints will encourage more people to go.. simple really.
I couldnt agree more ... why not let the locals flip them if they can afford it? Just more money going towards there community i would argue the the banksy art prints are extremely underpriced... there almost donating them to the locals... I agree they want EVERYONE to see the situation over there... but its also 3x's futher away 16 hour flights multi stop flights for 3x's more money 2500 usd round trip... sorta difficult for us to just drop everything work/family/commitments and travel out there CBL... alot easier being in the UK imo... +1 Foreman, as I agree with everything you said. I am in the US, and I own a business so its impossible for me to get away at this time of the year. On top of that, its about 3k for me to go over and back in expense and I would much rather pay a local guy a grand or two to get me a print, knowing the money is going into that area to be spent than lining the pockets of some tout. I think we all agree the point of the Ghetto in Bethlehem is to draw attention to the area and issues, and that is being done by the publicity the event has stirred in the media, by the numerous forum threads that turn to debate and information gathering, and by the relatively few people that actually travel over to see it in person. But the notion we need to focus on the viewing it for ourselves first hand and therefore putting restrictions on local buyers in attempt to force people to see it in that one dimensional way is selling the bigger picture of the cause short. This isn't the 1950's where the only way you knew about a region is to visit it or be one of the semi-concerned people who's views could be tainted by the one or two news providers they had access to. With global media and the various sources of information available VIA the internet, we don't need to see the situation first hand to understand the scope of issues surrounding the area. All we need to do is have the open debates this has stirred and research it on our own to come to the realization there are issues that need to be addressed, and I think POW could have accomplished that without the qualification demands. That's bollocks, it's palestine, no, it's not the 1950's, they've been bombed into the middle ages. The charity is one thing, the aim of SG is to also increase tourism to the region to boost the local economy. POW aren't attempting to just highlight the issues.. they're encouraging us to go see it for ourselves. It's open until the 25th.. the rationing of prints will encourage more people to go.. simple really.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 11:11:20 GMT 1, So as long as you "look right" than there's no questions asked? I know I've heard that before somewhere..... I don't think it's about "looking right", and I don't think that anyone on here would endorse that kind of ugly thinking......so don't paraphrase on behalf of others....
Indeed..
So as long as you "look right" than there's no questions asked? I know I've heard that before somewhere..... I don't think it's about "looking right", and I don't think that anyone on here would endorse that kind of ugly thinking......so don't paraphrase on behalf of others.... Indeed..
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 11:14:41 GMT 1, Pow are being careful for the following reason only. They are keeping as many flags back through the month as possible to make sure that people from other countries who are travelling over get the chance to pick up such an amazing piece. They are simply worried that people are just ringing up contacts and asking them to go, which defeats the point a little bit. They want YOU to go if at all possible. To see the wall, the art, the city etc. The Banksy is sort of a reward, that you obviously have to pay for. If you really want a reward and have the money I would try and place a bid on the Toxic Mary and Flying Copper colour ways that they have. The latter in pink could look vvvv cool. If you are thinking of going this weekend. GO! There are stil flags available!
respect
Pow are being careful for the following reason only. They are keeping as many flags back through the month as possible to make sure that people from other countries who are travelling over get the chance to pick up such an amazing piece. They are simply worried that people are just ringing up contacts and asking them to go, which defeats the point a little bit. They want YOU to go if at all possible. To see the wall, the art, the city etc. The Banksy is sort of a reward, that you obviously have to pay for. If you really want a reward and have the money I would try and place a bid on the Toxic Mary and Flying Copper colour ways that they have. The latter in pink could look vvvv cool. If you are thinking of going this weekend. GO! There are stil flags available! respect
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by krazy on Dec 8, 2007 11:44:54 GMT 1, Some very good responses here. I tend to err on the side of PoW trying to keep as many flags as possible. I'm just glad my friend got a print that he's wanted for a long long time!
The intention of my post wasn't to detract from the great work that they are doing by holding the show there. I think it's fantastic! I just hope that some locals aren't feeling discriminated against by being talked out of buying prints. Maybe this was an isolated incident? Who knows... I can't judge unless I was there.
Some very good responses here. I tend to err on the side of PoW trying to keep as many flags as possible. I'm just glad my friend got a print that he's wanted for a long long time!
The intention of my post wasn't to detract from the great work that they are doing by holding the show there. I think it's fantastic! I just hope that some locals aren't feeling discriminated against by being talked out of buying prints. Maybe this was an isolated incident? Who knows... I can't judge unless I was there.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by ray on Dec 8, 2007 12:06:06 GMT 1, Ah Nuart...Your true colors come out. You disagree with something you read so make a personal attack on the person that wrote it instead of debating the point. That's very very brave of you.
Ah Nuart...Your true colors come out. You disagree with something you read so make a personal attack on the person that wrote it instead of debating the point. That's very very brave of you.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by carlito on Dec 8, 2007 12:20:58 GMT 1, okay I read the first couple of posts,,,so can anyone give an insight into why a local was discouraged from purchasing? Does honestly seem pretty silly....
okay I read the first couple of posts,,,so can anyone give an insight into why a local was discouraged from purchasing? Does honestly seem pretty silly....
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by krazy on Dec 8, 2007 12:32:39 GMT 1, okay I read the first couple of posts,,,so can anyone give an insight into why a local was discouraged from purchasing? Does honestly seem pretty silly....
In all truth, we don't know. I started the thread to hopefully gain some insight (which I believe I have).
I was also interested in hearing if anyone else that had been saw something similar, or if this was a (hopefully) isolated incident.
okay I read the first couple of posts,,,so can anyone give an insight into why a local was discouraged from purchasing? Does honestly seem pretty silly.... In all truth, we don't know. I started the thread to hopefully gain some insight (which I believe I have). I was also interested in hearing if anyone else that had been saw something similar, or if this was a (hopefully) isolated incident.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by jam on Dec 8, 2007 12:37:46 GMT 1, I spoke to a few guys that were at the Ghetto and they relayed similar stories of seeing who looked to be 'locals' being turned away and told the prints are all gone, only to have them sold to people from the UK minutes later.
I spoke to a few guys that were at the Ghetto and they relayed similar stories of seeing who looked to be 'locals' being turned away and told the prints are all gone, only to have them sold to people from the UK minutes later.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 12:42:37 GMT 1, okay I read the first couple of posts,,,so can anyone give an insight into why a local was discouraged from purchasing? Does honestly seem pretty silly.... In all truth, we don't know. I started the thread to hopefully gain some insight (which I believe I have). I was also interested in hearing if anyone else that had been saw something similar, or if this was a (hopefully) isolated incident.
Nope, it's certainly not an isolated incident. I know of several cases where people have contacted friends in tel aviv, promised them 500$ if they can get a voucher... first one was refused and rightly so, went back the next day and apparently convinced them. I know of people being asked for the $1000 up front.. again, jewish friends of friends who then bottled out... there's also the russians sending in people trying to buy everything banksy.. Guarenteed that there'll be numerous online galleries desperately trying to contact friends of friends of friends in Israel to make the trip on their behalf... POW are not stupid, they're simply trying to prevent fat lazy westerners taking the piss. If this makes life a bit difficult for other buyers.. so be it. And trust me, there aren't many "local" Palestinians with 3.5k to splash on a trolleys.
okay I read the first couple of posts,,,so can anyone give an insight into why a local was discouraged from purchasing? Does honestly seem pretty silly.... In all truth, we don't know. I started the thread to hopefully gain some insight (which I believe I have). I was also interested in hearing if anyone else that had been saw something similar, or if this was a (hopefully) isolated incident. Nope, it's certainly not an isolated incident. I know of several cases where people have contacted friends in tel aviv, promised them 500$ if they can get a voucher... first one was refused and rightly so, went back the next day and apparently convinced them. I know of people being asked for the $1000 up front.. again, jewish friends of friends who then bottled out... there's also the russians sending in people trying to buy everything banksy.. Guarenteed that there'll be numerous online galleries desperately trying to contact friends of friends of friends in Israel to make the trip on their behalf... POW are not stupid, they're simply trying to prevent fat lazy westerners taking the piss. If this makes life a bit difficult for other buyers.. so be it. And trust me, there aren't many "local" Palestinians with 3.5k to splash on a trolleys.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by ray on Dec 8, 2007 12:52:49 GMT 1, In all truth, we don't know. I started the thread to hopefully gain some insight (which I believe I have). I was also interested in hearing if anyone else that had been saw something similar, or if this was a (hopefully) isolated incident. Nope, it's certainly not an isolated incident. I know of several cases where people have contacted friends in tel aviv, promised them 500$ if they can get a voucher... first one was refused and rightly so, went back the next day and apparently convinced them. I know of people being asked for the $1000 up front.. again, jewish friends of friends who then bottled out... there's also the russians sending in people trying to buy everything banksy.. Guarenteed that there'll be numerous online galleries desperately trying to contact friends of friends of friends in Israel to make the trip on their behalf... POW are not stupid, they're simply trying to prevent fat lazy westerners taking the piss. If this makes life a bit difficult for other buyers.. so be it. And trust me, there aren't many "local" Palestinians with 3.5k to splash on a trolleys.
That's quite an assumption. So what if a Jewish person or a Palestinian emigrated to the UK and made the trip? Also, not all westerners are "fat and lazy" and "hiring mules" to get a voucher. Now you're just being prejudiced.
In all truth, we don't know. I started the thread to hopefully gain some insight (which I believe I have). I was also interested in hearing if anyone else that had been saw something similar, or if this was a (hopefully) isolated incident. Nope, it's certainly not an isolated incident. I know of several cases where people have contacted friends in tel aviv, promised them 500$ if they can get a voucher... first one was refused and rightly so, went back the next day and apparently convinced them. I know of people being asked for the $1000 up front.. again, jewish friends of friends who then bottled out... there's also the russians sending in people trying to buy everything banksy.. Guarenteed that there'll be numerous online galleries desperately trying to contact friends of friends of friends in Israel to make the trip on their behalf... POW are not stupid, they're simply trying to prevent fat lazy westerners taking the piss. If this makes life a bit difficult for other buyers.. so be it. And trust me, there aren't many "local" Palestinians with 3.5k to splash on a trolleys. That's quite an assumption. So what if a Jewish person or a Palestinian emigrated to the UK and made the trip? Also, not all westerners are "fat and lazy" and "hiring mules" to get a voucher. Now you're just being prejudiced.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by buffin on Dec 8, 2007 13:02:11 GMT 1, Why do some people have to find a negative with everything? Its a good thing that Banksy and POW are trying to do here for goodness sake. Move along, nothing to see here!
Why do some people have to find a negative with everything? Its a good thing that Banksy and POW are trying to do here for goodness sake. Move along, nothing to see here!
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by BONGO on Dec 8, 2007 13:15:09 GMT 1, BONGO CAN CONFIRM THAT SG HAS BEEN TARGETED BY US & RUSSIAN DEALERS WHO ARE SENDING THEIR BADLY SUITED AGENTS TO BUY UP THE BANKSYS
BONGO QUIZZED BADLY SUITED MEN AND THEY CLAIMED THEY WERE BUYING FOR THEIR FATHER WHO IS A BIG BANKSY FAN. AGENTS THEN WENT IN AND DEMANDED TO BUY ALL BANKSYS AT ONCE FOR CASH.
POW REFUSED DESPITE PRESSURE
BONGO SMELL A RAT, BUT UNFORTUNATLEY NOT A WORTHLESS RAT
ONCE AGENTS HAVE REGISTERED FOR THEIR PRINT- AFTER MUCH ARGUING AND OFFERS OF CASH TO EASE THE PROCESS, AGENTS ENLISTING LOCALS AND FRIENDS TO ALSO REGISTER FOR VOUCHERS.
BONGO THINKS THAT POW ARE WELL AWARE OF THIS AND ARE TRYING TO KEEP PRINTS FOR ENTHUSIASTS
BONGO WITNESSED PEOPLE COMING IN TO BUY BANKSY BUT HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS AND THEN REGISTERING THE VOUCHER TO ADDRESSES IN USA
BONGO CAN CONFIRM THAT SG HAS BEEN TARGETED BY US & RUSSIAN DEALERS WHO ARE SENDING THEIR BADLY SUITED AGENTS TO BUY UP THE BANKSYS
BONGO QUIZZED BADLY SUITED MEN AND THEY CLAIMED THEY WERE BUYING FOR THEIR FATHER WHO IS A BIG BANKSY FAN. AGENTS THEN WENT IN AND DEMANDED TO BUY ALL BANKSYS AT ONCE FOR CASH.
POW REFUSED DESPITE PRESSURE
BONGO SMELL A RAT, BUT UNFORTUNATLEY NOT A WORTHLESS RAT
ONCE AGENTS HAVE REGISTERED FOR THEIR PRINT- AFTER MUCH ARGUING AND OFFERS OF CASH TO EASE THE PROCESS, AGENTS ENLISTING LOCALS AND FRIENDS TO ALSO REGISTER FOR VOUCHERS.
BONGO THINKS THAT POW ARE WELL AWARE OF THIS AND ARE TRYING TO KEEP PRINTS FOR ENTHUSIASTS
BONGO WITNESSED PEOPLE COMING IN TO BUY BANKSY BUT HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS AND THEN REGISTERING THE VOUCHER TO ADDRESSES IN USA
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 13:21:41 GMT 1, Nope, it's certainly not an isolated incident. I know of several cases where people have contacted friends in tel aviv, promised them 500$ if they can get a voucher... first one was refused and rightly so, went back the next day and apparently convinced them. I know of people being asked for the $1000 up front.. again, jewish friends of friends who then bottled out... there's also the russians sending in people trying to buy everything banksy.. Guarenteed that there'll be numerous online galleries desperately trying to contact friends of friends of friends in Israel to make the trip on their behalf... POW are not stupid, they're simply trying to prevent fat lazy westerners taking the piss. If this makes life a bit difficult for other buyers.. so be it. And trust me, there aren't many "local" Palestinians with 3.5k to splash on a trolleys. That's quite an assumption. So what if a Jewish person or a Palestinian emigrated to the UK and made the trip? Also, not all westerners are "fat and lazy" and "hiring mules" to get a voucher. Now you're just being prejudiced.
I don't know what you're trying to stir up nor what your motives are but I'm not gonna give you the satisfaction mate. There's nothing questionable about the actions of POW in Bethlehem. As for assumptions, yes, I like assuming and throwing out generalizations. I'm assuming your one of those fat lazy ignorant stupid Americans, pretty much in the same way you're assuming POW are discriminating against Palestinians.. idiot.
Nope, it's certainly not an isolated incident. I know of several cases where people have contacted friends in tel aviv, promised them 500$ if they can get a voucher... first one was refused and rightly so, went back the next day and apparently convinced them. I know of people being asked for the $1000 up front.. again, jewish friends of friends who then bottled out... there's also the russians sending in people trying to buy everything banksy.. Guarenteed that there'll be numerous online galleries desperately trying to contact friends of friends of friends in Israel to make the trip on their behalf... POW are not stupid, they're simply trying to prevent fat lazy westerners taking the piss. If this makes life a bit difficult for other buyers.. so be it. And trust me, there aren't many "local" Palestinians with 3.5k to splash on a trolleys. That's quite an assumption. So what if a Jewish person or a Palestinian emigrated to the UK and made the trip? Also, not all westerners are "fat and lazy" and "hiring mules" to get a voucher. Now you're just being prejudiced. I don't know what you're trying to stir up nor what your motives are but I'm not gonna give you the satisfaction mate. There's nothing questionable about the actions of POW in Bethlehem. As for assumptions, yes, I like assuming and throwing out generalizations. I'm assuming your one of those fat lazy ignorant stupid Americans, pretty much in the same way you're assuming POW are discriminating against Palestinians.. idiot.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by BONGO on Dec 8, 2007 13:23:21 GMT 1, BONGO ADD THAT THE FIRST FEW ALLOCATED BANKSY VOUCHERS WERE TO AGENTS NOT ART ENTHUSIASTS SADLY.
BONGO UNDERSTAND ENOUGH RUSSIAN TO WORK OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON
BONGO DID NOT SEE ANY ART ENTHUSIASTS BUYING ON THE TUESDAY MORNING( APART FROM BONGO )
BONGO DID HOWER SEE A FEW BEMUSED LOCALS WANDERING ABOUT THE GHETTO TRYING TO WORK OUT WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT
BONGO ADD THAT THE FIRST FEW ALLOCATED BANKSY VOUCHERS WERE TO AGENTS NOT ART ENTHUSIASTS SADLY.
BONGO UNDERSTAND ENOUGH RUSSIAN TO WORK OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON
BONGO DID NOT SEE ANY ART ENTHUSIASTS BUYING ON THE TUESDAY MORNING( APART FROM BONGO )
BONGO DID HOWER SEE A FEW BEMUSED LOCALS WANDERING ABOUT THE GHETTO TRYING TO WORK OUT WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by ray on Dec 8, 2007 13:24:20 GMT 1, Reread the first post. krazys friend was not Russian and not buying for anyone but himself. It took him 2 days to convince them to sell him a print. Perhaps they need a sign out front reading "No locals allowed". That would go over like a lead balloon.
Reread the first post. krazys friend was not Russian and not buying for anyone but himself. It took him 2 days to convince them to sell him a print. Perhaps they need a sign out front reading "No locals allowed". That would go over like a lead balloon.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 13:24:53 GMT 1, Reread the first post. krazys friend was not Russian and not buying for anyone but himself. It took him 2 days to convince them to sell him a print. Perhaps they need a sign out front reading "No locals allowed". That would go over like a lead balloon.
p*ick
Reread the first post. krazys friend was not Russian and not buying for anyone but himself. It took him 2 days to convince them to sell him a print. Perhaps they need a sign out front reading "No locals allowed". That would go over like a lead balloon. p*ick
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by BONGO on Dec 8, 2007 13:26:30 GMT 1, BONGO DOES NOT MAKE ANY JUDGMENT OF YOUR FRIENDS SITUATION.
BONGO ONLY WRITE WHAT BONGO OBSERVE AT OPENING
BONGO DOES NOT MAKE ANY JUDGMENT OF YOUR FRIENDS SITUATION.
BONGO ONLY WRITE WHAT BONGO OBSERVE AT OPENING
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by ray on Dec 8, 2007 13:27:05 GMT 1, Nuart, have a nice day and a very merry Xmass.
Nuart, have a nice day and a very merry Xmass.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by numusic on Dec 8, 2007 13:28:35 GMT 1, Nuart, have a nice day and a very merry Xmass.
same to you, with Bells on
Nuart, have a nice day and a very merry Xmass. same to you, with Bells on
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by BONGO on Dec 8, 2007 13:28:59 GMT 1, ON VOUCHER POW HAVE SMALL PRINT STATING THAT AN ORDER CAN BE CANCELLED AT ANY TIME.
BONGO THINK THIS IS INTERESTING
ON VOUCHER POW HAVE SMALL PRINT STATING THAT AN ORDER CAN BE CANCELLED AT ANY TIME.
BONGO THINK THIS IS INTERESTING
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by scud80 on Dec 8, 2007 13:29:38 GMT 1, On the other hand... if the locally based people are intending to buy the prints and sell them online.. then LET THEM. All that's going to do is put MORE money into the local community.
while i agree with this, why would the person from jerusalem necessarily be considered a "local"? he's obviously much closer to SG than people coming from abroad, but i assume their charity is aimed to assist the palestinian locals and not the israelis (and the person in question may be neither for all i know), and in a certain sense selling to israelis who plan on reselling runs counter to their whole stated purpose for having the ghetto there.
On the other hand... if the locally based people are intending to buy the prints and sell them online.. then LET THEM. All that's going to do is put MORE money into the local community. while i agree with this, why would the person from jerusalem necessarily be considered a "local"? he's obviously much closer to SG than people coming from abroad, but i assume their charity is aimed to assist the palestinian locals and not the israelis (and the person in question may be neither for all i know), and in a certain sense selling to israelis who plan on reselling runs counter to their whole stated purpose for having the ghetto there.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by graeme501 on Dec 8, 2007 13:31:34 GMT 1, says on the site that santas ghetto is not associated to any political party, country or whatnot
says on the site that santas ghetto is not associated to any political party, country or whatnot
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by scud80 on Dec 8, 2007 13:34:28 GMT 1, not explicitly, since otherwise i doubt they'd have been allowed into the country
"why are you coming to israel?"
"we're opening an art store to raise money for palestinians."
and they're never heard from again.
not explicitly, since otherwise i doubt they'd have been allowed into the country
"why are you coming to israel?"
"we're opening an art store to raise money for palestinians."
and they're never heard from again.
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by ejvaze on Dec 8, 2007 13:53:51 GMT 1,
I find this thread amazing!
Locals buying prints
Locals knowing anything about this art
Locals having the money to buy the art
Locals wanting to flip the art
I am sorry this is all MAD as far as I am concerned
Locals being USED more like.
As I understand it 50% of the population are WITHOUT a JOB and buying art is I am sure the last thing on their minds I am sure they are more concerned about trying to survive and make a living.
'in a part of the world ravaged by conflict, poverty and dust'
Remember I have seen the place albeit briefly. I only wish I could go back, NOT to buy prints or bid on art BUT to see more of the place and talk more to the people most effected ie the locals but I fear Israeli security would think it strange 2 short visits within days of each other and I haven't got the funds.
Prints prints prints money money money as I said in my very 1st thread on this subject I am fed up with all this talk.
Banksy wants us all to THINK about the situation and to back the cause NOT all this talk about prints.
I am PLEASED POW are being tough on Russians and the like which gives the real collectors a chance and those who have spent the time and money to get out there and see the place for themselves and hopefully spent a bit of money in Bethlehem and not just at the Ghetto. AND before you all say something it will NOT be just a rich bunch of collectors either hopefully just an ordinary bunch of lads who will all leave a little WISER.
By the way I believe if you are Jewish and from Israel you cannot get into the West Bank and thats nothing to do with POW thats the Israeli Governments rules
OK so now some of you will no doubt be neging me after my rant ;D
I find this thread amazing! Locals buying prints Locals knowing anything about this art Locals having the money to buy the art Locals wanting to flip the art I am sorry this is all MAD as far as I am concerned Locals being USED more like. As I understand it 50% of the population are WITHOUT a JOB and buying art is I am sure the last thing on their minds I am sure they are more concerned about trying to survive and make a living. 'in a part of the world ravaged by conflict, poverty and dust' Remember I have seen the place albeit briefly. I only wish I could go back, NOT to buy prints or bid on art BUT to see more of the place and talk more to the people most effected ie the locals but I fear Israeli security would think it strange 2 short visits within days of each other and I haven't got the funds. Prints prints prints money money money as I said in my very 1st thread on this subject I am fed up with all this talk. Banksy wants us all to THINK about the situation and to back the cause NOT all this talk about prints. I am PLEASED POW are being tough on Russians and the like which gives the real collectors a chance and those who have spent the time and money to get out there and see the place for themselves and hopefully spent a bit of money in Bethlehem and not just at the Ghetto. AND before you all say something it will NOT be just a rich bunch of collectors either hopefully just an ordinary bunch of lads who will all leave a little WISER. By the way I believe if you are Jewish and from Israel you cannot get into the West Bank and thats nothing to do with POW thats the Israeli Governments rules OK so now some of you will no doubt be neging me after my rant ;D
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PoW Discriminating against locals??, by buffin on Dec 8, 2007 13:57:50 GMT 1, +1 Vazie when I can. Please feel free to rant away whenever you like.
+1 Vazie when I can. Please feel free to rant away whenever you like.
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