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ART AND DISINFORMATION, by numusic on Oct 18, 2007 19:23:10 GMT 1, I actually think that's completely wrong.. it's an interpretation and misreading of post modernism from the perspective of a modernist painter who was probably schooled in the late 70's by tutors schooled on modernism. The post modern sensibilities of cut n paste, sampling, concepts, diversity and all that goes with it simply allows for EVERYTHING, including modernism and dennings concept of Neo Modernism. It isn't dogmatic like conceptual art which is in effect the ultimate modernisty expression. I think what we're seeing now is in part down to the likes of Hirst, Emin and the YBA's.. concept art without the intellectualisation of the work by the artist. It's been taken a stage further is all.. Now news, media and celebrity politics are obviously corporate entities obsessed with spin, society needs to find alternative and more trusting ways of getting information, a very plain speaking voice is required and I think this new art does that very well,and in a way that we, the masses, can understand. It's often dark, funny, takes the piss , is topical and deals with very human issues. Something conceptual art and Modernisms couldn't do.. hence Urban Art maybe.. or something like that.... my head hurts....
Keep away from the magnets dude !
I actually think that's completely wrong.. it's an interpretation and misreading of post modernism from the perspective of a modernist painter who was probably schooled in the late 70's by tutors schooled on modernism. The post modern sensibilities of cut n paste, sampling, concepts, diversity and all that goes with it simply allows for EVERYTHING, including modernism and dennings concept of Neo Modernism. It isn't dogmatic like conceptual art which is in effect the ultimate modernisty expression. I think what we're seeing now is in part down to the likes of Hirst, Emin and the YBA's.. concept art without the intellectualisation of the work by the artist. It's been taken a stage further is all.. Now news, media and celebrity politics are obviously corporate entities obsessed with spin, society needs to find alternative and more trusting ways of getting information, a very plain speaking voice is required and I think this new art does that very well,and in a way that we, the masses, can understand. It's often dark, funny, takes the piss , is topical and deals with very human issues. Something conceptual art and Modernisms couldn't do.. hence Urban Art maybe.. or something like that.... my head hurts.... Keep away from the magnets dude ! |
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ART AND DISINFORMATION, by johnas on Oct 18, 2007 19:56:38 GMT 1, Keep away from the magnets dude !
i think "Keep away from the Magners" may be more apt....
Keep away from the magnets dude ! i think "Keep away from the Magners" may be more apt.... |
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ART AND DISINFORMATION, by numusic on Oct 18, 2007 20:28:34 GMT 1, Keep away from the magnets dude ! i think "Keep away from the Magners" may be more apt....
;D
Keep away from the magnets dude ! i think "Keep away from the Magners" may be more apt.... ;D |
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ART AND DISINFORMATION, by ambrosiabaptism on Oct 18, 2007 20:46:15 GMT 1, I actually think that's completely wrong.. it's an interpretation and misreading of post modernism from the perspective of a modernist painter who was probably schooled in the late 70's by tutors schooled on modernism. The post modern sensibilities of cut n paste, sampling, concepts, diversity and all that goes with it simply allows for EVERYTHING, including modernism and dennings concept of Neo Modernism. It isn't dogmatic like conceptual art which is in effect the ultimate modernisty expression. I think what we're seeing now is in part down to the likes of Hirst, Emin and the YBA's.. concept art without the intellectualisation of the work by the artist. It's been taken a stage further is all.. Now news, media and celebrity politics are obviously corporate entities obsessed with spin, society needs to find alternative and more trusting ways of getting information, a very plain speaking voice is required and I think this new art does that very well,and in a way that we, the masses, can understand. It's often dark, funny, takes the piss , is topical and deals with very human issues. Something conceptual art and Modernisms couldn't do.. hence Urban Art maybe.. or something like that....
Like what your saying here Nu +1
I actually think that's completely wrong.. it's an interpretation and misreading of post modernism from the perspective of a modernist painter who was probably schooled in the late 70's by tutors schooled on modernism. The post modern sensibilities of cut n paste, sampling, concepts, diversity and all that goes with it simply allows for EVERYTHING, including modernism and dennings concept of Neo Modernism. It isn't dogmatic like conceptual art which is in effect the ultimate modernisty expression. I think what we're seeing now is in part down to the likes of Hirst, Emin and the YBA's.. concept art without the intellectualisation of the work by the artist. It's been taken a stage further is all.. Now news, media and celebrity politics are obviously corporate entities obsessed with spin, society needs to find alternative and more trusting ways of getting information, a very plain speaking voice is required and I think this new art does that very well,and in a way that we, the masses, can understand. It's often dark, funny, takes the piss , is topical and deals with very human issues. Something conceptual art and Modernisms couldn't do.. hence Urban Art maybe.. or something like that.... Like what your saying here Nu +1 |
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ART AND DISINFORMATION, by Deleted on Oct 18, 2007 21:46:02 GMT 1, I actually think that's completely wrong.. it's an interpretation and misreading of post modernism from the perspective of a modernist painter who was probably schooled in the late 70's by tutors schooled on modernism.
Too me, his interpretation of postmodernism refers to what it has evolved into rather than what it should be i.e. "over-intellectualisation and cod-philosophy". 'Cod Philosophy being exactly what you said below about Hirst etc. - "concept art without the intellectualisation of the work by the artist"
I think what you have said at the end of this post is exactly the same idea as Denning is trying to get at. Which is exactly why Denning has been sucked into this little "scene". The essence of what he calls neomodernism is very similar to the philosophies of street art.
I think what we're seeing now is in part down to the likes of Hirst, Emin and the YBA's.. concept art without the intellectualisation of the work by the artist. It's been taken a stage further is all.. Now news, media and celebrity politics are obviously corporate entities obsessed with spin, society needs to find alternative and more trusting ways of getting information, a very plain speaking voice is required and I think this new art does that very well,and in a way that we, the masses, can understand. It's often dark, funny, takes the piss , is topical and deals with very human issues. Something conceptual art and Modernisms couldn't do.. hence Urban Art maybe..
The post modern sensibilities of cut n paste, sampling, concepts, diversity and all that goes with it simply allows for EVERYTHING, including modernism and dennings concept of Neo Modernism. It isn't dogmatic like conceptual art which is in effect the ultimate modernisty expression.
I think what Guy is saying is that Post-Modernism conceptual art i.e. Hirst analyses the subject of art itself which is wrong. Whereas Modernism does not so this.
"In the quest for originality the artists, guided by the critics and philosophers, turned their eye inwards onto the subject of art itself as subject. In essence, it was the only choice that could follow on from the mutated Modernism that followed what was undoubtedly the United States’ greatest contribution to western art."
In this context, Conceptual art is not in effect the ultimate modernisity expression.
Anyone else want to contribute? My head is fucking killing me!
I actually think that's completely wrong.. it's an interpretation and misreading of post modernism from the perspective of a modernist painter who was probably schooled in the late 70's by tutors schooled on modernism. Too me, his interpretation of postmodernism refers to what it has evolved into rather than what it should be i.e. "over-intellectualisation and cod-philosophy". 'Cod Philosophy being exactly what you said below about Hirst etc. - "concept art without the intellectualisation of the work by the artist" I think what you have said at the end of this post is exactly the same idea as Denning is trying to get at. Which is exactly why Denning has been sucked into this little "scene". The essence of what he calls neomodernism is very similar to the philosophies of street art. I think what we're seeing now is in part down to the likes of Hirst, Emin and the YBA's.. concept art without the intellectualisation of the work by the artist. It's been taken a stage further is all.. Now news, media and celebrity politics are obviously corporate entities obsessed with spin, society needs to find alternative and more trusting ways of getting information, a very plain speaking voice is required and I think this new art does that very well,and in a way that we, the masses, can understand. It's often dark, funny, takes the piss , is topical and deals with very human issues. Something conceptual art and Modernisms couldn't do.. hence Urban Art maybe.. The post modern sensibilities of cut n paste, sampling, concepts, diversity and all that goes with it simply allows for EVERYTHING, including modernism and dennings concept of Neo Modernism. It isn't dogmatic like conceptual art which is in effect the ultimate modernisty expression. I think what Guy is saying is that Post-Modernism conceptual art i.e. Hirst analyses the subject of art itself which is wrong. Whereas Modernism does not so this. "In the quest for originality the artists, guided by the critics and philosophers, turned their eye inwards onto the subject of art itself as subject. In essence, it was the only choice that could follow on from the mutated Modernism that followed what was undoubtedly the United States’ greatest contribution to western art." In this context, Conceptual art is not in effect the ultimate modernisity expression. Anyone else want to contribute? My head is fucking killing me! |
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ART AND DISINFORMATION, by numusic on Oct 18, 2007 22:15:42 GMT 1, Anyone else want to contribute? My head is f**king killing me!
he he..
Anyone else want to contribute? My head is f**king killing me! he he.. |
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ART AND DISINFORMATION, by daz205 on Oct 18, 2007 23:50:43 GMT 1, life is a game of chess
life imitates art
who`d figure
life is a game of chess
life imitates art
who`d figure
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