discoduster
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PayPal advice needed..., by discoduster on Oct 14, 2007 18:34:35 GMT 1, Heared a few horror stories about PayPal on previous threads and I personally got stung a couple years back and vowed not to accept high value payment
However, Sold quite a high value print to the states recently and they've payed via PayPal.
Providing the print is sent via signed for, etc. Can they pull a fast one and say goods haven't arrived therefore getting paypal to reclaim their payment.
Any tips?
DD
Heared a few horror stories about PayPal on previous threads and I personally got stung a couple years back and vowed not to accept high value payment
However, Sold quite a high value print to the states recently and they've payed via PayPal.
Providing the print is sent via signed for, etc. Can they pull a fast one and say goods haven't arrived therefore getting paypal to reclaim their payment.
Any tips?
DD
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Richard
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PayPal advice needed..., by Richard on Oct 14, 2007 19:01:36 GMT 1, Make sure you get it signed for and there should be no problems. Also make sure you ship to a confirmed PayPal address.
Make sure you get it signed for and there should be no problems. Also make sure you ship to a confirmed PayPal address.
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PayPal advice needed..., by corblimeylimey on Oct 14, 2007 19:04:03 GMT 1, Dunno, if you've got proof of delivery to the address they supplied I don't see that they'd have a leg to stand on, it would be handy of course to get them to confirm before posting that is the address they'd like it to go to. Even if it turns up damaged the insurance will sort it out.
Dunno, if you've got proof of delivery to the address they supplied I don't see that they'd have a leg to stand on, it would be handy of course to get them to confirm before posting that is the address they'd like it to go to. Even if it turns up damaged the insurance will sort it out.
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Richard
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PayPal advice needed..., by Richard on Oct 14, 2007 19:28:19 GMT 1, The only thing I can think of is them saying the item arrived but was just an empty box. I'm not sure what PayPal would do in that situation...
The only thing I can think of is them saying the item arrived but was just an empty box. I'm not sure what PayPal would do in that situation...
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Dead Elvis
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PayPal advice needed..., by Dead Elvis on Oct 14, 2007 19:40:51 GMT 1, If the item is sent with full tracking and is signed for, then you have done everything you can on your end to cover yourself from fraud. You have physical proof that the item was received and signed for. If paypal opens an investigation, all you need to do is provide the tracking info. Worst-case scenario (empty box or damage) is that a dispute will have to be opened with the shipping company, but the buyer will initiate that, and it's their problem. I got scammed this way a few months ago when I sent something to Italy. I now will ONLY ship overseas from the states with fully tracking/signature, regardless of the value.
If the item is sent with full tracking and is signed for, then you have done everything you can on your end to cover yourself from fraud. You have physical proof that the item was received and signed for. If paypal opens an investigation, all you need to do is provide the tracking info. Worst-case scenario (empty box or damage) is that a dispute will have to be opened with the shipping company, but the buyer will initiate that, and it's their problem. I got scammed this way a few months ago when I sent something to Italy. I now will ONLY ship overseas from the states with fully tracking/signature, regardless of the value.
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PayPal advice needed..., by verbalkint on Oct 14, 2007 20:00:07 GMT 1, i sell 70k a month through ebay and most through paypal payments and every single time someone makes a bullshit claim againsed me paypal ALWAYS fall on the side of the buyer. for a one off transaction, do not use them.
I just sent a diamond to a bloke in italy, he said it hadnt arrived so i checked the tracking and it had arrived, then he said it had arrived but was an empty package and make a claim, i put my side accross and gave paypal the tracking number, they then emailed me on the friday saying i had 3 days to fax them the tracking slip and a full statement, i dont have a fax machine but i found one and sent it to them, they closed the case in favour of the bidder saying they had not received my fax, but they dont give you a number to talk to someone and check. Once they close it you cannot do fuck all, even if you can prove you sent the fax. Even if they do receive the fax they nearly always find in favour of the buyer. Plus for all the hassle you have to go through, unless its over £200 i cannot be bothered anymore.
Compaired to most i have had mainly good experiences with paypal, but i would not accept a one off payment through there if i were you unless the bidder has good feedback or you speak to them and can tell they are sound. Im not trying to shit you up here, but paypal always favour the buyer. not worth the risk. But if the buyer does screw you, let him know you will end his life, that tends to do the trick. Its not worth going to italy for £186, but if it was someone in the UK i would not let it go
i sell 70k a month through ebay and most through paypal payments and every single time someone makes a bullshit claim againsed me paypal ALWAYS fall on the side of the buyer. for a one off transaction, do not use them.
I just sent a diamond to a bloke in italy, he said it hadnt arrived so i checked the tracking and it had arrived, then he said it had arrived but was an empty package and make a claim, i put my side accross and gave paypal the tracking number, they then emailed me on the friday saying i had 3 days to fax them the tracking slip and a full statement, i dont have a fax machine but i found one and sent it to them, they closed the case in favour of the bidder saying they had not received my fax, but they dont give you a number to talk to someone and check. Once they close it you cannot do fuck all, even if you can prove you sent the fax. Even if they do receive the fax they nearly always find in favour of the buyer. Plus for all the hassle you have to go through, unless its over £200 i cannot be bothered anymore.
Compaired to most i have had mainly good experiences with paypal, but i would not accept a one off payment through there if i were you unless the bidder has good feedback or you speak to them and can tell they are sound. Im not trying to shit you up here, but paypal always favour the buyer. not worth the risk. But if the buyer does screw you, let him know you will end his life, that tends to do the trick. Its not worth going to italy for £186, but if it was someone in the UK i would not let it go
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discoduster
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PayPal advice needed..., by discoduster on Oct 14, 2007 20:42:14 GMT 1, Thanks guys
Why do I feel nervous? 
DD
Thanks guys Why do I feel nervous? DD |
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PayPal advice needed..., by verbalkint on Oct 14, 2007 22:07:07 GMT 1, seriously mate, im not trying to make you feel nervous, but everything i said is true. there are good points to paypal, its quick, easy and conveniant, it enables you to sell to people who cannot be arsed with cheques and so the fees you pay are easily outweighed by the extra bids you attract be having it as a payment option, but you have to be aware of the risks.
Now if someone tried to rip me off for a grand, i would persue them for years on general principle, i would do everything i could to make their life a misery, but i am a vindictive bastard and i do hate people a bit too easily, but that is the attitude you must addopt with scammers on ebay, if someone tries to rob you, take 10 times more than they tried to take from you. only 1 in 1000 ebayers are dicks, even fewer than that are actually bona fide scammers, but they are around. If i sell an item over £1000 and the ebayer has no feedback and an unconfirmed address i do not send their item for 2 weeks, if they have paid with a stolen credit card you will know by then. just another tip.
seriously mate, im not trying to make you feel nervous, but everything i said is true. there are good points to paypal, its quick, easy and conveniant, it enables you to sell to people who cannot be arsed with cheques and so the fees you pay are easily outweighed by the extra bids you attract be having it as a payment option, but you have to be aware of the risks.
Now if someone tried to rip me off for a grand, i would persue them for years on general principle, i would do everything i could to make their life a misery, but i am a vindictive bastard and i do hate people a bit too easily, but that is the attitude you must addopt with scammers on ebay, if someone tries to rob you, take 10 times more than they tried to take from you. only 1 in 1000 ebayers are dicks, even fewer than that are actually bona fide scammers, but they are around. If i sell an item over £1000 and the ebayer has no feedback and an unconfirmed address i do not send their item for 2 weeks, if they have paid with a stolen credit card you will know by then. just another tip.
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Richard
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PayPal advice needed..., by Richard on Oct 14, 2007 22:28:28 GMT 1, seriously mate, im not trying to make you feel nervous, but everything i said is true. there are good points to paypal, its quick, easy and conveniant, it enables you to sell to people who cannot be arsed with cheques and so the fees you pay are easily outweighed by the extra bids you attract be having it as a payment option, but you have to be aware of the risks. Now if someone tried to rip me off for a grand, i would persue them for years on general principle, i would do everything i could to make their life a misery, but i am a vindictive bastard and i do hate people a bit too easily, but that is the attitude you must addopt with scammers on ebay, if someone tries to rob you, take 10 times more than they tried to take from you. only 1 in 1000 ebayers are d**ks, even fewer than that are actually bona fide scammers, but they are around. If i sell an item over £1000 and the ebayer has no feedback and an unconfirmed address i do not send their item for 2 weeks, if they have paid with a stolen credit card you will know by then. just another tip.
Don't be so sure. I was a Gold PSeller a few months ago and on the power seller forum one guy said he got a chargeback after 8 months from a stolen card.
seriously mate, im not trying to make you feel nervous, but everything i said is true. there are good points to paypal, its quick, easy and conveniant, it enables you to sell to people who cannot be arsed with cheques and so the fees you pay are easily outweighed by the extra bids you attract be having it as a payment option, but you have to be aware of the risks. Now if someone tried to rip me off for a grand, i would persue them for years on general principle, i would do everything i could to make their life a misery, but i am a vindictive bastard and i do hate people a bit too easily, but that is the attitude you must addopt with scammers on ebay, if someone tries to rob you, take 10 times more than they tried to take from you. only 1 in 1000 ebayers are d**ks, even fewer than that are actually bona fide scammers, but they are around. If i sell an item over £1000 and the ebayer has no feedback and an unconfirmed address i do not send their item for 2 weeks, if they have paid with a stolen credit card you will know by then. just another tip. Don't be so sure. I was a Gold PSeller a few months ago and on the power seller forum one guy said he got a chargeback after 8 months from a stolen card. |
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