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Falling Numbers!, by Daniel Silk on Oct 11, 2007 17:37:58 GMT 1, I was thinking about how many prints must be damaged in the post or by bad framing over the years  Out of each print run loads must be ruined every year, and the numbers of prints left must get smaller and smaller  making them rarer and rarer 
Does anyone know any figures on this? anyone make a guess? ;D
I was thinking about how many prints must be damaged in the post or by bad framing over the years Out of each print run loads must be ruined every year, and the numbers of prints left must get smaller and smaller making them rarer and rarer Does anyone know any figures on this? anyone make a guess? ;D |
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Falling Numbers!, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 11, 2007 17:40:45 GMT 1, damaged? no problem we'll just print more
damaged? no problem we'll just print more
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Falling Numbers!, by artpartment on Oct 11, 2007 17:43:08 GMT 1, i dont think that people which pays hunderts of euros for a print dont gonna take care of it .also the shipping in the normal poster tubes are quiet safe .so i dont think that there gonna be many damaged once around.
i dont think that people which pays hunderts of euros for a print dont gonna take care of it .also the shipping in the normal poster tubes are quiet safe .so i dont think that there gonna be many damaged once around.
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Falling Numbers!, by bruns4 on Oct 11, 2007 17:43:53 GMT 1, With the older prints especially, I would bet a lot fell victim to poor framing and/or care. "Why spend hundreds on framing for a print that cost 40?" Anyone who feels like donating any of these unfortunate mishaps can PM me 
With the older prints especially, I would bet a lot fell victim to poor framing and/or care. "Why spend hundreds on framing for a print that cost 40?" Anyone who feels like donating any of these unfortunate mishaps can PM me |
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Falling Numbers!, by Daniel Silk on Oct 11, 2007 17:45:03 GMT 1, i dont think that people which pays hunderts of euros for a print dont gonna take care of it .also the shipping in the normal poster tubes are quiet safe .so i dont think that there gonna be many damaged once around.
I dont know  From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board
i dont think that people which pays hunderts of euros for a print dont gonna take care of it .also the shipping in the normal poster tubes are quiet safe .so i dont think that there gonna be many damaged once around. I dont know From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board |
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Falling Numbers!, by ABC on Oct 11, 2007 17:45:12 GMT 1, I know of one RC that went in the bin, thats -1 from the edition. But how on earth would anyone know, it impossible IMO.
I know of one RC that went in the bin, thats -1 from the edition. But how on earth would anyone know, it impossible IMO.
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Falling Numbers!, by ABC on Oct 11, 2007 17:46:14 GMT 1, What you have to remember is they were not hundreds of pounds they were £25
What you have to remember is they were not hundreds of pounds they were £25
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Falling Numbers!, by Daniel Silk on Oct 11, 2007 17:47:23 GMT 1, With the older prints especially, I would bet a lot fell victim to poor framing and/or care. "Why spend hundreds on framing for a print that cost 40?" Anyone who feels like donating any of these unfortunate mishaps can PM me
Yep! ;D We have all seen those early Banksy prints come up on ebay with drawing pin holes in the corners 
With the older prints especially, I would bet a lot fell victim to poor framing and/or care. "Why spend hundreds on framing for a print that cost 40?" Anyone who feels like donating any of these unfortunate mishaps can PM me Yep! ;D We have all seen those early Banksy prints come up on ebay with drawing pin holes in the corners |
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Falling Numbers!, by moonstomp on Oct 11, 2007 17:50:02 GMT 1, i dont think that people which pays hunderts of euros for a print dont gonna take care of it .also the shipping in the normal poster tubes are quiet safe .so i dont think that there gonna be many damaged once around. I dont know From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board
I've got a horrible feeling my signed Napalm may well be "stuck" I'm too scared to take the backing paper off the back of the frame to find out. Framer said they can't remember and if I didn't specifiically ask for it to be dry mounted it may well be mounted on board.
i dont think that people which pays hunderts of euros for a print dont gonna take care of it .also the shipping in the normal poster tubes are quiet safe .so i dont think that there gonna be many damaged once around. I dont know From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board I've got a horrible feeling my signed Napalm may well be "stuck" I'm too scared to take the backing paper off the back of the frame to find out. Framer said they can't remember and if I didn't specifiically ask for it to be dry mounted it may well be mounted on board. |
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Falling Numbers!, by reados on Oct 11, 2007 17:53:03 GMT 1, I dont know From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board I've got a horrible feeling my signed Napalm may well be "stuck" I'm too scared to take the backing paper off the back of the frame to find out. Framer said they can't remember and if I didn't specifiically ask for it to be dry mounted it may well be mounted on board.
if you reheat dry mounting does it come off?, i remember using the drymounting machine a college in Photography
I dont know From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board I've got a horrible feeling my signed Napalm may well be "stuck" I'm too scared to take the backing paper off the back of the frame to find out. Framer said they can't remember and if I didn't specifiically ask for it to be dry mounted it may well be mounted on board. if you reheat dry mounting does it come off?, i remember using the drymounting machine a college in Photography |
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Falling Numbers!, by dave313perry on Oct 11, 2007 17:54:37 GMT 1, I dont know From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board I've got a horrible feeling my signed Napalm may well be "stuck" I'm too scared to take the backing paper off the back of the frame to find out. Framer said they can't remember and if I didn't specifiically ask for it to be dry mounted it may well be mounted on board.
Gulp
I dont know From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board I've got a horrible feeling my signed Napalm may well be "stuck" I'm too scared to take the backing paper off the back of the frame to find out. Framer said they can't remember and if I didn't specifiically ask for it to be dry mounted it may well be mounted on board. Gulp |
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Falling Numbers!, by moonstomp on Oct 11, 2007 17:56:33 GMT 1, I've got a horrible feeling my signed Napalm may well be "stuck" I'm too scared to take the backing paper off the back of the frame to find out. Framer said they can't remember and if I didn't specifiically ask for it to be dry mounted it may well be mounted on board. if you reheat dry mounting does it come off?, i remember using the drymounting machine a college in Photography
I thought dry mounting was the no glue/unstuck method???
I've got a horrible feeling my signed Napalm may well be "stuck" I'm too scared to take the backing paper off the back of the frame to find out. Framer said they can't remember and if I didn't specifiically ask for it to be dry mounted it may well be mounted on board. if you reheat dry mounting does it come off?, i remember using the drymounting machine a college in Photography I thought dry mounting was the no glue/unstuck method??? |
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Falling Numbers!, by artpartment on Oct 11, 2007 17:57:31 GMT 1, i think that an old print with some pin holes in the corner have stil more flair than the perfect new prints.it tell of a timewhere people bought the print because the like it really and didnt look about prices
i think that an old print with some pin holes in the corner have stil more flair than the perfect new prints.it tell of a timewhere people bought the print because the like it really and didnt look about prices
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Falling Numbers!, by Ripper1331 on Oct 11, 2007 17:58:34 GMT 1, I think a lot of earlier prints most likely have pin holes or tape marks or were put in the bin when moving. I had several Obey prints on the office wall in 2000 that were held up by tape and tossed when we moved buildings that I see on the bay occasionally going for over $700. At the time they were $20 so who cared really.
Fortunately my banksy I bought was $500 from POW so it went right into a frame.
I think a lot of earlier prints most likely have pin holes or tape marks or were put in the bin when moving. I had several Obey prints on the office wall in 2000 that were held up by tape and tossed when we moved buildings that I see on the bay occasionally going for over $700. At the time they were $20 so who cared really.
Fortunately my banksy I bought was $500 from POW so it went right into a frame.
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Falling Numbers!, by Run Pig Run on Oct 11, 2007 18:03:06 GMT 1, my bombhugger had blutac on the back
my bombhugger had blutac on the back
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Falling Numbers!, by corblimeylimey on Oct 11, 2007 18:06:13 GMT 1, if you reheat dry mounting does it come off?, i remember using the drymounting machine a college in Photography I thought dry mounting was the no glue/unstuck method???
An old post of mine from back in February.....
There seems to be a lot of confusion about this with people thinking dry mounting is the best thing to do, it isn't.
Read the advice here
trueart.info/dry_mounting.htm
www.picturethisframed.com/dry_mounting.html
if you reheat dry mounting does it come off?, i remember using the drymounting machine a college in Photography I thought dry mounting was the no glue/unstuck method??? An old post of mine from back in February..... There seems to be a lot of confusion about this with people thinking dry mounting is the best thing to do, it isn't. Read the advice here trueart.info/dry_mounting.htmwww.picturethisframed.com/dry_mounting.html |
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Falling Numbers!, by reados on Oct 11, 2007 18:07:13 GMT 1, if you reheat dry mounting does it come off?, i remember using the drymounting machine a college in Photography I thought dry mounting was the no glue/unstuck method???
Oh, i thought dry mounting was when you stick things usually photgraphs to board or canvas with a special adhesive tissue paper that you insert between the picture and the board and heat up with a press like electric Iron then it sticks flat, or in the case of canvas the picture takes the texture of the canvas, or am i completetly confusing the matter here?
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cbl posted his links while i was typing this
if you reheat dry mounting does it come off?, i remember using the drymounting machine a college in Photography I thought dry mounting was the no glue/unstuck method??? Oh, i thought dry mounting was when you stick things usually photgraphs to board or canvas with a special adhesive tissue paper that you insert between the picture and the board and heat up with a press like electric Iron then it sticks flat, or in the case of canvas the picture takes the texture of the canvas, or am i completetly confusing the matter here? EDIT cbl posted his links while i was typing this |
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Falling Numbers!, by cashman on Oct 11, 2007 18:11:30 GMT 1, my bombhugger had blutac on the back
I actually used bluetak to hold my 1st Banksy print in the frame
my bombhugger had blutac on the back I actually used bluetak to hold my 1st Banksy print in the frame |
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Falling Numbers!, by corblimeylimey on Oct 11, 2007 18:11:52 GMT 1, I thought dry mounting was the no glue/unstuck method??? Oh, i thought dry mounting was when you stick things usually photgraphs to board or canvas with a special adhesive tissue paper that you insert between the picture and the board and heat up with a press like electric Iron then it sticks flat, or in the case of canvas the picture takes the texture of the canvas, or am i completetly confusing the matter here? EDIT cbl posted his links while i was typing this
From one of my links above
"Dry mounting is a permanent mounting process where the art is glued to a mounting board, using heat and pressure. The mounting board is usually a foam core board, but other boards can be used depending on the circumstances of how the art will be used. A tissue type adhesive is placed between the art and the mounting board. This combination is then inserted into a vacuum press and heated up to activate the adhesive while the press applies pressure.
If a piece of art is to be conservation framed then dry mounting cannot be used, since it would adversely affect the value of the art. Dry mounting is used when the aesthetic appearance of the art warrants it to be flat.
An inexpensive replaceable movie poster, art poster or music poster would be good examples of items that would be dry mounted."
I thought dry mounting was the no glue/unstuck method??? Oh, i thought dry mounting was when you stick things usually photgraphs to board or canvas with a special adhesive tissue paper that you insert between the picture and the board and heat up with a press like electric Iron then it sticks flat, or in the case of canvas the picture takes the texture of the canvas, or am i completetly confusing the matter here? EDIT cbl posted his links while i was typing this From one of my links above "Dry mounting is a permanent mounting process where the art is glued to a mounting board, using heat and pressure. The mounting board is usually a foam core board, but other boards can be used depending on the circumstances of how the art will be used. A tissue type adhesive is placed between the art and the mounting board. This combination is then inserted into a vacuum press and heated up to activate the adhesive while the press applies pressure. If a piece of art is to be conservation framed then dry mounting cannot be used, since it would adversely affect the value of the art. Dry mounting is used when the aesthetic appearance of the art warrants it to be flat. An inexpensive replaceable movie poster, art poster or music poster would be good examples of items that would be dry mounted." |
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Falling Numbers!, by reados on Oct 11, 2007 18:12:13 GMT 1, once its stuck its stuck then!
once its stuck its stuck then!
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Falling Numbers!, by teatwosugars on Oct 11, 2007 18:12:36 GMT 1, Agreed- I'm sure there's been quite a few with pin holes, tape marks, and of course the dreaded blu-tak (which if doesn't stain always has the potential to rip the corner off)!
I remember my sister saying that when she was at Uni she'd seen a few of the earlier prints stuck on people's walls. I just look back at carting my stuff backwards and forwards across the country when I was a student. Always a nightmare cramming stuff into the car or dumping it in someone's attic! 
I imagine there's a few people out there who tell the story of when they "once owned a Banksy!"
Agreed- I'm sure there's been quite a few with pin holes, tape marks, and of course the dreaded blu-tak (which if doesn't stain always has the potential to rip the corner off)! I remember my sister saying that when she was at Uni she'd seen a few of the earlier prints stuck on people's walls. I just look back at carting my stuff backwards and forwards across the country when I was a student. Always a nightmare cramming stuff into the car or dumping it in someone's attic! I imagine there's a few people out there who tell the story of when they "once owned a Banksy!" |
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Falling Numbers!, by 8anksy on Oct 11, 2007 18:24:52 GMT 1, so - am i right in thinking i should blue tack my micallef collection to my walls?
so - am i right in thinking i should blue tack my micallef collection to my walls?
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Falling Numbers!, by corblimeylimey on Oct 11, 2007 18:33:42 GMT 1, so - am i right in thinking i should blue tack my micallef collection to my walls?
Why not try nailing them to the walls?
so - am i right in thinking i should blue tack my micallef collection to my walls? Why not try nailing them to the walls? |
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Falling Numbers!, by thwaites on Oct 11, 2007 18:35:04 GMT 1, nails could look pretty cool
nails could look pretty cool
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Falling Numbers!, by m@san on Oct 11, 2007 18:55:36 GMT 1, I have a Banksy Flying Copper that my flatmate knocked off of the wall  ... It's got a small hole in the centre and a scrape mark across the image where the glass dug into it ... makes it look more street !!!
I have a Banksy Flying Copper that my flatmate knocked off of the wall ... It's got a small hole in the centre and a scrape mark across the image where the glass dug into it ... makes it look more street !!! |
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Falling Numbers!, by sausageboonwee on Oct 11, 2007 19:18:28 GMT 1, When I bought my Damien Hirst Opium I stuck it in a Habitat frame with masking tape.
When I bought my Damien Hirst Opium I stuck it in a Habitat frame with masking tape.
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Falling Numbers!, by moonstomp on Oct 11, 2007 19:32:21 GMT 1, Oh, i thought dry mounting was when you stick things usually photgraphs to board or canvas with a special adhesive tissue paper that you insert between the picture and the board and heat up with a press like electric Iron then it sticks flat, or in the case of canvas the picture takes the texture of the canvas, or am i completetly confusing the matter here? EDIT cbl posted his links while i was typing this From one of my links above "Dry mounting is a permanent mounting process where the art is glued to a mounting board, using heat and pressure. The mounting board is usually a foam core board, but other boards can be used depending on the circumstances of how the art will be used. A tissue type adhesive is placed between the art and the mounting board. This combination is then inserted into a vacuum press and heated up to activate the adhesive while the press applies pressure. If a piece of art is to be conservation framed then dry mounting cannot be used, since it would adversely affect the value of the art. Dry mounting is used when the aesthetic appearance of the art warrants it to be flat. An inexpensive replaceable movie poster, art poster or music poster would be good examples of items that would be dry mounted."
I stand corrected - Here's the print in question:
Anyone fancy making me an offer and taking a punt?
Oh, i thought dry mounting was when you stick things usually photgraphs to board or canvas with a special adhesive tissue paper that you insert between the picture and the board and heat up with a press like electric Iron then it sticks flat, or in the case of canvas the picture takes the texture of the canvas, or am i completetly confusing the matter here? EDIT cbl posted his links while i was typing this From one of my links above "Dry mounting is a permanent mounting process where the art is glued to a mounting board, using heat and pressure. The mounting board is usually a foam core board, but other boards can be used depending on the circumstances of how the art will be used. A tissue type adhesive is placed between the art and the mounting board. This combination is then inserted into a vacuum press and heated up to activate the adhesive while the press applies pressure. If a piece of art is to be conservation framed then dry mounting cannot be used, since it would adversely affect the value of the art. Dry mounting is used when the aesthetic appearance of the art warrants it to be flat. An inexpensive replaceable movie poster, art poster or music poster would be good examples of items that would be dry mounted." I stand corrected - Here's the print in question: Anyone fancy making me an offer and taking a punt? |
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Falling Numbers!, by corblimeylimey on Oct 11, 2007 19:36:59 GMT 1, If I were you moonstomp, I'd take it to a framer and ask them to have a look first.
A member of this forum PM'd me in a right panic over this issue as he thought his signed Banksy was dry mounted (at least that's what it looked like when he started to take it out of the frame) I put him in touch with my framer for advice, but it turned out it wasn't dry mounted.
If I were you moonstomp, I'd take it to a framer and ask them to have a look first.
A member of this forum PM'd me in a right panic over this issue as he thought his signed Banksy was dry mounted (at least that's what it looked like when he started to take it out of the frame) I put him in touch with my framer for advice, but it turned out it wasn't dry mounted.
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Falling Numbers!, by moonstomp on Oct 11, 2007 19:38:17 GMT 1, Thanks for the advice +
Thanks for the advice +
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Falling Numbers!, by trowel on Oct 11, 2007 19:58:31 GMT 1, I'm sure some of the older members remember my signed Love Rat in a clip frame - it's just had its regular check and is still perfect; in better nick than some framed pieces I've seen recently! 
I'm sure some of the older members remember my signed Love Rat in a clip frame - it's just had its regular check and is still perfect; in better nick than some framed pieces I've seen recently! |
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Out of each print run loads must be ruined every year, and the numbers of prints left must get smaller and smaller 
making them rarer and rarer 
From what I hear so many framer will stick ya precious print to the back board 
... It's got a small hole in the centre and a scrape mark across the image where the glass dug into it ... makes it look more street !!!
