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Teach yourself, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2007 15:15:42 GMT 1, Hey Everyone,
I have just started a gap year from Uni and have some time on my hands. I have always been quite artistic and actually got myself into an art college, but ended up going for Architecture instead. Basically, I now want to learn to paint and draw. There are bugger all art classes around me, so can anybody reccommend a good book(s) for a beginner. One that will introduce me to a few techniques.
I am sure there are tons of books out there, but I would like to get a good un!
Thanks in advance.
Hey Everyone,
I have just started a gap year from Uni and have some time on my hands. I have always been quite artistic and actually got myself into an art college, but ended up going for Architecture instead. Basically, I now want to learn to paint and draw. There are bugger all art classes around me, so can anybody reccommend a good book(s) for a beginner. One that will introduce me to a few techniques.
I am sure there are tons of books out there, but I would like to get a good un!
Thanks in advance.
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Teach yourself, by ABC on Sept 15, 2007 15:23:46 GMT 1, What sort of thing are you looking at? Pencils, water colour, acylics, oils? to be honest the best way to learn is buy some materials and experiment. If you pm me I can give you a link of a very good and cheap art supplier, they have canvases at rock bottom prices, I also have a cheap supplier of Acylics, as for Oils they are exspensive where ever you go.
What sort of thing are you looking at? Pencils, water colour, acylics, oils? to be honest the best way to learn is buy some materials and experiment. If you pm me I can give you a link of a very good and cheap art supplier, they have canvases at rock bottom prices, I also have a cheap supplier of Acylics, as for Oils they are exspensive where ever you go.
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Teach yourself, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2007 15:30:31 GMT 1, I think you are right. I suppose there are endless possibilites when it comes to art. All I know is that I have tons of mad ideas that I would like to see if I could somehow express. For some reason, oil and acrylic appeal to me.
I'll give you PM. Thanks 
I think you are right. I suppose there are endless possibilites when it comes to art. All I know is that I have tons of mad ideas that I would like to see if I could somehow express. For some reason, oil and acrylic appeal to me. I'll give you PM. Thanks |
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Teach yourself, by Daniel Silk on Sept 15, 2007 15:34:12 GMT 1, I think its just all about learning how to use different materials, and as ABC says the best way is to experiment ;D If you learn known artist techniques too much you could stunt the growth of your own personal style  and slip into producing pieces identical to other artists.
I think its just all about learning how to use different materials, and as ABC says the best way is to experiment ;D If you learn known artist techniques too much you could stunt the growth of your own personal style and slip into producing pieces identical to other artists. |
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Teach yourself, by Daniel Silk on Sept 15, 2007 15:35:53 GMT 1, Don't a lot of musicians never listen to the radio coz it can effect their own work? ;D
Don't a lot of musicians never listen to the radio coz it can effect their own work? ;D
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Teach yourself, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2007 15:40:03 GMT 1, I think its just all about learning how to use different materials, and as ABC says the best way is to experiment ;D If you learn known artist techniques too much you could stunt the growth of your own personal style and slip into producing pieces identical to other artists.
I hear you. I have alot of mad concepts that I have jotted down in pencil. I have a very rough idea of how they should look, but obviously as I start experimenting with different materials, I will start to develop a style. So I just need to get some materials and get on with it and see what happens. It's all about expression for me, but I would like to learn some basic formal stuff aswell
I think its just all about learning how to use different materials, and as ABC says the best way is to experiment ;D If you learn known artist techniques too much you could stunt the growth of your own personal style and slip into producing pieces identical to other artists. I hear you. I have alot of mad concepts that I have jotted down in pencil. I have a very rough idea of how they should look, but obviously as I start experimenting with different materials, I will start to develop a style. So I just need to get some materials and get on with it and see what happens. It's all about expression for me, but I would like to learn some basic formal stuff aswell |
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Teach yourself, by Daniel Silk on Sept 15, 2007 15:47:04 GMT 1, I think its just all about learning how to use different materials, and as ABC says the best way is to experiment ;D If you learn known artist techniques too much you could stunt the growth of your own personal style and slip into producing pieces identical to other artists. I hear you. I have alot of mad concepts that I have jotted down in pencil. I have a very rough idea of how they should look, but obviously as I start experimenting with different materials, I will start to develop a style. So I just need to get some materials and get on with it and see what happens. It's all about expression for me, but I would like to learn some basic formal stuff aswell
I studied Architecture as well ;D And the problem I find going from that into Art is that with Architecture you need to be so controlled and precise, and its hard to get out of that and be more relaxed and free with your painting ;D
I think its just all about learning how to use different materials, and as ABC says the best way is to experiment ;D If you learn known artist techniques too much you could stunt the growth of your own personal style and slip into producing pieces identical to other artists. I hear you. I have alot of mad concepts that I have jotted down in pencil. I have a very rough idea of how they should look, but obviously as I start experimenting with different materials, I will start to develop a style. So I just need to get some materials and get on with it and see what happens. It's all about expression for me, but I would like to learn some basic formal stuff aswell I studied Architecture as well ;D And the problem I find going from that into Art is that with Architecture you need to be so controlled and precise, and its hard to get out of that and be more relaxed and free with your painting ;D |
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Teach yourself, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2007 15:56:34 GMT 1, I studied Architecture as well ;D And the problem I find going from that into Art is that with Architecture you need to be so controlled and precise, and its hard to get out of that and be more relaxed and free with your painting ;D
Cool. That's my problem with Architecture. I love it for it's creativness, history, problem solving etc. but when it comes down to buildings regs and planning, it can get so boring. I suppose that comes with every creative job.
With regards to art, I think I will find it easy to let loose and be creative in a more direct way. I will be doing it purely as a hobby and intend to persue architecture as a career. Although, you never know what may happen. I bet being a successful artist is one of the most enjoyable jobs you can do.
I studied Architecture as well ;D And the problem I find going from that into Art is that with Architecture you need to be so controlled and precise, and its hard to get out of that and be more relaxed and free with your painting ;D Cool. That's my problem with Architecture. I love it for it's creativness, history, problem solving etc. but when it comes down to buildings regs and planning, it can get so boring. I suppose that comes with every creative job. With regards to art, I think I will find it easy to let loose and be creative in a more direct way. I will be doing it purely as a hobby and intend to persue architecture as a career. Although, you never know what may happen. I bet being a successful artist is one of the most enjoyable jobs you can do. |
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Teach yourself, by RetroCanvas on Sept 15, 2007 16:09:22 GMT 1, I'd really recomend just experimenting with paint.
Knowing how it mixes together, how it flows from a brush, how to get effects with other tools, what it's like when it dries, etc etc.
You'll soon end up knowing what you need to improve on. With me, mixing colours is always hard. I just research what I need to know to do a particular peice. Although the stuff I sell seems quite easy, it's not, and I've other paintings in other styles.
With drawing, i'd say the same, gets some soft and hard pencils, chalk and charcoal and let loose just to learn how to use the things. It takes a while but worth it.
I hope my thoughts help.
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I studied Architecture as well ;D And the problem I find going from that into Art is that with Architecture you need to be so controlled and precise, and its hard to get out of that and be more relaxed and free with your painting ;D Cool. That's my problem with Architecture. I love it for it's creativness, history, problem solving etc. but when it comes down to buildings regs and planning, it can get so boring. I suppose that comes with every creative job. With regards to art, I think I will find it easy to let loose and be creative in a more direct way. I will be doing it purely as a hobby and intend to persue architecture as a career. Although, you never know what may happen. I bet being a successful artist is one of the most enjoyable jobs you can do.
I'd really recomend just experimenting with paint. Knowing how it mixes together, how it flows from a brush, how to get effects with other tools, what it's like when it dries, etc etc. You'll soon end up knowing what you need to improve on. With me, mixing colours is always hard. I just research what I need to know to do a particular peice. Although the stuff I sell seems quite easy, it's not, and I've other paintings in other styles. With drawing, i'd say the same, gets some soft and hard pencils, chalk and charcoal and let loose just to learn how to use the things. It takes a while but worth it. I hope my thoughts help. Retro I studied Architecture as well ;D And the problem I find going from that into Art is that with Architecture you need to be so controlled and precise, and its hard to get out of that and be more relaxed and free with your painting ;D Cool. That's my problem with Architecture. I love it for it's creativness, history, problem solving etc. but when it comes down to buildings regs and planning, it can get so boring. I suppose that comes with every creative job. With regards to art, I think I will find it easy to let loose and be creative in a more direct way. I will be doing it purely as a hobby and intend to persue architecture as a career. Although, you never know what may happen. I bet being a successful artist is one of the most enjoyable jobs you can do. |
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Teach yourself, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2007 17:06:19 GMT 1, Thanks Retro! Alot of my idea's revolve around expressions on peoples faces, so I am going to get some pencils and just start sketching faces. I suppose that's as good a place as anywhere to begin before I buy some paint.
Thanks Retro! Alot of my idea's revolve around expressions on peoples faces, so I am going to get some pencils and just start sketching faces. I suppose that's as good a place as anywhere to begin before I buy some paint. |
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Teach yourself, by ABC on Sept 15, 2007 17:09:35 GMT 1, I've sent the link via PM, whatever you do, enjoy it. I woud say though that if you choose oils then they can be quite expensive, IMO its not worth buying the cheap stuff either, stick to Daler Rowney or Windsor and Newton then you cant go wrong, you could check their sites for tips
www.daler-rowney.com/
www.winsornewton.com/
I've sent the link via PM, whatever you do, enjoy it. I woud say though that if you choose oils then they can be quite expensive, IMO its not worth buying the cheap stuff either, stick to Daler Rowney or Windsor and Newton then you cant go wrong, you could check their sites for tips www.daler-rowney.com/ www.winsornewton.com/ |
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Teach yourself, by RetroCanvas on Sept 15, 2007 17:14:38 GMT 1, Good stuff, keep us posted.
One tip, for contrast, don't be scared to press hard to get nice dark marks. A lot of pencil sketches end up quite light because people are scared to put some elbow into it. 
Thanks Retro! Alot of my idea's revolve around expressions on peoples faces, so I am going to get some pencils and just start sketching faces. I suppose that's as good a place as anywhere to begin before I buy some paint.
Good stuff, keep us posted. One tip, for contrast, don't be scared to press hard to get nice dark marks. A lot of pencil sketches end up quite light because people are scared to put some elbow into it. Thanks Retro! Alot of my idea's revolve around expressions on peoples faces, so I am going to get some pencils and just start sketching faces. I suppose that's as good a place as anywhere to begin before I buy some paint. |
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Teach yourself, by ratsneedlovetwo on Sept 15, 2007 18:36:58 GMT 1, Feel the force and it will guide you.
sorry to sound so daft but its really true. Follow your instincts and youll be fine. Get your fingers and brushes mucky and keep practising and practising and youll achieve your goal.
Studying art is great just dont copy it.
good luck!!
Feel the force and it will guide you.
sorry to sound so daft but its really true. Follow your instincts and youll be fine. Get your fingers and brushes mucky and keep practising and practising and youll achieve your goal.
Studying art is great just dont copy it.
good luck!!
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Teach yourself, by ABC on Sept 15, 2007 18:51:31 GMT 1, Feel the force and it will guide you. sorry to sound so daft but its really true. Follow your instincts and youll be fine. Get your fingers and brushes mucky and keep practising and practising and youll achieve your goal. Studying art is great just dont copy it. good luck!!
Very true, but when you have finished getting your brushes mucky, clean them!! Ive spent tons of money on ruined brushes when I couldnt be bothered to clean them.
Feel the force and it will guide you. sorry to sound so daft but its really true. Follow your instincts and youll be fine. Get your fingers and brushes mucky and keep practising and practising and youll achieve your goal. Studying art is great just dont copy it. good luck!! Very true, but when you have finished getting your brushes mucky, clean them!! Ive spent tons of money on ruined brushes when I couldnt be bothered to clean them. |
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Teach yourself, by cashman on Sept 15, 2007 19:11:48 GMT 1, yes you can teach yourself, but shawly you need to kno the basics. Id say Get yourself a good life drawing book, because once you can properly you can experiment with your own technique.
Im only saying this because im in the same position, having just graduated i feel I need to improve some of the basics
yes you can teach yourself, but shawly you need to kno the basics. Id say Get yourself a good life drawing book, because once you can properly you can experiment with your own technique.
Im only saying this because im in the same position, having just graduated i feel I need to improve some of the basics
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Teach yourself, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2007 19:28:01 GMT 1, Thanks everyone. I have been doing a few face sketch's. Getting to know the basics again like proportion. I struggle a bit with shading. I am just going to practice like hell and I will show you if I draw something interesting.
I think acrylic paint will be alot harder to use than pencil. I am quite natural with pencil, but I can't ever remember using paint.
Main thing is, I am really enjoying it. ;D
Thanks everyone. I have been doing a few face sketch's. Getting to know the basics again like proportion. I struggle a bit with shading. I am just going to practice like hell and I will show you if I draw something interesting.
I think acrylic paint will be alot harder to use than pencil. I am quite natural with pencil, but I can't ever remember using paint.
Main thing is, I am really enjoying it. ;D
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Teach yourself, by ABC on Sept 15, 2007 20:29:05 GMT 1, The one major difference between Acrylic and Oil is drying time, you can re-work an Oil work hours, even days after but working with Acrylics is a different ball game, it dries in minutes so blending is a little more tricky
The one major difference between Acrylic and Oil is drying time, you can re-work an Oil work hours, even days after but working with Acrylics is a different ball game, it dries in minutes so blending is a little more tricky
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Teach yourself, by ratsneedlovetwo on Sept 15, 2007 21:03:40 GMT 1, Feel the force and it will guide you.
sorry to sound so daft but its really true. Follow your instincts and youll be fine. Get your fingers and brushes mucky and keep practising and practising and youll achieve your goal.
Studying art is great just dont copy it.
good luck!!
Feel the force and it will guide you.
sorry to sound so daft but its really true. Follow your instincts and youll be fine. Get your fingers and brushes mucky and keep practising and practising and youll achieve your goal.
Studying art is great just dont copy it.
good luck!!
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Teach yourself, by saltandiron on Sept 17, 2007 10:42:24 GMT 1, Hey Everyone, I have just started a gap year from Uni and have some time on my hands. I have always been quite artistic and actually got myself into an art college, but ended up going for Architecture instead. Basically, I now want to learn to paint and draw. There are bugger all art classes around me, so can anybody reccommend a good book(s) for a beginner. One that will introduce me to a few techniques. I am sure there are tons of books out there, but I would like to get a good un! Thanks in advance.
If you are looking for a book then 'Drawing on the right side of the brain' is quite well respected. I started using it earlier this year and it's good. It's by Betty Edwards.
Hey Everyone, I have just started a gap year from Uni and have some time on my hands. I have always been quite artistic and actually got myself into an art college, but ended up going for Architecture instead. Basically, I now want to learn to paint and draw. There are bugger all art classes around me, so can anybody reccommend a good book(s) for a beginner. One that will introduce me to a few techniques. I am sure there are tons of books out there, but I would like to get a good un! Thanks in advance. If you are looking for a book then 'Drawing on the right side of the brain' is quite well respected. I started using it earlier this year and it's good. It's by Betty Edwards. |
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Teach yourself, by proffesser on Sept 17, 2007 11:27:19 GMT 1, The Artists Handbook. Pip Seymour.ISBN0-572-02866-0.All you need to know about materials and tachniques.... the rest is up to you!!
The Artists Handbook. Pip Seymour.ISBN0-572-02866-0.All you need to know about materials and tachniques.... the rest is up to you!!
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Teach yourself, by spencerlee on Sept 17, 2007 12:57:20 GMT 1, Hey Everyone, I have just started a gap year from Uni and have some time on my hands. I have always been quite artistic and actually got myself into an art college, but ended up going for Architecture instead. Basically, I now want to learn to paint and draw. There are bugger all art classes around me, so can anybody reccommend a good book(s) for a beginner. One that will introduce me to a few techniques. I am sure there are tons of books out there, but I would like to get a good un! Thanks in advance. If you are looking for a book then 'Drawing on the right side of the brain' is quite well respected. I started using it earlier this year and it's good. It's by Betty Edwards.
My girlfriend is a garden designer, and bought that book to help move the 2d scale plans of her gardens into sketches and more 3d visualisations to help clients see what the end product would be like.
Hey Everyone, I have just started a gap year from Uni and have some time on my hands. I have always been quite artistic and actually got myself into an art college, but ended up going for Architecture instead. Basically, I now want to learn to paint and draw. There are bugger all art classes around me, so can anybody reccommend a good book(s) for a beginner. One that will introduce me to a few techniques. I am sure there are tons of books out there, but I would like to get a good un! Thanks in advance. If you are looking for a book then 'Drawing on the right side of the brain' is quite well respected. I started using it earlier this year and it's good. It's by Betty Edwards. My girlfriend is a garden designer, and bought that book to help move the 2d scale plans of her gardens into sketches and more 3d visualisations to help clients see what the end product would be like. |
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Teach yourself, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 23:45:22 GMT 1, If anyone can list some artists in "this thing of ours" that use acrylic paints, that would be helpful.
I am just experimenting with acrylics and need a bit of inspiration. Acrylics are hard 
If anyone can list some artists in "this thing of ours" that use acrylic paints, that would be helpful. I am just experimenting with acrylics and need a bit of inspiration. Acrylics are hard |
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