pezlow
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A plea - please read, by pezlow on Aug 22, 2007 9:38:35 GMT 1, I posted this on another thread but perhaps because I'm grumpy this morning or maybe because I am a megalomaniac who wants to impose my views on others I am going to post it again in the hope that as many as possible read it.
Ok this may turn in to a bit of an essay but I want to get a few things off my chest.
I have a great job. It gives me a hell of a lot of intellectual stimulation and provides plenty of interesting challenges and rewards. But it is not what you might call creative in any way.
For my fix of creativity I look to art. I love art because for me it provokes thought, it makes me smile, sometimes it makes me love, often it moves me, it makes me laugh out loud occasionally, it can make me incredibly sad. In short I love art because it provokes feelings and reactions in me that I do not get in my job. I love art for the same reasons I love literature and films etc.
I do not love art because of money. The value of the art I have in some ways worries me. I worry about insurance. I worry about having a print up in my office which I know is worth the best part of a grand. I worry about acid and moisture and all the things we talk about. It saddens me greatly when you see Moffla's amazing collection on Wall Candy but you know that he doesn't any longer have it displayed in his home because of its value.
Also the value concerns me because it costs so bloody much to buy the art that I like. So that means that most of the time I have to decide not to buy it or to buy something else.
I'm not naive though. I can't afford to be. I've pretty much resolved that any art I buy now has to be funded by selling something else. That concentrates the mind I can tell you
I joined this board to talk to like minded people about the art that I love. And I really enjoy being on this board and would venture to say that I have made some friends
I did not join this board to discuss the stock market, the housing market, the strength of the pound etc etc. It seems to me that there are some people now posting on this board whose only contribution is to discuss these things.
I am not saying the stock market and economy are not important I am just saying that they do not interest me. I don't really want to talk about them constantly. I want to talk about the things that interest me - art, books, films, football, cricket.
So a little plea from me. The next time you are tempted to post something about the stock market please go off and post it on one of the forums dedicated to such things. And leave us to discuss the art. Please.
I posted this on another thread but perhaps because I'm grumpy this morning or maybe because I am a megalomaniac who wants to impose my views on others I am going to post it again in the hope that as many as possible read it.
Ok this may turn in to a bit of an essay but I want to get a few things off my chest.
I have a great job. It gives me a hell of a lot of intellectual stimulation and provides plenty of interesting challenges and rewards. But it is not what you might call creative in any way.
For my fix of creativity I look to art. I love art because for me it provokes thought, it makes me smile, sometimes it makes me love, often it moves me, it makes me laugh out loud occasionally, it can make me incredibly sad. In short I love art because it provokes feelings and reactions in me that I do not get in my job. I love art for the same reasons I love literature and films etc.
I do not love art because of money. The value of the art I have in some ways worries me. I worry about insurance. I worry about having a print up in my office which I know is worth the best part of a grand. I worry about acid and moisture and all the things we talk about. It saddens me greatly when you see Moffla's amazing collection on Wall Candy but you know that he doesn't any longer have it displayed in his home because of its value.
Also the value concerns me because it costs so bloody much to buy the art that I like. So that means that most of the time I have to decide not to buy it or to buy something else.
I'm not naive though. I can't afford to be. I've pretty much resolved that any art I buy now has to be funded by selling something else. That concentrates the mind I can tell you
I joined this board to talk to like minded people about the art that I love. And I really enjoy being on this board and would venture to say that I have made some friends
I did not join this board to discuss the stock market, the housing market, the strength of the pound etc etc. It seems to me that there are some people now posting on this board whose only contribution is to discuss these things.
I am not saying the stock market and economy are not important I am just saying that they do not interest me. I don't really want to talk about them constantly. I want to talk about the things that interest me - art, books, films, football, cricket.
So a little plea from me. The next time you are tempted to post something about the stock market please go off and post it on one of the forums dedicated to such things. And leave us to discuss the art. Please.
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Harveyn
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A plea - please read, by Harveyn on Aug 22, 2007 9:46:14 GMT 1, I'm with you Pez...+
I'm with you Pez...+
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A plea - please read, by a4mnt on Aug 22, 2007 9:52:49 GMT 1, Me too, hence why I generally leave flippant comments about such issues.
But if you are worried about your collection, come and hang some of your finer pieces at my place. I'm only around the corner from you, have a brand new alarm and insurance.
Me too, hence why I generally leave flippant comments about such issues. But if you are worried about your collection, come and hang some of your finer pieces at my place. I'm only around the corner from you, have a brand new alarm and insurance. |
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A plea - please read, by mydeaddogwontwoof on Aug 22, 2007 9:54:50 GMT 1, Great post pezlow, this forum loses its purpose all too frequently, i am sick of reading 'whats this worth?' and 'can you imagine how much it will be worth after the next show!', all very tedious!, but will people take heed of what you are saying?, will they fuck!!!
Great post pezlow, this forum loses its purpose all too frequently, i am sick of reading 'whats this worth?' and 'can you imagine how much it will be worth after the next show!', all very tedious!, but will people take heed of what you are saying?, will they fuck!!!
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tokyojeff
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A plea - please read, by tokyojeff on Aug 22, 2007 9:54:55 GMT 1, Nice one pez.
I think many others are thinking the same thing, but as I'm still kinda new here, never spoke up and am glad you have the bollocks (I'm a yank, did I spell it right?) to post this.
I don't think there's any way of policing the forum to filter the non-art speak but maybe with this post some may count to 10 before they do
Nice one pez. I think many others are thinking the same thing, but as I'm still kinda new here, never spoke up and am glad you have the bollocks (I'm a yank, did I spell it right?) to post this. I don't think there's any way of policing the forum to filter the non-art speak but maybe with this post some may count to 10 before they do |
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Photoxtc
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A plea - please read, by Photoxtc on Aug 22, 2007 9:59:58 GMT 1, actually a refreshing thread... I too get tired of reading about the cost and profit or loss thereof and all the other BS about world economics...
actually a refreshing thread... I too get tired of reading about the cost and profit or loss thereof and all the other BS about world economics...
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themightyreds
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A plea - please read, by themightyreds on Aug 22, 2007 10:08:35 GMT 1, Good words pezlow.
I'm with you on all that except for the cricket!!
First print i ever got was because i was blown away by it and just had to have it.
Now my walls are nearly full and i've got plenty in storage i find that my buying is a whole lot more selective about what i buy as it's got to be something that goes in a frame and means relegating an already loved print to storage.
A hell of a luxury if you think about it....
Good words pezlow.
I'm with you on all that except for the cricket!!
First print i ever got was because i was blown away by it and just had to have it.
Now my walls are nearly full and i've got plenty in storage i find that my buying is a whole lot more selective about what i buy as it's got to be something that goes in a frame and means relegating an already loved print to storage.
A hell of a luxury if you think about it....
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pezlow
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A plea - please read, by pezlow on Aug 22, 2007 10:10:23 GMT 1, Yeah fair enough I shouldn't have mentioned the cricket I promise not to talk about cricket as long as everyone else promises not to talk about the economy 
Yeah fair enough I shouldn't have mentioned the cricket I promise not to talk about cricket as long as everyone else promises not to talk about the economy |
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A plea - please read, by insite on Aug 22, 2007 10:11:28 GMT 1, I was right there with you mate, then you got to football and cricket 
I was right there with you mate, then you got to football and cricket |
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A plea - please read, by mammal2 on Aug 22, 2007 10:15:12 GMT 1, Pez you are simply a legend. plus one. someone needed to say it and im glad its come from a gent such as yourself. My misses said last night that your kids are lucky to have such a great father.....EINE FOR BREAKFAST! LEGEND!
Pez you are simply a legend. plus one. someone needed to say it and im glad its come from a gent such as yourself. My misses said last night that your kids are lucky to have such a great father.....EINE FOR BREAKFAST! LEGEND!
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reados
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A plea - please read, by reados on Aug 22, 2007 10:16:23 GMT 1, fair comment.
yeah that price crash thread was boring me too ;D
fair comment.
yeah that price crash thread was boring me too ;D
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pezlow
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A plea - please read, by pezlow on Aug 22, 2007 10:19:49 GMT 1, Lol - cheers Mammal (and Mrs Mammal). hope you didn't drink too many of those test tube thingys last night. I reckon after 3 or 4 they might even start to be palatable.
Lol - cheers Mammal (and Mrs Mammal). hope you didn't drink too many of those test tube thingys last night. I reckon after 3 or 4 they might even start to be palatable.
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A plea - please read, by mammal2 on Aug 22, 2007 10:23:15 GMT 1, I GOT BATTERED. But hey, its all free and i managed not to blow a few thousand on Eine. I wanted to, I tell you. But my money needs to sort out my lodgings at the momment.
I GOT BATTERED. But hey, its all free and i managed not to blow a few thousand on Eine. I wanted to, I tell you. But my money needs to sort out my lodgings at the momment.
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pezlow
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A plea - please read, by pezlow on Aug 22, 2007 10:25:28 GMT 1, I reckon a lot of people were showing good restraint last night. After the alcohol kicks in it becomes so tempting....
I reckon a lot of people were showing good restraint last night. After the alcohol kicks in it becomes so tempting....
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A plea - please read, by a4mnt on Aug 22, 2007 10:29:27 GMT 1, Come on. Who's negging Pez? I took him up to the magical 69 and someone has knocked him back down.
Come on. Who's negging Pez? I took him up to the magical 69 and someone has knocked him back down. |
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pezlow
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A plea - please read, by pezlow on Aug 22, 2007 10:30:45 GMT 1, That's ok cracka. I kinda expected it. Seems to happen to anyone who expresses an opinion on here.
That's ok cracka. I kinda expected it. Seems to happen to anyone who expresses an opinion on here.
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michaelscott
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A plea - please read, by michaelscott on Aug 22, 2007 10:32:20 GMT 1, Lol - cheers Mammal (and Mrs Mammal). hope you didn't drink too many of those test tube thingys last night. I reckon after 3 or 4 they might even start to be palatable.
is this what you are referring to as "test tube thingys" ?
www.mangobottling.com/home.html
I sell those at my store...I call them "cancer".
p.s. had me too Pez...until that cricket stuff.
Lol - cheers Mammal (and Mrs Mammal). hope you didn't drink too many of those test tube thingys last night. I reckon after 3 or 4 they might even start to be palatable. is this what you are referring to as "test tube thingys" ? www.mangobottling.com/home.htmlI sell those at my store...I call them "cancer". p.s. had me too Pez...until that cricket stuff. |
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A plea - please read, by baldwin on Aug 22, 2007 10:33:14 GMT 1, Without people having a love for art in the first place, there would be no damn market. It doesn't look like there are many people who's art is going to end up on the walls. So what is this becoming? A loads of idiots trading very expensive pieces of paper with no one at the end willing to pay those prices. It needs balance. Some people may as well be hyping up the price of cream crackers. If there is no discussion about the love of art, then how is there such a big market for it? I can't wait for it to go tits up so I can get some prints I really like.
When I get a chance, I'm going to start a thread inviting people to discuss in depth what they really like about their favorite images. Reall arty farty farty bollocks ;D. I know it's not a very street thing to do, but it's so much more interesting than money talk.
Without people having a love for art in the first place, there would be no damn market. It doesn't look like there are many people who's art is going to end up on the walls. So what is this becoming? A loads of idiots trading very expensive pieces of paper with no one at the end willing to pay those prices. It needs balance. Some people may as well be hyping up the price of cream crackers. If there is no discussion about the love of art, then how is there such a big market for it? I can't wait for it to go tits up so I can get some prints I really like.
When I get a chance, I'm going to start a thread inviting people to discuss in depth what they really like about their favorite images. Reall arty farty farty bollocks ;D. I know it's not a very street thing to do, but it's so much more interesting than money talk.
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pezlow
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A plea - please read, by pezlow on Aug 22, 2007 10:37:11 GMT 1, Not sure - can't access that site from work. But they are called something like jaigermeister.
Not sure - can't access that site from work. But they are called something like jaigermeister.
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A plea - please read, by corblimeylimey on Aug 22, 2007 10:38:09 GMT 1, Well said Pez, who gives a s**t about the stock market apart from those involved in it, and those involved in it please keep it there.
The Who Cares About The Price Crash thread was started with your sentiment in mind Pezlow, and all through the thread I was banging on about not careing about anything but the art on the wall.
P.S. keep the football & cricket out of here and on the special section too
Well said Pez, who gives a s**t about the stock market apart from those involved in it, and those involved in it please keep it there. The Who Cares About The Price Crash thread was started with your sentiment in mind Pezlow, and all through the thread I was banging on about not careing about anything but the art on the wall. P.S. keep the football & cricket out of here and on the special section too |
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A plea - please read, by motor on Aug 22, 2007 11:03:51 GMT 1, BIG + Pez ;D
BIG + Pez ;D
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misteraitch
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A plea - please read, by misteraitch on Aug 22, 2007 11:14:12 GMT 1, Not sure - can't access that site from work. But they are called something like jaigermeister.
What a refreshing change! Massive respect Pez
And as for the Jaigermeister - it's quality stuff (although a little too much like cough syrup) but you should try Jeiger Bombers - a shot dropped into a small glass of red bull (or other energy drink) and downed in one
Just don't go out to buy art after drinking a few ;D
Not sure - can't access that site from work. But they are called something like jaigermeister. What a refreshing change! Massive respect Pez And as for the Jaigermeister - it's quality stuff (although a little too much like cough syrup) but you should try Jeiger Bombers - a shot dropped into a small glass of red bull (or other energy drink) and downed in one Just don't go out to buy art after drinking a few ;D |
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A plea - please read, by jonpud on Aug 22, 2007 11:20:48 GMT 1, Nice one Pez, couldn't have put it better myself! +1
Nice one Pez, couldn't have put it better myself! +1 |
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A plea - please read, by numusic on Aug 22, 2007 11:26:41 GMT 1, I love you like a brother for that post Pezlow ! may good art rain down from the heavens for you and yours
peace
a friend
I love you like a brother for that post Pezlow ! may good art rain down from the heavens for you and yours peace a friend |
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A plea - please read, by baldwin on Aug 22, 2007 11:29:55 GMT 1, And as for the Jaigermeister - it's quality stuff (although a little too much like cough syrup) but you should try Jeiger Bombers - a shot dropped into a small glass of red bull (or other energy drink) and downed in one
Jeiger Bombers are my absolute favorie drink ever. Tastes like sweet Dr Pepper. I could go for one right now actually! ;D
And as for the Jaigermeister - it's quality stuff (although a little too much like cough syrup) but you should try Jeiger Bombers - a shot dropped into a small glass of red bull (or other energy drink) and downed in one Jeiger Bombers are my absolute favorie drink ever. Tastes like sweet Dr Pepper. I could go for one right now actually! ;D |
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A plea - please read, by paulah on Aug 22, 2007 11:30:21 GMT 1, I love you like a brother for that post Pezlow ! may good art rain down from the heavens for you and yours peace a friend
yeah - that from me too
I love you like a brother for that post Pezlow ! may good art rain down from the heavens for you and yours peace a friend yeah - that from me too |
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pezlow
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A plea - please read, by pezlow on Aug 22, 2007 11:32:11 GMT 1, aww thanks guys
aww thanks guys
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A plea - please read, by jonpud on Aug 22, 2007 11:35:16 GMT 1, Steady on! Gonna be crying in my office soon, what the hell will everyonr think!!
Steady on! Gonna be crying in my office soon, what the hell will everyonr think!!
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Curley
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A plea - please read, by Curley on Aug 22, 2007 11:43:27 GMT 1, I posted this on another thread but perhaps because I'm grumpy this morning or maybe because I am a megalomaniac who wants to impose my views on others I am going to post it again in the hope that as many as possible read it. Ok this may turn in to a bit of an essay but I want to get a few things off my chest. I have a great job. It gives me a hell of a lot of intellectual stimulation and provides plenty of interesting challenges and rewards. But it is not what you might call creative in any way. For my fix of creativity I look to art. I love art because for me it provokes thought, it makes me smile, sometimes it makes me love, often it moves me, it makes me laugh out loud occasionally, it can make me incredibly sad. In short I love art because it provokes feelings and reactions in me that I do not get in my job. I love art for the same reasons I love literature and films etc. I do not love art because of money. The value of the art I have in some ways worries me. I worry about insurance. I worry about having a print up in my office which I know is worth the best part of a grand. I worry about acid and moisture and all the things we talk about. It saddens me greatly when you see Moffla's amazing collection on Wall Candy but you know that he doesn't any longer have it displayed in his home because of its value. Also the value concerns me because it costs so bloody much to buy the art that I like. So that means that most of the time I have to decide not to buy it or to buy something else. I'm not naive though. I can't afford to be. I've pretty much resolved that any art I buy now has to be funded by selling something else. That concentrates the mind I can tell you I joined this board to talk to like minded people about the art that I love. And I really enjoy being on this board and would venture to say that I have made some friends I did not join this board to discuss the stock market, the housing market, the strength of the pound etc etc. It seems to me that there are some people now posting on this board whose only contribution is to discuss these things. I am not saying the stock market and economy are not important I am just saying that they do not interest me. I don't really want to talk about them constantly. I want to talk about the things that interest me - art, books, films, football, cricket. So a little plea from me. The next time you are tempted to post something about the stock market please go off and post it on one of the forums dedicated to such things. And leave us to discuss the art. Please.
Spot on Perry....well said ;D
I posted this on another thread but perhaps because I'm grumpy this morning or maybe because I am a megalomaniac who wants to impose my views on others I am going to post it again in the hope that as many as possible read it. Ok this may turn in to a bit of an essay but I want to get a few things off my chest. I have a great job. It gives me a hell of a lot of intellectual stimulation and provides plenty of interesting challenges and rewards. But it is not what you might call creative in any way. For my fix of creativity I look to art. I love art because for me it provokes thought, it makes me smile, sometimes it makes me love, often it moves me, it makes me laugh out loud occasionally, it can make me incredibly sad. In short I love art because it provokes feelings and reactions in me that I do not get in my job. I love art for the same reasons I love literature and films etc. I do not love art because of money. The value of the art I have in some ways worries me. I worry about insurance. I worry about having a print up in my office which I know is worth the best part of a grand. I worry about acid and moisture and all the things we talk about. It saddens me greatly when you see Moffla's amazing collection on Wall Candy but you know that he doesn't any longer have it displayed in his home because of its value. Also the value concerns me because it costs so bloody much to buy the art that I like. So that means that most of the time I have to decide not to buy it or to buy something else. I'm not naive though. I can't afford to be. I've pretty much resolved that any art I buy now has to be funded by selling something else. That concentrates the mind I can tell you I joined this board to talk to like minded people about the art that I love. And I really enjoy being on this board and would venture to say that I have made some friends I did not join this board to discuss the stock market, the housing market, the strength of the pound etc etc. It seems to me that there are some people now posting on this board whose only contribution is to discuss these things. I am not saying the stock market and economy are not important I am just saying that they do not interest me. I don't really want to talk about them constantly. I want to talk about the things that interest me - art, books, films, football, cricket. So a little plea from me. The next time you are tempted to post something about the stock market please go off and post it on one of the forums dedicated to such things. And leave us to discuss the art. Please. Spot on Perry....well said ;D |
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A plea - please read, by stuey09 on Aug 22, 2007 12:22:36 GMT 1, On the nail Pez', well put
On the nail Pez', well put
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