fedjarojnik
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by fedjarojnik on Aug 23, 2007 16:56:11 GMT 1, Greetings to all, i am new to this forum and was wondering how other forum members handle purchases with members overseas.
Any good or bad experiences, people you would buy from or wouldnt, or tips for piece of mind.
I understand forum members build up a certain level of trust over time, but would be interested in hearing your suggestion on how to proceed....
thanks to all in advance, fedja
Greetings to all, i am new to this forum and was wondering how other forum members handle purchases with members overseas.
Any good or bad experiences, people you would buy from or wouldnt, or tips for piece of mind.
I understand forum members build up a certain level of trust over time, but would be interested in hearing your suggestion on how to proceed....
thanks to all in advance, fedja
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RBK
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by RBK on Aug 23, 2007 17:03:32 GMT 1, Ask for recommendations from other people who have had transactions with them, have a chat over the phone with the actual person, etc.
Ask for recommendations from other people who have had transactions with them, have a chat over the phone with the actual person, etc.
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stuey09
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by stuey09 on Aug 23, 2007 17:06:36 GMT 1, Ask for recommendations from other people who have had transactions with them, have a chat over the phone with the actual person, etc.
Well I can certainly recommend you rk'. Ultra fast delivery and everyhing arrived as it should have. Will post the pictures when I get them out of the framers.
Ask for recommendations from other people who have had transactions with them, have a chat over the phone with the actual person, etc. Well I can certainly recommend you rk'. Ultra fast delivery and everyhing arrived as it should have. Will post the pictures when I get them out of the framers. |
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Harveyn
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by Harveyn on Aug 23, 2007 17:14:52 GMT 1, Overseas or not it comes down to honesty and trust (in both directions).
Organics1 and myself have been having a little google issue were my funds have been withdrawn and google have withheld them from him.
He has kindly shipped the canvas to me today whilst this 4 figure transaction is still in limbo (in a crate a shipped over to him on Monday).
What an absolute star. Why did he do this? Because we have had previous dealings and have both used communication and a helpful approach to develop trust.
Overseas or not it comes down to honesty and trust (in both directions).
Organics1 and myself have been having a little google issue were my funds have been withdrawn and google have withheld them from him.
He has kindly shipped the canvas to me today whilst this 4 figure transaction is still in limbo (in a crate a shipped over to him on Monday).
What an absolute star. Why did he do this? Because we have had previous dealings and have both used communication and a helpful approach to develop trust.
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discoduster
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by discoduster on Aug 23, 2007 17:36:47 GMT 1, I bought an Applause from a forum member for ยฃ600 in the states. No problems whatsoever.
I bought an Applause from a forum member for ยฃ600 in the states. No problems whatsoever.
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Montubu7
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by Montubu7 on Aug 23, 2007 17:37:40 GMT 1, There should be worry it was a copy from staples..............
Yippee-Kai-Yay................... ;D
There should be worry it was a copy from staples..............
Yippee-Kai-Yay................... ;D
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RBK
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by RBK on Aug 23, 2007 17:48:14 GMT 1, Ask for recommendations from other people who have had transactions with them, have a chat over the phone with the actual person, etc. Well I can certainly recommend you rk'. Ultra fast delivery and everyhing arrived as it should have. Will post the pictures when I get them out of the framers.
I want to ask what kind of frames you chose - but don't tell me... it will be better as a surprise! ;D
Ask for recommendations from other people who have had transactions with them, have a chat over the phone with the actual person, etc. Well I can certainly recommend you rk'. Ultra fast delivery and everyhing arrived as it should have. Will post the pictures when I get them out of the framers. I want to ask what kind of frames you chose - but don't tell me... it will be better as a surprise! ;D |
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discoduster
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by discoduster on Aug 23, 2007 17:57:14 GMT 1, There should be worry it was a copy from staples.............. Yippee-Kai-Yay................... ;D
Well i did think it was supposed to be bigger than A4 
There should be worry it was a copy from staples.............. Yippee-Kai-Yay................... ;D Well i did think it was supposed to be bigger than A4 |
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by bobbymeachamjr on Aug 23, 2007 18:28:08 GMT 1, just remember
ITS BETTER TO BE EXTRA SAFE THAN SORRY. TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION. THIS STUFF IS NOT POCKET CHANGE.
that said do you wanna buy my white signed morons?
just remember
ITS BETTER TO BE EXTRA SAFE THAN SORRY. TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION. THIS STUFF IS NOT POCKET CHANGE.
that said do you wanna buy my white signed morons?
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fedjarojnik
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by fedjarojnik on Aug 23, 2007 23:01:59 GMT 1, many thanks to all - in terms of specifics, if you were about to send a couple of grand overseas would you do it and how (paypal, bank transfer, other ?)
and in what circumstances would you never do it?
many thanks to all - in terms of specifics, if you were about to send a couple of grand overseas would you do it and how (paypal, bank transfer, other ?)
and in what circumstances would you never do it?
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fedjarojnik
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by fedjarojnik on Aug 23, 2007 23:02:51 GMT 1, just remember ITS BETTER TO BE EXTRA SAFE THAN SORRY. TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION. THIS STUFF IS NOT POCKET CHANGE. that said do you wanna buy my white signed morons?
where are you, only if overseas i may consider 
just remember ITS BETTER TO BE EXTRA SAFE THAN SORRY. TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION. THIS STUFF IS NOT POCKET CHANGE. that said do you wanna buy my white signed morons? where are you, only if overseas i may consider |
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by dave313perry on Aug 23, 2007 23:03:33 GMT 1, Good question and very much open to debate, as far as i know there is no possible way of being 100% sure. Best to cover yourself in everway possible
Paypal offers cover if you dont receive but the fees are a stinger!
The courier needs to cover the value of the print incase of damage
Just dont wire transfer into someones bank and no western union for gods sake!
especially to a Nigerian!!
Get to know the seller a little if you can, its upto them to make you feel comfortable with the sale, especially if its outside ebay
Good luck, sorry i couldnt be more specific!
Good question and very much open to debate, as far as i know there is no possible way of being 100% sure. Best to cover yourself in everway possible
Paypal offers cover if you dont receive but the fees are a stinger!
The courier needs to cover the value of the print incase of damage
Just dont wire transfer into someones bank and no western union for gods sake!
especially to a Nigerian!!
Get to know the seller a little if you can, its upto them to make you feel comfortable with the sale, especially if its outside ebay
Good luck, sorry i couldnt be more specific!
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Photoxtc
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by Photoxtc on Aug 23, 2007 23:19:02 GMT 1, I buy stuff from overseas all the time and only had one bad shipping experience where the guy ripped me off on shipping cost but you live and learn... other than that, all good and the member (Well Respected) that I buy stuff from on this board is top notch.... so it just comes down to trust and the reputation of your seller....
I buy stuff from overseas all the time and only had one bad shipping experience where the guy ripped me off on shipping cost but you live and learn... other than that, all good and the member (Well Respected) that I buy stuff from on this board is top notch.... so it just comes down to trust and the reputation of your seller....
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tokyojeff
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by tokyojeff on Aug 23, 2007 23:22:33 GMT 1, In dealing with established Forum members with high posting #'s, your in safe hands.
If you go through old threads you can see who has a track record of sales or trades and get a feel for how these things work. Many sellers accept PayPal but prefer wire transfers as the cost is usually lower and the buyer usually pays this. I have made quite a few transfers this month to various Forum members with no problem whatsoever. I did my homework and checked with a few established members if they knew this person and if he/she was reputable. I would say if you have any concers or questions just post a thread like this one and there are sure to be many who will be of help to you.
Oh and welcome to the Forum !
In dealing with established Forum members with high posting #'s, your in safe hands.
If you go through old threads you can see who has a track record of sales or trades and get a feel for how these things work. Many sellers accept PayPal but prefer wire transfers as the cost is usually lower and the buyer usually pays this. I have made quite a few transfers this month to various Forum members with no problem whatsoever. I did my homework and checked with a few established members if they knew this person and if he/she was reputable. I would say if you have any concers or questions just post a thread like this one and there are sure to be many who will be of help to you.
Oh and welcome to the Forum !
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justinkase
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by justinkase on Aug 24, 2007 1:01:47 GMT 1, Make sure it's someone who spends a decent amount of time on here that other members respect and have heard of. If that person is willing to ruin his name over a couple grand he/she is an idiot...not to mention will be blackballed.
All of my dealings thus far have been super smooth. Let's hope it stays that way.
Make sure it's someone who spends a decent amount of time on here that other members respect and have heard of. If that person is willing to ruin his name over a couple grand he/she is an idiot...not to mention will be blackballed.
All of my dealings thus far have been super smooth. Let's hope it stays that way.
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by bobbymeachamjr on Aug 24, 2007 2:51:45 GMT 1, In dealing with established Forum members with high posting #'s, your in safe hands.
Come on what kind of "advice" is this? Seriously, only a naive fool would believe this is truly safe. Fact is, unless you're doing a face to face transaction the safest route is ebay. At least theres some means for id verification and theres some form of insurance. On a forum you got nothing but hope that the art arrives. This scene is dealing with big bucks and you better believe theres many scammers lurking. In addition, 90% of the stuff that appears for sale here is equal or more than what its going for on ebay. You can have a dozen "good" deals on a forum but all it takes is one miserable deal...
That said I wish people all the best just remember to
TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION IMAGINEABLE.
oh anybody interested in a signed white morons? 
In dealing with established Forum members with high posting #'s, your in safe hands. Come on what kind of "advice" is this? Seriously, only a naive fool would believe this is truly safe. Fact is, unless you're doing a face to face transaction the safest route is ebay. At least theres some means for id verification and theres some form of insurance. On a forum you got nothing but hope that the art arrives. This scene is dealing with big bucks and you better believe theres many scammers lurking. In addition, 90% of the stuff that appears for sale here is equal or more than what its going for on ebay. You can have a dozen "good" deals on a forum but all it takes is one miserable deal... That said I wish people all the best just remember to TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION IMAGINEABLE. oh anybody interested in a signed white morons? |
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tokyojeff
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by tokyojeff on Aug 24, 2007 3:01:50 GMT 1, Yes I did say that and stand by it.
Isn't that why we are here ??
Justin said it well, if you did rip someones face off on here you would get crushed by everyone here. And many on here know each other and could hunt them down.
Just imagine sending BONGO after the sorry git !
Yes I did say that and stand by it.
Isn't that why we are here ??
Justin said it well, if you did rip someones face off on here you would get crushed by everyone here. And many on here know each other and could hunt them down.
Just imagine sending BONGO after the sorry git !
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by runningdog on Aug 24, 2007 3:51:04 GMT 1, Yes I did say that and stand by it. Isn't that why we are here ?? Justin said it well, if you did rip someones face off on here you would get crushed by everyone here. And many on here know each other and could hunt them down. Just imagine sending BONGO after the sorry git !
If a con artist is a few grand richer, he/she won't be worried about some internet forum bods slagging him/her off, will he/she? He'll be laughing all the way to the local Network Q.
Yes I did say that and stand by it. Isn't that why we are here ?? Justin said it well, if you did rip someones face off on here you would get crushed by everyone here. And many on here know each other and could hunt them down. Just imagine sending BONGO after the sorry git ! If a con artist is a few grand richer, he/she won't be worried about some internet forum bods slagging him/her off, will he/she? He'll be laughing all the way to the local Network Q. |
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Ripper1331
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by Ripper1331 on Aug 24, 2007 6:12:30 GMT 1, I think you also just have to have some blind faith in people - I've done loads of transactions with people here and on other forums and only had 1 problem in the past 3 years. I'm sure if you asked the seller if they could provide some references they would.
Paypal's fees are high but its the fastest and the easiest way out there, would never give someone bank account numbers to wire anything into.
I think you also just have to have some blind faith in people - I've done loads of transactions with people here and on other forums and only had 1 problem in the past 3 years. I'm sure if you asked the seller if they could provide some references they would.
Paypal's fees are high but its the fastest and the easiest way out there, would never give someone bank account numbers to wire anything into.
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justinkase
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by justinkase on Aug 24, 2007 6:32:03 GMT 1, I would rather do a deal with a forum member who I've heard of than pay ebay and paypal fees. Fuck that shit.
Let's cut right to the chase. Has ANYONE on here had their money swindled from them in a deal? Would love to know. I bet the percentage of this is extremely low.
I would rather do a deal with a forum member who I've heard of than pay ebay and paypal fees. Fuck that shit.
Let's cut right to the chase. Has ANYONE on here had their money swindled from them in a deal? Would love to know. I bet the percentage of this is extremely low.
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by Deleted on Aug 24, 2007 6:38:06 GMT 1, no never had any money or goods missing from a deal with a forum member. been not paid on ebay loads though. in fact so much i would rather never use it again. your much better off selling to a forum member if you can.
no never had any money or goods missing from a deal with a forum member. been not paid on ebay loads though. in fact so much i would rather never use it again. your much better off selling to a forum member if you can.
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by birdboxsniper on Aug 24, 2007 8:36:31 GMT 1, In dealing with established Forum members with high posting #'s, your in safe hands. Come on what kind of "advice" is this? Seriously, only a naive fool would believe this is truly safe. Fact is, unless you're doing a face to face transaction the safest route is ebay. At least theres some means for id verification and theres some form of insurance. On a forum you got nothing but hope that the art arrives. This scene is dealing with big bucks and you better believe theres many scammers lurking. In addition, 90% of the stuff that appears for sale here is equal or more than what its going for on ebay. You can have a dozen "good" deals on a forum but all it takes is one miserable deal... That said I wish people all the best just remember to TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION IMAGINEABLE. oh anybody interested in a signed white morons?
You are right bobby there is alot of scammers out there and you do always have to be carefull, but i have done loads of deals with people from this forum and wa@@candy and have found everyone to be completly honourable, everyone is always very quick to tell you what a bad world it is but in my experience 99% of people are honest and bend over backwards to do a smooth deal
In dealing with established Forum members with high posting #'s, your in safe hands. Come on what kind of "advice" is this? Seriously, only a naive fool would believe this is truly safe. Fact is, unless you're doing a face to face transaction the safest route is ebay. At least theres some means for id verification and theres some form of insurance. On a forum you got nothing but hope that the art arrives. This scene is dealing with big bucks and you better believe theres many scammers lurking. In addition, 90% of the stuff that appears for sale here is equal or more than what its going for on ebay. You can have a dozen "good" deals on a forum but all it takes is one miserable deal... That said I wish people all the best just remember to TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION IMAGINEABLE. oh anybody interested in a signed white morons? You are right bobby there is alot of scammers out there and you do always have to be carefull, but i have done loads of deals with people from this forum and wa@@candy and have found everyone to be completly honourable, everyone is always very quick to tell you what a bad world it is but in my experience 99% of people are honest and bend over backwards to do a smooth deal |
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pezlow
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by pezlow on Aug 24, 2007 11:05:29 GMT 1, Come on what kind of "advice" is this? Seriously, only a naive fool would believe this is truly safe. Fact is, unless you're doing a face to face transaction the safest route is ebay. At least theres some means for id verification and theres some form of insurance. On a forum you got nothing but hope that the art arrives. This scene is dealing with big bucks and you better believe theres many scammers lurking. In addition, 90% of the stuff that appears for sale here is equal or more than what its going for on ebay. You can have a dozen "good" deals on a forum but all it takes is one miserable deal... That said I wish people all the best just remember to TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION IMAGINEABLE. oh anybody interested in a signed white morons? You are right bobby there is alot of scammers out there and you do always have to be carefull, but i have done loads of deals with people from this forum and wa@@candy and have found everyone to be completly honourable, everyone is always very quick to tell you what a bad world it is but in my experience 99% of people are honest and bend over backwards to do a smooth deal
I agree. In fact here is a list of the people I have dealt with here (buying, selling and trading) all of which have gone very smoothly. Some of these have been through dealings on the charity art auction I organised a while ago. This is off the top of my head so if I have forgotten anyone please just shout up and remind me:
Thomas
Tylerdurden1
brut
carl
bombhugger
uglyiq
user
reados
ripper1331
cbl
frankie3
neutral
jjoschi
retrocanvas
saltandiron
johnstonamerica
mred
hardcanvas
ABC
Rat
Macdee
romanywg
countjedi
abdoujaparov
toliver
As I say there are others, I just can't remember them right now. In addition there are plenty of other forum members who I haven't specifically had dealings with but would vouch for them.
Come on what kind of "advice" is this? Seriously, only a naive fool would believe this is truly safe. Fact is, unless you're doing a face to face transaction the safest route is ebay. At least theres some means for id verification and theres some form of insurance. On a forum you got nothing but hope that the art arrives. This scene is dealing with big bucks and you better believe theres many scammers lurking. In addition, 90% of the stuff that appears for sale here is equal or more than what its going for on ebay. You can have a dozen "good" deals on a forum but all it takes is one miserable deal... That said I wish people all the best just remember to TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION IMAGINEABLE. oh anybody interested in a signed white morons? You are right bobby there is alot of scammers out there and you do always have to be carefull, but i have done loads of deals with people from this forum and wa@@candy and have found everyone to be completly honourable, everyone is always very quick to tell you what a bad world it is but in my experience 99% of people are honest and bend over backwards to do a smooth deal I agree. In fact here is a list of the people I have dealt with here (buying, selling and trading) all of which have gone very smoothly. Some of these have been through dealings on the charity art auction I organised a while ago. This is off the top of my head so if I have forgotten anyone please just shout up and remind me: Thomas Tylerdurden1 brut carl bombhugger uglyiq user reados ripper1331 cbl frankie3 neutral jjoschi retrocanvas saltandiron johnstonamerica mred hardcanvas ABC Rat Macdee romanywg countjedi abdoujaparov toliver As I say there are others, I just can't remember them right now. In addition there are plenty of other forum members who I haven't specifically had dealings with but would vouch for them. |
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Montubu7
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by Montubu7 on Aug 24, 2007 11:08:26 GMT 1, Agree with Pezlow, heres my list that i can vouch for
Thomas
Pezlow
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Agree with Pezlow, heres my list that i can vouch for
Thomas
Pezlow
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pezlow
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Purchasing from forum members overseas, by pezlow on Aug 24, 2007 11:09:45 GMT 1, Lol
Lol
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