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Fake Banksy Prints, by manty on Aug 8, 2007 20:43:35 GMT 1, Hi
1st Post from me so Hello :-)
Not sure if I am posting on the right board and apologies if I have but....
I have just purchased my first Banksy, and would like to continue collecting them
One subject I have searched for, and am sure has been covered but I've not found, is information or a guide on what to look out for when buying to avoid fake prints.
Any help appreciated
Thanks
Brendan
Hi
1st Post from me so Hello :-)
Not sure if I am posting on the right board and apologies if I have but....
I have just purchased my first Banksy, and would like to continue collecting them
One subject I have searched for, and am sure has been covered but I've not found, is information or a guide on what to look out for when buying to avoid fake prints.
Any help appreciated
Thanks
Brendan
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Fake Banksy Prints, by corblimeylimey on Aug 8, 2007 21:06:02 GMT 1, Provenance
Check that the seller can show you all the transactions for that print going back to the original owner, whose name and address you'll need, then email POW and ask them to confirm that the print number is registered with them to that name and address.
Hopefully get the original email order confirmation
Check the POW stamp (if your print is meant to have one)
Check the numbering is correct.
Check the print and paper size.
Info on all prints here...
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=banksyprints
Provenance Check that the seller can show you all the transactions for that print going back to the original owner, whose name and address you'll need, then email POW and ask them to confirm that the print number is registered with them to that name and address. Hopefully get the original email order confirmation Check the POW stamp (if your print is meant to have one) Check the numbering is correct. Check the print and paper size. Info on all prints here... banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=banksyprints |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by nixon451 on Aug 8, 2007 21:38:02 GMT 1, Has anyone ever seen a fake Banky print? I'm not talking about a back-door job. I mean a strait out fake.
Has anyone ever seen a fake Banky print? I'm not talking about a back-door job. I mean a strait out fake.
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Fake Banksy Prints, by corblimeylimey on Aug 8, 2007 22:00:40 GMT 1, Has anyone ever seen a fake Banky print? I'm not talking about a back-door job. I mean a strait out fake.
There was one reported on this site by a member that had bought it off ebay (from I think, the States) it was a Love Rat I think, and it had a POW stamp too.
It was the paper that gave it away, it had a watermark in it that it shouldn't of had and POW were sent the print and confirmed it wasn't legit.
Has anyone ever seen a fake Banky print? I'm not talking about a back-door job. I mean a strait out fake. There was one reported on this site by a member that had bought it off ebay (from I think, the States) it was a Love Rat I think, and it had a POW stamp too. It was the paper that gave it away, it had a watermark in it that it shouldn't of had and POW were sent the print and confirmed it wasn't legit. |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 8, 2007 22:48:35 GMT 1, Has anyone ever seen a fake Banky print? I'm not talking about a back-door job. I mean a strait out fake. There was one reported on this site by a member that had bought it off ebay (from I think, the States) it was a Love Rat I think, and it had a POW stamp too. It was the paper that gave it away, it had a watermark in it that it shouldn't of had and POW were sent the print and confirmed it wasn't legit.
someone produced a fake grannies a while back.. with a forged laz prov..
have only heard of those two though
Has anyone ever seen a fake Banky print? I'm not talking about a back-door job. I mean a strait out fake. There was one reported on this site by a member that had bought it off ebay (from I think, the States) it was a Love Rat I think, and it had a POW stamp too. It was the paper that gave it away, it had a watermark in it that it shouldn't of had and POW were sent the print and confirmed it wasn't legit. someone produced a fake grannies a while back.. with a forged laz prov.. have only heard of those two though |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by Wiseblood on Aug 8, 2007 23:15:37 GMT 1, an email from dora is easy to fake, not a good thing really
an email from dora is easy to fake, not a good thing really
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Fake Banksy Prints, by sammyman on Aug 8, 2007 23:16:21 GMT 1, I almost purchased a fake Applause just two weeks ago. I kept looking at the pic of the print over and over again. It was definitely a fake. I could post pics if anyone was interested. I found the guy off of expressobeans. That A$$ is probably reading this right now....
I almost purchased a fake Applause just two weeks ago. I kept looking at the pic of the print over and over again. It was definitely a fake. I could post pics if anyone was interested. I found the guy off of expressobeans. That A$$ is probably reading this right now....
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Fake Banksy Prints, by Wiseblood on Aug 8, 2007 23:17:46 GMT 1, post pics please
post pics please
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Fake Banksy Prints, by Curley on Aug 9, 2007 7:48:00 GMT 1, yes, pictures pls to prevent anyone else being scammed...
yes, pictures pls to prevent anyone else being scammed...
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Fake Banksy Prints, by sammyman on Aug 9, 2007 7:58:14 GMT 1, Your wish is my command... Here is a close up:
Notice how black everything is? There is no detail in the pants of the two men. Look at any real Applause and you will know this is a fake. Also the yellow looks terribly wrong.
I first knew it was a fake by looking at the pants of the crouched guy. One is black, the other two below have LOADS of detail.
Your wish is my command... Here is a close up: Notice how black everything is? There is no detail in the pants of the two men. Look at any real Applause and you will know this is a fake. Also the yellow looks terribly wrong. I first knew it was a fake by looking at the pants of the crouched guy. One is black, the other two below have LOADS of detail. |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by sammyman on Aug 9, 2007 8:04:54 GMT 1, And here for comparison  I actually paid this guy before I saw the pictures, and asked for a refund right away. Waited for the refund to clear before I mentioned it here.  As far as I know, Mr. manty above is the culprit!
And here for comparison I actually paid this guy before I saw the pictures, and asked for a refund right away. Waited for the refund to clear before I mentioned it here. As far as I know, Mr. manty above is the culprit! |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by pastiepie on Aug 9, 2007 9:32:20 GMT 1, Are you sure you're not just comparing the US / UK editions? If you were to fake a print wouldn't you choose something smaller, more valuable, less intricate and only a single colour like HMV?
Are you sure you're not just comparing the US / UK editions? If you were to fake a print wouldn't you choose something smaller, more valuable, less intricate and only a single colour like HMV?
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Fake Banksy Prints, by bristolmassive on Aug 9, 2007 9:53:04 GMT 1, yep the difference in shades between the LA and UK versions has been discussed at length...if only I could find the thread!
I'll keep searching.
yep the difference in shades between the LA and UK versions has been discussed at length...if only I could find the thread!
I'll keep searching.
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Fake Banksy Prints, by bristolmassive on Aug 9, 2007 10:04:31 GMT 1, CBL - you always do that ;D ;D ;D
CBL - you always do that ;D ;D ;D
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Fake Banksy Prints, by Curley on Aug 9, 2007 11:01:26 GMT 1, Are you sure you're not just comparing the US / UK editions? If you were to fake a print wouldn't you choose something smaller, more valuable, less intricate and only a single colour like HMV?
i was thinking the same as the one you say is fake looks just like my own which came direct from POW.
Are you sure you're not just comparing the US / UK editions? If you were to fake a print wouldn't you choose something smaller, more valuable, less intricate and only a single colour like HMV? i was thinking the same as the one you say is fake looks just like my own which came direct from POW. |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by Wiseblood on Aug 9, 2007 11:23:27 GMT 1, Who printed the LA versions?
Who printed the LA versions?
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Fake Banksy Prints, by sammyman on Aug 9, 2007 15:11:01 GMT 1, You guys, come on! That was not the LA edition! That was my first thought. Look at the pants of the guy squatting.... Compare that to the LA version. The LA version is black and grey. The fake is all black. Look more closely.
You guys, come on! That was not the LA edition! That was my first thought. Look at the pants of the guy squatting.... Compare that to the LA version. The LA version is black and grey. The fake is all black. Look more closely.
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Fake Banksy Prints, by nixon451 on Aug 9, 2007 15:34:26 GMT 1, All I will say about it is if you use a flash when taking a picture it can drastically change the way a print looks.
All I will say about it is if you use a flash when taking a picture it can drastically change the way a print looks.
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Fake Banksy Prints, by corblimeylimey on Aug 9, 2007 16:59:38 GMT 1, Sammyman that picture you posted looks awful, it has to be based on the POW print as it's got a strong vertical line in the sky near the A of the word Applause, It looks really fuzzy and dark, and I don't know whats going on with the yellow Jackets, it doesn't look right at all.
It could just be a very bad photo taken with a camera phone or something else that can't give a good result, or its a photo of a poor photocopy type reproduction.
Sammyman that picture you posted looks awful, it has to be based on the POW print as it's got a strong vertical line in the sky near the A of the word Applause, It looks really fuzzy and dark, and I don't know whats going on with the yellow Jackets, it doesn't look right at all.
It could just be a very bad photo taken with a camera phone or something else that can't give a good result, or its a photo of a poor photocopy type reproduction.
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Fake Banksy Prints, by sammyman on Aug 9, 2007 17:00:29 GMT 1, I don't care what edition it is, it is a fake. Flash can change the white balance of a picture, but it will not remove all of the detail. Look again at the side by side. The two editions (LA and POW) are only different in contrast, and not in detail. The fake on the far right has no detail in the pants, as well as a completely wrong yellow that looks unnatural. Pictures from the worst camera can't take these details away.
I don't care what edition it is, it is a fake. Flash can change the white balance of a picture, but it will not remove all of the detail. Look again at the side by side. The two editions (LA and POW) are only different in contrast, and not in detail. The fake on the far right has no detail in the pants, as well as a completely wrong yellow that looks unnatural. Pictures from the worst camera can't take these details away. |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by sammyman on Aug 9, 2007 17:05:47 GMT 1, It looks really fuzzy and dark, and I don't know whats going on with the yellow Jackets, it doesn't look right at all.
Thank you! The dark and fuzziness is a result of the fact that it is fake.
It looks really fuzzy and dark, and I don't know whats going on with the yellow Jackets, it doesn't look right at all. Thank you! The dark and fuzziness is a result of the fact that it is fake. |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by corblimeylimey on Aug 9, 2007 17:13:31 GMT 1, I've tried to turn my photo to one that matches yours by using photoshop, I got to say it's pretty tricky, this was the best (worst) I could make it.
I've tried to turn my photo to one that matches yours by using photoshop, I got to say it's pretty tricky, this was the best (worst) I could make it. |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by sammyman on Aug 9, 2007 17:19:27 GMT 1, this was the best (worst) I could make it.
And the details in the pants are still very clear. The more I look at the fake, the more I see wrong with it. There is no shadow. The plane looks totally washed out. There are not two distinct colors on the helmet (gray and black stripes). It is very very wrong.
this was the best (worst) I could make it. And the details in the pants are still very clear. The more I look at the fake, the more I see wrong with it. There is no shadow. The plane looks totally washed out. There are not two distinct colors on the helmet (gray and black stripes). It is very very wrong. |
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Fake Banksy Prints, by corblimeylimey on Aug 9, 2007 17:32:51 GMT 1, There's always been stuff like this for sale
ebay item 170138011583
There's always been stuff like this for sale
ebay item 170138011583
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Fake Banksy Prints, by sammyman on Aug 9, 2007 17:57:55 GMT 1, There's always been stuff like this for sale ebay item 170138011583
Wow! That looks a whole lot better than the fake!
The real scary thing about the fake is that it was the same size paper, with POW stamp and numbered, and verified by Dora!!!!
There's always been stuff like this for sale ebay item 170138011583 Wow! That looks a whole lot better than the fake! The real scary thing about the fake is that it was the same size paper, with POW stamp and numbered, and verified by Dora!!!! |
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I actually paid this guy before I saw the pictures, and asked for a refund right away. Waited for the refund to clear before I mentioned it here. 
As far as I know, Mr. manty above is the culprit!
