chrisp50
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 16:27:35 GMT 1, Hi guys i wonder if you can help me out, i have recentley gone out on a limb and purchased a paper storage box, this was bought by a friend from a closed down news agents near waterloo, he bought it for storage at his shop, But once the billposters was cleared off of this there was what i believe to be a Banksy rat? .
Can anybody help?
All help would be brill.
Thanks
Hi guys i wonder if you can help me out, i have recentley gone out on a limb and purchased a paper storage box, this was bought by a friend from a closed down news agents near waterloo, he bought it for storage at his shop, But once the billposters was cleared off of this there was what i believe to be a Banksy rat? . Can anybody help? All help would be brill. Thanks |
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Help Please Is This Real?, by corblimeylimey on Apr 23, 2007 16:36:49 GMT 1, Couldn't say for sure, so I won't, just a few observations though, the box looks pretty new and so does the rat, I can't see much sign of wear & tear or the effects of having posters stuck to it and being scrapped off, and I'm not sure about the white outline in places.
Couldn't say for sure, so I won't, just a few observations though, the box looks pretty new and so does the rat, I can't see much sign of wear & tear or the effects of having posters stuck to it and being scrapped off, and I'm not sure about the white outline in places.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 16:41:54 GMT 1, Hi, thanks for your observations, box is in v good condition few dents anscratches on the back and inside of box, the bill posters came off very easilywith water and a brush, As for the white bits not v sure my self thats why i thought i would ask u guys looks like it maybe some thing underneath or it could have come off a bill poster??
Hi, thanks for your observations, box is in v good condition few dents anscratches on the back and inside of box, the bill posters came off very easilywith water and a brush, As for the white bits not v sure my self thats why i thought i would ask u guys looks like it maybe some thing underneath or it could have come off a bill poster? ? |
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Help Please Is This Real?, by bombshelter on Apr 23, 2007 16:51:01 GMT 1, Ive been checking some of banksys other rats and i think your one looks abit high?
it also looks a bit on the fresh side!
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Help Please Is This Real?, by Macdeee on Apr 23, 2007 16:55:20 GMT 1, Its a radar rat without the red circles... Pretty sure its not real. There used to be alot of rats around waterloo, but i never saw that one.
Its a radar rat without the red circles... Pretty sure its not real. There used to be alot of rats around waterloo, but i never saw that one.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 16:55:24 GMT 1, This is v true! :-(
This is v true! :-(
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Help Please Is This Real?, by pezlow on Apr 23, 2007 16:56:51 GMT 1, I am no expert either but it may be OK. If it did come from Waterloo then Banksy sprayed up an awful lot of these type of structures around waterloo a few years ago. You would be best asking Thugs, Moffla or Police aware on the ebay group. They really do know their stuff about this sort of thing.
I am no expert either but it may be OK. If it did come from Waterloo then Banksy sprayed up an awful lot of these type of structures around waterloo a few years ago. You would be best asking Thugs, Moffla or Police aware on the ebay group. They really do know their stuff about this sort of thing.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 16:58:47 GMT 1, Oh great thanks for your help
Oh great thanks for your help
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Help Please Is This Real?, by Strange Al on Apr 23, 2007 17:04:26 GMT 1, You would be best asking Thugs, Moffla or Police aware on the ebay group. They really do know their stuff about this sort of thing.
I second that advice.
You would be best asking Thugs, Moffla or Police aware on the ebay group. They really do know their stuff about this sort of thing. I second that advice. |
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 17:26:37 GMT 1, How can i get in touch with them? is there a link for this site, cheers
How can i get in touch with them? is there a link for this site, cheers
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Help Please Is This Real?, by pezlow on Apr 23, 2007 17:30:11 GMT 1, Log on to ebay.co.uk - go to community and groups - search for the banksy group, join up and post your question there.
Log on to ebay.co.uk - go to community and groups - search for the banksy group, join up and post your question there.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by ®at on Apr 23, 2007 17:38:39 GMT 1, Should have left the posters on the rest of it (obviously not covering the rat!)
Looks ok to me
The height may be something to do with it being next to something or there being something on the side of it up to that height in it's original location?
Should have left the posters on the rest of it (obviously not covering the rat!)
Looks ok to me
The height may be something to do with it being next to something or there being something on the side of it up to that height in it's original location?
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 17:41:59 GMT 1, Thanks il do that now.
Thanks il do that now.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by Run Pig Run on Apr 23, 2007 17:43:03 GMT 1, if it is real you have to be able to prove that it's real otherwise it may as well be fake.
The tail looks thicker, there is no strap around the rats neck and the rat is facing a different way to the one in wall and peice. There is one in extistencilism that is facing this way, but looks thinner and the white paint behind the black does seem a little strange.
finally the print of this does actually have no strap and is facing the right way....
if it is real you have to be able to prove that it's real otherwise it may as well be fake. The tail looks thicker, there is no strap around the rats neck and the rat is facing a different way to the one in wall and peice. There is one in extistencilism that is facing this way, but looks thinner and the white paint behind the black does seem a little strange. finally the print of this does actually have no strap and is facing the right way.... |
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 17:46:47 GMT 1, But again, no sign of the red swirls on this, mmmmmm this is confusing me now.
But again, no sign of the red swirls on this, mmmmmm this is confusing me now.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by corblimeylimey on Apr 23, 2007 17:49:15 GMT 1, What's going on with your shrinking avatar bombhugger?
What's going on with your shrinking avatar bombhugger?
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Help Please Is This Real?, by KaL976 on Apr 23, 2007 17:52:05 GMT 1, There's visible overspray too - I've been wrong before but it does look a bit fresh - would be good to see the posters that were removed, eg: the dates on them, etc.
There's visible overspray too - I've been wrong before but it does look a bit fresh - would be good to see the posters that were removed, eg: the dates on them, etc.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by arcam on Apr 23, 2007 17:52:40 GMT 1, 
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 17:55:59 GMT 1, I know im gutted about this now i wish they had not been removed, and theywill be long gone now as they were removed about 3 weeks ago!!!! :-(
I know im gutted about this now i wish they had not been removed, and theywill be long gone now as they were removed about 3 weeks ago!!!! :-(
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Help Please Is This Real?, by corblimeylimey on Apr 23, 2007 18:06:57 GMT 1, This one isn't real, it's been done by this forums very own Rabbitlegs, it shows how difficult it is to tell original from copy,
This one isn't real, it's been done by this forums very own Rabbitlegs, it shows how difficult it is to tell original from copy, |
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 18:14:11 GMT 1, That is MASSIVE and awesome
That is MASSIVE and awesome
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Help Please Is This Real?, by Honest Jon on Apr 23, 2007 18:15:33 GMT 1, You just know when you put your rubbish out, its gona get knicked.
You just know when you put your rubbish out, its gona get knicked.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by numusic on Apr 23, 2007 18:16:30 GMT 1, I'd say a very resounding no, looks brand new. Both boxes with rats I've evr seen had been there for years and were rightly battered. Also, this looks like a two layer stencil, the white highlights look really off, if you were cutting this as a 2 layer, then you'd fill out all, the parts that show the background. i.e, you'd make it black and white. A far as I know, the rat stencils are single layer, black, designed for quick hits.
I'd say a very resounding no, looks brand new. Both boxes with rats I've evr seen had been there for years and were rightly battered. Also, this looks like a two layer stencil, the white highlights look really off, if you were cutting this as a 2 layer, then you'd fill out all, the parts that show the background. i.e, you'd make it black and white. A far as I know, the rat stencils are single layer, black, designed for quick hits.
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 18:18:53 GMT 1, Starting to belive this is not real either i think i shal put it on ebay to try reclaim some money back :-(
Starting to belive this is not real either i think i shal put it on ebay to try reclaim some money back :-(
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Help Please Is This Real?, by numusic on Apr 23, 2007 18:29:01 GMT 1, that looks as fake as the one on the box ! 
that looks as fake as the one on the box ! |
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Help Please Is This Real?, by numusic on Apr 23, 2007 18:31:22 GMT 1, Starting to belive this is not real either i think i shal put it on ebay to try reclaim some money back :-(
wtf !?!, don't be scamming someone else, take it on the chin.. or go find the t**t that sold you it and take it out on his chin
Starting to belive this is not real either i think i shal put it on ebay to try reclaim some money back :-( wtf !?!, don't be scamming someone else, take it on the chin.. or go find the t**t that sold you it and take it out on his chin |
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Help Please Is This Real?, by tomhills1 on Apr 23, 2007 18:33:10 GMT 1, Starting to belive this is not real either i think i shal put it on ebay to try reclaim some money back :-(
be sure to refer any potential buyers to this thread though yeah?
Starting to belive this is not real either i think i shal put it on ebay to try reclaim some money back :-( be sure to refer any potential buyers to this thread though yeah? |
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Help Please Is This Real?, by chrisp50 on Apr 23, 2007 18:44:19 GMT 1, Yes i wiil , im not out to make money, some one might like it and want it tho. ? ( I HOPE)
Yes i wiil , im not out to make money, some one might like it and want it tho. ? ( I HOPE)
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Help Please Is This Real?, by RetroCanvas on Apr 23, 2007 18:54:05 GMT 1, I think that the white highlights are where the paper stencil has been kept on too long. The paint has dried and the paper has stuck to it. The finish would be different if it had a white layer underneath.
Fake!
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I'd say a very resounding no, looks brand new. Both boxes with rats I've evr seen had been there for years and were rightly battered. Also, this looks like a two layer stencil, the white highlights look really off, if you were cutting this as a 2 layer, then you'd fill out all, the parts that show the background. i.e, you'd make it black and white. A far as I know, the rat stencils are single layer, black, designed for quick hits.
I think that the white highlights are where the paper stencil has been kept on too long. The paint has dried and the paper has stuck to it. The finish would be different if it had a white layer underneath. Fake! retro I'd say a very resounding no, looks brand new. Both boxes with rats I've evr seen had been there for years and were rightly battered. Also, this looks like a two layer stencil, the white highlights look really off, if you were cutting this as a 2 layer, then you'd fill out all, the parts that show the background. i.e, you'd make it black and white. A far as I know, the rat stencils are single layer, black, designed for quick hits. |
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