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Gone Thanks, by bornnwithawoodensp on Apr 29, 2011 19:24:25 GMT 1, Signed number 5 of 5 10" x 8" canvas. Bank transfer or paypal gift please. ยฃ50 delivered within UK. ยฃ55 delivered worldwide.
Signed number 5 of 5 10" x 8" canvas. Bank transfer or paypal gift please. ยฃ50 delivered within UK. ยฃ55 delivered worldwide.
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ricobenfico
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Gone Thanks, by ricobenfico on Apr 29, 2011 19:35:04 GMT 1, Mate, that's terrible. Having read your other thread, I'd send it back for a refund.
Mate, that's terrible. Having read your other thread, I'd send it back for a refund.
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Monkey
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Gone Thanks, by Monkey on Apr 29, 2011 20:10:28 GMT 1, Signed number 5 of 5 10" x 8" canvas. Bank transfer or paypal gift please. ยฃ50 delivered within UK. ยฃ55 delivered worldwide.
Im sorry but that is truly awful ( My humble opinion of course )
Signed number 5 of 5 10" x 8" canvas. Bank transfer or paypal gift please. ยฃ50 delivered within UK. ยฃ55 delivered worldwide. Im sorry but that is truly awful ( My humble opinion of course )
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neale
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Gone Thanks, by neale on Apr 29, 2011 20:12:52 GMT 1, I see why he only did 5
I see why he only did 5
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redfred
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Gone Thanks, by redfred on Apr 29, 2011 20:20:58 GMT 1, To think there are another 4 of these roaming around somewhere!!!
To think there are another 4 of these roaming around somewhere!!!
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Francis
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Gone Thanks, by Francis on Apr 29, 2011 20:21:56 GMT 1, how much has prices increased since the last show?
how much has prices increased since the last show?
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sohohoho
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Gone Thanks, by sohohoho on Apr 29, 2011 20:27:39 GMT 1,
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Shoeless
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Gone Thanks, by Shoeless on Apr 29, 2011 20:34:14 GMT 1, After reading your thread, I suggest you burn it and rid yourself of the whole situation.
After reading your thread, I suggest you burn it and rid yourself of the whole situation.
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Francis
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Gone Thanks, by Francis on Apr 29, 2011 20:35:41 GMT 1, have you considered hiring a lawyer?
have you considered hiring a lawyer?
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Gone Thanks, by Deleted on Apr 29, 2011 20:40:23 GMT 1, I will pay you 5 gbp if you burn it. if 9 others join me you have your money.
I will pay you 5 gbp if you burn it. if 9 others join me you have your money.
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Gone Thanks, by xmyart on Apr 29, 2011 20:57:30 GMT 1, Give it to a charity shop, ask them to put it in their window. Then go back each day and take a picture of it to post here. I want to know how long it takes to sell.
Run some kind of sweepstake and you have a chance to get your money back. Think i saw somewhere they have a NO REFUNDS policy ;-)
Give it to a charity shop, ask them to put it in their window. Then go back each day and take a picture of it to post here. I want to know how long it takes to sell.
Run some kind of sweepstake and you have a chance to get your money back. Think i saw somewhere they have a NO REFUNDS policy ;-)
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mmmike
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Gone Thanks, by mmmike on Apr 29, 2011 21:19:44 GMT 1, Seems like a whole bunch of people following the crowd. IMO Cartrain should have offered a refund but he didn't. He did offer an original 1 of 1 larger canvas and more. If that was Banksy who made that offer to someone they would shit their pants with joy.
This deal got messed up because the buyer didn't know what he wanted when the original canvas was no longer an option. Cartrain and team tried to make it right.
Not sure why everyone is now knocking Cartrain. If you don't like the work, then move on. What is the big deal? Not my cup of tea either but I would encourage Cartrain to keep at it and if he did something I liked down the road I would deal with him and his team seems like they did offer options and went out of their way to try to make it right.
Seems like a whole bunch of people following the crowd. IMO Cartrain should have offered a refund but he didn't. He did offer an original 1 of 1 larger canvas and more. If that was Banksy who made that offer to someone they would shit their pants with joy.
This deal got messed up because the buyer didn't know what he wanted when the original canvas was no longer an option. Cartrain and team tried to make it right.
Not sure why everyone is now knocking Cartrain. If you don't like the work, then move on. What is the big deal? Not my cup of tea either but I would encourage Cartrain to keep at it and if he did something I liked down the road I would deal with him and his team seems like they did offer options and went out of their way to try to make it right.
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Shoeless
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Gone Thanks, by Shoeless on Apr 29, 2011 21:32:38 GMT 1, The way the situation reads to me is, the buyer paid for one thing and received another. Sure, a 1/1 larger may seem, better, but its not what he paid for. Sure, it would be different if it was Banksy....but its far from that so the point it moot. Im not knocking Cartrains work, Im knocking his and his "agents" lack of professional business practices. No need to debate this here though as theres another thread dedicated to the topic. Cheers
The way the situation reads to me is, the buyer paid for one thing and received another. Sure, a 1/1 larger may seem, better, but its not what he paid for. Sure, it would be different if it was Banksy....but its far from that so the point it moot. Im not knocking Cartrains work, Im knocking his and his "agents" lack of professional business practices. No need to debate this here though as theres another thread dedicated to the topic. Cheers
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mmmike
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Gone Thanks, by mmmike on Apr 29, 2011 21:39:26 GMT 1, Sorry for contributing to the derailing of this thread but I think it has been killed already by all the haters.
If the buyer had demanded a refund upfront that would be one thing but he agreed to take the 1 of 1 so at that point it is on him. When he didn't like that because some how he thought he would get that as a bonus with his 1 of 5 then he wanted something else and made other crazy requests. Giving a larger bonus original with his edition, That would be like buying an apartment and getting a house as a bonus. What was he thinking?
The buyer screwed up. Now he is living with it. So why not let him start a new thread and all the haters can play here and leave the other one alone.
Sorry for contributing to the derailing of this thread but I think it has been killed already by all the haters.
If the buyer had demanded a refund upfront that would be one thing but he agreed to take the 1 of 1 so at that point it is on him. When he didn't like that because some how he thought he would get that as a bonus with his 1 of 5 then he wanted something else and made other crazy requests. Giving a larger bonus original with his edition, That would be like buying an apartment and getting a house as a bonus. What was he thinking?
The buyer screwed up. Now he is living with it. So why not let him start a new thread and all the haters can play here and leave the other one alone.
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Gone Thanks, by skem on Apr 29, 2011 21:41:56 GMT 1, Cartrain - If you read this please do all a favor since you won't give this guy a refund, take the man's money you have and invest in some kind of spray adhesive, so you don't get such crappy overspray.
Cartrain - If you read this please do all a favor since you won't give this guy a refund, take the man's money you have and invest in some kind of spray adhesive, so you don't get such crappy overspray.
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sohohoho
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Gone Thanks, by sohohoho on Apr 29, 2011 22:29:50 GMT 1, Sorry for contributing to the derailing of this thread but I think it has been killed already by all the haters. If the buyer had demanded a refund upfront that would be one thing but he agreed to take the 1 of 1 so at that point it is on him. When he didn't like that because some how he thought he would get that as a bonus with his 1 of 5 then he wanted something else and made other crazy requests. Giving a larger bonus original with his edition, That would be like buying an apartment and getting a house as a bonus. What was he thinking? The buyer screwed up. Now he is living with it. So why not let him start a new thread and all the haters can play here and leave the other one alone.
You're chatting the worst s**t. bornnwithawoodensp rightly presumed he was receiving his original order (1/5) + the 1/1 as compensation for the ridiculous delay. The poor guy just wanted what he paid for so agreed to swap the 1/1 package with a random guy, organised by Cartrain's "agent" but at bornnwithawoodensp's own expense, for his 5/5. The 5/5 arrived and it's nothing like the 1/5 he originally ordered. Fair? I think not.
What happened to the 1/5? Damaged? If so, why wasn't another knocked up to keep the integrity of the edition and sent to bornnwithawoodensp? Sounds like bulls**t to me. More likely Cartrain sold it twice. If so, why not just tell the truth?
bornnwithawoodensp has been messed about for 10 weeks. Totally inexcusable. Cartrain needs to make things right!
Sorry for contributing to the derailing of this thread but I think it has been killed already by all the haters. If the buyer had demanded a refund upfront that would be one thing but he agreed to take the 1 of 1 so at that point it is on him. When he didn't like that because some how he thought he would get that as a bonus with his 1 of 5 then he wanted something else and made other crazy requests. Giving a larger bonus original with his edition, That would be like buying an apartment and getting a house as a bonus. What was he thinking? The buyer screwed up. Now he is living with it. So why not let him start a new thread and all the haters can play here and leave the other one alone. You're chatting the worst s**t. bornnwithawoodensp rightly presumed he was receiving his original order (1/5) + the 1/1 as compensation for the ridiculous delay. The poor guy just wanted what he paid for so agreed to swap the 1/1 package with a random guy, organised by Cartrain's "agent" but at bornnwithawoodensp's own expense, for his 5/5. The 5/5 arrived and it's nothing like the 1/5 he originally ordered. Fair? I think not. What happened to the 1/5? Damaged? If so, why wasn't another knocked up to keep the integrity of the edition and sent to bornnwithawoodensp? Sounds like bulls**t to me. More likely Cartrain sold it twice. If so, why not just tell the truth? bornnwithawoodensp has been messed about for 10 weeks. Totally inexcusable. Cartrain needs to make things right!
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.dappy
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Gone Thanks, by .dappy on Apr 29, 2011 22:51:47 GMT 1, Cartrain or Alistairkhalil could make an offer?
Cartrain or Alistairkhalil could make an offer?
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misterx
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Gone Thanks, by misterx on Apr 29, 2011 23:22:29 GMT 1, Guess your not gonna hang it afterall....
Guess your not gonna hang it afterall....
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Gone Thanks, by decorum on Apr 29, 2011 23:25:01 GMT 1, mmmike - couldnt agree more with what you are saying.
If bornwithawoodensp is egging on another anti-cartrain debate then he has done a good job. If he's simply trying to sell some work then let it be. If you want the piece then buy it.
In saying that, Cartrain and Alistairkhalil portray themselves as 'holier than thou' and really should stop. The work on B's Camden canal piece was childish, the 'biggin' up of "future works" is so far unjustified and the work that i see on the street and on this forum are far from rocking my boat.
Advice to bornwithawoodensp: whack the canvas on ebay - you might be surprised!
Advice to Cartrain/Alistairkhalil: Stop for a second, grow up, think about what you are doing and show us all some originality, skill and something to talk about (in a positive way!)
mmmike - couldnt agree more with what you are saying.
If bornwithawoodensp is egging on another anti-cartrain debate then he has done a good job. If he's simply trying to sell some work then let it be. If you want the piece then buy it.
In saying that, Cartrain and Alistairkhalil portray themselves as 'holier than thou' and really should stop. The work on B's Camden canal piece was childish, the 'biggin' up of "future works" is so far unjustified and the work that i see on the street and on this forum are far from rocking my boat.
Advice to bornwithawoodensp: whack the canvas on ebay - you might be surprised!
Advice to Cartrain/Alistairkhalil: Stop for a second, grow up, think about what you are doing and show us all some originality, skill and something to talk about (in a positive way!)
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Gone Thanks, by manty on Apr 29, 2011 23:28:27 GMT 1, I will pay you 5 gbp if you burn it. if 9 others join me you have your money.
I'm in
would want to see photos
I will pay you 5 gbp if you burn it. if 9 others join me you have your money. I'm in would want to see photos
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Gone Thanks, by thehighlife on Apr 29, 2011 23:34:03 GMT 1, I will pay you 5 gbp if you burn it. if 9 others join me you have your money. I'm in would want to see photos
I'm in as well! where do I paypal? Plus I would need some youtube video which would be awesome! something like this?
I will pay you 5 gbp if you burn it. if 9 others join me you have your money. I'm in would want to see photos I'm in as well! where do I paypal? Plus I would need some youtube video which would be awesome! something like this?
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Gone Thanks, by Guest on Apr 29, 2011 23:35:31 GMT 1, I'd be a little annoyed if I'd have paid money for this, not having a dig at the artist but the quality looks terrible, far too much over spray, looks like a rushed job.
I'd be a little annoyed if I'd have paid money for this, not having a dig at the artist but the quality looks terrible, far too much over spray, looks like a rushed job.
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Gone Thanks, by theleveller on Apr 29, 2011 23:37:03 GMT 1, This is stupid bornwithawoodensp paid cash for something he wanted, got messed about and got something he didn't want! Give this guy his money back!
This is stupid bornwithawoodensp paid cash for something he wanted, got messed about and got something he didn't want! Give this guy his money back!
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Gone Thanks, by wizzy on Apr 29, 2011 23:49:54 GMT 1, Bang it on ebay, it will probably make a bit of profit!.
Bang it on ebay, it will probably make a bit of profit!.
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Trevorm
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Gone Thanks, by Trevorm on Apr 29, 2011 23:53:56 GMT 1, 's right sick it on ebay to finish late on a Saturday or Sunday night - and I'll probably buy it...hic
's right sick it on ebay to finish late on a Saturday or Sunday night - and I'll probably buy it...hic
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Damien
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Gone Thanks, by Damien on Apr 29, 2011 23:56:28 GMT 1, but if anyone tries to search cartrain on ebay it changes to curtain, people might not find it
but if anyone tries to search cartrain on ebay it changes to curtain, people might not find it
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Shoeless
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Gone Thanks, by Shoeless on Apr 30, 2011 0:01:14 GMT 1, but if anyone tries to search cartrain on ebay it changes to curtain, people might not find it
*NOT BANKSY, DFACE, MBW* seems to be standard now
but if anyone tries to search cartrain on ebay it changes to curtain, people might not find it *NOT BANKSY, DFACE, MBW* seems to be standard now
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.dappy
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Francis
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Gone Thanks, by Francis on Apr 30, 2011 0:09:22 GMT 1, maybe you should start a poll on how the situation should have been resolved and whatever the majority result is, they will have to do it for you
maybe you should start a poll on how the situation should have been resolved and whatever the majority result is, they will have to do it for you
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misterx
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Gone Thanks, by misterx on Apr 30, 2011 0:59:14 GMT 1, spoon didnt get what he paid for. It really is that simple.
Instant refund was the only decent thing to do....not try and butter him up with freebies in order to keep his cash...!!
spoon didnt get what he paid for. It really is that simple.
Instant refund was the only decent thing to do....not try and butter him up with freebies in order to keep his cash...!!
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