Depends how big the list is?.
Although I understand where your coming from.
A primary dealer such as Elms would surely rather make a little than potentially lose out on a lot in the long run.
Obviously I'm wrong.

Elms didn't help as they don't sell secondary at all.

Italian gallery did try to help and were actually extremely helpful and professional to deal with.

US gallery was offered 2 pieces (not 5 as you stated above, so you're playing detective again and getting your facts wrong). They stopped responding after about 7 emails and 3 or 4 phone calls.

AMB, Again amazing works and good luck with the sale, I almost feel like you should repost them here as your thread has now been hit so hard with discussion and not with inquiries or so on about the physical sale of the art, but more the ethics of selling the art.

I will say it again once you pay your hard earned money for it does not matter what you do with it, weather you buy 5 Parlas thinking I will sell 2 down the road and they will offset the cost of the other 3 or if something has come up and you need funds.I dont see how either of those reasons makes you any worse of a person then someone who possible bought two KAWS prints to sell one, either way someone missed out on something regardless of the value.As far as selling your items god bless Myself being in a position where me and my wife and making a new choice I also have had to part with two works one Parla work and I feel bad because I will miss the works , but I dont feel bad because I feel I offended the artist or anything like that.

Also I would like to point out I can verify from another board where I saw these posted that only 2 of the 5 were being offered up as well. And for someone to say it cheapens the work to say pick any 2 of the 5 how so if all 5 are amazing works maybe they are like children he doesnt love one more then the other.

GOOD LUCK WITH THE SALE

my eyeeeeeesssss!
jesus christ, those pics gave me eye cancer

Arty if you are so concerned about the works fork up the cash and rescue them from AMB the horrible person he is, you could be a regular prince charming with that move. ( AMB I of course do think you are a horrible person and that part of the comment was made in jest. )

DAM YOU JB..... I got it correct in the previous post just was doing two things at once....

So why "can't"galleries buy back art from the artists represent?

I don't know about that. I think they are missing a trick or two

Short term blinkered thinking, these guys are meant to be marketeers.

Though good if its a get rich, and get out fast kinda thing I suppose

I don't know about that. I think they should still offer it. Even if they offer 40% of purchase cost, the customer then has the choice. Its got to be better than just closing the door on the customer, and letting ebay take over secondary sales.


Kinda depressing really, when you think both the artists and buyers of the works are both being hung out to dry.

Anyhow back to the land of naivety

Yeah excellent !!! hasn't been a good thread torpedoing round here for a long time. FFS

One interesting thing has come out of this for me and that's the gallery paradox. I am amazed how some people hold galleries with such high esteem. This is really fu-ked up. Someone has really been chowing down on their BS "into the hands of collectors" "custodians of art" "dealing directly" "not for public display" "not for resale". Can we not see that their rhetoric only serves the purpose of the gallery / artist. Not the poor c-unt who's laying down their hard earned cash.

supply and demand - make it hard get hold of something by making it difficult to sell.

Of course the gallery doesn't want a secondary market ... why? because it in direct competition. They play the game cos sometimes this market drives up prices.



WOW ! I was only meant to say you're all idiots and they I go ranting.

idiots

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The cold fact is that galleries are out to make money for the galleries. The artist is out to make money for the artist. A secondary sale doesn't benefit either the gallery or the artist. They don't make money off of it. They possibly lose a future primary sale. They can't control the supply. They can't control the price of the secondary sale. By "placing" artworks (horrible, self-serving term) they sell to people who hopefully won't resell thus keeping the supply entirely in the hands of the gallery and artist.

Another cold fact is that not all galleries 'support' their artists by handling secondary sales. They should if they're truly interested in protecting the career of their artist. Seems Bryce Wolkowitz is this way based on a prior post. And this seems to be moreso with urban/street artists. I know from other collectors and personal experience that with Faile, both LAZ and Perry Rubenstein and Faile have both passed on some nice and easily sellable pieces. Why? It's all about the money to them. Generally 10% is the standard commission for a gallery on a resale. A gallery or artist would rather spend their time selling a primary piece where they get 40%-60%. Seems galleries and artists are only interested in 'protecting' their artists insofar as it will net them a good profit.

Jose Parla in particular seems to be making a special effort to protect his prices. KAWS as well. Even with book signings they only sign to a person's name to prevent secondary sales. For a book! Shepard Fairey is making people sign a contract stating they won't resell for 3 years after purchase. These artists are thinking about their bottom line first, collector second.

In the end what matters is not the collector who pays for the artwork. What matters is the money. Galleries and artists are free to play the market as they choose. But so should the people who actually pay money for the artworks. They shouldn't have to explain themselves. Or fear they're going to be put on a blacklist. And galleries (and artists) shouldn't be seen as giving you a special "opportunity" when you're "allowed" to buy something. Galleries aren't "placing" they're selling no matter how they try to spin it. If galleries and the artists themselves are so concerned about the artist's career they should put their money up and buy these Parlas. At the very least consign them even if it's not the usual profit they're used to.

Unfortunately if you want a Parla at primary you're going to have to jump through the hoops. Let's face it there are many people willing to pay the money and suck it up. And you'll probably feel special once a piece has been bestowed upon you. But let's not kid ourselves any longer. Jose is out to get paid. His galleries are out to make money off of you. And once they have your cash you're on your own.