mouser
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by mouser on Oct 24, 2011 3:32:55 GMT 1, We / they need the VIP's to feed the interest and the hype Don't get what you mean - how does doing VIP specials generate interest/hype? Does Banksy even need to? Banksy doing VIP specials is a joke - the guy claims to be a street artist so why pander to the rich? Banksy/POW have really lost their way over the last few years imo. Used to be fun collecting Banksy's but now if you're not a VIP, you have to sleep on piss ridden streets in the freezing cold to even get a chance to buy his lordships prints.
A1 brother. Was 100% supportive of POW back in the day, the money arrived and the rules changed. I wonder if the "black list" still exists?
We / they need the VIP's to feed the interest and the hype Don't get what you mean - how does doing VIP specials generate interest/hype? Does Banksy even need to? Banksy doing VIP specials is a joke - the guy claims to be a street artist so why pander to the rich? Banksy/POW have really lost their way over the last few years imo. Used to be fun collecting Banksy's but now if you're not a VIP, you have to sleep on piss ridden streets in the freezing cold to even get a chance to buy his lordships prints. A1 brother. Was 100% supportive of POW back in the day, the money arrived and the rules changed. I wonder if the "black list" still exists? |
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jesustheba
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by jesustheba on Oct 24, 2011 10:32:51 GMT 1, We / they need the VIP's to feed the interest and the hype Don't get what you mean - how does doing VIP specials generate interest/hype? Does Banksy even need to? Banksy doing VIP specials is a joke - the guy claims to be a street artist so why pander to the rich? Banksy/POW have really lost their way over the last few years imo. Used to be fun collecting Banksy's but now if you're not a VIP, you have to sleep on piss ridden streets in the freezing cold to even get a chance to buy his lordships prints.
well said that man
We / they need the VIP's to feed the interest and the hype Don't get what you mean - how does doing VIP specials generate interest/hype? Does Banksy even need to? Banksy doing VIP specials is a joke - the guy claims to be a street artist so why pander to the rich? Banksy/POW have really lost their way over the last few years imo. Used to be fun collecting Banksy's but now if you're not a VIP, you have to sleep on piss ridden streets in the freezing cold to even get a chance to buy his lordships prints. well said that man |
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motor
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by motor on Oct 24, 2011 14:13:03 GMT 1, Don't get what you mean - how does doing VIP specials generate interest/hype? Does Banksy even need to? Banksy doing VIP specials is a joke - the guy claims to be a street artist so why pander to the rich? Banksy/POW have really lost their way over the last few years imo. Used to be fun collecting Banksy's but now if you're not a VIP, you have to sleep on piss ridden streets in the freezing cold to even get a chance to buy his lordships prints.
Yeah, what a joke that Banksy still offers people a chance to buy his prints for a fraction of their market price (6-7 times cheaper).
Sorry but who's forcing who to sleep on the piss ridden street?
And wasn't there an online lottery release as well?
Don't get what you mean - how does doing VIP specials generate interest/hype? Does Banksy even need to? Banksy doing VIP specials is a joke - the guy claims to be a street artist so why pander to the rich? Banksy/POW have really lost their way over the last few years imo. Used to be fun collecting Banksy's but now if you're not a VIP, you have to sleep on piss ridden streets in the freezing cold to even get a chance to buy his lordships prints. Yeah, what a joke that Banksy still offers people a chance to buy his prints for a fraction of their market price (6-7 times cheaper). Sorry but who's forcing who to sleep on the piss ridden street? And wasn't there an online lottery release as well? |
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nrgball
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by nrgball on Oct 24, 2011 14:28:01 GMT 1, [/quote]
Yeah, what a joke that Banksy still offers people a chance to buy his prints for a fraction of their market price (6-7 times cheaper).
Sorry but who's forcing who to sleep on the piss ridden street?
And wasn't there an online lottery release as well?
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Well said. As a fan, I personally am happy that Banksy has made it as bid as he has. Now he just plays a little bit by the buyers rules than he used to.
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Yeah, what a joke that Banksy still offers people a chance to buy his prints for a fraction of their market price (6-7 times cheaper).
Sorry but who's forcing who to sleep on the piss ridden street?
And wasn't there an online lottery release as well?
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Well said. As a fan, I personally am happy that Banksy has made it as bid as he has. Now he just plays a little bit by the buyers rules than he used to.
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chambres
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by chambres on Oct 24, 2011 15:40:09 GMT 1, An interesting thread this, I can see both sides of the coin and as someone said its up the the individual if they want to share it or not. The fact we're discussing "VIP" is exactly the reason POW want it. Retaining public interest over the long term is a subtle and difficult PR challenge and keeping things just out of reach keeps us paying attention to their every move IMHO.
For any VIP's out there who have a gallery's worth at home that they like to keep off the internet...If you fancy opening your doors to share a glimpse with someone who just wants to appreciate it (no cameras of course!), Drop me a PM to declare your drink of choice and I'll pop round  Very much appreciated!
PS - Gary is a great guy in my experience, nothing but time and respect for the man. We all make mistakes sometimes, lets not be too harsh.
An interesting thread this, I can see both sides of the coin and as someone said its up the the individual if they want to share it or not. The fact we're discussing "VIP" is exactly the reason POW want it. Retaining public interest over the long term is a subtle and difficult PR challenge and keeping things just out of reach keeps us paying attention to their every move IMHO. For any VIP's out there who have a gallery's worth at home that they like to keep off the internet...If you fancy opening your doors to share a glimpse with someone who just wants to appreciate it (no cameras of course!), Drop me a PM to declare your drink of choice and I'll pop round Very much appreciated! PS - Gary is a great guy in my experience, nothing but time and respect for the man. We all make mistakes sometimes, lets not be too harsh. |
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jesustheba
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by jesustheba on Oct 24, 2011 16:41:14 GMT 1, [/quote]Yeah, what a joke that Banksy still offers people a chance to buy his prints for a fraction of their market price (6-7 times cheaper). Sorry but who's forcing who to sleep on the piss ridden street? And wasn't there an online lottery release as well? Well said. As a fan, I personally am happy that Banksy has made it as bid as he has. Now he just plays a little bit by the buyers rules than he used to.
Not sure i understood the bottom bit but i agree its great Banksy sells his prints so cheap however this is my list of people who gets this amazing chance in order of chance
1 Very rich VIPs
2 Friends and family of POW who get the tip off
3 Friends of number 2
4 Thugs with dogs and lots of big friends
5 Lucky ones who live in London
6 Lucky few who can drop their whole lifes to spend a night on the streets on London for a slim chance of a print
7 Lottery
8 Me 
my opinion of course but based on some fact
[/quote] Yeah, what a joke that Banksy still offers people a chance to buy his prints for a fraction of their market price (6-7 times cheaper). Sorry but who's forcing who to sleep on the piss ridden street? And wasn't there an online lottery release as well? Well said. As a fan, I personally am happy that Banksy has made it as bid as he has. Now he just plays a little bit by the buyers rules than he used to. Not sure i understood the bottom bit but i agree its great Banksy sells his prints so cheap however this is my list of people who gets this amazing chance in order of chance 1 Very rich VIPs 2 Friends and family of POW who get the tip off 3 Friends of number 2 4 Thugs with dogs and lots of big friends 5 Lucky ones who live in London 6 Lucky few who can drop their whole lifes to spend a night on the streets on London for a slim chance of a print 7 Lottery 8 Me my opinion of course but based on some fact |
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klyde
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by klyde on Oct 24, 2011 16:54:35 GMT 1, Real fans buy the reproduction prints from the West Country Prince for ยฃ55.
There, I said it.
Real fans buy the reproduction prints from the West Country Prince for ยฃ55. There, I said it. |
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by fingerz on Oct 24, 2011 16:57:04 GMT 1, Real fans buy the reproduction prints from the West Country Prince for ยฃ55. There, I said it.
lol ...
Real fans buy the reproduction prints from the West Country Prince for ยฃ55. There, I said it. lol ... |
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hupster
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by hupster on Oct 24, 2011 16:59:13 GMT 1, Yeah, what a joke that Banksy still offers people a chance to buy his prints for a fraction of their market price (6-7 times cheaper). Sorry but who's forcing who to sleep on the piss ridden street? And wasn't there an online lottery release as well? Well said. As a fan, I personally am happy that Banksy has made it as bid as he has. Now he just plays a little bit by the buyers rules than he used to.
Not sure i understood the bottom bit but i agree its great Banksy sells his prints so cheap however this is my list of people who gets this amazing chance in order of chance
1 Very rich VIPs
2 Friends and family of POW who get the tip off
3 Friends of number 2
4 Thugs with dogs and lots of big friends
5 Lucky ones who live in London
6 Lucky few who can drop their whole lifes to spend a night on the streets on London for a slim chance of a print
7 Lottery
8 Me
my opinion of course but based on some fact[/quote]
I agree with some but no all. A larger edition say 1000 would help and different locations to buy around the country but that still does not satisfy others from abroad. He has to make a living and pay his staff somehow. There is still a chance of getting one even now just like the national lottery but you have to be in it to win it as the saying goes. Everyone one has their own feelings and you will never cover all bases with this kind of demand. The petrol bomb release went fine in my eyes. I arrived at 7am and worked away with mine at 10.30am. It was well known the date and time so maybe releasing some in other cities may be the answer...
Who knows........
Yeah, what a joke that Banksy still offers people a chance to buy his prints for a fraction of their market price (6-7 times cheaper). Sorry but who's forcing who to sleep on the piss ridden street? And wasn't there an online lottery release as well? Well said. As a fan, I personally am happy that Banksy has made it as bid as he has. Now he just plays a little bit by the buyers rules than he used to. Not sure i understood the bottom bit but i agree its great Banksy sells his prints so cheap however this is my list of people who gets this amazing chance in order of chance 1 Very rich VIPs 2 Friends and family of POW who get the tip off 3 Friends of number 2 4 Thugs with dogs and lots of big friends 5 Lucky ones who live in London 6 Lucky few who can drop their whole lifes to spend a night on the streets on London for a slim chance of a print 7 Lottery 8 Me my opinion of course but based on some fact[/quote] I agree with some but no all. A larger edition say 1000 would help and different locations to buy around the country but that still does not satisfy others from abroad. He has to make a living and pay his staff somehow. There is still a chance of getting one even now just like the national lottery but you have to be in it to win it as the saying goes. Everyone one has their own feelings and you will never cover all bases with this kind of demand. The petrol bomb release went fine in my eyes. I arrived at 7am and worked away with mine at 10.30am. It was well known the date and time so maybe releasing some in other cities may be the answer... Who knows........ |
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by boatyy on Oct 24, 2011 17:14:31 GMT 1, the only way for this to work is if he releases free art - that should settle it all...
but wait, come to think of it, he does that - he puts it on the street - all across the globe and often, too...
hmmmmm... and, then sells stuff at significantly below market levels...
and then, gives to charity...
and, seems from time to time, he remembers his friends and family...
the guy clearly just does not do enough...
the only way for this to work is if he releases free art - that should settle it all...
but wait, come to think of it, he does that - he puts it on the street - all across the globe and often, too...
hmmmmm... and, then sells stuff at significantly below market levels...
and then, gives to charity...
and, seems from time to time, he remembers his friends and family...
the guy clearly just does not do enough...
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jesustheba
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by jesustheba on Oct 24, 2011 17:18:25 GMT 1, [/quote]
I agree with some but no all. A larger edition say 1000 would help and different locations to buy around the country but that still does not satisfy others from abroad. He has to make a living and pay his staff somehow. There is still a chance of getting one even now just like the national lottery but you have to be in it to win it as the saying goes. Everyone one has their own feelings and you will never cover all bases with this kind of demand. The petrol bomb release went fine in my eyes. I arrived at 7am and worked away with mine at 10.30am. It was well known the date and time so maybe releasing some in other cities may be the answer...
Who knows........[/quote]
For me the VLH was the best idea
you had to get off your arse to buy tickets which were limited to 20 or something like that, you had a couple of days to get there and they raised some cash for charity
its not ideal buts it better imo
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I agree with some but no all. A larger edition say 1000 would help and different locations to buy around the country but that still does not satisfy others from abroad. He has to make a living and pay his staff somehow. There is still a chance of getting one even now just like the national lottery but you have to be in it to win it as the saying goes. Everyone one has their own feelings and you will never cover all bases with this kind of demand. The petrol bomb release went fine in my eyes. I arrived at 7am and worked away with mine at 10.30am. It was well known the date and time so maybe releasing some in other cities may be the answer...
Who knows........[/quote]
For me the VLH was the best idea
you had to get off your arse to buy tickets which were limited to 20 or something like that, you had a couple of days to get there and they raised some cash for charity
its not ideal buts it better imo
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by hunter007 on Oct 24, 2011 17:26:05 GMT 1, iTS LIFE PEOPLE , NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE EQUAL Plus it would be boring if it was and everyone stood the same chance to purchase these items, Im sure it would make them less sought after aswell,
My suggestions would be move to London ,and befriend Pow staff buy a big dog, and big friends etc etc etc
iTS LIFE PEOPLE , NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE EQUAL Plus it would be boring if it was and everyone stood the same chance to purchase these items, Im sure it would make them less sought after aswell,
My suggestions would be move to London ,and befriend Pow staff buy a big dog, and big friends etc etc etc
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by Mister Frame Man on Oct 24, 2011 21:58:31 GMT 1, This whole episode has left me with so many questions, so many opinions and no doubt that things have changed so so much since I saw my first banksy barcode come through my shop door.
Certainly not for the better as I feel that I am best to just keep quiet!
This whole episode has left me with so many questions, so many opinions and no doubt that things have changed so so much since I saw my first banksy barcode come through my shop door.
Certainly not for the better as I feel that I am best to just keep quiet!
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redfred
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by redfred on Oct 24, 2011 22:14:47 GMT 1, This whole episode has left me with so many questions, so many opinions and no doubt that things have changed so so much since I saw my first banksy barcode come through my shop door. Certainly not for the better as I feel that I am best to just keep quiet!
Just console yourself that in a few short weeks the madness will start all over again and we will all (well most of us ) have even more to winge about.
This whole episode has left me with so many questions, so many opinions and no doubt that things have changed so so much since I saw my first banksy barcode come through my shop door. Certainly not for the better as I feel that I am best to just keep quiet! Just console yourself that in a few short weeks the madness will start all over again and we will all (well most of us ) have even more to winge about. |
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danmuppet
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by danmuppet on Oct 25, 2011 10:18:21 GMT 1, We will all be whinging as I don't think there will be a print release this year!
We will all be whinging as I don't think there will be a print release this year!
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by gironawatch on Oct 25, 2011 10:30:08 GMT 1, this year print only for the VIP!!
this year print only for the VIP!!
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by fingerz on Oct 25, 2011 10:37:59 GMT 1, of course there'll be a banksy release this year other wise what will the flippers flip
of course there'll be a banksy release this year other wise what will the flippers flip
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johnnyh
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by johnnyh on Nov 9, 2011 18:46:38 GMT 1, Let's fair here if he gives 500 away free some one on here will be complaining possibly me as he will not give any away in Hong Kong.
So as much as it hurts and we all wan one etc. Think we should chill a bit as both he and POW do there best. Does not always work etc but the prices and the lottery have been fair. Understand toque was bad last time. But they said mistake so fair enough.
Every artist does AP's or rarities. He gives them to mates family or people who bought originals or who ever he likes. To be honest I would do the same. He does not auction them to the highest bidder etc unless it's for charity!!! Which in my book is pretty sound not that I will get one.
But jeez he does take a lot of s@$t on here for not ripping people off. Do not blame him for the flipping market there are an awful lot of those prints that are not flipped.
Just my humble opinion -even though not got a lottery one ever but I do agree with the concepts it is pretty fair
Let's fair here if he gives 500 away free some one on here will be complaining possibly me as he will not give any away in Hong Kong.
So as much as it hurts and we all wan one etc. Think we should chill a bit as both he and POW do there best. Does not always work etc but the prices and the lottery have been fair. Understand toque was bad last time. But they said mistake so fair enough.
Every artist does AP's or rarities. He gives them to mates family or people who bought originals or who ever he likes. To be honest I would do the same. He does not auction them to the highest bidder etc unless it's for charity!!! Which in my book is pretty sound not that I will get one.
But jeez he does take a lot of s@$t on here for not ripping people off. Do not blame him for the flipping market there are an awful lot of those prints that are not flipped.
Just my humble opinion -even though not got a lottery one ever but I do agree with the concepts it is pretty fair
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silvermyn
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by silvermyn on Nov 10, 2011 16:13:03 GMT 1, Well put Johnny.
Well put Johnny.
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Very much appreciated!
