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Dolk Che Canvas, by saint on Dec 28, 2011 16:36:35 GMT 1, His work does sell very well, I think that says a lot.
Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend?
It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it and the interest from people in Norway made prices go up....
His work does sell very well, I think that says a lot. Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend? It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it and the interest from people in Norway made prices go up.... |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by sfinks on Dec 28, 2011 16:41:14 GMT 1, I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable.
Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest".
I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable.
Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest".
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Dolk Che Canvas, by sfinks on Dec 28, 2011 16:44:40 GMT 1, I'm thinking of selling due to me needing the money, how much do you reckon its worth? Its a: 1/1, 100 x 70cm, receipt of purchase..
Have a potential buyer for you, will take it in PM from here.
I'm thinking of selling due to me needing the money, how much do you reckon its worth? Its a: 1/1, 100 x 70cm, receipt of purchase.. Have a potential buyer for you, will take it in PM from here. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by saint on Dec 28, 2011 17:05:01 GMT 1, I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable. Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest".
Again each to their own, but i think those comparing dolk to banksy arent really aware that their elbow and ass look different...
Dolk is much more similar to Blek IMO, its about images, not messages. (in the main part, obviously some of his work has messages, as does Bleks).
IMO of course, just my thoughts, and as mentioned i like some of dolks work, certainly zooicide has a strong message.
I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable. Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest". Again each to their own, but i think those comparing dolk to banksy arent really aware that their elbow and ass look different... Dolk is much more similar to Blek IMO, its about images, not messages. (in the main part, obviously some of his work has messages, as does Bleks). IMO of course, just my thoughts, and as mentioned i like some of dolks work, certainly zooicide has a strong message. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by pelle on Dec 28, 2011 17:10:21 GMT 1, Again each to their own, but i think those comparing dolk to banksy arent really aware that their elbow and ass look different... Dolk is much more similar to Blek IMO, its about images, not messages. (in the main part, obviously some of his work has messages, as does Bleks). IMO of course, just my thoughts, and as mentioned i like some of dolks work, certainly zooicide has a strong message.
I was with you until the last part. What "strong message" do you find in zooicide? To me it just looks like another tired visual pun involving a banana.
Again each to their own, but i think those comparing dolk to banksy arent really aware that their elbow and ass look different... Dolk is much more similar to Blek IMO, its about images, not messages. (in the main part, obviously some of his work has messages, as does Bleks). IMO of course, just my thoughts, and as mentioned i like some of dolks work, certainly zooicide has a strong message. I was with you until the last part. What "strong message" do you find in zooicide? To me it just looks like another tired visual pun involving a banana. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by saint on Dec 28, 2011 17:12:56 GMT 1, to me its about the plight of animals in captivity dude, maybe not to others, but to me it suggests how captivity, zoo's and similar are destroying our natural world and taking our animals away from where they should be....
Just my 2c on it of course....
to me its about the plight of animals in captivity dude, maybe not to others, but to me it suggests how captivity, zoo's and similar are destroying our natural world and taking our animals away from where they should be....
Just my 2c on it of course....
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Dolk Che Canvas, by soundwavebeatbox on Dec 28, 2011 17:17:50 GMT 1, have last mona and it looks brillant framed. will post some pics in the next few weeks.
also have shrnk was looking for that one everyday for about 8 months i also think thats a brillant print, but like you said each to there own. i think Dolk is a fantastic artist and every one will be surprised in a few years at how well hes doing but thats my opinon.
what do you reckon about eelus nesbaw. on verge of getting one.
cheers mate
have last mona and it looks brillant framed. will post some pics in the next few weeks.
also have shrnk was looking for that one everyday for about 8 months i also think thats a brillant print, but like you said each to there own. i think Dolk is a fantastic artist and every one will be surprised in a few years at how well hes doing but thats my opinon.
what do you reckon about eelus nesbaw. on verge of getting one.
cheers mate
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Dolk Che Canvas, by pelle on Dec 28, 2011 17:17:54 GMT 1, to me its about the plight of animals in captivity dude, maybe not to others, but to me it suggests how captivity, zoo's and similar are destroying our natural world and taking our animals away from where they should be.... Just my 2c on it of course....
ok, but how can you tell from the image that the chimp is in captivity?
Edit: Oh, I guess it is in the title?
to me its about the plight of animals in captivity dude, maybe not to others, but to me it suggests how captivity, zoo's and similar are destroying our natural world and taking our animals away from where they should be.... Just my 2c on it of course.... ok, but how can you tell from the image that the chimp is in captivity? Edit: Oh, I guess it is in the title? |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by saint on Dec 28, 2011 17:22:16 GMT 1, i cant matey, just my thoughts when i look at it....
edit - yeah the title gives it away! still, he looks sad, like animals do in rubbish zoos.
Another edit - no disrespect to zoo's, or those that work in them, unless you are a rubbish zoo/work in a rubbish zoo, in which case lots of disrespect meant, sort it out. Enrichment programs etc.
i cant matey, just my thoughts when i look at it....
edit - yeah the title gives it away! still, he looks sad, like animals do in rubbish zoos.
Another edit - no disrespect to zoo's, or those that work in them, unless you are a rubbish zoo/work in a rubbish zoo, in which case lots of disrespect meant, sort it out. Enrichment programs etc.
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Dolk Che Canvas, by soundwavebeatbox on Dec 28, 2011 17:26:04 GMT 1, OI I WORK IN A ZOO
haha jokes  forts on eelus not everythings so black and white.
OI I WORK IN A ZOO haha jokes forts on eelus not everythings so black and white. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by sfinks on Dec 28, 2011 17:27:40 GMT 1, This is what i love about clean stencil street art. Its not a 100% clear statement, its up for personal opinions and can be meaningful in many directions.
One of my favorite replicates these days is Greece girl with Euro
www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=271405012916705&set=pu.127611693962705&type=1&theater
This is what i love about clean stencil street art. Its not a 100% clear statement, its up for personal opinions and can be meaningful in many directions. One of my favorite replicates these days is Greece girl with Euro www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=271405012916705&set=pu.127611693962705&type=1&theater |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by saint on Dec 28, 2011 17:31:44 GMT 1, OI I WORK IN A ZOO haha jokes forts on eelus not everythings so black and white.
I actually worked in woburn safari park in the monkey enclosure in my youth, they have quite a good enrichment program.... or they did when i was there anyways, and i'm sure its a lot better now....
Buy what you like and dont let other people influence what you buy Cal, best advise i can give you matey...
OI I WORK IN A ZOO haha jokes forts on eelus not everythings so black and white. I actually worked in woburn safari park in the monkey enclosure in my youth, they have quite a good enrichment program.... or they did when i was there anyways, and i'm sure its a lot better now.... Buy what you like and dont let other people influence what you buy Cal, best advise i can give you matey... |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by Daniel Silk on Dec 28, 2011 17:32:37 GMT 1, Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend? It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it
Is that about Banksy or Dolk?
Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend? It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it Is that about Banksy or Dolk? |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by freeview on Dec 28, 2011 17:35:02 GMT 1, Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend? It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it Is that about Banksy or Dolk?
or dran
Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend? It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it Is that about Banksy or Dolk? or dran |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 18:35:43 GMT 1, Dolks work is just going to keep going up, my opinion but i really do thnk in 5 years time some of hs classic good stuff will be worth alot. good luck with the sale
**Beat Box Disclaimer - I have bought a load of his stuff at the top end price point and I desperately hope I am I right, otherwise I have been stuffed!
***Little Hugh Disclaimer - I am not buying this "price hike", especially as I am looking for a Dolk Police line and don't want to spend silly money of hyped prices!!
Dolks work is just going to keep going up, my opinion but i really do thnk in 5 years time some of hs classic good stuff will be worth alot. good luck with the sale **Beat Box Disclaimer - I have bought a load of his stuff at the top end price point and I desperately hope I am I right, otherwise I have been stuffed! ***Little Hugh Disclaimer - I am not buying this "price hike", especially as I am looking for a Dolk Police line and don't want to spend silly money of hyped prices!! |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by craigf on Dec 28, 2011 18:49:28 GMT 1, still need Zooicide. would swap my mr jago canvas for zoocide. i want it that bad. cheers
If I hadn't sold my zooicide a while back I'd be all over this if it's a serious offer.
still need Zooicide. would swap my mr jago canvas for zoocide. i want it that bad. cheers If I hadn't sold my zooicide a while back I'd be all over this if it's a serious offer. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by soundwavebeatbox on Dec 28, 2011 19:06:02 GMT 1, yeah i sooo want one but i have agread now to swap my mr jago for eelus not everythings so black and white.
im after banksy nola now whats the price for an unsgned one of these?
also are they hard to get hold off?
cheers
yeah i sooo want one but i have agread now to swap my mr jago for eelus not everythings so black and white.
im after banksy nola now whats the price for an unsgned one of these?
also are they hard to get hold off?
cheers
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Dolk Che Canvas, by maumau93 on Dec 28, 2011 19:12:10 GMT 1, made a bit of a loss on that then aint ya...
made a bit of a loss on that then aint ya...
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Dolk Che Canvas, by saint on Dec 28, 2011 19:16:17 GMT 1, Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend? It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it Is that about Banksy or Dolk?
Fair enough!
If after a fair few years his work is still selling at high prices, ala banksy, i will happily eat my words and apologise to all..... Until then it remains in my eyes not a valid commentary on the quality of his work, but is more to do with the hype atm. Again, i do like some of dolks work, but it has happened before..... (See Nick Walker, Blek, Beejoir etc).
EDIT - i like beejoir, blek and nick walkers work, no disrespect to any of them, all key figures in the scene IMO, just talking price fluctuation due to hype.
Again, this is just my opinion and i will happily be proved wrong.
Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend? It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it Is that about Banksy or Dolk? Fair enough! If after a fair few years his work is still selling at high prices, ala banksy, i will happily eat my words and apologise to all..... Until then it remains in my eyes not a valid commentary on the quality of his work, but is more to do with the hype atm. Again, i do like some of dolks work, but it has happened before..... (See Nick Walker, Blek, Beejoir etc). EDIT - i like beejoir, blek and nick walkers work, no disrespect to any of them, all key figures in the scene IMO, just talking price fluctuation due to hype. Again, this is just my opinion and i will happily be proved wrong. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by bernard on Dec 28, 2011 19:17:42 GMT 1,
For this i would say that 1k is too much imo imo imo, wouldnt pay more than 500 meself.
Word.
For this i would say that 1k is too much imo imo imo, wouldnt pay more than 500 meself. Word. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by boatyyy on Dec 28, 2011 19:23:42 GMT 1, i have an original dolk prison painter and i'll try to describe some reactions received from visitors (none who are into art collecting, of any sort - and would never pay a cent for any of it):
- from the guy who was repairing and painting the walls in a room of my home: "oh my god, that is a beautiful painting; that's me; wow..." - i gather he saw a wall painter;
- a good friend, who just came out of prison, came to visit: "that's cool, but not sure about the stripes; - not sure you should put that there for people to see when they come over..."- he was advising me on location (really nice guy - hope he stays out of trouble)...
-my elderly uncle was over to dinner and it was sitting on the mantle in the dining room: "tell that guy in that picture there's no smoking in here..." - simply because the hand was near the sidepocket (i whispered to his wife, my aunt, that his glasses def needed checking...)
-me myself, an idiot art buyer, when i first saw it - it took me one second to decide (but that's how i decide on art generally anyways) - i saw the prisons we create for ourselves (at the time of purchase, i was in a mental zone where i was questioning why i had put myself in a situation i created...and i had a couple of bucks to burn)
now, what the artist intended - may never know... this "art" stuff cracks me up...
(except for the piece that Banksy now has at the Walker gallery - count myself blessed to be in an age of when it was created - one of the greatest pieces of art, ever...)
true story... sorry, i'm not sure why i wrote this in this thread...
i have an original dolk prison painter and i'll try to describe some reactions received from visitors (none who are into art collecting, of any sort - and would never pay a cent for any of it):
- from the guy who was repairing and painting the walls in a room of my home: "oh my god, that is a beautiful painting; that's me; wow..." - i gather he saw a wall painter;
- a good friend, who just came out of prison, came to visit: "that's cool, but not sure about the stripes; - not sure you should put that there for people to see when they come over..."- he was advising me on location (really nice guy - hope he stays out of trouble)...
-my elderly uncle was over to dinner and it was sitting on the mantle in the dining room: "tell that guy in that picture there's no smoking in here..." - simply because the hand was near the sidepocket (i whispered to his wife, my aunt, that his glasses def needed checking...)
-me myself, an idiot art buyer, when i first saw it - it took me one second to decide (but that's how i decide on art generally anyways) - i saw the prisons we create for ourselves (at the time of purchase, i was in a mental zone where i was questioning why i had put myself in a situation i created...and i had a couple of bucks to burn)
now, what the artist intended - may never know... this "art" stuff cracks me up...
(except for the piece that Banksy now has at the Walker gallery - count myself blessed to be in an age of when it was created - one of the greatest pieces of art, ever...)
true story... sorry, i'm not sure why i wrote this in this thread...
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Dolk Che Canvas, by soundwavebeatbox on Dec 28, 2011 19:28:39 GMT 1, haha enjoyed reading that.
yeah i have eelus is still worth ยฃ800 thou so only ยฃ75 not to bad
haha enjoyed reading that.
yeah i have eelus is still worth ยฃ800 thou so only ยฃ75 not to bad
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Dolk Che Canvas, by fingerz on Dec 28, 2011 19:34:59 GMT 1, it's ok boatyyy , i'll get your coat .... 
it's ok boatyyy , i'll get your coat .... |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by Harveyn on Dec 28, 2011 20:17:33 GMT 1, I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable. Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest".
One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on.
I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable. Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest". One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by sfinks on Dec 28, 2011 20:31:12 GMT 1, I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable. Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest". One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on.
Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Blek Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons.
But in Norway Dolk is considered as a big one obviously.
But what do we measure "big" in?
Sale, price, publicity, demand?
Keep in mind, the artists in your list are all americans or based in the US, so they are bigger there then in EU. Same with EU art vs US i guess.
I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable. Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest". One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on. Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Blek Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons. But in Norway Dolk is considered as a big one obviously. But what do we measure "big" in? Sale, price, publicity, demand? Keep in mind, the artists in your list are all americans or based in the US, so they are bigger there then in EU. Same with EU art vs US i guess. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by rottenredrooster on Dec 28, 2011 21:38:54 GMT 1, Thought I'd give my two cents worth... As much as I like Dolk. I think the hype conjured up by the Norwegian press about investing money is going to come to nothing and to those who think he's the next big thing, have a look around at the other great artists blossoming.
At the end of the day Norway has the forth highest income in the world, so a large percentage have the ability over there to buy it all up adding to the hype.
If I was holding onto Dolk in vain hope that they would one day be worth, as someone put it 'a lot in five years', I would offload it right now.
Anyway just my opinion on the matter.
Thought I'd give my two cents worth... As much as I like Dolk. I think the hype conjured up by the Norwegian press about investing money is going to come to nothing and to those who think he's the next big thing, have a look around at the other great artists blossoming.
At the end of the day Norway has the forth highest income in the world, so a large percentage have the ability over there to buy it all up adding to the hype.
If I was holding onto Dolk in vain hope that they would one day be worth, as someone put it 'a lot in five years', I would offload it right now.
Anyway just my opinion on the matter.
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Dolk Che Canvas, by sfinks on Dec 28, 2011 21:57:55 GMT 1, Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons. But in Norway Dolk is considered as a big one obviously. But what do we measure "big" in? Sale, price, publicity, demand? Keep in mind, the artists in your list are all americans or based in the US, so they are bigger there then in EU. Same with EU art vs US i guess. Os Gemeos are not from or based in the US. Do you even know what you're talking about?
That was only one of them and he is from SOUTH america. So for me thats at least not EU.
Why the hostile approach? No im no expert, and no i dont know every artist.
What is your point?
Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons. But in Norway Dolk is considered as a big one obviously. But what do we measure "big" in? Sale, price, publicity, demand? Keep in mind, the artists in your list are all americans or based in the US, so they are bigger there then in EU. Same with EU art vs US i guess. Os Gemeos are not from or based in the US. Do you even know what you're talking about? That was only one of them and he is from SOUTH america. So for me thats at least not EU. Why the hostile approach? No im no expert, and no i dont know every artist. What is your point? |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by sfinks on Dec 28, 2011 22:07:54 GMT 1, Thought I'd give my two cents worth... As much as I like Dolk. I think the hype conjured up by the Norwegian press about investing money is going to come to nothing and to those who think he's the next big thing, have a look around at the other great artists blossoming. At the end of the day Norway has the forth highest income in the world, so a large percentage have the ability over there to buy it all up adding to the hype. If I was holding onto Dolk in vain hope that they would one day be worth, as someone put it 'a lot in five years', I would offload it right now. Anyway just my opinion on the matter.
Agree on everything there.
All Iโm saying is that the demand for some pieces is huge now, therefor the prices are extreme. Not saying he will be the next Banksy, only that some consider some of his pieces very attractive.
One example is that Dolk was painting his work INSIDE the walls of the world most modern prison(Halden prison) witch he was payed a huge amount for.
Nuart is arranged very near his birth town.
So i can see why he is so big in Norway, and not the rest of the world.
Thought I'd give my two cents worth... As much as I like Dolk. I think the hype conjured up by the Norwegian press about investing money is going to come to nothing and to those who think he's the next big thing, have a look around at the other great artists blossoming. At the end of the day Norway has the forth highest income in the world, so a large percentage have the ability over there to buy it all up adding to the hype. If I was holding onto Dolk in vain hope that they would one day be worth, as someone put it 'a lot in five years', I would offload it right now. Anyway just my opinion on the matter. Agree on everything there. All Iโm saying is that the demand for some pieces is huge now, therefor the prices are extreme. Not saying he will be the next Banksy, only that some consider some of his pieces very attractive. One example is that Dolk was painting his work INSIDE the walls of the world most modern prison(Halden prison) witch he was payed a huge amount for. Nuart is arranged very near his birth town. So i can see why he is so big in Norway, and not the rest of the world. |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by pelle on Dec 28, 2011 22:57:07 GMT 1, One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on. Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons.
Who is that? Another Norwegian artist?
One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on. Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons. Who is that? Another Norwegian artist? |
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Dolk Che Canvas, by sfinks on Dec 28, 2011 23:06:13 GMT 1, Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons. Who is that? Another Norwegian artist?
Hehe, no
I am very sorry for my misspell. I ment offcorse Blek Le Rat
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blek_le_Rat
Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons. Who is that? Another Norwegian artist? Hehe, no I am very sorry for my misspell. I ment offcorse Blek Le Rat en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blek_le_Rat |
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