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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by artylang on Feb 7, 2011 18:28:07 GMT 1, I just saw some setup images on www.arrestedmotion.com and I gotta say it looks like one giant disappointment. He did some really nice looking prints with a gallery I believe called Rivera and Rivera. Those got me very excited. This looks very bland. There is some force out there hyping the hell out of this guy. If this is what they had up there sleeve there will be a lot of disappointed people.
I just saw some setup images on www.arrestedmotion.com and I gotta say it looks like one giant disappointment. He did some really nice looking prints with a gallery I believe called Rivera and Rivera. Those got me very excited. This looks very bland. There is some force out there hyping the hell out of this guy. If this is what they had up there sleeve there will be a lot of disappointed people. |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by inkheads on Feb 14, 2011 1:15:22 GMT 1, any info on this show? reports say a near sell out. parla, quinones and tatscru all turned out. as many fashion celebs too.
anyone know any prices? is anything for sale still? any prints?
any info on this show? reports say a near sell out. parla, quinones and tatscru all turned out. as many fashion celebs too.
anyone know any prices? is anything for sale still? any prints?
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Baurmann Gallery on Feb 14, 2011 2:08:07 GMT 1, Sorry SILKY...didn't see you had already started a thread on the show (my apologies)...below is the one I started (which I just deleted and merged):
From deleted posting (now merged):
Though I've always been a huge fan of his work...RETNA has been killing it on another level (in my opinion) in a big way now...
In my opinion, we definitely should start expecting to see some ABSOLUTELY HUGE things from RETNA in the coming years (especially 2011)...his recent show in NYC was (from what I heard from those there) was absolutely insane to say the least.
I also heard the show was almost sold out before it even opened too, though I was not surprised at all...he has some serious backing now w/ Vladimir Restoin Roitfeld and Andy Valmorbida now being behind him and there to advise, assist and basically help his career develop further in terms of the scope/scale of the large scale global projects they are setting up and have in store...
More info on his upcoming world tour can be found here:
www.valmorbida.com/artists/retna/
Sorry SILKY...didn't see you had already started a thread on the show (my apologies)...below is the one I started (which I just deleted and merged): From deleted posting (now merged): Though I've always been a huge fan of his work...RETNA has been killing it on another level (in my opinion) in a big way now... In my opinion, we definitely should start expecting to see some ABSOLUTELY HUGE things from RETNA in the coming years (especially 2011)...his recent show in NYC was (from what I heard from those there) was absolutely insane to say the least. I also heard the show was almost sold out before it even opened too, though I was not surprised at all...he has some serious backing now w/ Vladimir Restoin Roitfeld and Andy Valmorbida now being behind him and there to advise, assist and basically help his career develop further in terms of the scope/scale of the large scale global projects they are setting up and have in store... More info on his upcoming world tour can be found here: www.valmorbida.com/artists/retna/ |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Baurmann Gallery on Feb 14, 2011 2:09:23 GMT 1, Here is also a nice time lapse (from the set-up & show):
Video Credit: FitzpatrickJoel
I am sure we will probably start to see LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of photos from the opening (to say the least) as the week progresses though...
Here is also a nice time lapse (from the set-up & show):
Video Credit: FitzpatrickJoel
I am sure we will probably start to see LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of photos from the opening (to say the least) as the week progresses though...
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by sakyamuni on Feb 14, 2011 16:42:58 GMT 1,
Modern multiples is about to release a huge print (40"x60"), HPM, low edition, should be nice but pricey.... 
Modern multiples is about to release a huge print (40"x60"), HPM, low edition, should be nice but pricey.... |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Baurmann Gallery on Feb 14, 2011 18:27:59 GMT 1, Just my opinion:
I personally thought the show looked incredible and he has some big stuff in store. I'm definitely biased towards RETNA and absolutely just love his work...but hopefully this will explain my thoughts a bit:
Though it is MUCH more complicated and complex than the subsequent breakdown...here's some insight into my thoughts on RETNA (with the disclaimer it could be expanded on GREATLY but due to time and not wanting to bore the heck out of you all w/ TONS and TONS of pages...here's the [attempted...lol] short version):
Three very generalized categories (in my opinion) are a good place to start...
What has an artist done?
What is an artist currently doing?
What is the future potential for the artist?
What has an artist done?
In terms of graffiti, RETNA (before AWR/MSK) was in LTS, a very old and respected crew in Los Angeles. He has put in his work on the streets (in a big way) and is highly respected by even many of the most hard-core graffiti artists that will probably never receive any mainstream attention (other than making the news if arrested) nor probably want it... graffiti (& where these guys were doing it @) was during a VERY dangerous and crazy time/place and there was a very real & serious risk of coming across some of the gangs, rival crews, cops, people w/ guns or just random drug addicts with nothing to lose (any of which, could have cost them their lives)...simply put, RETNA is a very old school writer from LA and just did not come out of nowhere in the graffiti world, nor some safe & easy background ether. He not only put in his work, he never stopped...it's also one thing to have the respect of the mainstream public...in my opinion, RETNA has deep respect from many graffiti artists too. Though receiving HUGE mainstream attention now, he has always been extremely respected in the graffiti world and has had a very long history in LA especially.
A very important thing to note (in my opinion): RETNA also was just not a graffiti writer..he is still pretty much a hard core writer @ heart...even if he is getting some ridiculously huge shows and backing right now...I would NEVER underestimate him to still be down to get up on the streets...
An example from just last year: during the trip for the Basel event I was posting all of those photos from him, MEAR, KOFIE & MAC...MEAR told me hilarious stories about him & RETNA bombing a small town 1 night like they were teenagers back in LA...when a true graffiti artist (like I consider MEAR without question) goes..."yeah, that dude is down to get up in a heartbeat" and not only that...is laughing about those 2 taking markers & going @such old school style...I personally have to think that is pretty awesome and funny hear...
Overall...in my opinion, RETNA is just not some artist people are trying to market and hype into a graffiti artist...I agree...graffiti and street art have sometimes (in certain circumstances in horrific ways that have many jaded and suspicious, artists included) been hyped so much (that often it's roots and integrity have been sometimes compromised so deeply...but RETNA has significant roots in graffiti...what he is doing now and goes forward with...that's a whole different matter though for sure.
Here's a range of older and newer pieces compiled on 50mm:
www.50mmlosangeles.com/artist.php?artistId=308
[part 2 coming later today...]
Just my opinion: I personally thought the show looked incredible and he has some big stuff in store. I'm definitely biased towards RETNA and absolutely just love his work...but hopefully this will explain my thoughts a bit: Though it is MUCH more complicated and complex than the subsequent breakdown...here's some insight into my thoughts on RETNA (with the disclaimer it could be expanded on GREATLY but due to time and not wanting to bore the heck out of you all w/ TONS and TONS of pages...here's the [attempted...lol] short version): Three very generalized categories (in my opinion) are a good place to start... What has an artist done? What is an artist currently doing? What is the future potential for the artist? What has an artist done? In terms of graffiti, RETNA (before AWR/MSK) was in LTS, a very old and respected crew in Los Angeles. He has put in his work on the streets (in a big way) and is highly respected by even many of the most hard-core graffiti artists that will probably never receive any mainstream attention (other than making the news if arrested) nor probably want it... graffiti (& where these guys were doing it @) was during a VERY dangerous and crazy time/place and there was a very real & serious risk of coming across some of the gangs, rival crews, cops, people w/ guns or just random drug addicts with nothing to lose (any of which, could have cost them their lives)...simply put, RETNA is a very old school writer from LA and just did not come out of nowhere in the graffiti world, nor some safe & easy background ether. He not only put in his work, he never stopped...it's also one thing to have the respect of the mainstream public...in my opinion, RETNA has deep respect from many graffiti artists too. Though receiving HUGE mainstream attention now, he has always been extremely respected in the graffiti world and has had a very long history in LA especially. A very important thing to note (in my opinion): RETNA also was just not a graffiti writer..he is still pretty much a hard core writer @ heart...even if he is getting some ridiculously huge shows and backing right now...I would NEVER underestimate him to still be down to get up on the streets... An example from just last year: during the trip for the Basel event I was posting all of those photos from him, MEAR, KOFIE & MAC...MEAR told me hilarious stories about him & RETNA bombing a small town 1 night like they were teenagers back in LA...when a true graffiti artist (like I consider MEAR without question) goes..."yeah, that dude is down to get up in a heartbeat" and not only that...is laughing about those 2 taking markers & going @such old school style...I personally have to think that is pretty awesome and funny hear... Overall...in my opinion, RETNA is just not some artist people are trying to market and hype into a graffiti artist...I agree...graffiti and street art have sometimes (in certain circumstances in horrific ways that have many jaded and suspicious, artists included) been hyped so much (that often it's roots and integrity have been sometimes compromised so deeply...but RETNA has significant roots in graffiti...what he is doing now and goes forward with...that's a whole different matter though for sure. Here's a range of older and newer pieces compiled on 50mm: www.50mmlosangeles.com/artist.php?artistId=308[part 2 coming later today...] |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by inkheads on Feb 15, 2011 17:32:55 GMT 1, you dont have to tell me... i already am on his shizzle...
you dont have to tell me... i already am on his shizzle...
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Baurmann Gallery on Feb 16, 2011 15:07:54 GMT 1, you dont have to tell me... i already am on his shizzle...
I could not agree more...sometimes the history of what some of these artists did (back before the massive popularity) is lost a bit, due to it not being documented as thoroughly as everything is now. I am very lucky to have a lot of the people who lived it telling the stories. Those are the some of the ones I try to share...
you dont have to tell me... i already am on his shizzle... I could not agree more...sometimes the history of what some of these artists did (back before the massive popularity) is lost a bit, due to it not being documented as thoroughly as everything is now. I am very lucky to have a lot of the people who lived it telling the stories. Those are the some of the ones I try to share... |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Baurmann Gallery on Feb 16, 2011 15:13:20 GMT 1, I also think it is very interesting the insight into the art world that is available now (and can be shared on a global level too)...
Just sharing my personal thoughts/experiences:
In terms of the now, this is some of the stuff that caused me to take a VERY serious & close look @ RETNA's work.
From his older street work, he has evolved his current style and progressed heavily…as murals, galleries and mediums continued to change, he evolved a style that fit perfect for large scale gallery installations & the street alike.
What that style, hard work & dedication has progressed into…I have to say I understand 100% when people like Deitch talk about seeing his work and instantly seeing something major/special. Richard Duardo was actually the person who told me before all of the major hype & attention had come around RETNA…“watch him closely…that’s an artist who has it & has big things ahead”…I also have to say, Richard could not have been more right. In addition, when I first met RETNA face to face, I saw immediately saw what others [like Richard] had been saying in terms of not only his art, but also on a personal level too…that he definitely had something that really made you go “yeah, I see BIG things for you in the future…”
It’s hard to tangibly describe or quantify exactly those sentiments, but I guess the best example I can give is from seeing & comparing other artists who already made it huge (like Shepard) as they came up and made the transition into a higher echelon of the art world [of sorts].
I also think it is very interesting the insight into the art world that is available now (and can be shared on a global level too)...
Just sharing my personal thoughts/experiences:
In terms of the now, this is some of the stuff that caused me to take a VERY serious & close look @ RETNA's work.
From his older street work, he has evolved his current style and progressed heavily…as murals, galleries and mediums continued to change, he evolved a style that fit perfect for large scale gallery installations & the street alike.
What that style, hard work & dedication has progressed into…I have to say I understand 100% when people like Deitch talk about seeing his work and instantly seeing something major/special. Richard Duardo was actually the person who told me before all of the major hype & attention had come around RETNA…“watch him closely…that’s an artist who has it & has big things ahead”…I also have to say, Richard could not have been more right. In addition, when I first met RETNA face to face, I saw immediately saw what others [like Richard] had been saying in terms of not only his art, but also on a personal level too…that he definitely had something that really made you go “yeah, I see BIG things for you in the future…”
It’s hard to tangibly describe or quantify exactly those sentiments, but I guess the best example I can give is from seeing & comparing other artists who already made it huge (like Shepard) as they came up and made the transition into a higher echelon of the art world [of sorts].
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Baurmann Gallery on Feb 16, 2011 15:14:30 GMT 1, In terms of the future…that is anyone’s guess. Do I personally think RETNA has the lasting star power & resonance to be one of the major names in contemporary art…I definitely do without a doubt!
Also in terms of the future, only RETNA can be probably end up being his own worst enemy as often is the case when fame, fortune and/or notoriety come in big ways [and especially young]…to which, like anyone coming across good fortune & success, I sincerely wish him the best & only hope to see good things for him personally and for his art!!!
In terms of the future…that is anyone’s guess. Do I personally think RETNA has the lasting star power & resonance to be one of the major names in contemporary art…I definitely do without a doubt!
Also in terms of the future, only RETNA can be probably end up being his own worst enemy as often is the case when fame, fortune and/or notoriety come in big ways [and especially young]…to which, like anyone coming across good fortune & success, I sincerely wish him the best & only hope to see good things for him personally and for his art!!!
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by artylang on Feb 16, 2011 15:28:03 GMT 1, It seems as though Retna is a nice guy and I do wish him well. At times his work is very strong. But to call this show anything but an over hyped, over priced, rush job is ridiculous and uneducated. The sad thing is, the only one who will be hurt by this is Retna. Maybe if you have a relationship with the guy you should recommend he reads Collecting Contemporary by, Adam Lindemann and he will see that slow and steady always wins the race. Not, slow and steady until some trust fund babies tell you they can make you a wealthy man overnight. We've seen this a million times. It never works out.
It seems as though Retna is a nice guy and I do wish him well. At times his work is very strong. But to call this show anything but an over hyped, over priced, rush job is ridiculous and uneducated. The sad thing is, the only one who will be hurt by this is Retna. Maybe if you have a relationship with the guy you should recommend he reads Collecting Contemporary by, Adam Lindemann and he will see that slow and steady always wins the race. Not, slow and steady until some trust fund babies tell you they can make you a wealthy man overnight. We've seen this a million times. It never works out.
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Baurmann Gallery on Feb 16, 2011 15:36:59 GMT 1, It seems as though Retna is a nice guy and I do wish him well. At times his work is very strong. But to call this show anything but an over hyped, over priced, rush job is ridiculous and uneducated. The sad thing is, the only one who will be hurt by this is Retna. Maybe if you have a relationship with the guy you should recommend he reads Collecting Contemporary by, Adam Lindemann and he will see that slow and steady always wins the race. Not, slow and steady until some trust fund babies tell you they can make you a wealthy man overnight. We've seen this a million times. It never works out.
Very well said & things that should be seriously considered...
There is no question there is a ton of hype due to who is throwing it & all of the money behind it & the prices are equally insane [and meant for a different circle of collectors]. I also definitely agree it could either end up REALLY bad or REALLY good...if he blows the money he makes and assumes it will always be there & pisses it away [hence me saying he he could be his own worst enemy], things could go REALLY bad.
I just hope that uses this as a stepping stone, is smart about saving up and uses the opportunities now given wisely instead of others using him...
Like you stated...we have seen this a million times and it never works out. Hopefully he will have learned from other's mistakes and it will work out differently though. Yeah, I will be passing along my personal thoughts but everyone's got their opinions
It seems as though Retna is a nice guy and I do wish him well. At times his work is very strong. But to call this show anything but an over hyped, over priced, rush job is ridiculous and uneducated. The sad thing is, the only one who will be hurt by this is Retna. Maybe if you have a relationship with the guy you should recommend he reads Collecting Contemporary by, Adam Lindemann and he will see that slow and steady always wins the race. Not, slow and steady until some trust fund babies tell you they can make you a wealthy man overnight. We've seen this a million times. It never works out. Very well said & things that should be seriously considered... There is no question there is a ton of hype due to who is throwing it & all of the money behind it & the prices are equally insane [and meant for a different circle of collectors]. I also definitely agree it could either end up REALLY bad or REALLY good...if he blows the money he makes and assumes it will always be there & pisses it away [hence me saying he he could be his own worst enemy], things could go REALLY bad. I just hope that uses this as a stepping stone, is smart about saving up and uses the opportunities now given wisely instead of others using him... Like you stated...we have seen this a million times and it never works out. Hopefully he will have learned from other's mistakes and it will work out differently though. Yeah, I will be passing along my personal thoughts but everyone's got their opinions |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Simococo on Feb 16, 2011 15:54:52 GMT 1, Does anyone know the prices from this show?
Does anyone know the prices from this show?
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by mmmike on Feb 16, 2011 15:59:47 GMT 1, All this hype makes me loose interest. the whole thing seems very contrived. A well oiled PR machine at work
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All this hype makes me loose interest. the whole thing seems very contrived. A well oiled PR machine at work . |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by oneeye on Feb 16, 2011 16:13:31 GMT 1, This show was really weak if you ask me. All the works were flat and boring. Not one standout piece in the entire show. In fact, every piece looked exactly the same. I respect his style of writing but at least put some layers or depth into it.
I hate to say it but this show left me with the same feeling I had when I walked out of the MBW show in LA.
This show was really weak if you ask me. All the works were flat and boring. Not one standout piece in the entire show. In fact, every piece looked exactly the same. I respect his style of writing but at least put some layers or depth into it.
I hate to say it but this show left me with the same feeling I had when I walked out of the MBW show in LA.
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Daniel Silk on Feb 16, 2011 17:51:07 GMT 1, Retna The Hallelujah World Tour
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by cktbreaker on Feb 16, 2011 18:08:25 GMT 1, Here's the works on paper that are available.
Retna & CC Sheffield, “Flying Flags”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof, 2/2
43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $9,000
Retna, “La Chica”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof 2/2, 43’’ x 58.5’’ ,
Price: $9,000
Retna, “These are the days”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple 2/10, 40’’ x 60’’,
Price: $4,500
Retna, “When Judgement Ends”, 2010, Diamond DustHand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof 2/13,
43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $12,000
Here's the works on paper that are available. Retna & CC Sheffield, “Flying Flags”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof, 2/2 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $9,000 Retna, “La Chica”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof 2/2, 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $9,000 Retna, “These are the days”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple 2/10, 40’’ x 60’’, Price: $4,500 Retna, “When Judgement Ends”, 2010, Diamond DustHand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof 2/13, 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $12,000 |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by lifeonwalls on Feb 16, 2011 18:34:54 GMT 1, Almost every piece in that show looks similar to the one next to it. A series of hieroglyphs where none really stands out.
The prices are insane as well. If I were a betting man I'd wager that his market will not be able to sustain those levels for the long term.
Almost every piece in that show looks similar to the one next to it. A series of hieroglyphs where none really stands out.
The prices are insane as well. If I were a betting man I'd wager that his market will not be able to sustain those levels for the long term.
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by AoT Framing on Feb 23, 2011 9:51:10 GMT 1, Here's the works on paper that are available. Retna & CC Sheffield, “Flying Flags”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof, 2/2 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $9,000 Retna, “La Chica”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof 2/2, 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $9,000 Retna, “These are the days”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple 2/10, 40’’ x 60’’, Price: $4,500 Retna, “When Judgement Ends”, 2010, Diamond DustHand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof 2/13, 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $12,000
Where can i buy these please?
Here's the works on paper that are available. Retna & CC Sheffield, “Flying Flags”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof, 2/2 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $9,000 Retna, “La Chica”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof 2/2, 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $9,000 Retna, “These are the days”, 2010, Hand Painted Multiple 2/10, 40’’ x 60’’, Price: $4,500 Retna, “When Judgement Ends”, 2010, Diamond DustHand Painted Multiple/Artist Proof 2/13, 43’’ x 58.5’’ , Price: $12,000 Where can i buy these please? |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Daniel Silk on Feb 23, 2011 12:20:53 GMT 1, Another scribbler like Parla.
This stuff is really meaningless. Hype for the sake of hype.
Does Art really need to mean anything?
Another scribbler like Parla.
This stuff is really meaningless. Hype for the sake of hype.
Does Art really need to mean anything? |
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Retna "The Hallelujah World Tour" NY, 11th Feb, by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 13:04:38 GMT 1, Another scribbler like Parla.
This stuff is really meaningless. Hype for the sake of hype.
Does Art really need to mean anything?
Bad art doesn't, good, relevant or interesting art does, in my humble opinion of course. Nothing is "meaningless" is it, "thoughtless" & "mindless" maybe, never "meaningless".
Another scribbler like Parla.
This stuff is really meaningless. Hype for the sake of hype.
Does Art really need to mean anything? Bad art doesn't, good, relevant or interesting art does, in my humble opinion of course. Nothing is "meaningless" is it, "thoughtless" & "mindless" maybe, never "meaningless". |
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