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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by eschiff on Mar 9, 2012 18:03:49 GMT 1, nice to see that you're emotionally fragile! I mean seriously, the stated aim of the video is to create an 'emotional appeal and take advantage of that'...not to help the situation! That doesn't piss you off? it doesn't piss you off that it took a slick video to make you aware of this? It doesn't make you mad that what they're fighting for (kony out of Uganda) has already happened? there's so much wrong with this on so many levels. I'm glad it's making some people feel good about themselves, i'm sure the ugandans are happy that you feel like you're making a difference. Nah, I like slick video's, usually white hipsters putting up bad wheatpastes to hip hop soundtracks, these also make me cry. At least there were black people in this one.
i stand corrected, i can see exactly why you like this video. nothing like snide comments to reveal how much you care. keep up the good fight man.
nice to see that you're emotionally fragile! I mean seriously, the stated aim of the video is to create an 'emotional appeal and take advantage of that'...not to help the situation! That doesn't piss you off? it doesn't piss you off that it took a slick video to make you aware of this? It doesn't make you mad that what they're fighting for (kony out of Uganda) has already happened? there's so much wrong with this on so many levels. I'm glad it's making some people feel good about themselves, i'm sure the ugandans are happy that you feel like you're making a difference. Nah, I like slick video's, usually white hipsters putting up bad wheatpastes to hip hop soundtracks, these also make me cry. At least there were black people in this one. i stand corrected, i can see exactly why you like this video. nothing like snide comments to reveal how much you care. keep up the good fight man. |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 18:07:54 GMT 1, Nah, I like slick video's, usually white hipsters putting up bad wheatpastes to hip hop soundtracks, these also make me cry. At least there were black people in this one. Especially for you NuArt i.imgur.com/K3mgn.jpg
Brilliant !
Nah, I like slick video's, usually white hipsters putting up bad wheatpastes to hip hop soundtracks, these also make me cry. At least there were black people in this one. Especially for you NuArt i.imgur.com/K3mgn.jpgBrilliant ! |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by eschiff on Mar 9, 2012 18:10:57 GMT 1, Perhaps worst of all are the unexplored assumptions underpinning the awareness argument, which reduce people in conflict situations to two broad categories: mass-murderers like Joseph Kony and passive victims so helpless that they must wait around to be saved by a bunch of American college students with stickers. No Ugandans or other Africans are shown offering policy suggestions in the film, and it is implied that local governments were ineffective in combating the LRA simply because they didn't have enough American assistance.
Perhaps worst of all are the unexplored assumptions underpinning the awareness argument, which reduce people in conflict situations to two broad categories: mass-murderers like Joseph Kony and passive victims so helpless that they must wait around to be saved by a bunch of American college students with stickers. No Ugandans or other Africans are shown offering policy suggestions in the film, and it is implied that local governments were ineffective in combating the LRA simply because they didn't have enough American assistance.
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 18:27:23 GMT 1, Nah, I like slick video's, usually white hipsters putting up bad wheatpastes to hip hop soundtracks, these also make me cry. At least there were black people in this one. i stand corrected, i can see exactly why you like this video. nothing like snide comments to reveal how much you care. keep up the good fight man.
I'm not in a position to argue the merits of whether a slick video and wheatpaste campaign can help get Kony and the LRA out of Uganda, DP Congo or Sudan or anywhere else for that matter. I do know the technique succeeded into getting a lot of people into art. As far as I'm concerned the campaign has been devised to make people "Aware". Good enough for me. And to be honest, at $5 $10 or even $30, I don't really care whether it's a scam or not. I'm prepared to take that big massive monstrous financial risk. Because the video made me care. The alternative is.. don't give.. because you don't like the video, or the chance it might be a scam, or it may not help. That's cool by me too. No ones being judged.
Nah, I like slick video's, usually white hipsters putting up bad wheatpastes to hip hop soundtracks, these also make me cry. At least there were black people in this one. i stand corrected, i can see exactly why you like this video. nothing like snide comments to reveal how much you care. keep up the good fight man. I'm not in a position to argue the merits of whether a slick video and wheatpaste campaign can help get Kony and the LRA out of Uganda, DP Congo or Sudan or anywhere else for that matter. I do know the technique succeeded into getting a lot of people into art. As far as I'm concerned the campaign has been devised to make people "Aware". Good enough for me. And to be honest, at $5 $10 or even $30, I don't really care whether it's a scam or not. I'm prepared to take that big massive monstrous financial risk. Because the video made me care. The alternative is.. don't give.. because you don't like the video, or the chance it might be a scam, or it may not help. That's cool by me too. No ones being judged. |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 18:30:26 GMT 1, Perhaps worst of all are the unexplored assumptions underpinning the awareness argument, which reduce people in conflict situations to two broad categories: mass-murderers like Joseph Kony and passive victims so helpless that they must wait around to be saved by a bunch of American college students with stickers. No Ugandans or other Africans are shown offering policy suggestions in the film, and it is implied that local governments were ineffective in combating the LRA simply because they didn't have enough American assistance.
There's other films on the topic I'm sure. People can research if they have the time and come to their own conclusions no ? But for now, 45 million + people have been made aware. A good good thing.
Perhaps worst of all are the unexplored assumptions underpinning the awareness argument, which reduce people in conflict situations to two broad categories: mass-murderers like Joseph Kony and passive victims so helpless that they must wait around to be saved by a bunch of American college students with stickers. No Ugandans or other Africans are shown offering policy suggestions in the film, and it is implied that local governments were ineffective in combating the LRA simply because they didn't have enough American assistance. There's other films on the topic I'm sure. People can research if they have the time and come to their own conclusions no ? But for now, 45 million + people have been made aware. A good good thing. |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by misterx on Mar 9, 2012 19:42:01 GMT 1, t.co/RZrzlVYIAs beejoir says in his tweet " a more informed read". Hope the link works as it's a good read... Am I cynical? You bet... This thing is a con...$30 for a " kit"? Rich oil reserves and the US keen on gaining a bigger foothold on the Dark Continent where it can begin to compete with China( for the minerals? Nothing to do with Kony... Everything to do with US expansionism... Crazy? Maybe, but remember my words as you increasingly see Africa being demonized on the news... Good excuse to do nothing then. Kony2012 has everything to do with Kony as far as my old cynical eyes can see. f**k it, I gave the $30.
Mate, it cost you 30 bucks to get a nice ,warm fuzzy feeling that you have contributed towards "doing something" as you put it...youve invested in this "great cause"....
What exactly do you think will be done with your surely hard-earned money?
The point is you have been mislead into handing over your money....if your cool with that, then great, but its still a con however you wish to spin it because the documentary that is pushing this movement is chock full of "mis-truths"!!
t.co/RZrzlVYIAs beejoir says in his tweet " a more informed read". Hope the link works as it's a good read... Am I cynical? You bet... This thing is a con...$30 for a " kit"? Rich oil reserves and the US keen on gaining a bigger foothold on the Dark Continent where it can begin to compete with China( for the minerals? Nothing to do with Kony... Everything to do with US expansionism... Crazy? Maybe, but remember my words as you increasingly see Africa being demonized on the news... Good excuse to do nothing then. Kony2012 has everything to do with Kony as far as my old cynical eyes can see. f**k it, I gave the $30. Mate, it cost you 30 bucks to get a nice ,warm fuzzy feeling that you have contributed towards "doing something" as you put it...youve invested in this "great cause".... What exactly do you think will be done with your surely hard-earned money? The point is you have been mislead into handing over your money....if your cool with that, then great, but its still a con however you wish to spin it because the documentary that is pushing this movement is chock full of "mis-truths"!! |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by kultur on Mar 9, 2012 19:46:42 GMT 1,
I would like to trademark the name Konyed ie "You have been Koneyed"
I would like to trademark the name Konyed ie "You have been Koneyed"
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by misterx on Mar 9, 2012 20:19:32 GMT 1, Thanks sal... Good read.
Thanks sal... Good read.
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by simonf on Mar 9, 2012 20:59:19 GMT 1, Please whatever you do don't send Invisible Children any money, the whole thing is a con.
America is fighting for global control of Africa via its front organisation "Africom". They have realised that while they have been criminally expanding the American empire in the middle east. China has quietly been gaining control in the African continent.
Oil has been discovered in Uganda... lots of it. So the Americans start sending over "military advisors" to control the oil supply.
Obviously they can't say we are sending troops and weapons and soldiers to Africa for no reason. So they hire some extremely dodgy people to make a glossy film about the terrible things happening to children.
A similar sort of technique to the famous "Iraqis are throwing babies out of incubators" speech, that turned out to be totally false propaganda. A Piece tearfully performed by a female relative of the Kuwaiti king (citations available).
Please do some serious research on Invisible Children they are a very shady company. If you actually start researching them you will find some very worrying stuff. They are refusing to give the IRS any information on their funding, or how they are spending it. In short they are a front.
As far as I am aware Kony stopped being a problem on Uganda about 6 years ago. He, as far as I am aware, is no longer in Uganda. Uganda is no longer troubled by him, and is fairly stable.
Ufortuneatly for them they also have oil.
America has so far sent troop and weapons over (absolutely no food or aid for children of course... just weapons and troops).
There is a media operation going on to get the American people behind this massive and essentially illegal resources grab, and to do it they fill the screen with stories of poor young children.
If of course they were so worried about young children then they should stop drone attacks, and wouldn't have turned Bagdad to glass during "shock and awe". But then again hypocrisy has it's own peculiar symetry.
Anyway the nub of it is, the American government could give a toss about kids... it's just a cynical film to manipulate primarily teenagers on social media sites, to create a massive groundswell support for another bloody war.... for oil.
simple.... wear your bracelet with pride.
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Please whatever you do don't send Invisible Children any money, the whole thing is a con. America is fighting for global control of Africa via its front organisation "Africom". They have realised that while they have been criminally expanding the American empire in the middle east. China has quietly been gaining control in the African continent. Oil has been discovered in Uganda... lots of it. So the Americans start sending over "military advisors" to control the oil supply. Obviously they can't say we are sending troops and weapons and soldiers to Africa for no reason. So they hire some extremely dodgy people to make a glossy film about the terrible things happening to children. A similar sort of technique to the famous "Iraqis are throwing babies out of incubators" speech, that turned out to be totally false propaganda. A Piece tearfully performed by a female relative of the Kuwaiti king (citations available). Please do some serious research on Invisible Children they are a very shady company. If you actually start researching them you will find some very worrying stuff. They are refusing to give the IRS any information on their funding, or how they are spending it. In short they are a front. As far as I am aware Kony stopped being a problem on Uganda about 6 years ago. He, as far as I am aware, is no longer in Uganda. Uganda is no longer troubled by him, and is fairly stable. Ufortuneatly for them they also have oil. America has so far sent troop and weapons over (absolutely no food or aid for children of course... just weapons and troops). There is a media operation going on to get the American people behind this massive and essentially illegal resources grab, and to do it they fill the screen with stories of poor young children. If of course they were so worried about young children then they should stop drone attacks, and wouldn't have turned Bagdad to glass during "shock and awe". But then again hypocrisy has it's own peculiar symetry. Anyway the nub of it is, the American government could give a toss about kids... it's just a cynical film to manipulate primarily teenagers on social media sites, to create a massive groundswell support for another bloody war.... for oil. simple.... wear your bracelet with pride. ! Rant Over |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by mayhem on Mar 9, 2012 21:02:48 GMT 1, Right, this is all getting a bit much for me, I am unsure if I have donated money towards media terrorism, terrorism itself or helping towards the children’s welfare in Uganda.
I blame Shepard Fairy as he made me do it. ;D
I donate to certain charities, mostly regarding the safety, and lives of children.
This is the biggest can of worms I have opened after making a donation and cant help thinking I have been very cleverly hypnotized into giving £30 away before I even put my socks on yesterday morning. 
Right, this is all getting a bit much for me, I am unsure if I have donated money towards media terrorism, terrorism itself or helping towards the children’s welfare in Uganda. I blame Shepard Fairy as he made me do it. ;D I donate to certain charities, mostly regarding the safety, and lives of children. This is the biggest can of worms I have opened after making a donation and cant help thinking I have been very cleverly hypnotized into giving £30 away before I even put my socks on yesterday morning. |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by simonf on Mar 9, 2012 21:06:12 GMT 1, You have donated directly to the American government to support a land grab and a war for oil ... never mind did you get a T shirt? lol
You have donated directly to the American government to support a land grab and a war for oil ... never mind did you get a T shirt? lol
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by mayhem on Mar 9, 2012 21:29:35 GMT 1, You have donated directly to the American government to support a land grab and a war for oil ... never mind did you get a T shirt? lol
Every UK tax payer(myself included) does it everyday.
I am yet to receive a free T-shirt from the Inland Revenue. ;D
You have donated directly to the American government to support a land grab and a war for oil ... never mind did you get a T shirt? lol Every UK tax payer(myself included) does it everyday. I am yet to receive a free T-shirt from the Inland Revenue. ;D |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 21:37:08 GMT 1, a new trailer for kony 2012
a new trailer for kony 2012
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 21:43:18 GMT 1, You have donated directly to the American government to support a land grab and a war for oil ... never mind did you get a T shirt? lol Every UK tax payer(myself included) does it everyday. I am yet to receive a free T-shirt from the Inland Revenue. ;D
lol..
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by boatyyy on Mar 10, 2012 17:05:47 GMT 1, well, will be marvelously vague, here...
let's say all of the above is correct... but, understanding kony's new regime financial backers is key... anyways, seom super power is going to have to lose, china or otherwise; ... knowing full well, the innocent in habitants always lose (at least in the short term), too...
bottom line is, this thing has introduced this conflict, at some level, to folks who would not otherwise be aware... and among those millions, despite the politics and crime etc..., the seeds of that message will awaken a few young sleeping giants, and it will web into the awareness of other issues, and some will act and have an impact in the years to come...
well, will be marvelously vague, here...
let's say all of the above is correct... but, understanding kony's new regime financial backers is key... anyways, seom super power is going to have to lose, china or otherwise; ... knowing full well, the innocent in habitants always lose (at least in the short term), too...
bottom line is, this thing has introduced this conflict, at some level, to folks who would not otherwise be aware... and among those millions, despite the politics and crime etc..., the seeds of that message will awaken a few young sleeping giants, and it will web into the awareness of other issues, and some will act and have an impact in the years to come...
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by dotdot on Mar 10, 2012 18:36:44 GMT 1, a few words..
KONY != ROBERT MUGABE , not interested.
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a few words..
KONY != ROBERT MUGABE , not interested.
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by misterx on Mar 10, 2012 19:44:54 GMT 1, Zimbabwe has no oil.
Mugabe(who I know a lot about) is much worse than KONY atrocity -wise, and has been so for well over a decade...no one cares, even though the world has been aware....remember the photos of a beaten to a pulp Morgan Tsvangirai...the official Leader of the Opposition..??
So boatty, given the above,wheres Zimbabwes "young giants" to come along on their trusty steeds to save the day??
It just doesn't work like that....only when theres oil or gas involved....
Zimbabwe has no oil.
Mugabe(who I know a lot about) is much worse than KONY atrocity -wise, and has been so for well over a decade...no one cares, even though the world has been aware....remember the photos of a beaten to a pulp Morgan Tsvangirai...the official Leader of the Opposition..??
So boatty, given the above,wheres Zimbabwes "young giants" to come along on their trusty steeds to save the day??
It just doesn't work like that....only when theres oil or gas involved....
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by BorntoKiln on Mar 12, 2012 14:34:37 GMT 1, OK, I stand corrected. After reading all the guff, I wont be getting involved in this. Must say I'm not sure about Alex Jones though,
ain't he all about the money?
Nuart - Spot on regarding beejoir's LV child.
Mayhem - Spot on regarding TAX and funding the US.
OK, I stand corrected. After reading all the guff, I wont be getting involved in this. Must say I'm not sure about Alex Jones though,
ain't he all about the money?
Nuart - Spot on regarding beejoir's LV child.
Mayhem - Spot on regarding TAX and funding the US.
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by sakyamuni on Mar 12, 2012 16:55:52 GMT 1,
LRA in DRC, yes. Two attacks near Dungu last week. And more to come as they announced to the population of a small village a week ago.
There are several ICC indictees living in DRC without any problem, it could be more interesting to chase these as they are powerful and responsible for far more deaths than kony and his boys. One of them is the head of the army in North Kivu and lives in his big house in Goma, you don't need to send american military experts to find him, just visit his office 
LRA in DRC, yes. Two attacks near Dungu last week. And more to come as they announced to the population of a small village a week ago. There are several ICC indictees living in DRC without any problem, it could be more interesting to chase these as they are powerful and responsible for far more deaths than kony and his boys. One of them is the head of the army in North Kivu and lives in his big house in Goma, you don't need to send american military experts to find him, just visit his office |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by mayhem on Mar 14, 2012 12:04:22 GMT 1, Interesting news from Africa, The ICC found Congo warlord Thomas Lubanga found guilty of recruiting and using child soldiers between 2002 and 2003.
Analysts say it could set legal precedents for others accused of similar crimes.
The ICC issued its first arrest warrant in 2005 against the Ugandan rebel leader, Joseph Kony, who remains at large.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17364988
Interesting news from Africa, The ICC found Congo warlord Thomas Lubanga found guilty of recruiting and using child soldiers between 2002 and 2003. Analysts say it could set legal precedents for others accused of similar crimes. The ICC issued its first arrest warrant in 2005 against the Ugandan rebel leader, Joseph Kony, who remains at large. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17364988 |
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by stang on Mar 15, 2012 20:14:23 GMT 1, ;D
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by searchandrescue on Mar 15, 2012 20:35:51 GMT 1, thanks stang, a reminder of the awesomeness that is Charlie Brooker
thanks stang, a reminder of the awesomeness that is Charlie Brooker
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JOSEPH KONY 2012, by Warm Gun on Mar 15, 2012 21:30:20 GMT 1, Loved the Charlie Brooker piece on this last night. It certainly shed a different light on the subject.
Loved the Charlie Brooker piece on this last night. It certainly shed a different light on the subject.
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