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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Coach on Nov 22, 2015 0:15:40 GMT 1, When I got my current job (08) agreed with my ex that I could spend a significant amount of money on a piece of art.
Had an email exchange with Charming Baker about buying a canvas. Before he shot to fame. Price was, if memory serves, ยฃ2k.
The canvas of the boy in an anorak painting a gun at the viewer. Very pleasant email exchange.
Was also talking to TLSG (I think it was) about buying a Herakut canvas. About same price.
Bought the Herakut.
Could have paid off my mortgage for the amount that the CB was later being sold for! I seem to remember that it was in the six figures, though that may only have been an estimate - my memory is hazy. In any event, it was shed loads!
Hey ho!
When I got my current job (08) agreed with my ex that I could spend a significant amount of money on a piece of art.
Had an email exchange with Charming Baker about buying a canvas. Before he shot to fame. Price was, if memory serves, ยฃ2k.
The canvas of the boy in an anorak painting a gun at the viewer. Very pleasant email exchange.
Was also talking to TLSG (I think it was) about buying a Herakut canvas. About same price.
Bought the Herakut.
Could have paid off my mortgage for the amount that the CB was later being sold for! I seem to remember that it was in the six figures, though that may only have been an estimate - my memory is hazy. In any event, it was shed loads!
Hey ho!
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by zbubble on Nov 22, 2015 0:46:24 GMT 1, My biggest regret is buying prints when i first started, a tighter collection of originals is far superior to a high volume print collection.
My biggest regret is buying prints when i first started, a tighter collection of originals is far superior to a high volume print collection. Could not agree more with this statement. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 2:33:53 GMT 1, All my regrets come from not buying something. Can't be mad at that...
All my regrets come from not buying something. Can't be mad at that...
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by saucyjack on Nov 23, 2015 3:00:30 GMT 1, I agree about the purchasing of prints. Early in my collecting days, I wish I'd had more self control and saved my dough for original works. Thankfully, I liquidated all of that paper years ago.
It is easy to buy into hype, especially when you are new to collecting.
I agree about the purchasing of prints. Early in my collecting days, I wish I'd had more self control and saved my dough for original works. Thankfully, I liquidated all of that paper years ago.
It is easy to buy into hype, especially when you are new to collecting.
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by sixsense on Nov 23, 2015 9:31:41 GMT 1, Hirst Spots Mickey
When it was @3.3K
Hirst Spots Mickey
When it was @3.3K
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Hubble Bubble on Nov 23, 2015 9:54:22 GMT 1, My biggest regret is buying prints when i first started, a tighter collection of originals is far superior to a high volume print collection. Could not agree more with this statement.
My biggest regret is buying prints when i first started, a tighter collection of originals is far superior to a high volume print collection. Could not agree more with this statement. I don't knowโฆ My collection holds both originals and prints. For instance, I collect work by David Hockney but his originals are way out of my pay grade. So I carefully target lithographs and prints to build my collection. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by markent on Nov 23, 2015 11:42:28 GMT 1, Missing out on a Banksy "bad meaning good" canvas for ยฃ1505 in 2005, I bid up to ยฃ1500...... 
Missing out on a Banksy "bad meaning good" canvas for ยฃ1505 in 2005, I bid up to ยฃ1500...... DOH!! What do you think this would be worth now?? or is it best not to know |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Lroy on Nov 23, 2015 12:44:13 GMT 1, My biggest regrets is to had sell some record sleeves where there was a Banksy or the second edition ( 2000 ex ) of Paris Hilton cd.
Some stickers too...
And the Happy drones by Gagnon.
Some Frech comics books as well
And all my souvenirs from my London years in the late 70 ( ultra rare photographies of Bowie - studio shooting falls - as big as a poster and in argentic - , singles, " pirates " badges of Bowie, punks , Pistols, posters, Vicious, etc... )
Well all of this period.
I still have some badges and a broken keyring of the RAH...
My biggest regrets is to had sell some record sleeves where there was a Banksy or the second edition ( 2000 ex ) of Paris Hilton cd.
Some stickers too...
And the Happy drones by Gagnon.
Some Frech comics books as well
And all my souvenirs from my London years in the late 70 ( ultra rare photographies of Bowie - studio shooting falls - as big as a poster and in argentic - , singles, " pirates " badges of Bowie, punks , Pistols, posters, Vicious, etc... )
Well all of this period.
I still have some badges and a broken keyring of the RAH...
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Sliding on the Walls on Nov 23, 2015 16:34:53 GMT 1,  selling this due to wife wanting a new kitchen. f**k food.
The irony here is painful
selling this due to wife wanting a new kitchen. f**k food. The irony here is painful |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by ABC on Nov 23, 2015 17:28:53 GMT 1, Apart from tacking an RC to wall with drawing pins then having it thrown away (after all it was just classed as an expensive poster then (ยฃ25 I think), I've had too many to list here. Well apart from the many Banksy works I could not afford @ ยฃ125 for a canvas, I have always been gutted about not buying a nice large Faile OG from the Portland show in 06 for $2k. At the time my wife said buy it if you like it. My mind said "you're skint and there is steam coming out of the s**tty computer" so buy a new PC instead, worse thing is, I knew who bought the FAILE.
Apart from tacking an RC to wall with drawing pins then having it thrown away (after all it was just classed as an expensive poster then (ยฃ25 I think), I've had too many to list here. Well apart from the many Banksy works I could not afford @ ยฃ125 for a canvas, I have always been gutted about not buying a nice large Faile OG from the Portland show in 06 for $2k. At the time my wife said buy it if you like it. My mind said "you're skint and there is steam coming out of the s**tty computer" so buy a new PC instead, worse thing is, I knew who bought the FAILE.
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Ponyboy Curtis on Nov 23, 2015 17:33:20 GMT 1, "Not having that Banksy crap hanging on my wall!" Mrs Ponyboy Curtis circa 2004. 
"Not having that Banksy crap hanging on my wall!" Mrs Ponyboy Curtis circa 2004. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by natstan on Nov 24, 2015 16:05:22 GMT 1, Half the time, I'm waiting for someone to tell us their biggest purchase regret. Surprised nobody made any buying mistake.
Half the time, I'm waiting for someone to tell us their biggest purchase regret. Surprised nobody made any buying mistake.
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 16:24:31 GMT 1, Half the time, I'm waiting for someone to tell us their biggest purchase regret. Surprised nobody made any buying mistake.
Half the time, I'm waiting for someone to tell us their biggest purchase regret. Surprised nobody made any buying mistake. Give it time, we're still making our excel spread sheets. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by burgerman on Nov 24, 2015 16:55:14 GMT 1, 
Think biggest regret was not buying a large canvas back in 2001. I would say biggest financial loss like has been mentioned could be merged with the rolf harris thread. The only place his work is suitable for now is the fire.
Think biggest regret was not buying a large canvas back in 2001. I would say biggest financial loss like has been mentioned could be merged with the rolf harris thread. The only place his work is suitable for now is the fire. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Dungle on Nov 24, 2015 17:32:26 GMT 1, Give it time, we're still making our excel spread sheets. some on here paid ยฃ8000+ for micallef prints - not me Those that paid ยฃ70k+ for adam neate originals, terribly managed They'll be more
Did people really pay 70k for a Neate original?
Why do you say terribly managed?
Give it time, we're still making our excel spread sheets. some on here paid ยฃ8000+ for micallef prints - not me Those that paid ยฃ70k+ for adam neate originals, terribly managed They'll be more Did people really pay 70k for a Neate original? Why do you say terribly managed? |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by yoyosh on Nov 24, 2015 17:51:34 GMT 1, When I was new on these forums I chickened out of a deal to buy a US Silver Flags for $1000 USD shipped.
Because marraige
When I was new on these forums I chickened out of a deal to buy a US Silver Flags for $1000 USD shipped.
Because marraige
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 20:56:11 GMT 1, When I was new on these forums I chickened out of a deal to buy a US Silver Flags for $1000 USD shipped. Because marraige
When I was new on these forums I chickened out of a deal to buy a US Silver Flags for $1000 USD shipped. Because marraige is the price that much more now? |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by vernaxley on Nov 25, 2015 19:41:27 GMT 1, Did people really pay 70k for a Neate original? Why do you say terribly managed? yep. Managed badly as his prices shot up very quickly without much thinking, people paid a lot of money. They did a US show with no history and people were like, "who the f**k is this guy", bombed. Originals were sold to anyone and not placed with collectors. Auction prices were incredibly low.. lots of pissed off owners with very little market outside of the Uk and stuck with art of no resale value. Parla was smart jumping ship
Neate wasn't badly managed, he was let down by his collectors who were looking to exploit the artist in the short term. Serious collectors would have protected both their investment and the artist over the long term. Neateโs collectors bailed. His prices at the time were driven by demand and the quality of the art and everyone could see that at the time. Itโs a pity those collectors didnโt have the balls to see it through . Neate will come good in the end because the artist and his evolution has been well documented and protected. Part of that will be down to the people who look after him. These are the same people who worked with Parla (who benefitted hugely from this association), Kaws and many more in the early days before the the-next-Banksy bandwagon bought fly-by-night speculators into town.
Did people really pay 70k for a Neate original? Why do you say terribly managed? yep. Managed badly as his prices shot up very quickly without much thinking, people paid a lot of money. They did a US show with no history and people were like, "who the f**k is this guy", bombed. Originals were sold to anyone and not placed with collectors. Auction prices were incredibly low.. lots of pissed off owners with very little market outside of the Uk and stuck with art of no resale value. Parla was smart jumping ship Neate wasn't badly managed, he was let down by his collectors who were looking to exploit the artist in the short term. Serious collectors would have protected both their investment and the artist over the long term. Neateโs collectors bailed. His prices at the time were driven by demand and the quality of the art and everyone could see that at the time. Itโs a pity those collectors didnโt have the balls to see it through . Neate will come good in the end because the artist and his evolution has been well documented and protected. Part of that will be down to the people who look after him. These are the same people who worked with Parla (who benefitted hugely from this association), Kaws and many more in the early days before the the-next-Banksy bandwagon bought fly-by-night speculators into town. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by vernaxley on Nov 25, 2015 19:56:53 GMT 1, "collectors' being the operative word. Instead of being placed into collectors hands they were sold to every tom dick, flyby night and stockt**t. Is that the collectors fault? the wrong collectors. Have you ever noticed what happens to the artists that are hyped very quickly, whose prices are inflated quickly? Do you think there maybe a reason why Kaws and Parla etc moved on? cause they were let down by their collectors?
That's no way to talk about the people on this forum, both former and current members.
"collectors' being the operative word. Instead of being placed into collectors hands they were sold to every tom dick, flyby night and stockt**t. Is that the collectors fault? the wrong collectors. Have you ever noticed what happens to the artists that are hyped very quickly, whose prices are inflated quickly? Do you think there maybe a reason why Kaws and Parla etc moved on? cause they were let down by their collectors? That's no way to talk about the people on this forum, both former and current members. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by met on Nov 30, 2015 14:53:00 GMT 1, "Not having that Banksy crap hanging on my wall!" Mrs Ponyboy Curtis circa 2004.
This is an amusing quote.
I like to think she's continuing to remain true to her original position.
Or, if she has since changed her mind, hopefully it wasn't just down to the increase in popularity, institutional recognition and financial value of Banksy's work.
"Not having that Banksy crap hanging on my wall!" Mrs Ponyboy Curtis circa 2004. This is an amusing quote. I like to think she's continuing to remain true to her original position. Or, if she has since changed her mind, hopefully it wasn't just down to the increase in popularity, institutional recognition and financial value of Banksy's work. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Ponyboy Curtis on Nov 30, 2015 17:18:41 GMT 1, "Not having that Banksy crap hanging on my wall!" Mrs Ponyboy Curtis circa 2004. This is an amusing quote. I like to think she's continuing to remain true to her original position. Or, if she has since changed her mind, hopefully it wasn't just down to the increase in popularity, institutional recognition and financial value of Banksy's work. 
"Not having that Banksy crap hanging on my wall!" Mrs Ponyboy Curtis circa 2004. This is an amusing quote. I like to think she's continuing to remain true to her original position. Or, if she has since changed her mind, hopefully it wasn't just down to the increase in popularity, institutional recognition and financial value of Banksy's work. No. I simply stopped asking her for an opinion and just bought and hung what I wanted. She's got use to them. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by met on Dec 1, 2015 14:59:57 GMT 1, This is an amusing quote. I like to think she's continuing to remain true to her original position. Or, if she has since changed her mind, hopefully it wasn't just down to the increase in popularity, institutional recognition and financial value of Banksy's work. No. I simply stopped asking her for an opinion and just bought and hung what I wanted. She's got use to them.
It sounds like you've acquired plenty of experience-based wisdom over the years. That may be one of the secrets to a happy life, or at least a reasonably contented life with unwanted disruptions kept to a minimum.
Reminds me of the old maxim (often attributed to Grace Hopper, and repeated in the past by Banksy): It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission.
This is an amusing quote. I like to think she's continuing to remain true to her original position. Or, if she has since changed her mind, hopefully it wasn't just down to the increase in popularity, institutional recognition and financial value of Banksy's work. No. I simply stopped asking her for an opinion and just bought and hung what I wanted. She's got use to them. It sounds like you've acquired plenty of experience-based wisdom over the years. That may be one of the secrets to a happy life, or at least a reasonably contented life with unwanted disruptions kept to a minimum. Reminds me of the old maxim (often attributed to Grace Hopper, and repeated in the past by Banksy): It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 21:38:18 GMT 1, This is an amusing quote. I like to think she's continuing to remain true to her original position. Or, if she has since changed her mind, hopefully it wasn't just down to the increase in popularity, institutional recognition and financial value of Banksy's work. No. I simply stopped asking her for an opinion and just bought and hung what I wanted. She's got use to them.
This is an amusing quote. I like to think she's continuing to remain true to her original position. Or, if she has since changed her mind, hopefully it wasn't just down to the increase in popularity, institutional recognition and financial value of Banksy's work. No. I simply stopped asking her for an opinion and just bought and hung what I wanted. She's got use to them. Amazing. I trained my wife over the past 16 years, she now has a fantastic eye and sense for art, but in the beginning she was folding prints to fit in Ikea frames. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by tigerblood on Feb 12, 2016 18:34:50 GMT 1, Wow... Nothing as drastic as ^^^ but I sold an Eelus Dress Up years ago when I was short on cash (sold extremely cheaply I may add). I wish I had that back.
Also sold some iconic Dolks when I bought my house. Bought most of them back though.
Wow... Nothing as drastic as ^^^ but I sold an Eelus Dress Up years ago when I was short on cash (sold extremely cheaply I may add). I wish I had that back.
Also sold some iconic Dolks when I bought my house. Bought most of them back though.
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by AoT Framing on Feb 12, 2016 20:46:43 GMT 1, Not buying a Girl with Balloon diptych canvas for ยฃ4.5k from Lazarides when I had the money. Think last pair sold for 125k
Selling my signed Bomb Middle England/Signed Laugh Now who I bought from Ben Eine.
Regret Buying 2 David Choe Originals for thousands and selling them for 75% less than I paid.
Not buying a Girl with Balloon diptych canvas for ยฃ4.5k from Lazarides when I had the money. Think last pair sold for 125k
Selling my signed Bomb Middle England/Signed Laugh Now who I bought from Ben Eine.
Regret Buying 2 David Choe Originals for thousands and selling them for 75% less than I paid.
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by monsoonking on Feb 12, 2016 22:07:05 GMT 1, Half the time, I'm waiting for someone to tell us their biggest purchase regret. Surprised nobody made any buying mistake. Give it time, we're still making our excel spread sheets.
I won't name names, but I'd probably be willing to liquidate upwards of 75% of my collection at cost, or even at a sizable discount thereto. Even if I don't dislike those pieces, I'd frankly prefer to rotate into other, more enduring works.
The truth is, taste evolves over time, especially for those seriously thinking about art. I keep a spreadsheet of artists I'm fond of. Revisiting entries from years ago often leaves me scratching my head a bit. Regretting many old purchases, rather than being viewed as some sort of moral weakness, should probably be regarded as a sign of maturation as a collector.
As usual, one should buy what they love rather than chase dollars, because those dollars rarely materialize (especially when measured over an entire collection). The tricky part is separating the two concepts. It's all too easy to convince yourself that you love something that you expect to go up in value and be hypercrictical of work you know has little to no secondary market value.
Half the time, I'm waiting for someone to tell us their biggest purchase regret. Surprised nobody made any buying mistake. Give it time, we're still making our excel spread sheets. Exactly. It's sort of a masturbatory exercise to sit around and say, "OMG! I totally should have bought that thing that went way up in value!" I mean, no sh*t! However, the fact that those regrets cluster around an incredibly small number of artists is telling. Namely, that the work of most artists doesn't rise with time, and is usually difficult to sell at even cost. This is especially true of OGs (despite the surfeit of love they've gotten on this thread). I won't name names, but I'd probably be willing to liquidate upwards of 75% of my collection at cost, or even at a sizable discount thereto. Even if I don't dislike those pieces, I'd frankly prefer to rotate into other, more enduring works. The truth is, taste evolves over time, especially for those seriously thinking about art. I keep a spreadsheet of artists I'm fond of. Revisiting entries from years ago often leaves me scratching my head a bit. Regretting many old purchases, rather than being viewed as some sort of moral weakness, should probably be regarded as a sign of maturation as a collector. As usual, one should buy what they love rather than chase dollars, because those dollars rarely materialize (especially when measured over an entire collection). The tricky part is separating the two concepts. It's all too easy to convince yourself that you love something that you expect to go up in value and be hypercrictical of work you know has little to no secondary market value. |
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 22:37:04 GMT 1, My biggest regret is not buying the Micallef prints, Minatour Weapon, Bomber Girl and We Come In Peace for ยฃ4,700 each, goodness knows how much they are worth now for only ยฃ15,000 down? D'oh!
My biggest regret is not buying the Micallef prints, Minatour Weapon, Bomber Girl and We Come In Peace for ยฃ4,700 each, goodness knows how much they are worth now for only ยฃ15,000 down? D'oh!
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by Sliding on the Walls on Feb 13, 2016 1:02:49 GMT 1, Forgive my ignorance but why did Antony Micallef / Antony Micallef art prints bomb so dramatically?
What exactly happened and why? What is market rate now and has it affected him as an artist?
Forgive my ignorance but why did Antony Micallef / Antony Micallef art prints bomb so dramatically?
What exactly happened and why? What is market rate now and has it affected him as an artist?
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What do you REGRET Selling, Buying or Not Buying, by curiousgeorge on Feb 13, 2016 1:25:08 GMT 1, Forgive my ignorance but why did Antony Micallef / Antony Micallef art prints bomb so dramatically? What exactly happened and why? What is market rate now and has it affected him as an artist?
Impure Idols show
Edition of 400 prints?? x 4 images for 1k+vat. Poorly managed queue, misinformation,fighting.Die-hard street art fans were not impressed!! Celebs rocking up last minute and buying already sold out prints.Pretty much at the peak of flipping,some people actually paid out extra on secondary.
I've been though many sets and lucky not have not got my fingers burnt.Still covet these and a few other Micallef images. Don't think it has affected him at all other than no more excessive releases
Forgive my ignorance but why did Antony Micallef / Antony Micallef art prints bomb so dramatically? What exactly happened and why? What is market rate now and has it affected him as an artist? Impure Idols show Edition of 400 prints?? x 4 images for 1k+vat. Poorly managed queue, misinformation,fighting.Die-hard street art fans were not impressed!! Celebs rocking up last minute and buying already sold out prints.Pretty much at the peak of flipping,some people actually paid out extra on secondary. I've been though many sets and lucky not have not got my fingers burnt.Still covet these and a few other Micallef images. Don't think it has affected him at all other than no more excessive releases |
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