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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by mouser on Feb 12, 2012 22:42:41 GMT 1, All I can say is, kids will be kids! Not a big fan but I still do appreciate his efforts, not everything is going to be a home run but you still have to swing...right? He will either survive the times or he will fall by the waste side like so many before him and get a 9-5, but again at least he makes the effort good or bad. Cheers
All I can say is, kids will be kids! Not a big fan but I still do appreciate his efforts, not everything is going to be a home run but you still have to swing...right? He will either survive the times or he will fall by the waste side like so many before him and get a 9-5, but again at least he makes the effort good or bad. Cheers Someone said yesterday that he's about 21, seems alot of folk still think of him as a "kid", not sure its a fitting description / excuse any longer. 21 in my opinion is a firm footing in adulthood, I know by the time I was 21, I'd be most unimpressed being referred to as a kid. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by dlton on Feb 13, 2012 4:32:21 GMT 1, And tagging AZE after your spazzy CARTRAIN are you part of AZE Crew now?
www.flickr.com/photos/ro_jo_sul/274684011/
Ptfffff
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by swamped on Feb 13, 2012 5:57:14 GMT 1, 21 is an adult, but clearly going into a nice hotel suite like that and just tagging on the wall is the actions of a "KID", or an extremely imature adult. Most not all, but most 21 year olds still are on the parents nipple and not doing it for themselves yet, I suspect he falls into that catagory. But anyway you look at it a 21 year old person is a kid still Mouser, at 21 you dont like the sound of it, but it is what it is...
21 is an adult, but clearly going into a nice hotel suite like that and just tagging on the wall is the actions of a "KID", or an extremely imature adult. Most not all, but most 21 year olds still are on the parents nipple and not doing it for themselves yet, I suspect he falls into that catagory. But anyway you look at it a 21 year old person is a kid still Mouser, at 21 you dont like the sound of it, but it is what it is...
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by dlton on Feb 13, 2012 6:12:40 GMT 1, Wonder if it was a family run/owned hotel or a big corporate chain?
Wonder if it was a family run/owned hotel or a big corporate chain?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by misterx on Feb 13, 2012 7:51:39 GMT 1, The fact that he has his own thread 4 pages long amazes me....
zzzz.
The fact that he has his own thread 4 pages long amazes me....
zzzz.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hunter007 on Feb 13, 2012 10:31:14 GMT 1, that video is shocking id hunt the little p*ick down
that video is shocking id hunt the little p*ick down
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hunter007 on Feb 13, 2012 10:32:21 GMT 1, nob
nob
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Chrisp on Feb 13, 2012 14:52:04 GMT 1, be funny to see the reactions if it were say..... Banksy
be funny to see the reactions if it were say..... Banksy
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Cedric Mnich on Feb 13, 2012 14:57:10 GMT 1, Wonder if it was a family run/owned hotel or a big corporate chain?
I think it 's Hotel de l'Europe in Amsterdam (spliffs+beer=Cartrain...). Most likely Prinzenkammer salon. Been there a few months ago for my job. It's owned by a corporate chain (the leading hotels of the world) but I don't see what it changes. It's still basic immature vandalism. or dog's piss.
Wonder if it was a family run/owned hotel or a big corporate chain? I think it 's Hotel de l'Europe in Amsterdam (spliffs+beer=Cartrain...). Most likely Prinzenkammer salon. Been there a few months ago for my job. It's owned by a corporate chain (the leading hotels of the world) but I don't see what it changes. It's still basic immature vandalism. or dog's piss. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Cedric Mnich on Feb 13, 2012 14:57:32 GMT 1, Wonder if it was a family run/owned hotel or a big corporate chain? I think it 's Hotel de l'Europe in Amsterdam (spliffs+beer=Cartrain...). Most likely Prinzenkammer salon. Been there a few months ago for my job. It's owned by a corporate chain (the leading hotels of the world) but I don't see what it changes. It's still basic immature vandalism. or dog's piss.
www.leurope.nl/prinsenkamer
Wonder if it was a family run/owned hotel or a big corporate chain? I think it 's Hotel de l'Europe in Amsterdam (spliffs+beer=Cartrain...). Most likely Prinzenkammer salon. Been there a few months ago for my job. It's owned by a corporate chain (the leading hotels of the world) but I don't see what it changes. It's still basic immature vandalism. or dog's piss. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by lifeonwalls on Feb 13, 2012 16:43:24 GMT 1,
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by nah on Feb 13, 2012 17:13:05 GMT 1, hell yeah bro, you sure showed whichever min wage worker is gonna get forced to clean that whats up
hell yeah bro, you sure showed whichever min wage worker is gonna get forced to clean that whats up
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by cadeallaw on Feb 13, 2012 19:27:58 GMT 1, yes.
yes.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Coach on Feb 13, 2012 22:54:39 GMT 1, Ok, I'll give this one a go. Whether you like his work or not, Cartrain is an artist, and I think that any criticism of his work should be constructive. The insults have been going on now for so long, I feel it might be a little tired. Fwiw, I am not a fan of Cartrains work, although I do like some of his photographs. I just don't particularly like seeing someone continously slated on a public forum. That's all - you did ask! c And this is art? I'd be interested in hearing what the point of this is.
Hey Sean, if the question was to me, then, no I dont think that's art.
Some of what Cartrain does is art. Not art that I like. I was never defending his work, or attributing to it any particular merit. I was only saying that I didnt particularly like the insults. All just my personal opinion.
As for the tagging, I think it does make a difference whether the building is part of a big business or a small privately owned hotel - again, just personal opinion.
I also don't particularly like to see an historical building (that this looks like) tagged.
Do I think he should have done it - no. Is it art - no.
IMO.
Ok, I'll give this one a go. Whether you like his work or not, Cartrain is an artist, and I think that any criticism of his work should be constructive. The insults have been going on now for so long, I feel it might be a little tired. Fwiw, I am not a fan of Cartrains work, although I do like some of his photographs. I just don't particularly like seeing someone continously slated on a public forum. That's all - you did ask! c And this is art? I'd be interested in hearing what the point of this is. Hey Sean, if the question was to me, then, no I dont think that's art. Some of what Cartrain does is art. Not art that I like. I was never defending his work, or attributing to it any particular merit. I was only saying that I didnt particularly like the insults. All just my personal opinion. As for the tagging, I think it does make a difference whether the building is part of a big business or a small privately owned hotel - again, just personal opinion. I also don't particularly like to see an historical building (that this looks like) tagged. Do I think he should have done it - no. Is it art - no. IMO. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 23:19:20 GMT 1, Coach - no problem with what you say.
As I've said before, what cartrain produces as art is replicated in schools and colleges across the land. And usually much better.
Sadly his stunts and self-promotion are piss-poor because their isn't the quality of work to justify it.
And this video is a prime example. Any buffoon can do this, but most people don't because they know who it affects most.
I bet the system is quaking in its boots.
Coach - no problem with what you say.
As I've said before, what cartrain produces as art is replicated in schools and colleges across the land. And usually much better.
Sadly his stunts and self-promotion are piss-poor because their isn't the quality of work to justify it.
And this video is a prime example. Any buffoon can do this, but most people don't because they know who it affects most.
I bet the system is quaking in its boots.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by thegreatarchitect on Feb 14, 2012 11:51:59 GMT 1, Well i thought it was brillant, brilliant, brilliant , i think many miss the point
Well i thought it was brillant, brilliant, brilliant , i think many miss the point
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by thegreatarchitect on Feb 14, 2012 11:52:48 GMT 1, Well i thought it was brilliant, brilliant, brilliant , i think many miss the point
Well i thought it was brilliant, brilliant, brilliant , i think many miss the point
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by speebe on Feb 14, 2012 12:08:50 GMT 1, Well i thought it was brilliant, brilliant, brilliant , i think many miss the point
What's the point..........? Pray tell.
Well i thought it was brilliant, brilliant, brilliant , i think many miss the point What's the point..........? Pray tell. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Coach on Feb 14, 2012 12:28:19 GMT 1, You beat me to it speebe
You beat me to it speebe
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by johnnyh on Feb 14, 2012 12:34:34 GMT 1, From the above looks like he missed the point twice ;D ;D
From the above looks like he missed the point twice ;D ;D
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Cedric Mnich on Feb 14, 2012 14:41:53 GMT 1, what's brilliant in vandalizing amsterdam's hotel de l'europe Prinsenkamer salon exactly ? I'd be curious to read an explanation.
PS : it could be Banksy or anyone else, that would not change anything.
PS bis : Banksy was certainly a tagger from what I read here and there. Thing is he grew up since.
what's brilliant in vandalizing amsterdam's hotel de l'europe Prinsenkamer salon exactly ? I'd be curious to read an explanation.
PS : it could be Banksy or anyone else, that would not change anything.
PS bis : Banksy was certainly a tagger from what I read here and there. Thing is he grew up since.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by nacional on Feb 14, 2012 19:31:18 GMT 1, I think it's actually funny.....but that's just dumb ol' me....
I think it's actually funny.....but that's just dumb ol' me....
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by milkybinbags on Feb 15, 2012 11:06:41 GMT 1, As I've said before, what cartrain produces as art is replicated in schools and colleges across the land.
Most of those kids would manage to fit their name inside the lines too...
This really does nothing for me. Agree with Coach that I don't like seeing historical buildings damaged/defaced and ultimately, what is the point of tagging your name in the dining room of a hotel? Clearly never going to be seen by anyone in person as I really doubt they allowed dinner to be served in there before painting it out. Falls flat as a publicity stunt IMO. Doesn't impress me and doesn't even really annoy me, just seems rather pointless.
Putting up a piece of art is completely different from throwing up a poorly executed tag in this setting.
As I've said before, what cartrain produces as art is replicated in schools and colleges across the land. Most of those kids would manage to fit their name inside the lines too... This really does nothing for me. Agree with Coach that I don't like seeing historical buildings damaged/defaced and ultimately, what is the point of tagging your name in the dining room of a hotel? Clearly never going to be seen by anyone in person as I really doubt they allowed dinner to be served in there before painting it out. Falls flat as a publicity stunt IMO. Doesn't impress me and doesn't even really annoy me, just seems rather pointless. Putting up a piece of art is completely different from throwing up a poorly executed tag in this setting. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by thegreatarchitect on Feb 15, 2012 11:56:05 GMT 1, that video is shocking id hunt the little p*ick down
That's the sort of objectivity we like to see
Burnt any good books lately?
that video is shocking id hunt the little p*ick down That's the sort of objectivity we like to see Burnt any good books lately? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 12:45:51 GMT 1, best thing he's ever done !
best thing he's ever done !
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alistairkhalil on Feb 15, 2012 16:01:28 GMT 1, CARTRAIN is a legend..
To be fair, he makes great art that some of you never get to see..
Cartrain retrospective, you are all curators..
CARTRAIN is a legend..
To be fair, he makes great art that some of you never get to see..
Cartrain retrospective, you are all curators..
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by speebe on Feb 15, 2012 16:10:57 GMT 1, CARTRAIN is a Bellend.. To be fair, he makes great art that some of you never get to see.. Cartrain retrospective, you are all curators..
I agree...
CARTRAIN is a Bellend.. To be fair, he makes great art that some of you never get to see.. Cartrain retrospective, you are all curators.. I agree... |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by ilmambo on Feb 15, 2012 16:14:05 GMT 1, CARTRAIN is a legend.. To be fair, he makes great art that some of you never get to see.. Cartrain retrospective, you are all curators..
are you still his "manager" ?
CARTRAIN is a legend.. To be fair, he makes great art that some of you never get to see.. Cartrain retrospective, you are all curators.. are you still his "manager" ? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Trevorm on Feb 15, 2012 16:20:40 GMT 1, And mentor
And mentor
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. Still a load of tosh.
