thats me on that pic , also i probably do actually smell of wee.... sorry bout that .

And don't think that by adding big words into your title you appear to be more clever than you are, or that by hinting that your artwork has some bigger hidden deeper meaning that you can get away with trying to sell sub-standard art at over inflated prices. It hasn't worked, and it will not work. The only person you are fooling is yourself. You clearly believe your own hype.

So in the words of Duncan Bannatyne "I won't be investing, and I'm out".

And then we'll remember exactly why when we look at the stuff that was available to buy at massively inflated prices with minimal artistic quality.

Publicity only works if you've actually got something original to say.

;D ;D ;D ;D

angel41 - you have won... comment of the day.

Funny- !!! but talking about her, regardless of whether its good or bad, is still talkin' about her. This +/- publicity still raises her stock value, and in her field that sort of thing gets people buying magazines. The more they sell, the more they pay dear old Jade to be in the mags.

Its works the same for Mr. Cartrain. The only thing he needs to do is find his winning fomula; when he crosses over into the mainstream and off and running you'll be sayin' WHY WHY WHY!

The Mushroom's are a sh!t image- that can been seen, but he's got the beef with Hurst now which is muddying his ideas AND maybe he views it as his 'in' to the mainstream? Would like to know your thought on that Mr. Cartrain...

I looks like an old ZX Spectrum game I used to play - Golf I think. or the skiing one -long time ago!


I am interested though, in the techinque he used and the UV paint? what is that?

im not going to lie, i just saw this artwork at the art fair...not by cartrain

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I bought a piece by Angel 41 and it was rubbish. Opened the package, looked at it and hated it. Put it back in the package and straight into the loft. I thought Cartrain was amateurish until I saw this. Jade Goody's ass would have been a lot better.

Assuming that your not insane or being sarcastic, how do you arrive at this assertion?

As for marking your words, I think not. However I am interested in whether you truly believe in them and if so, are you now hoovering up this sub standard tosh?

just when you thought this forum couldnt get any lower - 2 artists now trading insults.

Why dont you 2 have a spray off - best stencil wins, both have to be original pieces, and no ripping of other artists works

True. In my defense it looked better in the photo. The perils of buying online.

Sorry to keep this tedious thread alive

Goffy, in my defence I've never heard anything about this until now in this thread. I'm sorry you were dissapointed with your purchase and would be more than happy to privately organise some kind of refund.

99.9% of the people I have dealt with have been really happy with their purchases, so maybe just once I got it wrong.

Just PM me your name, paypal email, name of painting and how much you would like to be refunded, because I don't actually know who you are, and I will be more than happy to negotiate.

I have complete respect for people who part with their cash for my work, even one's that publicly attempt to drag me down.

Cheers

a

By all means slag me off Goffy you do have the right but I still have the right to defend myself as it was all a bit cloak and daggers. I don't mind people having a go, it is a forum after all, but I prefer to know what people are having a go at.

Now I know what you are talking about maybe we can draw a line underneath it. Like I said before I would be more than happy to offer a refund and wouldn't expect you to send it back. After all it's around 18 months old. Maybe I did make a mistake with this piece and I will learn from it. I can only apologise for your dissapointment.

No hard feelings eh. If you change your mind regarding refund PM me.

Cheers

a

www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/4155892.LEYTONSTONE__Maverick_artists_help_pay_Cartrain_s_Hirst_debt/

LEYTONSTONE: Maverick artists help pay Cartrain's Hirst debt

11:20am Thursday 26th February 2009

A GROUP of artists have raised money for a Leytonstone teenager who was threatened with legal action by Damien Hirst – by selling their own works which parody Hirst’s art.

The Brit Art pioneer threatened to sue 17-year-old graffiti artist Cartrain over an unauthorised use of his iconic work, For the Love of God.

Cartrain, who styles himself on Banksy, incorporated pictures of Mr Hirst’s famous diamond-encrusted skull sculpture, into a series of his collages. He later settled out of court and paid Mr Hirst £200.

Now a group of artists called Red Rag To A Bull, who campaign against heavy-handed copyright control, have created their own art works based on Mr Hirst’s sculpture, and have sold copies of them online.

The sales of the works have raised £200, which they have handed back in “compensation” to Cartrain.

James Cauty, a former member of legendary 1980s pop duo The KLF and also known for later burning £1m with the K Foundation, was at the forefront of the artists’ exercise.

He said: “I just think lawyers should not be involved in the creative process.

“What Cartrain was doing is something that all artists have done.

“He fancied using a bit of Damien Hirst’s work but added to it himself. If it was a case of simply bootlegging Mr Hirst’s work then it would be different.”

Cartrain, who has never revealed his true identity, said: “James Cauty inspired me to become an artist along with Banksy – I am amazed he would want to help me out."

Red Rag To A Bull says the creation and sales of the works were not intended as a crusade against Mr Hurst, but were intended as a “creative exercise” to mock the “overbearing, thoughtless approach to copyright control.”

Other members of Red Rag To A Bull include punk album designer Jamie Reid and artists Billy Childish and John LeKay.