I guess it could be worth alot more if say it's used to wrap a Banksy as a present for someone?

Yes and whilst you hold your preconceived ideas about what art is and what art is not you'll always make the same naive uninformed chooses think small and stay safe
i see i've become some kind of lightning rod for your anxieties,

Good luck with the parking tickets

Keep sending Silky the checks kid. I have a strong feeling my receipts for those parking tickets will be a better investment then the trash you try to pass off under the guise of art. Just because you can get a red star here does not mean you have the ability to create 'art' no matter how good or bad it is. They aren't laughing with you, they are laughing at you.

crap... again...

Comon, dont hold back, tell us what you really think.

but i do agree with cartrain.

I dun see why people would pay 450 for grafters work either.

Its funny to watch a massively inflated ego try and bash another artist that is popular on this forum..... Cheap shot douche bag.

Each spot is a counter for £1 million ... all those dots mean its worth millions

True or maybe an exercise in being removed from the process:

"The idea of the spot paintings were that they’re an endless series, so the idea of painting spots for the rest of my life, after I’d done five, was completely tedious. I could visualise the whole thing, so it then becomes a bind physically to get in there and paint it, when somebody else could do it just the same. I numbered all the colours and I numbered all the spaces and drew the spots out and said this is where they go. So I didn’t actually put the paint on the thing, which is what some people have a problem with. But then architects don’t build their own houses."

Do try to articulate your responses and put some substance into them next time. Cheap vulgar four letter name calling :Pis considered the refuge of the incompetent Try not to crack me up next time you might find it works in your favor ;D

I made some points regarding the way you have insulted your public earlier in the thread and your only response is to rock up and insult a fellow artist. Well I guess that just demonstrates your class (as in classiness, not council flat). At least you've made it clear what you're all about. Thanks.

As for Grafter, that's an interesting perspective you have CT. It's interesting because you've criticized someone for their preconceived notions about art and but a day later you've chosen to illustrate some of your own. We all have preconceptions of course. However it just so happens, I'd prefer to hang a "meaningless, substandard piece by an average sunday biscuit tin painter" on my wall over ANYTHING I've ever seen you offer up. And I hate to break it to you, but I'm pretty open-minded about what I consider to be art. Sadly a prerequisite in my actually buying it though, is that I have to think it's visually compelling or aesthetically pleasing in some way for me that's where most sunday biscuit tin painters have you beat hands down. (FYI, Grafter's art is cheaper than yours and better executed, as well as looking better. It's his humility and way in which he deals with people where you could learn a great deal from him. So maybe instead of trying to win arguments, you should listen to peoples' perspectives and give them some thought - unless, as I'm beginning to suspect, it's all just some big joke to you and you don't expect people to buy your art at all) And by the way, why do you assume his work is meaningless?

You're young and presumably doing something you love with your life and for that I admire you, but there'll be noone out there prepared to buy anything from you if you carry on with the crazy notion that your doing the world a favour by producing art, rather than the world doing you one by granting you the priviledge to make a living from it. I realise you may not care at this stage, but if you expect people to pay nigh on £500 for your art, you'll need to present yourself a little more respectfully, because the art really doesn't do the talking in your case imho - it just asks too many compromises from the audience, by which I mean, either it should look good, or the idea behind it should be interesting and clearly translated via the medium, however you normally fail on both counts imho. So as for "worth £450" in this case - you're having a laugh! Not only does the standard of your work, YET AGAIN, (IMO) take the mickey out of punters, but this time you're having a pop at them for speaking their minds too. How the f**k to you expect to make a living from your art carrying on like that? Get a grip!

Suits you down to the ground then ;D Sorry, I could not resist

£450?!s**t the bed! Is this another joke?

Have you seen what original artworks you can buy for that money from other artists?! Lots of good artists, with bagfuls of talent, who have been developing their style over the course of years.

Take a good long look around at some of the artists who contribute to this scene you so desperately want to be a part of. These are people who have actually developed their talent for years, slowly building a name for themselves by producing good art and some original thinking. Far better than riding on other people's coat tails to get noticed by media exposure rather than having any kind of talent as an artist. You did it with Banksy, and now you're doing it with Hirst. The joke is wearing thin.

Please, stop taking people for fools on this forum (and no, age isn't a valid excuse: if you're old enough to offer your stuff for sale, you should be a big enough man to take what people have to say), learn to take some criticism and get some humility.

PS did i articulate that response suitably enough?

Silky from you I would not have expected any less........