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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Sept 14, 2009 17:52:35 GMT 1, He just called you all pretentious toss pots and you like this loud mouth
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by robotbad on Sept 14, 2009 18:09:35 GMT 1, ' I sublimate many of my cravings which cannot be satisfied realistically through wishful thinking by the replacement of intelligent action' I wonder where he lifted that from? Because he obviously doesn't understand what it means.
' I sublimate many of my cravings which cannot be satisfied realistically through wishful thinking by the replacement of intelligent action' I wonder where he lifted that from? Because he obviously doesn't understand what it means. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by daz205 on Sept 14, 2009 19:21:05 GMT 1, Could it be his fathers words?
What was the outcome today?
Is there a new free cartrain print yet?
Have the pencils been sharpened as threatened?
So many questions, and for once nobody In cartrains camp speaking!
Could it be his fathers words?
What was the outcome today?
Is there a new free cartrain print yet?
Have the pencils been sharpened as threatened?
So many questions, and for once nobody In cartrains camp speaking!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by wizzy on Sept 14, 2009 19:35:46 GMT 1, To your questions 1 to 4 Daz the answer is I myself do not know, to question 5 maybe the people in the "Cartrain camp" have nothing new to say and feel that reiterating old remarks and posts isnt really worthwhile?.
To your questions 1 to 4 Daz the answer is I myself do not know, to question 5 maybe the people in the "Cartrain camp" have nothing new to say and feel that reiterating old remarks and posts isnt really worthwhile?.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Cedric Mnich on Sept 14, 2009 21:21:50 GMT 1, Taken from Cartrain's FB :
Damien Cartrain Hirst Still on bail :-( I have been told today they will probably drop the charges ! but ive got to wait four weeks to find out Thanks to everyone for their support
Il y a 3 heures Β· Commenter Β· J'aime / Je n'aime plus Β· Afficher le feedback (5)Masquer le feedback (5)
Hattie Batten
Hattie Batten
are you in prison?
Il y a 2 heures
Damien Cartrain Hirst
Damien Cartrain Hirst
Thank god im not.. Thats not a nice place :S
Il y a 2 heures
Hattie Batten
Hattie Batten
have you ever met damien?
Il y a 2 heures
Damien Cartrain Hirst
Damien Cartrain Hirst
not yet :-(
Would love to meet the guy.. He still has my artwork :-(
Taken from Cartrain's FB :
Damien Cartrain Hirst Still on bail :-( I have been told today they will probably drop the charges ! but ive got to wait four weeks to find out Thanks to everyone for their support
Il y a 3 heures Β· Commenter Β· J'aime / Je n'aime plus Β· Afficher le feedback (5)Masquer le feedback (5)
Hattie Batten
Hattie Batten
are you in prison?
Il y a 2 heures
Damien Cartrain Hirst
Damien Cartrain Hirst
Thank god im not.. Thats not a nice place :S
Il y a 2 heures
Hattie Batten
Hattie Batten
have you ever met damien?
Il y a 2 heures
Damien Cartrain Hirst
Damien Cartrain Hirst
not yet :-(
Would love to meet the guy.. He still has my artwork :-(
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by thegreatarchitect on Sept 14, 2009 22:15:42 GMT 1, [quote author=fishsoup2 board=general thread=37766 post=565113 time=125293966
Along side that, there should be serious questions towards those that are close to him and offering the benefit of more experience.
Although you've not actually done anything wrong here Silky, it's pretty clear that you have a relationship with Cartrain and as such should probably have taken some responsibility in trying to offer him some sensible advice. Not to mention his shambles of a gallery, what were you lot doing?
'bless him he's just a kid...' actually he's just a bit of a nause.[/quote]
Where is it written that any of us are responsible for the actions or inclinations of others. For you to make such ill informed accusations and direct them at other members on this forum shows your lack of understanding around the giving of advice or the knowledge others had prior to the Cartrain prank. Would you take my advice if i were to say Go home and give that some thought. I suspect not
[quote author=fishsoup2 board=general thread=37766 post=565113 time=125293966
Along side that, there should be serious questions towards those that are close to him and offering the benefit of more experience.
Although you've not actually done anything wrong here Silky, it's pretty clear that you have a relationship with Cartrain and as such should probably have taken some responsibility in trying to offer him some sensible advice. Not to mention his shambles of a gallery, what were you lot doing?
'bless him he's just a kid...' actually he's just a bit of a nause.[/quote]
Where is it written that any of us are responsible for the actions or inclinations of others. For you to make such ill informed accusations and direct them at other members on this forum shows your lack of understanding around the giving of advice or the knowledge others had prior to the Cartrain prank. Would you take my advice if i were to say Go home and give that some thought. I suspect not
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Adamski on Sept 15, 2009 11:06:41 GMT 1, ' I sublimate many of my cravings which cannot be satisfied realistically through wishful thinking by the replacement of intelligent action' I wonder where he lifted that from? Because he obviously doesn't understand what it means. It was copied parrot fashion from a book on Spanish Cinema. I have no idea of the context he used it in though, so it may well have made more sense than in the quoted reference, although probably not. And to TGA, you're right, Silky only has responsibility to himself, who he chooses to offer advice to is fully up to him. You're point about circumstances leading up to the 'prank' is irrelevant though. And for the record, regardless of the fact I'm not his biggest fan, I hope Cartrain comes out of this OK, and hopefully surrounds himself with people who are going to help him rather than cash in on him.
' I sublimate many of my cravings which cannot be satisfied realistically through wishful thinking by the replacement of intelligent action' I wonder where he lifted that from? Because he obviously doesn't understand what it means. It was copied parrot fashion from a book on Spanish Cinema. I have no idea of the context he used it in though, so it may well have made more sense than in the quoted reference, although probably not. And to TGA, you're right, Silky only has responsibility to himself, who he chooses to offer advice to is fully up to him. You're point about circumstances leading up to the 'prank' is irrelevant though. And for the record, regardless of the fact I'm not his biggest fan, I hope Cartrain comes out of this OK, and hopefully surrounds himself with people who are going to help him rather than cash in on him. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by daz205 on Sept 15, 2009 13:33:52 GMT 1, i guess that would mean a change of priorities for cartrain, he would have to want to further his art and not just line his pockets with cash
i guess that would mean a change of priorities for cartrain, he would have to want to further his art and not just line his pockets with cash
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by thegreatarchitect on Sept 15, 2009 19:28:06 GMT 1, I wonder where he lifted that from? Because he obviously doesn't understand what it means. It was copied parrot fashion from a book on Spanish Cinema. I have no idea of the context he used it in though, so it may well have made more sense than in the quoted reference, although probably not. To lift it from a book on the Spanish Cinema just shows a greater diversity to his intelligence and as for the '' Bit thick bit'' Johnathan Johns doesn't think so... www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2009/sep/15/damien-hirst-portrait-cartrain
I wonder where he lifted that from? Because he obviously doesn't understand what it means. It was copied parrot fashion from a book on Spanish Cinema. I have no idea of the context he used it in though, so it may well have made more sense than in the quoted reference, although probably not. To lift it from a book on the Spanish Cinema just shows a greater diversity to his intelligence and as for the '' Bit thick bit'' Johnathan Johns doesn't think so... www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2009/sep/15/damien-hirst-portrait-cartrain |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by daz205 on Sept 15, 2009 23:28:19 GMT 1, Must admit I quite like the piece in the link above.
Must admit I quite like the piece in the link above.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Cedric Mnich on Sept 16, 2009 9:24:35 GMT 1, Yes that piece is much more creative than the others. And given the context, quite humourous !
This is exactly what I expect from Cartrain : a maturation of his art as he grows up, with itching / provocative. But he'll need to part with the Hirst stuff soon or later... Looking forward to see other stuff than copycatting
Yes that piece is much more creative than the others. And given the context, quite humourous !
This is exactly what I expect from Cartrain : a maturation of his art as he grows up, with itching / provocative. But he'll need to part with the Hirst stuff soon or later... Looking forward to see other stuff than copycatting
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by pingo on Sept 16, 2009 11:02:06 GMT 1, I think this is funny! I bagged one of the missing pencils print from 100artwork today. Not a good print (not even a print, it is a A4 inkjet print), but I love the fact that Hirst is pissed off, and that Cartrain got a huge lawsuit on his hands because of it. I have to smile when I think of it 
This is provocative, amusing, and I love it! Lovely prank!
I think this is funny! I bagged one of the missing pencils print from 100artwork today. Not a good print (not even a print, it is a A4 inkjet print), but I love the fact that Hirst is pissed off, and that Cartrain got a huge lawsuit on his hands because of it. I have to smile when I think of it This is provocative, amusing, and I love it! Lovely prank! |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by nex on Sept 16, 2009 11:03:42 GMT 1, give it a rest GA your rhetoric is tiresome to say the least
give it a rest GA your rhetoric is tiresome to say the least |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 16, 2009 11:07:20 GMT 1, Sorry to say it pingo , but its a waste of cash they look rubbish , rubbish rubbish , Should had just saved the jpeg and printed it yourself ,,, simplesss
Sorry to say it pingo , but its a waste of cash they look rubbish , rubbish rubbish , Should had just saved the jpeg and printed it yourself ,,, simplesss
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by pingo on Sept 16, 2009 11:34:35 GMT 1, Yes, I could print it myself, but it is not the same.. I can even download a hig resolution banksy, print it on my very good printer, and put it on the wall.. but i won't
It has nothing to do with how they look..
I buy the concept, not the print itself..
Yes, I could print it myself, but it is not the same.. I can even download a hig resolution banksy, print it on my very good printer, and put it on the wall.. but i won't
It has nothing to do with how they look..
I buy the concept, not the print itself..
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 16, 2009 11:56:25 GMT 1, Yes, I could print it myself, but it is not the same.. I can even download a hig resolution banksy, print it on my very good printer, and put it on the wall.. but i won't It has nothing to do with how they look.. I buy the concept, not the print itself..
Can you print banksy out , thats cool ill do that then to save money ,also maybe able to put these images onto cups t shirts maybe even a canvas and sell it on ebay, my point was that there is no differnce and it looks shite too. io well presonall preference a.
Ive also got some good concepts im happy to sell to you if you like , these have not been realised yet but that shouldnt matter if you buy the concept and not the art?. I can send via email or hand written , hand written though will bump up the cost ,
Yes, I could print it myself, but it is not the same.. I can even download a hig resolution banksy, print it on my very good printer, and put it on the wall.. but i won't It has nothing to do with how they look.. I buy the concept, not the print itself.. Can you print banksy out , thats cool ill do that then to save money ,also maybe able to put these images onto cups t shirts maybe even a canvas and sell it on ebay, my point was that there is no differnce and it looks shite too. io well presonall preference a. Ive also got some good concepts im happy to sell to you if you like , these have not been realised yet but that shouldnt matter if you buy the concept and not the art?. I can send via email or hand written , hand written though will bump up the cost , |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Sept 16, 2009 12:12:39 GMT 1, C'mon Bazz give us all a sneak preview of one of your concepts. Wouldn't be a Fishtrike by any chance would it?
C'mon Bazz give us all a sneak preview of one of your concepts. Wouldn't be a Fishtrike by any chance would it?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 16, 2009 12:20:15 GMT 1, C'mon Bazz give us all a sneak preview of one of your concepts. Wouldn't be a Fishtrike by any chance would it?
Thats an idea , one of the onees im thinking about at the moment though are Pornshoes, yes pornshoes, shoes covered in porn ?
C'mon Bazz give us all a sneak preview of one of your concepts. Wouldn't be a Fishtrike by any chance would it? Thats an idea , one of the onees im thinking about at the moment though are Pornshoes, yes pornshoes, shoes covered in porn ? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by wizzy on Sept 16, 2009 12:37:53 GMT 1, If you do any Film Noir underpants or Jazz socks count me in.
If you do any Film Noir underpants or Jazz socks count me in.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Sept 16, 2009 12:39:36 GMT 1, Porn Shoes eh? Like a type of rip off of Jonathan Yeo? Another little pilcher in the mix !! Maybe you could team up with Cartrain?
Porn Shoes eh? Like a type of rip off of Jonathan Yeo? Another little pilcher in the mix !! Maybe you could team up with Cartrain?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 16, 2009 12:49:35 GMT 1, Ooo Jazz socks now your talking
No not a rip of my imagesare going to be of a full person rather than a close up of lady parts ,, Trust next Nikes out will be porn edition , Thinking only in high tops though ,
Ooo Jazz socks now your talking
No not a rip of my imagesare going to be of a full person rather than a close up of lady parts ,, Trust next Nikes out will be porn edition , Thinking only in high tops though ,
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by wizzy on Sept 16, 2009 12:53:01 GMT 1, The socks could play a tune as you walk which gets faster as you walk faster until you are positively dancing in the street whereas the Film Noir underpants would enable the wearer to watch his favourite classic via an open fly whilst on the train / driving or wherever.
The socks could play a tune as you walk which gets faster as you walk faster until you are positively dancing in the street whereas the Film Noir underpants would enable the wearer to watch his favourite classic via an open fly whilst on the train / driving or wherever.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 16, 2009 13:06:48 GMT 1, The socks could play a tune as you walk which gets faster as you walk faster until you are positively dancing in the street whereas the Film Noir underpants would enable the wearer to watch his favourite classic via an open fly whilst on the train / driving or wherever.
Now im liking your thinking there, im thinking different styles of trainers or shoes , to reflect different types of music,
Im thinking a few eexamples prehaps.
classic brogues = Classical?
Old Skool Reebok classics = 90's Garage?
Hi Tops= Hip Hop?
suggestions welcolm
As for the Noir underpants genious , with a simple un-zip or button of a fly get a little watch of your favorite film, For some reason though i keep thinking its going to be very large dirty looking men sitting on trains watching these, with a Mc D's in hand and a very large coke. i said coke...
The socks could play a tune as you walk which gets faster as you walk faster until you are positively dancing in the street whereas the Film Noir underpants would enable the wearer to watch his favourite classic via an open fly whilst on the train / driving or wherever. Now im liking your thinking there, im thinking different styles of trainers or shoes , to reflect different types of music, Im thinking a few eexamples prehaps. classic brogues = Classical? Old Skool Reebok classics = 90's Garage? Hi Tops= Hip Hop? suggestions welcolm As for the Noir underpants genious , with a simple un-zip or button of a fly get a little watch of your favorite film, For some reason though i keep thinking its going to be very large dirty looking men sitting on trains watching these, with a Mc D's in hand and a very large coke. i said coke... |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by wizzy on Sept 16, 2009 13:19:26 GMT 1, How about Oxfords? anyhow size 11 please (and 34 waist for the skidoodles with plenty of room on the dancefloor thank you Bazz).
How about Oxfords? anyhow size 11 please (and 34 waist for the skidoodles with plenty of room on the dancefloor thank you Bazz).
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 16, 2009 13:23:11 GMT 1, Im all over it Wiz
Im all over it Wiz
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by thegreatarchitect on Sept 16, 2009 13:35:25 GMT 1, give it a rest GA your rhetoric is tiresome to say the least Yes SIR, absolutely SIR, what ever you say SIR, Yes SIR, Swear down SIR
give it a rest GA your rhetoric is tiresome to say the least Yes SIR, absolutely SIR, what ever you say SIR, Yes SIR, Swear down SIR |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Cedric Mnich on Sept 16, 2009 14:45:36 GMT 1, I "toadally" agree with Bingo here. Like I said I bought a Ransom print as well and just like him I bought a concept, a physical trace of the Cartrain / Hirst Feud. Of course it could be printed by oneself but what gives it potential value is the fact it is the signed and numbered limited edition. Nobody cares about a copy of it. The potential value is given by the pencil signature (COA). I did not buy the print to hang it in my house. If you don't understand this you have missed something about what gives Art some monetary value. And you may have very good (even better) concepts but if none gets some sort of publicity, they are worthless. Sad, but true.
When Warhol sold his first Campbell soups screenprints, you could easily copy them as well. But those which are worth a few thousands dollars now are not the cheap posters you can find at WArhol museum, it's the genuine signed ones of course.
Do you think Art investors/collectors buy art for the Art depicted ? Nah. Most of them buy a name/signature. I'm pretty sure most of them really care about the aesthetical value (if any) of the art. Some Klein's paintings are a simple blue. They are worth millions. He had the concept of his own color IKB. That as simple as that. Basquiat was selling postcards for a buck or two in the street. I wonder how much is valued one of these today...
I bet that in a few years, IF Cartrain becomes a recognized artist, the most valuable pieces of art will be The first skull collage he made which was confiscated by Hirst AND the Ransom print.
And if I have to wait 20 years to sell my Cartrain Ransom cheap shitty print at Christie's, I will. It was only a 50pounds bet after all...
I "toadally" agree with Bingo here. Like I said I bought a Ransom print as well and just like him I bought a concept, a physical trace of the Cartrain / Hirst Feud. Of course it could be printed by oneself but what gives it potential value is the fact it is the signed and numbered limited edition. Nobody cares about a copy of it. The potential value is given by the pencil signature (COA). I did not buy the print to hang it in my house. If you don't understand this you have missed something about what gives Art some monetary value. And you may have very good (even better) concepts but if none gets some sort of publicity, they are worthless. Sad, but true.
When Warhol sold his first Campbell soups screenprints, you could easily copy them as well. But those which are worth a few thousands dollars now are not the cheap posters you can find at WArhol museum, it's the genuine signed ones of course.
Do you think Art investors/collectors buy art for the Art depicted ? Nah. Most of them buy a name/signature. I'm pretty sure most of them really care about the aesthetical value (if any) of the art. Some Klein's paintings are a simple blue. They are worth millions. He had the concept of his own color IKB. That as simple as that. Basquiat was selling postcards for a buck or two in the street. I wonder how much is valued one of these today...
I bet that in a few years, IF Cartrain becomes a recognized artist, the most valuable pieces of art will be The first skull collage he made which was confiscated by Hirst AND the Ransom print.
And if I have to wait 20 years to sell my Cartrain Ransom cheap shitty print at Christie's, I will. It was only a 50pounds bet after all...
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Daniel Silk on Sept 16, 2009 14:49:22 GMT 1, I hear the BBC have interviewed Cartrain, but I dont think its been aired yet.
I hear the BBC have interviewed Cartrain, but I dont think its been aired yet.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Cedric Mnich on Sept 16, 2009 15:00:07 GMT 1, THe BBC link was to be published on Cartrain's FB page... have to check there.
THe BBC link was to be published on Cartrain's FB page... have to check there.
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