Montubu7
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Montubu7 on Apr 5, 2008 23:01:31 GMT 1, R - If you are pm'ing sneak previews of the next one I'm in.
N' me please!
You have my addy
cheers
R - If you are pm'ing sneak previews of the next one I'm in. N' me please! You have my addy cheers
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Guy Denning
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Guy Denning on Apr 5, 2008 23:40:55 GMT 1, On a related subject VanDal. Have you ever seen this? 'Patriots' by Peter Howson...
On a related subject VanDal. Have you ever seen this? 'Patriots' by Peter Howson...
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scavos
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by scavos on Apr 6, 2008 1:07:43 GMT 1, Powerful image VanDal. I look forward to seeing the full series. Suggested Title - 'Our Souls' (sic)
Powerful image VanDal. I look forward to seeing the full series. Suggested Title - 'Our Souls' (sic)
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 6, 2008 10:28:53 GMT 1, Hey Rourke .. Origins of skinhead culture were much more linked to multi-racial Working Class unity. It was more about the music reggae, ska, northern soul being part of that culture or spring offs from it. All well and good but this is not the image of a multicultural skinhead and the union jack was never about a multicultural message either. This is the sort of c**t who stabbed my mate with a screwdriver because of the colour of his skin. I'm truely sorry about your mate. When I did this image, I knew some people were bound to get a negative message from it, and I knew I couldnt help this. All I can say is that when I created this image it was never meant to be a pro-racist image in anyway. More a true life image. If something is wrong that goes on in society, doesnt mean artists can't paint about it, and bring it to peoples attention This image has no title at the moment, and this is intentional. The full series of images will show more on the culture aspect. Why isn't a Union Jack Multicultural? I put a union jack on this image as I do on others. Is this wrong? When I was at school in Bradford, twenty odd years ago. Racism was rife, nothing as changed its still rife, and that is wrong. My eldest son Zach, is mixed race, and has to deal with racism on a daily basis in his school, I am in no way racist of condone racisisim in any way as this is something myself and my family have to deal with. I am sorry if my image offended you.
Hey Rourke .. Origins of skinhead culture were much more linked to multi-racial Working Class unity. It was more about the music reggae, ska, northern soul being part of that culture or spring offs from it. All well and good but this is not the image of a multicultural skinhead and the union jack was never about a multicultural message either. This is the sort of c**t who stabbed my mate with a screwdriver because of the colour of his skin. I'm truely sorry about your mate. When I did this image, I knew some people were bound to get a negative message from it, and I knew I couldnt help this. All I can say is that when I created this image it was never meant to be a pro-racist image in anyway. More a true life image. If something is wrong that goes on in society, doesnt mean artists can't paint about it, and bring it to peoples attention This image has no title at the moment, and this is intentional. The full series of images will show more on the culture aspect. Why isn't a Union Jack Multicultural? I put a union jack on this image as I do on others. Is this wrong? When I was at school in Bradford, twenty odd years ago. Racism was rife, nothing as changed its still rife, and that is wrong. My eldest son Zach, is mixed race, and has to deal with racism on a daily basis in his school, I am in no way racist of condone racisisim in any way as this is something myself and my family have to deal with. I am sorry if my image offended you.
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kingleopald
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by kingleopald on Apr 6, 2008 14:41:57 GMT 1, Fair play VanDal. Cheers for your response.
Obviously an emotive topic for me. The whole skins thing scares me a bit because all the horrible negative shit that went with the movement in the 70's/80's is in danger of getting glossed over in the process. The extremist attitude wasn't the exception, it was the norm.
As for the use of the flag, I totally agree with you that the union jack can be used as an image of multiculture, but we are talking about different flags - then and now.... That's what I meant about the union jack in the context of this image. In the 70's/80's a skin with a UJ WAS a rascist statement.
I could have just written another 'great image' plaudit, but outside this forum of art heads that's an image that still has negative connotations that have affected people's lives . You're right, art is all about using strong images, but by not titling it, IMO you're in danger of risking glorifying what was basically a bunch of fucking thugs running round the streets spreading terror.
Fair play VanDal. Cheers for your response.
Obviously an emotive topic for me. The whole skins thing scares me a bit because all the horrible negative shit that went with the movement in the 70's/80's is in danger of getting glossed over in the process. The extremist attitude wasn't the exception, it was the norm.
As for the use of the flag, I totally agree with you that the union jack can be used as an image of multiculture, but we are talking about different flags - then and now.... That's what I meant about the union jack in the context of this image. In the 70's/80's a skin with a UJ WAS a rascist statement.
I could have just written another 'great image' plaudit, but outside this forum of art heads that's an image that still has negative connotations that have affected people's lives . You're right, art is all about using strong images, but by not titling it, IMO you're in danger of risking glorifying what was basically a bunch of fucking thugs running round the streets spreading terror.
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 6, 2008 20:26:21 GMT 1, Cheers kingleopald, Totally understand exactly what your saying mate and really appreciate your opinion and veiws. I will give it alot of thought.
Thankyou
Cheers kingleopald, Totally understand exactly what your saying mate and really appreciate your opinion and veiws. I will give it alot of thought. Thankyou
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kingleopald
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by kingleopald on Apr 6, 2008 22:25:20 GMT 1, mate, I probably should've seen the whole set before goin off on one. good luck with the rest of the series...
mate, I probably should've seen the whole set before goin off on one. good luck with the rest of the series...
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 7, 2008 8:52:27 GMT 1, Cheers kingleopald, scavos, Guy, transform-a-snack and Top am gonna Crack on with new one this week.
Cheers kingleopald, scavos, Guy, transform-a-snack and Top am gonna Crack on with new one this week.
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 10, 2008 15:39:20 GMT 1, 'Last bus home' is now Sold out
Cheers
'Last bus home' is now Sold out
Cheers
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julian
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by julian on Apr 19, 2008 19:43:24 GMT 1, last bus home and cor tina, great images:)
last bus home and cor tina, great images:)
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 20, 2008 13:23:02 GMT 1, Thought I would give you a glimpse of new paint in Skins Collection. Will post more as I do them. Let us know what you think, so far. Cheers
Background, collage of newspapers then finished with watercolour and acrylic.
First stencil, sprayed in 2 colours
Thought I would give you a glimpse of new paint in Skins Collection. Will post more as I do them. Let us know what you think, so far. Cheers Background, collage of newspapers then finished with watercolour and acrylic. First stencil, sprayed in 2 colours
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by manchestermike on Apr 20, 2008 13:32:05 GMT 1, Very nice that Rourke, like it a lot
Very nice that Rourke, like it a lot
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dmandpenfold
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by dmandpenfold on Apr 20, 2008 13:34:34 GMT 1, great work, really like the use of the backgorund newspapers
great work, really like the use of the backgorund newspapers
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Joe J
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Joe J on Apr 20, 2008 13:37:31 GMT 1, Nice Rourke mate. I thinks its amazing, a reversed stencil! Is the newspaper prints pre-selected for story content, does it relate to the stencil in anyway?
Nice Rourke mate. I thinks its amazing, a reversed stencil! Is the newspaper prints pre-selected for story content, does it relate to the stencil in anyway?
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goffy
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by goffy on Apr 20, 2008 17:44:19 GMT 1, One of the few people who post on here that has genuine talent.
One of the few people who post on here that has genuine talent.
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pramface
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by pramface on Apr 20, 2008 18:35:00 GMT 1, wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure
but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid
wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure
but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid
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Maxie
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Maxie on Apr 20, 2008 19:04:43 GMT 1, i like it - its different
i like it - its different
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GVD
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by GVD on Apr 20, 2008 19:21:09 GMT 1, Awesome, very clever!
Great use of a reverse stencil.
Awesome, very clever!
Great use of a reverse stencil.
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cheeky007
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by cheeky007 on Apr 20, 2008 19:35:09 GMT 1, wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid
Do you ever say anything positive? It seems to me that all you do on this board is try and get on peoples tits.
Great piece, Vandal
wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid Do you ever say anything positive? It seems to me that all you do on this board is try and get on peoples tits. Great piece, Vandal
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 20, 2008 20:11:33 GMT 1, Very nice that Rourke, like it a lot
Cheers Mike, appreciate it mate
Thanks dmandpenfold
Very nice that Rourke, like it a lot Cheers Mike, appreciate it mate Thanks dmandpenfold
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pramface
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by pramface on Apr 20, 2008 20:19:20 GMT 1, wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid Do you ever say anything positive? It seems to me that all you do on this board is try and get on peoples tits. Great piece, Vandal
charming.
can't even be reasonably positive without getting it in the neck
price dependent, this would be an OK piece of art. does my non-arse kissing offend you cheeky?
wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid Do you ever say anything positive? It seems to me that all you do on this board is try and get on peoples tits. Great piece, Vandal charming. can't even be reasonably positive without getting it in the neck price dependent, this would be an OK piece of art. does my non-arse kissing offend you cheeky?
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 20, 2008 20:23:06 GMT 1, really like it, great work. would be better if it was called Paper Boy and not Lad?
killerkellah thanks for your imput mate, I was gonna call it paper boy, but I thought it was a bit predictable. I have always referred to them as 'Paper lad', it might be a bit of a northern thing
Cheers
really like it, great work. would be better if it was called Paper Boy and not Lad? killerkellah thanks for your imput mate, I was gonna call it paper boy, but I thought it was a bit predictable. I have always referred to them as 'Paper lad', it might be a bit of a northern thing Cheers
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 20, 2008 20:27:04 GMT 1, wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid
It will be a bit more than 25quid, as there is about 40 hours in it as it stands, and still a bit more to go.
wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid It will be a bit more than 25quid, as there is about 40 hours in it as it stands, and still a bit more to go.
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pramface
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by pramface on Apr 20, 2008 20:31:37 GMT 1, wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid It will be a bit more than 25quid, as there is about 40 hours in it as it stands, and still a bit more to go.
ok perhaps an exaggeration
but still good value art for ยฃ50-70ish
wouldn't get space on my wall thats for sure but not a bad buy if it's about 25 quid It will be a bit more than 25quid, as there is about 40 hours in it as it stands, and still a bit more to go. ok perhaps an exaggeration but still good value art for ยฃ50-70ish
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 20, 2008 20:38:47 GMT 1, Nice Rourke mate. I thinks its amazing, a reversed stencil! Is the newspaper prints pre-selected for story content, does it relate to the stencil in anyway?
Alright Joe,
I tried to pick out certain Headlines, and stories about working, money, families from a local paper. Hopefully am going try and get it done for next weekend or well on the way to finishing it. Got to paint over the Grey Spraypaint with Watercolour and acrylic paint to knock it back into the background, then there is still the white stencil and the black stencil to finish it off.
Thanks mate
Nice Rourke mate. I thinks its amazing, a reversed stencil! Is the newspaper prints pre-selected for story content, does it relate to the stencil in anyway? Alright Joe, I tried to pick out certain Headlines, and stories about working, money, families from a local paper. Hopefully am going try and get it done for next weekend or well on the way to finishing it. Got to paint over the Grey Spraypaint with Watercolour and acrylic paint to knock it back into the background, then there is still the white stencil and the black stencil to finish it off. Thanks mate
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 20, 2008 20:42:55 GMT 1, last bus home and cor tina, great images:)
Cheers mate, I am on with a seperate gallery section of the website called 'Vandal Vault' in there will be a more of the Old prints.
Thanks again ;D
last bus home and cor tina, great images:) Cheers mate, I am on with a seperate gallery section of the website called 'Vandal Vault' in there will be a more of the Old prints. Thanks again ;D
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danny1
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by danny1 on Apr 20, 2008 21:26:24 GMT 1, looks like he had a hard paper round...
great work though.
Have seen paintings on old newpaper in a french market last year.
looks like he had a hard paper round...
great work though.
Have seen paintings on old newpaper in a french market last year.
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froz
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by froz on Apr 20, 2008 22:08:27 GMT 1, Love it, that is some amazing work how did you go about doing it?
Love it, that is some amazing work how did you go about doing it?
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froz
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by froz on Apr 20, 2008 22:12:32 GMT 1, Love it, that is some amazing work how did you go about doing it?
Ha nevermind, I just read the whole post
Great job!
Love it, that is some amazing work how did you go about doing it? Ha nevermind, I just read the whole post Great job!
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Rourke
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rourke on Apr 21, 2008 8:24:19 GMT 1, Thanks goffy, thedon and GVD, Im chuffed you like it
Thanks goffy, thedon and GVD, Im chuffed you like it
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