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EBay art from Tokyo , by dazzer1973 on Apr 29, 2012 22:01:26 GMT 1, Just won dolk winner seller is from Tokyo will I have to pay 20 percent vat customs
Just won dolk winner seller is from Tokyo will I have to pay 20 percent vat customs
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Art Fan 2011 on Apr 29, 2012 22:18:37 GMT 1, Just won dolk winner seller is from Tokyo will I have to pay 20 percent vat customs
You got it for a good price, however, yes you will be in for a bill from Mr Customs of 20% - approx ยฃ58 (unless the seller marks the true value down)
Just won dolk winner seller is from Tokyo will I have to pay 20 percent vat customs You got it for a good price, however, yes you will be in for a bill from Mr Customs of 20% - approx ยฃ58 (unless the seller marks the true value down)
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EBay art from Tokyo , by ivantankl on Apr 29, 2012 22:24:39 GMT 1, Good chance you will get taxed. Try asking the seller to mark as gift and value under ยฃ40. Some sellers don't mind. (just explain that tax here is 20%)
Good chance you will get taxed. Try asking the seller to mark as gift and value under ยฃ40. Some sellers don't mind. (just explain that tax here is 20%)
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EBay art from Tokyo , by ricobenfico on Apr 29, 2012 22:28:48 GMT 1, ^ but if it goes missing anywhere on transit, the seller will only get ยฃ40 back when he claims on insurance and I'm sure, wouldn't be giving you back the full amount you paid. If you ask the seller to do this, that would have to be your risk not the sellers.
^ but if it goes missing anywhere on transit, the seller will only get ยฃ40 back when he claims on insurance and I'm sure, wouldn't be giving you back the full amount you paid. If you ask the seller to do this, that would have to be your risk not the sellers.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by dazzer1973 on Apr 29, 2012 22:38:27 GMT 1, What is the duty if I send it to the usa
What is the duty if I send it to the usa
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Art Fan 2011 on Apr 29, 2012 22:39:01 GMT 1, ^ but if it goes missing anywhere on transit, the seller will only get ยฃ40 back when he claims on insurance and I'm sure, wouldn't be giving you back the full amount you paid. If you ask the seller to do this, that would have to be your risk not the sellers.
Wise words, hence why alot of sellers wont mark down the value. If I were you, id just pay Mr Customs, after all, when you add in that and the postage you still only paid about ยฃ360 for it, which is a fairly good price imo!
^ but if it goes missing anywhere on transit, the seller will only get ยฃ40 back when he claims on insurance and I'm sure, wouldn't be giving you back the full amount you paid. If you ask the seller to do this, that would have to be your risk not the sellers. Wise words, hence why alot of sellers wont mark down the value. If I were you, id just pay Mr Customs, after all, when you add in that and the postage you still only paid about ยฃ360 for it, which is a fairly good price imo!
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EBay art from Tokyo , by kenzler on Apr 29, 2012 23:41:37 GMT 1, I thought a screen print would be 5% not 20%
I thought a screen print would be 5% not 20%
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EBay art from Tokyo , by searchandrescue on Apr 29, 2012 23:48:06 GMT 1, yeah, best policy is to mark something at true value, unless its a low value item your not gonna be heart broken about not getting $$$$ back if it goes awol.
yeah, best policy is to mark something at true value, unless its a low value item your not gonna be heart broken about not getting $$$$ back if it goes awol.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 1:34:42 GMT 1, I recently sold to a UK buyer an Eine print, shipped from here in Japan at full value.
He got dinged about 20% VAT by the powers that be in the UK, which shocked me. Seems like money for nothing, not clear on precisely what "Value" anyone "Added". But I'm no political scientist.
Hope all that tax revenue is going to good causes...
I recently sold to a UK buyer an Eine print, shipped from here in Japan at full value.
He got dinged about 20% VAT by the powers that be in the UK, which shocked me. Seems like money for nothing, not clear on precisely what "Value" anyone "Added". But I'm no political scientist.
Hope all that tax revenue is going to good causes...
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EBay art from Tokyo , by kunstrasen on Apr 30, 2012 7:57:39 GMT 1, Always confused by this seller in Japan...he seems to have an endless stock of Dolk prints. Anyone else noticed that he sells often several numbers of the same print since months and months? In total he probably sold 30+ Dolk prints by now. Not saying that something must be wrong there, just never noticed anything similar like that before...
Always confused by this seller in Japan...he seems to have an endless stock of Dolk prints. Anyone else noticed that he sells often several numbers of the same print since months and months? In total he probably sold 30+ Dolk prints by now. Not saying that something must be wrong there, just never noticed anything similar like that before...
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 8:13:20 GMT 1, Additionally, I think that there might some issue around retrieving money which has been sent to Japan if a potential fraud is involved? Think that the law might be different that's all?
Lots of High St Banks are very careful when they are instructed to send money to Japan I think.
Additionally, I think that there might some issue around retrieving money which has been sent to Japan if a potential fraud is involved? Think that the law might be different that's all?
Lots of High St Banks are very careful when they are instructed to send money to Japan I think.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 8:17:09 GMT 1, Always confused by this seller in Japan...he seems to have an endless stock of Dolk prints. Anyone else noticed that he sells often several numbers of the same print since months and months? In total he probably sold 30+ Dolk prints by now. Not saying that something must be wrong there, just never noticed anything similar like that before...
To go on record...this endless-Dolk-seller is not me.
Always suspicious of those guys who have already sold 20 pairs of Di-Tenners and still have another stack available...in fact just checked one auction and the seller's other items are mainly color printer inks! Not proof positive of any shenanigans, but just saying...
Any link to the Tokyo auction? I'm curious, as sometimes I see the same print listed on eBay and here in Japan as well.
Always confused by this seller in Japan...he seems to have an endless stock of Dolk prints. Anyone else noticed that he sells often several numbers of the same print since months and months? In total he probably sold 30+ Dolk prints by now. Not saying that something must be wrong there, just never noticed anything similar like that before... To go on record...this endless-Dolk-seller is not me. Always suspicious of those guys who have already sold 20 pairs of Di-Tenners and still have another stack available...in fact just checked one auction and the seller's other items are mainly color printer inks! Not proof positive of any shenanigans, but just saying... Any link to the Tokyo auction? I'm curious, as sometimes I see the same print listed on eBay and here in Japan as well.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by gibbin82 on Apr 30, 2012 8:53:11 GMT 1, Just won dolk winner seller is from Tokyo will I have to pay 20 percent vat customs
You might not have to pay VAT at all many items slip through customs without the charges being added, you will have to cross your fingers on that one. Should it get held up and VAT added although you will have to pay it to get your print, you can claim back to majority as works of art are only 5% VAT, claiming back is.pain though. You. Best to write to them as they are impossible to contact by phone
If it is held up annoyingly you will have to pay a handling charge of ยฃ8 to Royal Mail this charge has to be paid but it's legality is questionable as really they have already been paid within the international postage
Just won dolk winner seller is from Tokyo will I have to pay 20 percent vat customs You might not have to pay VAT at all many items slip through customs without the charges being added, you will have to cross your fingers on that one. Should it get held up and VAT added although you will have to pay it to get your print, you can claim back to majority as works of art are only 5% VAT, claiming back is.pain though. You. Best to write to them as they are impossible to contact by phone If it is held up annoyingly you will have to pay a handling charge of ยฃ8 to Royal Mail this charge has to be paid but it's legality is questionable as really they have already been paid within the international postage
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EBay art from Tokyo , by jonti on Apr 30, 2012 9:46:56 GMT 1, What is this ebay sellers id ??
What is this ebay sellers id ??
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EBay art from Tokyo , by jonti on Apr 30, 2012 9:51:21 GMT 1, Just won dolk winner seller is from Tokyo will I have to pay 20 percent vat customs You might not have to pay VAT at all many items slip through customs without the charges being added, you will have to cross your fingers on that one. Should it get held up and VAT added although you will have to pay it to get your print, you can claim back to majority as works of art are only 5% VAT,
i may be wrong, but in my experience i think the 5% rate only applies to hand pulled/finished works of a low print run (under 10 at least) or OGs
there is a sticky thread all about VAT
Just won dolk winner seller is from Tokyo will I have to pay 20 percent vat customs You might not have to pay VAT at all many items slip through customs without the charges being added, you will have to cross your fingers on that one. Should it get held up and VAT added although you will have to pay it to get your print, you can claim back to majority as works of art are only 5% VAT, i may be wrong, but in my experience i think the 5% rate only applies to hand pulled/finished works of a low print run (under 10 at least) or OGs there is a sticky thread all about VAT
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EBay art from Tokyo , by fatscoundrel on Apr 30, 2012 10:04:22 GMT 1, I would be more concerned with authenticity and instead of worrying about VAT or customs would be thinking would it have been better to pay more and I know it is legit. That is just me.
I would be more concerned with authenticity and instead of worrying about VAT or customs would be thinking would it have been better to pay more and I know it is legit. That is just me.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by bigp on Apr 30, 2012 10:37:28 GMT 1, Hi The rate you will be charged is 20%.The rate you should be charged is 5% for all ltd ed art.
Ive just claimed back ยฃ75 in vat and it took best part of 3 months. so I asked how do I go about paying the correct 5% tax when I recieve prints in the future, the guy from the customs and excise told me to ,
Get the guy whos sending the print to state on the tube:
Comodity Code:9702000000 Reduced rated for VAT purposes(Ltd ed print)
I havent tried this yet as I have ordered anything outside the EU yet.But im told they should only charge you 5% vat.
Hi The rate you will be charged is 20%.The rate you should be charged is 5% for all ltd ed art.
Ive just claimed back ยฃ75 in vat and it took best part of 3 months. so I asked how do I go about paying the correct 5% tax when I recieve prints in the future, the guy from the customs and excise told me to ,
Get the guy whos sending the print to state on the tube:
Comodity Code:9702000000 Reduced rated for VAT purposes(Ltd ed print)
I havent tried this yet as I have ordered anything outside the EU yet.But im told they should only charge you 5% vat.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Rsyok on Apr 30, 2012 11:23:10 GMT 1, What is this ebay sellers id ?? Googooking, its feasible that he has mulitple copies of prints like boxer & winner. They sold out relatively slowly actually add prison painter to that. He has sold a lot of that Brainwash print tho.
The only experience I have of him is by selling a Beejoir LV to him no probs. Obviously to sell on to the Japanese market, so a dealer rather than a collector selling on.
@japandemic nice to someone on board from Japan do you know anyone in Tokyo if I ever need anything from Hidari Zingaro ; )?
What is this ebay sellers id ?? Googooking, its feasible that he has mulitple copies of prints like boxer & winner. They sold out relatively slowly actually add prison painter to that. He has sold a lot of that Brainwash print tho. The only experience I have of him is by selling a Beejoir LV to him no probs. Obviously to sell on to the Japanese market, so a dealer rather than a collector selling on. @japandemic nice to someone on board from Japan do you know anyone in Tokyo if I ever need anything from Hidari Zingaro ; )?
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EBay art from Tokyo , by jonti on Apr 30, 2012 11:23:52 GMT 1, they clas ltd edition art as numbers below about 10
they clas ltd edition art as numbers below about 10
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EBay art from Tokyo , by kunstrasen on Apr 30, 2012 11:35:31 GMT 1, What is this ebay sellers id ??
If it is the one I'm thinking of the sellers id is 'googooking'.
What is this ebay sellers id ?? If it is the one I'm thinking of the sellers id is 'googooking'.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by gibbin82 on Apr 30, 2012 11:48:10 GMT 1, they clas ltd edition art as numbers below about 10
I got a refund on a Mear One print that was an edition of 100, so they don't be too concerned with the edition number, they are right pain to deal with though take your money quickly enough but make it hard to get back what they aren't entitled to.
they clas ltd edition art as numbers below about 10 I got a refund on a Mear One print that was an edition of 100, so they don't be too concerned with the edition number, they are right pain to deal with though take your money quickly enough but make it hard to get back what they aren't entitled to.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by gibbin82 on Apr 30, 2012 11:51:22 GMT 1, But as said most things seem to go through without getting charged, so you could be lucky and not pay any VAT
But as said most things seem to go through without getting charged, so you could be lucky and not pay any VAT
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EBay art from Tokyo , by westley on Apr 30, 2012 12:16:44 GMT 1, get him to mark it as gallery loan retuned to owner.
get him to mark it as gallery loan retuned to owner.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 21:30:32 GMT 1, I was under the impression that 5% payable isn't down to the edition number - it's to do with the fact that artwork had been undertaken by hand. So all screens are 'in' but giclee's are officially 'out' of this payable duty.
I've always found that the people who pay the duty (Fed Ex etc) will refund the differential.
I was under the impression that 5% payable isn't down to the edition number - it's to do with the fact that artwork had been undertaken by hand. So all screens are 'in' but giclee's are officially 'out' of this payable duty.
I've always found that the people who pay the duty (Fed Ex etc) will refund the differential.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Deleted on May 1, 2012 2:47:49 GMT 1, What is this ebay sellers id ?? Googooking, its feasible that he has mulitple copies of prints like boxer & winner. They sold out relatively slowly actually add prison painter to that. He has sold a lot of that Brainwash print tho. The only experience I have of him is by selling a Beejoir LV to him no probs. Obviously to sell on to the Japanese market, so a dealer rather than a collector selling on. @japandemic nice to someone on board from Japan do you know anyone in Tokyo if I ever need anything from Hidari Zingaro ; )?
Seen the name GooGooKing around. There is a good gallery / seller here called NoiseKing. No idea if they are related...just going by the "King" bit actually! But he is a good guy, packages and ships well, and sells mainly Dolk, MBW, Static, had some Banksy a while back.
I am based in Kyoto / Osaka area...not so many Tokyo connections at the moment.
Had good dealings with Tomoko at Gallery Target Tokyo. She speaks English well, lived in NYC for some time. Helped me with a Japan Red LV Child, and some general art Q&A stuff. Seems a cool lady.
Had to Google Hidari Z. There's a Japanese artist--name escapes me, will post later--who uses traditional techniques to render really tight J Pop imagery, you might like.
Can't research name now, too busy watching...
For now, if you want to see some street level Japan as I see it...
www.japandemic.com
Cheers!
What is this ebay sellers id ?? Googooking, its feasible that he has mulitple copies of prints like boxer & winner. They sold out relatively slowly actually add prison painter to that. He has sold a lot of that Brainwash print tho. The only experience I have of him is by selling a Beejoir LV to him no probs. Obviously to sell on to the Japanese market, so a dealer rather than a collector selling on. @japandemic nice to someone on board from Japan do you know anyone in Tokyo if I ever need anything from Hidari Zingaro ; )? Seen the name GooGooKing around. There is a good gallery / seller here called NoiseKing. No idea if they are related...just going by the "King" bit actually! But he is a good guy, packages and ships well, and sells mainly Dolk, MBW, Static, had some Banksy a while back. I am based in Kyoto / Osaka area...not so many Tokyo connections at the moment. Had good dealings with Tomoko at Gallery Target Tokyo. She speaks English well, lived in NYC for some time. Helped me with a Japan Red LV Child, and some general art Q&A stuff. Seems a cool lady. Had to Google Hidari Z. There's a Japanese artist--name escapes me, will post later--who uses traditional techniques to render really tight J Pop imagery, you might like. Can't research name now, too busy watching... For now, if you want to see some street level Japan as I see it... www.japandemic.comCheers!
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EBay art from Tokyo , by jonti on May 1, 2012 8:53:37 GMT 1, I was under the impression that 5% payable isn't down to the edition number - it's to do with the fact that artwork had been undertaken by hand. So all screens are 'in' but giclee's are officially 'out' of this payable duty. I've always found that the people who pay the duty (Fed Ex etc) will refund the differential.
Yes i was told this also, but then added that they also had to be a small run.
It seems different people in the HMRC on different phones have different views on this. This doesnt surprise me
I was under the impression that 5% payable isn't down to the edition number - it's to do with the fact that artwork had been undertaken by hand. So all screens are 'in' but giclee's are officially 'out' of this payable duty. I've always found that the people who pay the duty (Fed Ex etc) will refund the differential. Yes i was told this also, but then added that they also had to be a small run. It seems different people in the HMRC on different phones have different views on this. This doesnt surprise me
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EBay art from Tokyo , by PUD on May 1, 2012 9:37:37 GMT 1, Hi The rate you will be charged is 20%.The rate you should be charged is 5% for all ltd ed art. Ive just claimed back ยฃ75 in vat and it took best part of 3 months. so I asked how do I go about paying the correct 5% tax when I recieve prints in the future, the guy from the customs and excise told me to , Get the guy whos sending the print to state on the tube: Comodity Code:9702000000 Reduced rated for VAT purposes(Ltd ed print) I havent tried this yet as I have ordered anything outside the EU yet.But im told they should only charge you 5% vat. Great piece of advice here that seems to have been overlooked by most on this thread. If indeed true it could save us all a small fortune!! +1
Hi The rate you will be charged is 20%.The rate you should be charged is 5% for all ltd ed art. Ive just claimed back ยฃ75 in vat and it took best part of 3 months. so I asked how do I go about paying the correct 5% tax when I recieve prints in the future, the guy from the customs and excise told me to , Get the guy whos sending the print to state on the tube: Comodity Code:9702000000 Reduced rated for VAT purposes(Ltd ed print) I havent tried this yet as I have ordered anything outside the EU yet.But im told they should only charge you 5% vat. Great piece of advice here that seems to have been overlooked by most on this thread. If indeed true it could save us all a small fortune!! +1
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EBay art from Tokyo , by Rsyok on May 1, 2012 10:18:19 GMT 1, Hi The rate you will be charged is 20%.The rate you should be charged is 5% for all ltd ed art. Ive just claimed back ยฃ75 in vat and it took best part of 3 months. so I asked how do I go about paying the correct 5% tax when I recieve prints in the future, the guy from the customs and excise told me to , Get the guy whos sending the print to state on the tube: Comodity Code:9702000000 Reduced rated for VAT purposes(Ltd ed print) I havent tried this yet as I have ordered anything outside the EU yet.But im told they should only charge you 5% vat. Great piece of advice here that seems to have been overlooked by most on this thread. If indeed true it could save us all a small fortune!! +1 Afraid Ive tried it and it didnt make any difference. Parcelforce just blanket charge everything 20% they dont care whats written on the tube (apart from the value). Worth another go mind.
Hi The rate you will be charged is 20%.The rate you should be charged is 5% for all ltd ed art. Ive just claimed back ยฃ75 in vat and it took best part of 3 months. so I asked how do I go about paying the correct 5% tax when I recieve prints in the future, the guy from the customs and excise told me to , Get the guy whos sending the print to state on the tube: Comodity Code:9702000000 Reduced rated for VAT purposes(Ltd ed print) I havent tried this yet as I have ordered anything outside the EU yet.But im told they should only charge you 5% vat. Great piece of advice here that seems to have been overlooked by most on this thread. If indeed true it could save us all a small fortune!! +1 Afraid Ive tried it and it didnt make any difference. Parcelforce just blanket charge everything 20% they dont care whats written on the tube (apart from the value). Worth another go mind.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by kenzler on May 1, 2012 11:43:02 GMT 1, TNT charge @ 20% and then allow you to claim it back.. Im not paying this time though until they amend the invoice. It does my head in.
TNT charge @ 20% and then allow you to claim it back.. Im not paying this time though until they amend the invoice. It does my head in.
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EBay art from Tokyo , by dazzer1973 on May 1, 2012 20:27:14 GMT 1, great thanks for all you advice i have not paid the guy yet sent messages with no reply if this is the way thing will go ill cancel it oh ebay name is googooking
great thanks for all you advice i have not paid the guy yet sent messages with no reply if this is the way thing will go ill cancel it oh ebay name is googooking
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