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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Sacked... on Jul 18, 2012 11:24:13 GMT 1, From The London Vandal :
Itโs not uncommon for us to be contacted by respected ex-graffiti writers. That said, we certainly werenโt expecting the late night phone calls that we received from some past artists last night, who got in touch to tell us that they had been raided by the police yesterday (17th July). While graffiti writerโs homes being raided by the police is not a rare phenomenon, this series of raids came as quite a shock to many of the artists as most had given up painting illegal graffiti some 15 years ago. Some of the people who were arrested had stopped painting graffiti without prior permission over a decade ago, and now paint commissioned artwork for corporate clients, while others havenโt touched a spray can at all in many years. For both types of ex-graffiti enthusiast, a knock on the door from the British Transport Police was the last thing they were expecting. As they were escorted by officers back to the BTP headquaters in Victoria, the retired graffiti artists overheard radio chatter which made it clear to them that raids were being carried out on addresses across the length and breadth of London. Once they arrived at the station, the ex-graffiti writers spotted thirty or more familiar faces from the past โ and realised that they werenโt the only ex-graff scene dweller to be arrested. Retired graffiti artists had been pulled in a big way. It was around then that the graffiti artists realised what point the police were trying to make with them. Having been arrested, they were questioned about what they considered petty matters โ accusations of criminal damage in the โ90s, questions about websites and magazines that they were involved in. After being briefly questioned about these seemingly irrelevant matters, they were told that they were to be bailed until November on the condition that they did not use any form of railway in London (overground, tube or tram), carry spray paint (or other graffiti tools, presumably) at any time, or travel within a mile of any Olympic area. That includes the Olympic Park, the ExCel center and other Earls Court locations, Greenwich park, Hampton Court Palace, Hyde Park, Lordโs Cricket Ground, North Greenwich Arena, The Mall, The Royal Artillery Barracks, Wembley Arena, Wembley Stadium, Wimbledon and a host of out-of-London locations.
They felt that they were arrested for one reason โ in order to place bail restrictions upon them that would supposedly discourage graffiti from being painted during the Olympics. Itโs no secret that graffiti and street art are being targeted in the run up the London 2012 games. Each day stories emerge of artworks treasured by locals being removed by excited councils, or of graffiti that had remained untouched for years suddenly being washed brown by the over-zealous buff. Even so, we didnโt expect that unsolicited artwork would be considered such a threat to the image of the country that the authorities would manipulate the legal system to send a message out the graffiti artists โ picking up anyone they could with a past in graffiti and slapping them with harsh bail conditions. Whether the BTP โs arrests served any genuine purpose, or if they were simply a tool used to issue people with draconian bail conditions, only they can say. Assuming our contact was right, the British Transport Police were trying to send a message to them. A message that says graffiti would not be tolerated during the Olympics. Quite why the BTP decided to target a group of mainly retired writers, no one is quite sure. If they were trying to make a point to these men that they shouldnโt attempt to gain graffiti notoriety during the Olympics, they are most likely a decade or two too late to advise these men. These men have told us that they are not currently involved in painting illegal graffiti. These men are living law-abiding lives, but can no longer travel on public transport or enter large areas of London due to harsh bail conditions. In addition, laptops, mobile phones and other devices were taken into evidence by police. How these men are supposed to work and look after their families under these conditions, they are not sure.
While thousands of people every year travel to cities like Barcelona, Los Angeles and Berlin to enjoy the graffiti and other vibrant youth movements, the heavy handed actions of government and law enforcement in London could see our fair capital descend into the cultural deadzone. The growing sanitisation of the city threatens itโs status as a creative hub, and now the authorities are harassing legitimate artists in their never ending pursuit of those who dare to create art without permis
www.thelondonvandal.com/2012/07/graffiti-raids-across-london-as-police-sanitise-city-ready-for-olympics/
From The London Vandal : Itโs not uncommon for us to be contacted by respected ex-graffiti writers. That said, we certainly werenโt expecting the late night phone calls that we received from some past artists last night, who got in touch to tell us that they had been raided by the police yesterday (17th July). While graffiti writerโs homes being raided by the police is not a rare phenomenon, this series of raids came as quite a shock to many of the artists as most had given up painting illegal graffiti some 15 years ago. Some of the people who were arrested had stopped painting graffiti without prior permission over a decade ago, and now paint commissioned artwork for corporate clients, while others havenโt touched a spray can at all in many years. For both types of ex-graffiti enthusiast, a knock on the door from the British Transport Police was the last thing they were expecting. As they were escorted by officers back to the BTP headquaters in Victoria, the retired graffiti artists overheard radio chatter which made it clear to them that raids were being carried out on addresses across the length and breadth of London. Once they arrived at the station, the ex-graffiti writers spotted thirty or more familiar faces from the past โ and realised that they werenโt the only ex-graff scene dweller to be arrested. Retired graffiti artists had been pulled in a big way. It was around then that the graffiti artists realised what point the police were trying to make with them. Having been arrested, they were questioned about what they considered petty matters โ accusations of criminal damage in the โ90s, questions about websites and magazines that they were involved in. After being briefly questioned about these seemingly irrelevant matters, they were told that they were to be bailed until November on the condition that they did not use any form of railway in London (overground, tube or tram), carry spray paint (or other graffiti tools, presumably) at any time, or travel within a mile of any Olympic area. That includes the Olympic Park, the ExCel center and other Earls Court locations, Greenwich park, Hampton Court Palace, Hyde Park, Lordโs Cricket Ground, North Greenwich Arena, The Mall, The Royal Artillery Barracks, Wembley Arena, Wembley Stadium, Wimbledon and a host of out-of-London locations. They felt that they were arrested for one reason โ in order to place bail restrictions upon them that would supposedly discourage graffiti from being painted during the Olympics. Itโs no secret that graffiti and street art are being targeted in the run up the London 2012 games. Each day stories emerge of artworks treasured by locals being removed by excited councils, or of graffiti that had remained untouched for years suddenly being washed brown by the over-zealous buff. Even so, we didnโt expect that unsolicited artwork would be considered such a threat to the image of the country that the authorities would manipulate the legal system to send a message out the graffiti artists โ picking up anyone they could with a past in graffiti and slapping them with harsh bail conditions. Whether the BTP โs arrests served any genuine purpose, or if they were simply a tool used to issue people with draconian bail conditions, only they can say. Assuming our contact was right, the British Transport Police were trying to send a message to them. A message that says graffiti would not be tolerated during the Olympics. Quite why the BTP decided to target a group of mainly retired writers, no one is quite sure. If they were trying to make a point to these men that they shouldnโt attempt to gain graffiti notoriety during the Olympics, they are most likely a decade or two too late to advise these men. These men have told us that they are not currently involved in painting illegal graffiti. These men are living law-abiding lives, but can no longer travel on public transport or enter large areas of London due to harsh bail conditions. In addition, laptops, mobile phones and other devices were taken into evidence by police. How these men are supposed to work and look after their families under these conditions, they are not sure. While thousands of people every year travel to cities like Barcelona, Los Angeles and Berlin to enjoy the graffiti and other vibrant youth movements, the heavy handed actions of government and law enforcement in London could see our fair capital descend into the cultural deadzone. The growing sanitisation of the city threatens itโs status as a creative hub, and now the authorities are harassing legitimate artists in their never ending pursuit of those who dare to create art without permis www.thelondonvandal.com/2012/07/graffiti-raids-across-london-as-police-sanitise-city-ready-for-olympics/
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by stopki on Jul 18, 2012 12:07:15 GMT 1, thanx for this.... terrible !
plastic cops...
thanx for this.... terrible !
plastic cops...
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Agent Provocateur on Jul 18, 2012 12:12:52 GMT 1, Thanks for posting sacked... madness!
Thanks for posting sacked... madness!
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Rsyok on Jul 18, 2012 12:50:28 GMT 1, Maybe a reaction ? This really is an incredible misuse of the law & breach of human rights.
It does make me think about Banksy's plans though ?
Maybe a reaction ? This really is an incredible misuse of the law & breach of human rights.
It does make me think about Banksy's plans though ?
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by El Pulpo on Jul 18, 2012 14:23:56 GMT 1, I don't understand why ! I think they are fanning the fire ..
I don't understand why ! I think they are fanning the fire ..
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by love on Jul 18, 2012 17:19:58 GMT 1, Very sad,... grab your cans!
Very sad,... grab your cans!
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 18:37:39 GMT 1, Makes me want to leave the country.
Makes me want to leave the country.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Coach on Jul 18, 2012 22:00:54 GMT 1, Shocking, if accurate, and I have no reason to believe it is not. Seems like an abuse of process to me. I hope they club together to challenge it - as a group sharing the cost, they should be able to instruct a decent lawyer. It is so blatantly unfair to prevent someone from travelling and possibly even working, in london, in such an arbitary way. Overkill. Pathetic.
Shocking, if accurate, and I have no reason to believe it is not. Seems like an abuse of process to me. I hope they club together to challenge it - as a group sharing the cost, they should be able to instruct a decent lawyer. It is so blatantly unfair to prevent someone from travelling and possibly even working, in london, in such an arbitary way. Overkill. Pathetic.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Finsbury on Jul 18, 2012 22:28:44 GMT 1, BTP @ Victoria, nothing better to do? Morons. Crime prevention!..I hope Stratford get bombed right up for this.
BTP @ Victoria, nothing better to do? Morons. Crime prevention!..I hope Stratford get bombed right up for this.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Baby Dave on Jul 19, 2012 1:03:17 GMT 1,
Too far mate. If you've got a view then express it in a structured way. If not then keep your stupid, simple minded comments to yourself.
Too far mate. If you've got a view then express it in a structured way. If not then keep your stupid, simple minded comments to yourself.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Deleted on Jul 19, 2012 1:06:49 GMT 1, This thread is heading towards Lush territory..
This thread is heading towards Lush territory..
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Baby Dave on Jul 19, 2012 1:13:09 GMT 1, It's all well and good to have an opinion and express it. Sometimes our opinions are blunt and rough around the edges. Sweeping comments with no foundation or relevance, such as rogermillas ACAB comment, are hate filled and disgusting.
It makes me think twice about being part of this community.
It's all well and good to have an opinion and express it. Sometimes our opinions are blunt and rough around the edges. Sweeping comments with no foundation or relevance, such as rogermillas ACAB comment, are hate filled and disgusting.
It makes me think twice about being part of this community.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Baby Dave on Jul 19, 2012 7:00:40 GMT 1, It's all well and good to have an opinion and express it. Sometimes our opinions are blunt and rough around the edges. Sweeping comments with no foundation or relevance, such as rogermillas ACAB comment, are hate filled and disgusting. It makes me think twice about being part of this community. "Foundation or relevance" can be found in the article above. You probably should think twice about being part of a community based on graffiti and vandalism. ACAB FTB
I am thinking twice. Not because of what the community is based on but because of people like you. So your comment of ACAB is founded in the source article of this thread. Right. Ok. I'm not sure if you're aware where that acronym is used these days or by who. I'm praying you don't. Yes we all know what it means but it's adoptive meaning does changeover time.
Cheers for your clarification on the matter though.
It's all well and good to have an opinion and express it. Sometimes our opinions are blunt and rough around the edges. Sweeping comments with no foundation or relevance, such as rogermillas ACAB comment, are hate filled and disgusting. It makes me think twice about being part of this community. "Foundation or relevance" can be found in the article above. You probably should think twice about being part of a community based on graffiti and vandalism. ACAB FTB I am thinking twice. Not because of what the community is based on but because of people like you. So your comment of ACAB is founded in the source article of this thread. Right. Ok. I'm not sure if you're aware where that acronym is used these days or by who. I'm praying you don't. Yes we all know what it means but it's adoptive meaning does changeover time. Cheers for your clarification on the matter though.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by motor on Jul 19, 2012 9:52:13 GMT 1, This is f ked up.
This is f ked up.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by jonti on Jul 19, 2012 10:45:42 GMT 1, "Foundation or relevance" can be found in the article above. You probably should think twice about being part of a community based on graffiti and vandalism. ACAB FTB I am thinking twice. Not because of what the community is based on but because of people like you. So your comment of ACAB is founded in the source article of this thread. Right. Ok. I'm not sure if you're aware where that acronym is used these days or by who. I'm praying you don't. Yes we all know what it means but it's adoptive meaning does changeover time. Cheers for your clarification on the matter though.
If you are accusing him of being some sort of Nazi, then its you who is going too far.
Bringing the full force of Goodwin's Law into action after 1 post has a beautiful symmetry with the original subject of this thread!
"Foundation or relevance" can be found in the article above. You probably should think twice about being part of a community based on graffiti and vandalism. ACAB FTB I am thinking twice. Not because of what the community is based on but because of people like you. So your comment of ACAB is founded in the source article of this thread. Right. Ok. I'm not sure if you're aware where that acronym is used these days or by who. I'm praying you don't. Yes we all know what it means but it's adoptive meaning does changeover time. Cheers for your clarification on the matter though. If you are accusing him of being some sort of Nazi, then its you who is going too far. Bringing the full force of Goodwin's Law into action after 1 post has a beautiful symmetry with the original subject of this thread!
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Deleted on Jul 19, 2012 11:21:37 GMT 1, Have we got to the stage where we are believing all that we read on the internet with no evidence to back it up? It's not much different than the McCarthy era - all based on heresay.
It's all too easy to throw the phrase ACAB around; just as it's easy to acuse all graff writers of vandalism.
Have we got to the stage where we are believing all that we read on the internet with no evidence to back it up? It's not much different than the McCarthy era - all based on heresay.
It's all too easy to throw the phrase ACAB around; just as it's easy to acuse all graff writers of vandalism.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by El Pulpo on Jul 19, 2012 12:20:11 GMT 1, Sorry for my ignorance but what does "ACAB" means ?
Sorry for my ignorance but what does "ACAB" means ?
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Coach on Jul 19, 2012 13:25:36 GMT 1, Sorry for my ignorance but what does "ACAB" means ?
Take a look on urban dictionary. I knew what it meant. But not the other meaning being referred to above.
Sorry for my ignorance but what does "ACAB" means ? Take a look on urban dictionary. I knew what it meant. But not the other meaning being referred to above.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by El Pulpo on Jul 19, 2012 13:33:11 GMT 1, Sorry for my ignorance but what does "ACAB" means ? Take a look on urban dictionary. I knew what it meant. But not the other meaning being referred to above.
Thanks dude
Sorry for my ignorance but what does "ACAB" means ? Take a look on urban dictionary. I knew what it meant. But not the other meaning being referred to above. Thanks dude
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 17:23:00 GMT 1, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18927228
London 2012: Outrage over artist banned from Olympics
Darren Cullen is banned from going within one mile of Olympic venues
Authorities have "lost the plot" over the Olympics and are needlessly arresting people, according to a human rights lawyer.
Kieran O'Rourke said authorities had a "hyper-sensitivity" over the Games.
His comments come after an artist who had been approached by Team GB to paint the Athletes' Village was arrested and banned from going near Olympic venues.
British Transport Police (BTP) said the arrest was not pre-emptive and it was protecting the Games' "integrity".
Professional artist Darren Cullen, 38, from Kent, was arrested earlier this week on suspicion of inciting to commit criminal damage along with several other people.
He said officers arrested and questioned him over a graffiti website which he registered for a customer several years ago.
"Even if it was my website, what has that got to do with the Olympics? What can I do to the Olympics? I'm not being arrested for doing things on street.
"I'm fuming. I'm not that type of person - it just stinks."
Mr Cullen, who has worked with various companies including official Olympic sponsor Adidas and has received the government's backing over his project to prevent graffiti on trains, said he was released on police bail until November.
He added that he had never illegally painted a wall.
Mr Cullen has worked as a professional artist for 15 years The bail conditions are:
Not to enter any railway system, including the Tube and trams Not to be in possession of any spray paint Not to associate or communicate with the other persons arrested and on bail for this investigation Not to be at or within one mile of any Olympic venue in London or elsewhere in England Mr O'Rourke, who represented residents in east London who failed in their High Court bid to prevent missiles being stationed on top of their flats, said he was shocked by the arrest and bail conditions.
He said as he represented the residents, he has found that many government bodies and agencies were hypersensitive about anything which might damage the Olympics.
'Selling out' Mr O'Rourke said of the bail conditions, the Olympics one was not needed as the other conditions prevent him from doing any graffiti damage ahead of the Games.
"This is a really worrying issue," he said, adding that it was a civil liberties issue.
"This is a huge infringement of someone's human rights under the Human Rights Act.
"Are we, in bringing the Games here - which is only a sporting event - selling out on our fundamental British rights?
"The authorities have lost the plot and seem to be saying that the Olympics are so important that people are losing hard fought human rights."
A spokesman for BTP said the arrest was not pre-emptive and that it was part of an ongoing investigation.
He added that a custody sergeant agreed to the bail conditions and that an arrested person could always appeal them.
The spokesman added that the arrest was not speeded up because of the Olympics.
"The investigation was months in the planning and the arrests would have happened either way," he said.
The Association of Chief Police Officers said police officers apply for Olympic bail conditions if they think there is a risk of criminal disruption to the event.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18927228London 2012: Outrage over artist banned from Olympics Darren Cullen is banned from going within one mile of Olympic venues Authorities have "lost the plot" over the Olympics and are needlessly arresting people, according to a human rights lawyer. Kieran O'Rourke said authorities had a "hyper-sensitivity" over the Games. His comments come after an artist who had been approached by Team GB to paint the Athletes' Village was arrested and banned from going near Olympic venues. British Transport Police (BTP) said the arrest was not pre-emptive and it was protecting the Games' "integrity". Professional artist Darren Cullen, 38, from Kent, was arrested earlier this week on suspicion of inciting to commit criminal damage along with several other people. He said officers arrested and questioned him over a graffiti website which he registered for a customer several years ago. "Even if it was my website, what has that got to do with the Olympics? What can I do to the Olympics? I'm not being arrested for doing things on street. "I'm fuming. I'm not that type of person - it just stinks." Mr Cullen, who has worked with various companies including official Olympic sponsor Adidas and has received the government's backing over his project to prevent graffiti on trains, said he was released on police bail until November. He added that he had never illegally painted a wall. Mr Cullen has worked as a professional artist for 15 years The bail conditions are: Not to enter any railway system, including the Tube and trams Not to be in possession of any spray paint Not to associate or communicate with the other persons arrested and on bail for this investigation Not to be at or within one mile of any Olympic venue in London or elsewhere in England Mr O'Rourke, who represented residents in east London who failed in their High Court bid to prevent missiles being stationed on top of their flats, said he was shocked by the arrest and bail conditions. He said as he represented the residents, he has found that many government bodies and agencies were hypersensitive about anything which might damage the Olympics. 'Selling out' Mr O'Rourke said of the bail conditions, the Olympics one was not needed as the other conditions prevent him from doing any graffiti damage ahead of the Games. "This is a really worrying issue," he said, adding that it was a civil liberties issue. "This is a huge infringement of someone's human rights under the Human Rights Act. "Are we, in bringing the Games here - which is only a sporting event - selling out on our fundamental British rights? "The authorities have lost the plot and seem to be saying that the Olympics are so important that people are losing hard fought human rights." A spokesman for BTP said the arrest was not pre-emptive and that it was part of an ongoing investigation. He added that a custody sergeant agreed to the bail conditions and that an arrested person could always appeal them. The spokesman added that the arrest was not speeded up because of the Olympics. "The investigation was months in the planning and the arrests would have happened either way," he said. The Association of Chief Police Officers said police officers apply for Olympic bail conditions if they think there is a risk of criminal disruption to the event.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Sacked... on Jul 22, 2012 10:00:00 GMT 1, Has Banksy been arrested yet ?
Has Banksy been arrested yet ?
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by james on Jul 22, 2012 11:17:23 GMT 1, Meanwhile, there is a graff olympic mascot installed on brick lane
Meanwhile, there is a graff olympic mascot installed on brick lane
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Chrisp on Jul 22, 2012 17:06:28 GMT 1, Has Banksy been arrested yet ?
Love to see that one
Driving round the m25 the other day a lot seems to have been buffed under the bridges and so on, mass clean up by the looks of it. Shame as i think it gives a city character probably the same as most on here.
Has Banksy been arrested yet ? Love to see that one Driving round the m25 the other day a lot seems to have been buffed under the bridges and so on, mass clean up by the looks of it. Shame as i think it gives a city character probably the same as most on here.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by johnnyh on Jul 22, 2012 17:22:24 GMT 1, The Olympics are a once in a life time country opportunity. The Olympics area over ride local laws. Or there are penalties forget rights and wrongs these are facts same as FIFA and the world cup.
So they protect their brand and political statements. I do not necessarily agree with that but unfortunately that is the deal.
Now two things have happened one they have been heavy handed and the other is that this has been over hyped.
So it's all a bit bollocks really.
Ps when was graffiti ever legal. It is as mentioned above if your Banksy but not if you just spray things. In many cases it has become semi legal just not within 5 to 10 miles of the Olympics but then a nurses strike is also not allowed in that area also. Not being funny but but the nurses strike is more important.
The Olympics are a once in a life time country opportunity. The Olympics area over ride local laws. Or there are penalties forget rights and wrongs these are facts same as FIFA and the world cup.
So they protect their brand and political statements. I do not necessarily agree with that but unfortunately that is the deal.
Now two things have happened one they have been heavy handed and the other is that this has been over hyped.
So it's all a bit bollocks really.
Ps when was graffiti ever legal. It is as mentioned above if your Banksy but not if you just spray things. In many cases it has become semi legal just not within 5 to 10 miles of the Olympics but then a nurses strike is also not allowed in that area also. Not being funny but but the nurses strike is more important.
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 23:26:48 GMT 1, Nice clean walls for when its all over then
Nice clean walls for when its all over then
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by johnnyh on Jul 23, 2012 2:17:06 GMT 1, Yes exactly then all can start again. But actually I doubt apart from on the direct routes much will get done. Just visable to the Olympic Park etc. In someways a shame but not in anyway a surprise.
Can just see TOX 13 as they go to light the flame. That would be superb
Yes exactly then all can start again. But actually I doubt apart from on the direct routes much will get done. Just visable to the Olympic Park etc. In someways a shame but not in anyway a surprise.
Can just see TOX 13 as they go to light the flame. That would be superb
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Graff Raids In London Before Olympics., by astrobboy on Aug 21, 2012 20:51:02 GMT 1, And this in Australia today...
www.smh.com.au/nsw/delayed-and-diluted-graffiti-bill-finally-passes-20120821-24kkv.html
THE NSW Premier, Barry O'Farrell, was yesterday forced to water down his graffiti bill to get it through Parliament almost a year after it was introduced.
The government supported an amendment by the Shooters and Fishers Party that removed a provision to strip young people of their driver's licences for graffiti offences.
The bill had stalled after Shooters and Fishers Party MPs sided with the Greens in the upper house in August last year to amend the original version.
Under the original bill, all young graffiti vandals would have faced court and could have lost their driver's licence. Asked last year, Mr O'Farrell said he would ''use every possible option'' to pass the bill. Advertisement
The government last week rejected a call by the upper house for a free conference, which would have seen 10 MPs from each house of Parliament try to resolve the deadlock.
The Attorney-General, Greg Smith, said the new laws would require juvenile graffiti vandals to appear before the court for a graffiti offence, give courts the power to extend the time graffiti offenders spend on learner or provisional licences and limit the number of demerit points they are able to accrue over a specific period.
And this in Australia today... www.smh.com.au/nsw/delayed-and-diluted-graffiti-bill-finally-passes-20120821-24kkv.htmlTHE NSW Premier, Barry O'Farrell, was yesterday forced to water down his graffiti bill to get it through Parliament almost a year after it was introduced. The government supported an amendment by the Shooters and Fishers Party that removed a provision to strip young people of their driver's licences for graffiti offences. The bill had stalled after Shooters and Fishers Party MPs sided with the Greens in the upper house in August last year to amend the original version. Under the original bill, all young graffiti vandals would have faced court and could have lost their driver's licence. Asked last year, Mr O'Farrell said he would ''use every possible option'' to pass the bill. Advertisement The government last week rejected a call by the upper house for a free conference, which would have seen 10 MPs from each house of Parliament try to resolve the deadlock. The Attorney-General, Greg Smith, said the new laws would require juvenile graffiti vandals to appear before the court for a graffiti offence, give courts the power to extend the time graffiti offenders spend on learner or provisional licences and limit the number of demerit points they are able to accrue over a specific period.
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