bjornca
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 21, 2014 22:14:06 GMT 1, Wanted to get people's opinions on my situation. Long story short, negotiated a commission with an artist whereby I received a discount to their typical pricing for a 48"x60" canvas (for illustrative purposes, let's say the price was around $5k, and I don't think they always offer commissions). Fast forward a few weeks and I receive a canvas measuring 40"x60", but the work/technique itself is exactly what I wanted. However, proportions look off (narrow) and not what we agreed to (surface area ~15% smaller than expected), so not entirely pleased with the final result.
How would you handle this situation? Would you expect a discount given you're not entirely pleased, and if so, of what magnitude, or would you demand exactly what was initially agreed? Would describe the work as abstract, so would note as salable through one of the galleries that represents them.
Much appreciated for your thoughts.
Wanted to get people's opinions on my situation. Long story short, negotiated a commission with an artist whereby I received a discount to their typical pricing for a 48"x60" canvas (for illustrative purposes, let's say the price was around $5k, and I don't think they always offer commissions). Fast forward a few weeks and I receive a canvas measuring 40"x60", but the work/technique itself is exactly what I wanted. However, proportions look off (narrow) and not what we agreed to (surface area ~15% smaller than expected), so not entirely pleased with the final result.
How would you handle this situation? Would you expect a discount given you're not entirely pleased, and if so, of what magnitude, or would you demand exactly what was initially agreed? Would describe the work as abstract, so would note as salable through one of the galleries that represents them.
Much appreciated for your thoughts.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 22:20:03 GMT 1, With all due respect B, my initial reaction is that if you were so adamant as to the size and content, ie. knowing exactly what you wanted, then why not just do it yourself?, let the Artist have the input.
The Artist is the Artist and you must have liked their work to have chosen them, go with what they did for you, its what they felt at the time, im sure it looks lovely.. .
With all due respect B, my initial reaction is that if you were so adamant as to the size and content, ie. knowing exactly what you wanted, then why not just do it yourself?, let the Artist have the input.
The Artist is the Artist and you must have liked their work to have chosen them, go with what they did for you, its what they felt at the time, im sure it looks lovely.. .
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Dungle
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Dungle on Jul 21, 2014 22:24:35 GMT 1, Tough one.
If you really aren't happy with the final piece, then I would say something. If it's the size that is making you not like it rather than the image then I'm not so sure.
I guess at the end of the day you commissioned and paid for something that you've not received.
Tough one.
If you really aren't happy with the final piece, then I would say something. If it's the size that is making you not like it rather than the image then I'm not so sure.
I guess at the end of the day you commissioned and paid for something that you've not received.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 22:42:52 GMT 1, I am a bit confused... The canvas meets the dimensions you specified, but the artist left ~15% of the canvas blank???
I am a bit confused... The canvas meets the dimensions you specified, but the artist left ~15% of the canvas blank???
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 23:22:35 GMT 1, So if you calculate your discount & weigh it up against the square inch area of canvass you are short. Did you win or lose?
Joking aside. Hang it on the wall to see what a bit of time does & make some gentle enquiries with your seller. imho
So if you calculate your discount & weigh it up against the square inch area of canvass you are short. Did you win or lose?
Joking aside. Hang it on the wall to see what a bit of time does & make some gentle enquiries with your seller. imho
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Question Regarding A Commission, by commissioner on Jul 22, 2014 0:37:33 GMT 1, should've gone to the commissioner...
Explain the descrepancies to them & see where the conversation takes you.. if they offer a discount ( great ), if not..try to negotiate if they're playing freerange.. i mean hardball..
should've gone to the commissioner...
Explain the descrepancies to them & see where the conversation takes you.. if they offer a discount ( great ), if not..try to negotiate if they're playing freerange.. i mean hardball..
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bjornca
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 22, 2014 0:54:51 GMT 1, With all due respect B, my initial reaction is that if you were so adamant as to the size and content, ie. knowing exactly what you wanted, then why not just do it yourself?, let the Artist have the input. The Artist is the Artist and you must have liked their work to have chosen them, go with what they did for you, its what they felt at the time, im sure it looks lovely.. . @wizbong definitely get your point, but when I mention content above, I mainly specified primary color and provided input as to certain of their techniques I wanted heavily used throughout (ie. excess use of spray / drips, a lot of texture, overlap, etc.). So, I was not too specific with what they did, and they did have a lot of input. But, we did agree to a specific size, and it wasn't an insignificant dollar value. It would be a lot easier to understand if I mentioned who it was, but prefer to keep that confidential.
And to top it off, I can't do it myself as I don't possess artistic skills.
Tough one. If you really aren't happy with the final piece, then I would say something. If it's the size that is making you not like it rather than the image then I'm not so sure. I guess at the end of the day you commissioned and paid for something that you've not received. The final piece does look great, but the dimensions look slightly off, which is what's bothering me. It's not in me to typically complain about something like this, but given what I've paid, and how I'm not entirely satisfied, is what I'm trying to weigh. The artist went out of their way for a commission, but at the end of the day, it's not what we agreed to.
I am a bit confused... The canvas meets the dimensions you specified, but the artist left ~15% of the canvas blank??? The canvas does not meet the dimensions. It was supposed to be a 48x60 canvas, but is only a 40x60. How the canvas was actually done, is what I'm pleased with.
With all due respect B, my initial reaction is that if you were so adamant as to the size and content, ie. knowing exactly what you wanted, then why not just do it yourself?, let the Artist have the input. The Artist is the Artist and you must have liked their work to have chosen them, go with what they did for you, its what they felt at the time, im sure it looks lovely.. . @wizbong definitely get your point, but when I mention content above, I mainly specified primary color and provided input as to certain of their techniques I wanted heavily used throughout (ie. excess use of spray / drips, a lot of texture, overlap, etc.). So, I was not too specific with what they did, and they did have a lot of input. But, we did agree to a specific size, and it wasn't an insignificant dollar value. It would be a lot easier to understand if I mentioned who it was, but prefer to keep that confidential. And to top it off, I can't do it myself as I don't possess artistic skills. Tough one. If you really aren't happy with the final piece, then I would say something. If it's the size that is making you not like it rather than the image then I'm not so sure. I guess at the end of the day you commissioned and paid for something that you've not received. The final piece does look great, but the dimensions look slightly off, which is what's bothering me. It's not in me to typically complain about something like this, but given what I've paid, and how I'm not entirely satisfied, is what I'm trying to weigh. The artist went out of their way for a commission, but at the end of the day, it's not what we agreed to. I am a bit confused... The canvas meets the dimensions you specified, but the artist left ~15% of the canvas blank??? The canvas does not meet the dimensions. It was supposed to be a 48x60 canvas, but is only a 40x60. How the canvas was actually done, is what I'm pleased with.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 22, 2014 0:57:38 GMT 1, So if you calculate your discount & weigh it up against the square inch area of canvass you are short. Did you win or lose? Joking aside. Hang it on the wall to see what a bit of time does & make some gentle enquiries with your seller. imho I would say I lost by a lot based on that methodology, unfortunately.
So if you calculate your discount & weigh it up against the square inch area of canvass you are short. Did you win or lose? Joking aside. Hang it on the wall to see what a bit of time does & make some gentle enquiries with your seller. imho I would say I lost by a lot based on that methodology, unfortunately.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by petro on Jul 22, 2014 0:58:57 GMT 1, Is 48" x 60" a standard size? It sounds to me like that could be a typo and they meant 40" x 60" all along.
Is 48" x 60" a standard size? It sounds to me like that could be a typo and they meant 40" x 60" all along.
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bjornca
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 22, 2014 1:14:29 GMT 1, Is 48" x 60" a standard size? It sounds to me like that could be a typo and they meant 40" x 60" all along. They've admitted the error. Size was specifically negotiated.
Is 48" x 60" a standard size? It sounds to me like that could be a typo and they meant 40" x 60" all along. They've admitted the error. Size was specifically negotiated.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by petro on Jul 22, 2014 1:25:23 GMT 1, Okay, I feel like we're not getting the full story then. They admitted the error and then said what? Did they explain how the error was made? Did they offer an apology? Did you both come to an agreement? You're being so vague in the details that it's hard to figure out what really happened.
Okay, I feel like we're not getting the full story then. They admitted the error and then said what? Did they explain how the error was made? Did they offer an apology? Did you both come to an agreement? You're being so vague in the details that it's hard to figure out what really happened.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Morfx on Jul 22, 2014 1:33:57 GMT 1, So basically, your happy with the canvas, just not the size...
8 inch's isn't that much (unless your female)
Get it on the wall, give it some time...
So basically, your happy with the canvas, just not the size... 8 inch's isn't that much (unless your female) Get it on the wall, give it some time...
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Question Regarding A Commission, by alittle on Jul 22, 2014 1:37:44 GMT 1, Seems a bit petty to me, but ultimately, you need to be happy with what you purchased. As you are not happy, I definitely recommend seeking compensation from the artist. Of course, as long as you are willing to accept that they may never want to work with you again.
Seems a bit petty to me, but ultimately, you need to be happy with what you purchased. As you are not happy, I definitely recommend seeking compensation from the artist. Of course, as long as you are willing to accept that they may never want to work with you again.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 1:37:47 GMT 1, Yeah, I can see that 48 by 60 is roughly 4 by 5 feet, a pretty standard size. I have a 48 by 62 and I like the proportions. But as it is already done, maybe the fairest thing is to maybe the artist would throw in a small work on paper etc. Obviously not a canvas but at least something. I'm guessing partial refund is off the table. If the work is smaller and looks a bit wonky, I would guess long term it would be slightly less desirable than a similar sized proportional work. Or it could look brilliant as it is and no value lost. It's hard to say in the blind.
Problem is you took delivery and that sort of lessens your position. It would have been better to negotiate before taking possession.
Anyway, I hope it works out for you
Yeah, I can see that 48 by 60 is roughly 4 by 5 feet, a pretty standard size. I have a 48 by 62 and I like the proportions. But as it is already done, maybe the fairest thing is to maybe the artist would throw in a small work on paper etc. Obviously not a canvas but at least something. I'm guessing partial refund is off the table. If the work is smaller and looks a bit wonky, I would guess long term it would be slightly less desirable than a similar sized proportional work. Or it could look brilliant as it is and no value lost. It's hard to say in the blind.
Problem is you took delivery and that sort of lessens your position. It would have been better to negotiate before taking possession.
Anyway, I hope it works out for you
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Morfx on Jul 22, 2014 1:42:02 GMT 1, Speaking of commissions, Cant wait to get mine.. Will be a month or so...
Pic's will be uploaded when received..... Canny wait...
Speaking of commissions, Cant wait to get mine.. Will be a month or so... Pic's will be uploaded when received..... Canny wait...
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bjornca
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 22, 2014 1:49:53 GMT 1, Okay, I feel like we're not getting the full story then. They admitted the error and then said what? Did they explain how the error was made? Did they offer an apology? Did you both come to an agreement? You're being so vague in the details that it's hard to figure out what really happened. When I first wrote the post, I had not heard a response from the artist / studio, but wanted to see if anyone had run into this issue in the past (so I was including the information that I had at hand). Since my initial post, I received a response that included an apology which essentially stated they thought the stretched canvas they had at hand fit the size we agreed to, so someone made a simple mistake and did not double check all the details. In regards to any compensation, we have not agreed on anything (I'm yet to respond) as I'm trying to further process, and want to be diligent in my ask given I've never been in this situation (ie. trying to get as much input from other examples). A small discount has now been offered on their end, but we have not negotiated / discussed that whatsoever.
Okay, I feel like we're not getting the full story then. They admitted the error and then said what? Did they explain how the error was made? Did they offer an apology? Did you both come to an agreement? You're being so vague in the details that it's hard to figure out what really happened. When I first wrote the post, I had not heard a response from the artist / studio, but wanted to see if anyone had run into this issue in the past (so I was including the information that I had at hand). Since my initial post, I received a response that included an apology which essentially stated they thought the stretched canvas they had at hand fit the size we agreed to, so someone made a simple mistake and did not double check all the details. In regards to any compensation, we have not agreed on anything (I'm yet to respond) as I'm trying to further process, and want to be diligent in my ask given I've never been in this situation (ie. trying to get as much input from other examples). A small discount has now been offered on their end, but we have not negotiated / discussed that whatsoever.
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bjornca
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 22, 2014 2:06:10 GMT 1, Yeah, I can see that 48 by 60 is roughly 4 by 5 feet, a pretty standard size. I have a 48 by 62 and I like the proportions. But as it is already done, maybe the fairest thing is to maybe the artist would throw in a small work on paper etc. Obviously not a canvas but at least something. I'm guessing partial refund is off the table. If the work is smaller and looks a bit wonky, I would guess long term it would be slightly less desirable than a similar sized proportional work. Or it could look brilliant as it is and no value lost. It's hard to say in the blind. Problem is you took delivery and that sort of lessens your position. It would have been better to negotiate before taking possession. Anyway, I hope it works out for you Thanks @streetfart. Unfortunately if I had known the dimensions weren't what we agreed to, I wouldn't have taken delivery (I didn't think there was a chance this would occur). As others have mentioned, I'm not trying to offend the artist here and eliminate any potential for future business (although not sure how this isn't impacted unless I just accept it outright), but I don't necessarily think I'm being petty as 8" represents an additional 20% to the width... but maybe I am. I'm sure there are a number of people on here that wouldn't want to pay for one size and receive something smaller, no matter what the object.
Thanks everyone for the input. Will see how this plays out.
Yeah, I can see that 48 by 60 is roughly 4 by 5 feet, a pretty standard size. I have a 48 by 62 and I like the proportions. But as it is already done, maybe the fairest thing is to maybe the artist would throw in a small work on paper etc. Obviously not a canvas but at least something. I'm guessing partial refund is off the table. If the work is smaller and looks a bit wonky, I would guess long term it would be slightly less desirable than a similar sized proportional work. Or it could look brilliant as it is and no value lost. It's hard to say in the blind. Problem is you took delivery and that sort of lessens your position. It would have been better to negotiate before taking possession. Anyway, I hope it works out for you Thanks @streetfart. Unfortunately if I had known the dimensions weren't what we agreed to, I wouldn't have taken delivery (I didn't think there was a chance this would occur). As others have mentioned, I'm not trying to offend the artist here and eliminate any potential for future business (although not sure how this isn't impacted unless I just accept it outright), but I don't necessarily think I'm being petty as 8" represents an additional 20% to the width... but maybe I am. I'm sure there are a number of people on here that wouldn't want to pay for one size and receive something smaller, no matter what the object. Thanks everyone for the input. Will see how this plays out.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 2:16:45 GMT 1, Now that I understand the 15% off... I have to say that I would kindly ask for some type of compensation from the artist as the finished product was not as specified... (I paint myself, and LOVE 4x5' canvases- but they're a bitch to ship)... You have already communicated the discrepancies to the artist... If s/he is ethical (has pride in his/her work) s/he will the do the right thing.
Good luck!
Now that I understand the 15% off... I have to say that I would kindly ask for some type of compensation from the artist as the finished product was not as specified... (I paint myself, and LOVE 4x5' canvases- but they're a bitch to ship)... You have already communicated the discrepancies to the artist... If s/he is ethical (has pride in his/her work) s/he will the do the right thing.
Good luck!
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 22, 2014 2:40:48 GMT 1, Now that I understand the 15% off... I have to say that I would kindly ask for some type of compensation from the artist as the finished product was not as specified... (I paint myself, and LOVE 4x5' canvases- but they're a b**ch to ship)... You have already communicated the discrepancies to the artist... If s/he is ethical (has pride in his/her work) s/he will the do the right thing. Good luck! Thanks @fifthspray. Any work which you can share pictures of? Always like seeing what forumites are producing.
Now that I understand the 15% off... I have to say that I would kindly ask for some type of compensation from the artist as the finished product was not as specified... (I paint myself, and LOVE 4x5' canvases- but they're a b**ch to ship)... You have already communicated the discrepancies to the artist... If s/he is ethical (has pride in his/her work) s/he will the do the right thing. Good luck! Thanks @fifthspray. Any work which you can share pictures of? Always like seeing what forumites are producing.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Wearology on Jul 22, 2014 4:09:41 GMT 1, I had a commission done by a well known artist and I did not like the finished product. I tried telling the artist nicely that I was not satisfied but they didn't get the hint. I decided to buy it and than later sold it for less than I paid for. I had another commission by an up and coming artist and paid for 1/2 up front and it is now 9 months later and the piece is still not complete and it should have taken a day or two to complete. I have had terrible luck with commissions. Hopefully the Banksy Balloon commission piece arrives safe and sound in the next few days. Will keep you posted.
I had a commission done by a well known artist and I did not like the finished product. I tried telling the artist nicely that I was not satisfied but they didn't get the hint. I decided to buy it and than later sold it for less than I paid for. I had another commission by an up and coming artist and paid for 1/2 up front and it is now 9 months later and the piece is still not complete and it should have taken a day or two to complete. I have had terrible luck with commissions. Hopefully the Banksy Balloon commission piece arrives safe and sound in the next few days. Will keep you posted.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 4:15:47 GMT 1, I had a commission done by a well known artist and I did not like the finished product. I tried telling the artist nicely that I was not satisfied but they didn't get the hint. I decided to buy it and than later sold it for less than I paid for. I had another commission by an up and coming artist and paid for 1/2 up front and it is now 9 months later and the piece is still not complete and it should have taken a day or two to complete. I have had terrible luck with commissions. Hopefully the Banksy Balloon commission piece arrives safe and sound in the next few days. Will keep you posted. It's annoying when people make promises then let you down :/
I had a commission done by a well known artist and I did not like the finished product. I tried telling the artist nicely that I was not satisfied but they didn't get the hint. I decided to buy it and than later sold it for less than I paid for. I had another commission by an up and coming artist and paid for 1/2 up front and it is now 9 months later and the piece is still not complete and it should have taken a day or two to complete. I have had terrible luck with commissions. Hopefully the Banksy Balloon commission piece arrives safe and sound in the next few days. Will keep you posted. It's annoying when people make promises then let you down :/
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Question Regarding A Commission, by kainers on Jul 22, 2014 5:28:17 GMT 1,
I had something like this happen with me. I asked for a very specific ratio on a commission I had done, that matched the length width ratio of a print I liked by the artist. The people I went through must have miscommunicated something to him as I did not get it in the originally agreed upon ratio. It really bothered me for awhile. Eventually as it hung there over time the bother went away and now I smile every time I look at it.
I had something like this happen with me. I asked for a very specific ratio on a commission I had done, that matched the length width ratio of a print I liked by the artist. The people I went through must have miscommunicated something to him as I did not get it in the originally agreed upon ratio. It really bothered me for awhile. Eventually as it hung there over time the bother went away and now I smile every time I look at it.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 22, 2014 6:08:48 GMT 1, I had a commission done by a well known artist and I did not like the finished product. I tried telling the artist nicely that I was not satisfied but they didn't get the hint. I decided to buy it and than later sold it for less than I paid for. I had another commission by an up and coming artist and paid for 1/2 up front and it is now 9 months later and the piece is still not complete and it should have taken a day or two to complete. I have had terrible luck with commissions. Hopefully the Banksy Balloon commission piece arrives safe and sound in the next few days. Will keep you posted. The balloon does look great, so look forward to seeing it on your wall. I'm in the same boat as you with another commission - about 8 months in on a deposit, and no real update.
I'm hoping it is similar to kainers where maybe it doesn't bother me... but at the moment, it sure does.
I had a commission done by a well known artist and I did not like the finished product. I tried telling the artist nicely that I was not satisfied but they didn't get the hint. I decided to buy it and than later sold it for less than I paid for. I had another commission by an up and coming artist and paid for 1/2 up front and it is now 9 months later and the piece is still not complete and it should have taken a day or two to complete. I have had terrible luck with commissions. Hopefully the Banksy Balloon commission piece arrives safe and sound in the next few days. Will keep you posted. The balloon does look great, so look forward to seeing it on your wall. I'm in the same boat as you with another commission - about 8 months in on a deposit, and no real update. I'm hoping it is similar to kainers where maybe it doesn't bother me... but at the moment, it sure does.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by gatecrasher on Jul 22, 2014 6:38:32 GMT 1, Personally I would ask them to re-do it.
I think I would always look at it on the wall and be unhappy that it wasn't as I wanted it. A discount wouldn't take that away, just make it easier to sell.
Personally I would ask them to re-do it.
I think I would always look at it on the wall and be unhappy that it wasn't as I wanted it. A discount wouldn't take that away, just make it easier to sell.
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Dungle
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Dungle on Jul 22, 2014 6:55:50 GMT 1, The commissions I've ever had done have always been above and beyind my expectations. Some have taken way longer than initially told, but that's part of it IMO. Leave the artist to it and enjoy the end result.
The commissions I've ever had done have always been above and beyind my expectations. Some have taken way longer than initially told, but that's part of it IMO. Leave the artist to it and enjoy the end result.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by LAZAKY on Jul 22, 2014 7:14:12 GMT 1, That sound sad mate! I totally agree with you guys, if you paid a specific size, you have to receive that specific size, and I don't really trust the stretch/un stretch thing, if so the canvas should have been much smaller than what you've received! Maybe the artist doesn't thought that a bit smaller size will be big deal, but for you it is! As an artist, if I have that kind of issue, I will do something for you like offer a print or a something or even do a partial refund. I don't think he/they will do another canvas for you at the exact size cause it has been commissioned and I guess that you have received different pictures of the process that you've validate, right? It's maybe just a misunderstood between you and them, and it's definitely not in their interest to let you like that, so ask them a small refund regarding what you should have paid for that size!
That sound sad mate! I totally agree with you guys, if you paid a specific size, you have to receive that specific size, and I don't really trust the stretch/un stretch thing, if so the canvas should have been much smaller than what you've received! Maybe the artist doesn't thought that a bit smaller size will be big deal, but for you it is! As an artist, if I have that kind of issue, I will do something for you like offer a print or a something or even do a partial refund. I don't think he/they will do another canvas for you at the exact size cause it has been commissioned and I guess that you have received different pictures of the process that you've validate, right? It's maybe just a misunderstood between you and them, and it's definitely not in their interest to let you like that, so ask them a small refund regarding what you should have paid for that size!
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Question Regarding A Commission, by raindogs on Jul 22, 2014 7:50:44 GMT 1, I negotiated three commissions. I am more than happy with the results. Two of the artists asked me if I was completely satisfied offering to do a different work if I don't like (but the pieces were amazing, and one of them was bigger than negotiated). The third was amazing too and ready in a month.
I negotiated three commissions. I am more than happy with the results. Two of the artists asked me if I was completely satisfied offering to do a different work if I don't like (but the pieces were amazing, and one of them was bigger than negotiated). The third was amazing too and ready in a month.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 7:57:12 GMT 1, Reading your posts you seem happy with the work itself the issue appears to be the size and from what youve said theyve acknowledged the mistake, id guess the price was based on canvass size which turned out 1/6 smaller so a 1/6 refund would be fair all round, the image wont come into it really as its a commission and artistic license and freedom means you never really know what youre getting but its more personal and therefore special, also the artist will proportionally and perspectively be painting the canvass infront of him ie 60x40 rather than the dimensions 60x48 originally agree. Wish i could see what it is, you sound like a reasonable person and im sure the artist will see that too.
Reading your posts you seem happy with the work itself the issue appears to be the size and from what youve said theyve acknowledged the mistake, id guess the price was based on canvass size which turned out 1/6 smaller so a 1/6 refund would be fair all round, the image wont come into it really as its a commission and artistic license and freedom means you never really know what youre getting but its more personal and therefore special, also the artist will proportionally and perspectively be painting the canvass infront of him ie 60x40 rather than the dimensions 60x48 originally agree. Wish i could see what it is, you sound like a reasonable person and im sure the artist will see that too.
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bjornca
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Question Regarding A Commission, by bjornca on Jul 22, 2014 8:20:15 GMT 1, Reading your posts you seem happy with the work itself the issue appears to be the size and from what youve said theyve acknowledged the mistake, id guess the price was based on canvass size which turned out 1/6 smaller so a 1/6 refund would be fair all round, the image wont come into it really as its a commission and artistic license and freedom means you never really know what youre getting but its more personal and therefore special, also the artist will proportionally and perspectively be painting the canvass infront of him ie 60x40 rather than the dimensions 60x48 originally agree. Wish i could see what it is, you sound like a reasonable person and im sure the artist will see that too. That's exactly right - I am happy with the work itself, but size is what is bothersome. As the piece is more abstract, it's not the image proportions that are the issue, but the proportions of the overall canvas (find it quite narrow for that height). I think I need to sit on it for a bit and see how my views change, and if I'm just disappointed it was screwed up to begin with (for a decent price tag). I would imagine your suggestion of a proportional reduction in price would be much fairer to both parties than to ask for it to be re-done. Obviously this isn't the desired position to be in, but fortunately it is not the reverse in that I like the dimensions, but not the image itself. Appreciate the input.
Reading your posts you seem happy with the work itself the issue appears to be the size and from what youve said theyve acknowledged the mistake, id guess the price was based on canvass size which turned out 1/6 smaller so a 1/6 refund would be fair all round, the image wont come into it really as its a commission and artistic license and freedom means you never really know what youre getting but its more personal and therefore special, also the artist will proportionally and perspectively be painting the canvass infront of him ie 60x40 rather than the dimensions 60x48 originally agree. Wish i could see what it is, you sound like a reasonable person and im sure the artist will see that too. That's exactly right - I am happy with the work itself, but size is what is bothersome. As the piece is more abstract, it's not the image proportions that are the issue, but the proportions of the overall canvas (find it quite narrow for that height). I think I need to sit on it for a bit and see how my views change, and if I'm just disappointed it was screwed up to begin with (for a decent price tag). I would imagine your suggestion of a proportional reduction in price would be much fairer to both parties than to ask for it to be re-done. Obviously this isn't the desired position to be in, but fortunately it is not the reverse in that I like the dimensions, but not the image itself. Appreciate the input.
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Question Regarding A Commission, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 8:38:40 GMT 1, Reading your posts you seem happy with the work itself the issue appears to be the size and from what youve said theyve acknowledged the mistake, id guess the price was based on canvass size which turned out 1/6 smaller so a 1/6 refund would be fair all round, the image wont come into it really as its a commission and artistic license and freedom means you never really know what youre getting but its more personal and therefore special, also the artist will proportionally and perspectively be painting the canvass infront of him ie 60x40 rather than the dimensions 60x48 originally agree. Wish i could see what it is, you sound like a reasonable person and im sure the artist will see that too. That's exactly right - I am happy with the work itself, but size is what is bothersome. As the piece is more abstract, it's not the image proportions that are the issue, but the proportions of the overall canvas (find it quite narrow for that height). I think I need to sit on it for a bit and see how my views change, and if I'm just disappointed it was screwed up to begin with (for a decent price tag). I would imagine your suggestion of a proportional reduction in price would be much fairer to both parties than to ask for it to be re-done. Obviously this isn't the desired position to be in, but fortunately it is not the reverse in that I like the dimensions, but not the image itself. Appreciate the input. Thats prob best, live with it a while and see how you feel about it being narrower, if it really bothers you still you could ask the artist would it be a possibility to sell it thro' a commercial setting and have a larger work done, if its more abstract and not so personally specific ie portrait of family member etc that may be a possibilty but also keep in mind you may not like the 2nd piece as much but at that point would have to keep it. Best of luck and hopefully someday down the line we'll get a peak of it
Reading your posts you seem happy with the work itself the issue appears to be the size and from what youve said theyve acknowledged the mistake, id guess the price was based on canvass size which turned out 1/6 smaller so a 1/6 refund would be fair all round, the image wont come into it really as its a commission and artistic license and freedom means you never really know what youre getting but its more personal and therefore special, also the artist will proportionally and perspectively be painting the canvass infront of him ie 60x40 rather than the dimensions 60x48 originally agree. Wish i could see what it is, you sound like a reasonable person and im sure the artist will see that too. That's exactly right - I am happy with the work itself, but size is what is bothersome. As the piece is more abstract, it's not the image proportions that are the issue, but the proportions of the overall canvas (find it quite narrow for that height). I think I need to sit on it for a bit and see how my views change, and if I'm just disappointed it was screwed up to begin with (for a decent price tag). I would imagine your suggestion of a proportional reduction in price would be much fairer to both parties than to ask for it to be re-done. Obviously this isn't the desired position to be in, but fortunately it is not the reverse in that I like the dimensions, but not the image itself. Appreciate the input. Thats prob best, live with it a while and see how you feel about it being narrower, if it really bothers you still you could ask the artist would it be a possibility to sell it thro' a commercial setting and have a larger work done, if its more abstract and not so personally specific ie portrait of family member etc that may be a possibilty but also keep in mind you may not like the 2nd piece as much but at that point would have to keep it. Best of luck and hopefully someday down the line we'll get a peak of it
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