10th Mountain
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by 10th Mountain on Aug 5, 2014 7:41:31 GMT 1, Sounds Cool. PM'd
Sounds Cool. PM'd
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joecool91
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by joecool91 on Aug 5, 2014 7:59:13 GMT 1, I think once it hits 100-110 you should cap it and make a reserves list like someone suggested. That way if it's a run of 100 it will def be funded but we won't have to rush to be in the first 100 out of 200 people to PM you to secure one
I think once it hits 100-110 you should cap it and make a reserves list like someone suggested. That way if it's a run of 100 it will def be funded but we won't have to rush to be in the first 100 out of 200 people to PM you to secure one
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by sondrer on Aug 5, 2014 8:24:05 GMT 1, PM sent
PM sent
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by berlin20 on Aug 5, 2014 8:53:16 GMT 1, Sounds good, I'm in
Sounds good, I'm in
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doyle
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by doyle on Aug 5, 2014 8:54:20 GMT 1, Forgive me for asking questions and diss me if it's a stoopid question but if you are taking money from people on a regular basis,you are essentially running a business? The purposed 6th star member/keeper with 20 grand in their account 2-3x year will have their bank acct manager asking questions etc so you will have to register as a company and vat number etc as it's not a charity or non-profit org?
Who will do your printing for you? Costs etc? And getting all members to agree on an artist before you take them on will be challenging in the least. Your protocol for getting rid of a member? Suggesting images for an artist to do?(page 1) mmm... who is the artist?
However, I genuinely wish you luck and you have had a great response,
Forgive me for asking questions and diss me if it's a stoopid question but if you are taking money from people on a regular basis,you are essentially running a business? The purposed 6th star member/keeper with 20 grand in their account 2-3x year will have their bank acct manager asking questions etc so you will have to register as a company and vat number etc as it's not a charity or non-profit org? Who will do your printing for you? Costs etc? And getting all members to agree on an artist before you take them on will be challenging in the least. Your protocol for getting rid of a member? Suggesting images for an artist to do?(page 1) mmm... who is the artist? However, I genuinely wish you luck and you have had a great response,
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Dungle
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Dungle on Aug 5, 2014 9:06:03 GMT 1, Forgive me for asking questions and diss me if it's a stoopid question but if you are taking money from people on a regular basis,you are essentially running a business? The purposed 6th star member/keeper with 20 grand in their account 2-3x year will have their bank acct manager asking questions etc so you will have to register as a company and vat number etc as it's not a charity or non-profit org? Who will do your printing for you? Costs etc? And getting all members to agree on an artist before you take them on will be challenging in the least. Your protocol for getting rid of a member? Suggesting images for an artist to do?(page 1) mmm... who is the artist? However, I genuinely wish you luck and you have had a great response, It would probably make sense for a separate bank account to be set up anyway requiring 2 people to authorise payments just for added security.
I also think that if it is going to be closely related to this forum then the people who are members ought to be those that actively participate in the forum.
Forgive me for asking questions and diss me if it's a stoopid question but if you are taking money from people on a regular basis,you are essentially running a business? The purposed 6th star member/keeper with 20 grand in their account 2-3x year will have their bank acct manager asking questions etc so you will have to register as a company and vat number etc as it's not a charity or non-profit org? Who will do your printing for you? Costs etc? And getting all members to agree on an artist before you take them on will be challenging in the least. Your protocol for getting rid of a member? Suggesting images for an artist to do?(page 1) mmm... who is the artist? However, I genuinely wish you luck and you have had a great response, It would probably make sense for a separate bank account to be set up anyway requiring 2 people to authorise payments just for added security. I also think that if it is going to be closely related to this forum then the people who are members ought to be those that actively participate in the forum.
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Art Fan 2011
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Art Fan 2011 on Aug 5, 2014 9:10:17 GMT 1, Forgive me for asking questions and diss me if it's a stoopid question but if you are taking money from people on a regular basis,you are essentially running a business? The purposed 6th star member/keeper with 20 grand in their account 2-3x year will have their bank acct manager asking questions etc so you will have to register as a company and vat number etc as it's not a charity or non-profit org? Who will do your printing for you? Costs etc? And getting all members to agree on an artist before you take them on will be challenging in the least. Your protocol for getting rid of a member? Suggesting images for an artist to do?(page 1) mmm... who is the artist? However, I genuinely wish you luck and you have had a great response, I agree, not sure much thought has gone into this yet. Its fairly complex to make work especially given so many people are looking to get involved (too many IMO). People wont pay, people wont like the artist chosen, artist could take years to complete the piece, artist may not even be interested (Some of the artist`s mentioned would not even get out of bed for the type of figures suggested, prints will get flipped no matter what "protection" is put into place (turning it into a private flipping club) - the list of problems is endless!!
I certainly wont be partaking but will watch how this pans out with interest, and I hope that the members get something nice at the end of it!
Also will there be a "UK" "print commission club" as this seems to of been filled up in the last 9 hours while all the Brits have been asleep?
Forgive me for asking questions and diss me if it's a stoopid question but if you are taking money from people on a regular basis,you are essentially running a business? The purposed 6th star member/keeper with 20 grand in their account 2-3x year will have their bank acct manager asking questions etc so you will have to register as a company and vat number etc as it's not a charity or non-profit org? Who will do your printing for you? Costs etc? And getting all members to agree on an artist before you take them on will be challenging in the least. Your protocol for getting rid of a member? Suggesting images for an artist to do?(page 1) mmm... who is the artist? However, I genuinely wish you luck and you have had a great response, I agree, not sure much thought has gone into this yet. Its fairly complex to make work especially given so many people are looking to get involved (too many IMO). People wont pay, people wont like the artist chosen, artist could take years to complete the piece, artist may not even be interested (Some of the artist`s mentioned would not even get out of bed for the type of figures suggested, prints will get flipped no matter what "protection" is put into place (turning it into a private flipping club) - the list of problems is endless!! I certainly wont be partaking but will watch how this pans out with interest, and I hope that the members get something nice at the end of it! Also will there be a "UK" "print commission club" as this seems to of been filled up in the last 9 hours while all the Brits have been asleep?
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 9:13:38 GMT 1, I'm just going to say I vote capping membership somewhere so this doesn't become yet another online drop style wait for the click endeavor. With the overspill another gang could be formed, like Hells Angels, you can have Urban Chapter and Street Chapter and so on, even motorbikes?, or a badge?.
I'm just going to say I vote capping membership somewhere so this doesn't become yet another online drop style wait for the click endeavor. With the overspill another gang could be formed, like Hells Angels, you can have Urban Chapter and Street Chapter and so on, even motorbikes?, or a badge?.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Paname on Aug 5, 2014 9:14:10 GMT 1, This project interests me, but we have to buy each edition? All published artists will not interest me!
This project interests me, but we have to buy each edition? All published artists will not interest me!
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Someones Brain on Aug 5, 2014 9:16:00 GMT 1, Good luck with your endeavour, even though I see a lot of trouble arising from this.
Also, I don't like that idea of a closed art/print society as I don't like the concept of closed clubs with secret handshakes etc. at all. In addition, in my opinion a closed club is contrary to the whole concept of street art and what the street art scene should be all about. If a street artist wants to do a private commission of an original he/she can of course do that. But if the artist feels the urge to release a certain image to a broader public he/she shouldn't address it to a closed group of people. At least that's my rather idealistic conception of this whole street art thing.
So I'm not in. To sum it up: I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member.
Good luck with your endeavour, even though I see a lot of trouble arising from this. Also, I don't like that idea of a closed art/print society as I don't like the concept of closed clubs with secret handshakes etc. at all. In addition, in my opinion a closed club is contrary to the whole concept of street art and what the street art scene should be all about. If a street artist wants to do a private commission of an original he/she can of course do that. But if the artist feels the urge to release a certain image to a broader public he/she shouldn't address it to a closed group of people. At least that's my rather idealistic conception of this whole street art thing. So I'm not in. To sum it up: I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member.
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Art Fan 2011
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Art Fan 2011 on Aug 5, 2014 9:18:53 GMT 1, I'm just going to say I vote capping membership somewhere so this doesn't become yet another online drop style wait for the click endeavor. With the overspill another gang could be formed, like Hells Angels, you can have Urban Chapter and Street Chapter and so on, even motorbikes?, or a badge?. A rival "gang" and the artist going with whichever club offers the most for a commission. Your right though, anyone can set one of these up, so im sure we will hear alot more about them as time goes by. Might upset a few galleries though if artist`s spend all of there time doing private commissions rather than release for them!
I'm just going to say I vote capping membership somewhere so this doesn't become yet another online drop style wait for the click endeavor. With the overspill another gang could be formed, like Hells Angels, you can have Urban Chapter and Street Chapter and so on, even motorbikes?, or a badge?. A rival "gang" and the artist going with whichever club offers the most for a commission. Your right though, anyone can set one of these up, so im sure we will hear alot more about them as time goes by. Might upset a few galleries though if artist`s spend all of there time doing private commissions rather than release for them!
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 9:19:24 GMT 1, I'm just going to say I vote capping membership somewhere so this doesn't become yet another online drop style wait for the click endeavor. With the overspill another gang could be formed, like Hells Angels, you can have Urban Chapter and Street Chapter and so on, even motorbikes?, or a badge?.
could I join the tag augmented smeared in blood chapter please?
I'm just going to say I vote capping membership somewhere so this doesn't become yet another online drop style wait for the click endeavor. With the overspill another gang could be formed, like Hells Angels, you can have Urban Chapter and Street Chapter and so on, even motorbikes?, or a badge?.
could I join the tag augmented smeared in blood chapter please?
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 9:20:44 GMT 1,
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by kfroms on Aug 5, 2014 9:35:09 GMT 1, Great idea - hope we can make this work. Pm sent.
Great idea - hope we can make this work. Pm sent.
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Nick
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Nick on Aug 5, 2014 9:55:06 GMT 1, This will be a logistical nightmare. Your best bet is to get a printing house on board before you make the proposal to the artist.
Common sense is to align one familiar with us. GraffitiPrints or GraffitiStreet for example. Next step is to persuade the artist they are a reputaple and trustworthy printing house. Again common sense says to choose an artist already aligned with said house.
Looks like if there is any chance of this happening at the sort of figures suggested then it needs to be a name like Ernest Zacharevic or Snik or Martin Whatson.
Remember that this is a big process not only for the artist but also for the printers. Your suggested total of $20k needs to be split alot of ways, with the artist only receiving maybe half.
In my mind theres zero chance that an Invader/Faile/Dolk would even consider this for that amount of money. It goes against what they do as common practice and will likely alienate other fans who don't participate on this forum.
Imagine what the Norwegian forums would say if they found out Dolk was doing a commision print of one of their favourite originals for BanksyForum. The resentment would be huge!! An artist wouldnt risk that.
All being said if this works that would be fantastic! My name's on the list. I'm not bashing, your effort, thought process and rule making is well received here. Just think it's unlikely unless you go the route i outlined above. I think most of us would be chuffed by a GP and Ernest Zach combo!
This will be a logistical nightmare. Your best bet is to get a printing house on board before you make the proposal to the artist.
Common sense is to align one familiar with us. GraffitiPrints or GraffitiStreet for example. Next step is to persuade the artist they are a reputaple and trustworthy printing house. Again common sense says to choose an artist already aligned with said house.
Looks like if there is any chance of this happening at the sort of figures suggested then it needs to be a name like Ernest Zacharevic or Snik or Martin Whatson.
Remember that this is a big process not only for the artist but also for the printers. Your suggested total of $20k needs to be split alot of ways, with the artist only receiving maybe half.
In my mind theres zero chance that an Invader/Faile/Dolk would even consider this for that amount of money. It goes against what they do as common practice and will likely alienate other fans who don't participate on this forum.
Imagine what the Norwegian forums would say if they found out Dolk was doing a commision print of one of their favourite originals for BanksyForum. The resentment would be huge!! An artist wouldnt risk that.
All being said if this works that would be fantastic! My name's on the list. I'm not bashing, your effort, thought process and rule making is well received here. Just think it's unlikely unless you go the route i outlined above. I think most of us would be chuffed by a GP and Ernest Zach combo!
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Aug 5, 2014 9:58:34 GMT 1, I won't be in, wish you luck and hope it works out though. Lot of organising and bickering!!
I won't be in, wish you luck and hope it works out though. Lot of organising and bickering!!
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JAlternatiรณn
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by JAlternatiรณn on Aug 5, 2014 10:00:20 GMT 1, The closed version of a club-only timed release makes a lot of sense to me. As long as you have an agreed minimum with the artist that is hit, they should be happy as it would be more money for them and still a small run because of the limited nature of the club. Everyone has different tastes, one man's Outis is another man's Dolk, so I think not wanting soemthing by an artist would not always be about cherry-picking, especially with the anti-flipper measures in place.
The closed version of a club-only timed release makes a lot of sense to me. As long as you have an agreed minimum with the artist that is hit, they should be happy as it would be more money for them and still a small run because of the limited nature of the club. Everyone has different tastes, one man's Outis is another man's Dolk, so I think not wanting soemthing by an artist would not always be about cherry-picking, especially with the anti-flipper measures in place.
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Art Fan 2011
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Art Fan 2011 on Aug 5, 2014 10:02:00 GMT 1, Again, I agree with the comments above. Some of the artists that we would like onboard would not do it full stop, no matter how much money on the table. Even if they did`nt mind the concept I would think you would need serious money to get some big names onboard (Ernest Zach not being a big name). I doubt even if you chucked ยฃ50,000 in Dolk`s direction he would be up for it, let alone the ยฃ12,000 already mentioned!
Artists want their art to get out to as many people as possible not just the same 100 people. They risk losing a lot of fans by taking part in these type of things.
Would be keen to know if prior to the Eelus one if this had been tried before, seems odd that no one had tried to do it before?
Anyone fancy starting a Banksy print commission club
Again, I agree with the comments above. Some of the artists that we would like onboard would not do it full stop, no matter how much money on the table. Even if they did`nt mind the concept I would think you would need serious money to get some big names onboard (Ernest Zach not being a big name). I doubt even if you chucked ยฃ50,000 in Dolk`s direction he would be up for it, let alone the ยฃ12,000 already mentioned! Artists want their art to get out to as many people as possible not just the same 100 people. They risk losing a lot of fans by taking part in these type of things. Would be keen to know if prior to the Eelus one if this had been tried before, seems odd that no one had tried to do it before? Anyone fancy starting a Banksy print commission club
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Mark Perronet on Aug 5, 2014 10:03:47 GMT 1, All sounds a little odd to me... you have to cough up quite a lot of cash for a print you havent seen and you dont even know who the artist is! I cant really believe there are people who like every artist on that list, they are so varied. Then if you don't like the print you are not meant to sell it...uh? Seems to me this is going to make quite a lot of money for whoever prints it.......and also further the commissioners status in the art world with 25 G to flash around. Whatever happened to the idea of encouraging new/emerging artists? Doesn't take long til the dollar rules.
All sounds a little odd to me... you have to cough up quite a lot of cash for a print you havent seen and you dont even know who the artist is! I cant really believe there are people who like every artist on that list, they are so varied. Then if you don't like the print you are not meant to sell it...uh? Seems to me this is going to make quite a lot of money for whoever prints it.......and also further the commissioners status in the art world with 25 G to flash around. Whatever happened to the idea of encouraging new/emerging artists? Doesn't take long til the dollar rules.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 10:14:28 GMT 1, You know when you're in the shop and you try those jeans on, and they look great, and she says they look good. So you splash out 150 quid. And then the next day, you try them on at home..and guess what, they look shit.. that's this that is.
Up there with time sharing art as an idea.
Any artist with a fan base larger than the print run will get slaughtered at the alter of unfairness. Elitism, exclusivity, against the culture, unfair... burn the witch...the backlash has already started ;-)
You know when you're in the shop and you try those jeans on, and they look great, and she says they look good. So you splash out 150 quid. And then the next day, you try them on at home..and guess what, they look shit.. that's this that is.
Up there with time sharing art as an idea.
Any artist with a fan base larger than the print run will get slaughtered at the alter of unfairness. Elitism, exclusivity, against the culture, unfair... burn the witch...the backlash has already started ;-)
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natstan
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by natstan on Aug 5, 2014 10:16:45 GMT 1, I am not knowledgeable in how a comissioned club printing goes, but I suggest writing to Eelus and ask him some questions on the logistics first, since he has done it. Questions to ask like who does the printing (Eelus releases his own prints if I'm not wrong and he should have a close printing house he works with? In that case, it might take away a lot of trouble on the club's side?), how payment is done etc etc.
As far as my emails with E goes, he is a super nice bloke who is very helpful and responsive. Give it a try...
I am not knowledgeable in how a comissioned club printing goes, but I suggest writing to Eelus and ask him some questions on the logistics first, since he has done it. Questions to ask like who does the printing (Eelus releases his own prints if I'm not wrong and he should have a close printing house he works with? In that case, it might take away a lot of trouble on the club's side?), how payment is done etc etc.
As far as my emails with E goes, he is a super nice bloke who is very helpful and responsive. Give it a try...
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Art Fan 2011
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Art Fan 2011 on Aug 5, 2014 10:21:33 GMT 1, I think a lot of people saw the words "DOLK" & "$200" - if only it was that simple!!
I think a lot of people saw the words "DOLK" & "$200" - if only it was that simple!!
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Chrisp on Aug 5, 2014 10:45:27 GMT 1, I thought great idea when I first read it, but then when thinking a little more some unlucky person is going to be spending all of the free time they have on this and more. It will be like running a large club with huge amounts of money. So much needs to be thought and taken into account. As they say in the den ... Good luck but I'm out.
I thought great idea when I first read it, but then when thinking a little more some unlucky person is going to be spending all of the free time they have on this and more. It will be like running a large club with huge amounts of money. So much needs to be thought and taken into account. As they say in the den ... Good luck but I'm out.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by joecool91 on Aug 5, 2014 10:53:24 GMT 1, To all those saying the artists risk alienating their fan base isn't this what happens with commission pieces anyways? Like banksy getting commissioned to do the piece for Simon cowell? 1 piece that was paid for and none of us got the chance to own.
To all those saying the artists risk alienating their fan base isn't this what happens with commission pieces anyways? Like banksy getting commissioned to do the piece for Simon cowell? 1 piece that was paid for and none of us got the chance to own.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by monkeyface on Aug 5, 2014 10:56:17 GMT 1, In theory this is a good idea. In reality it's wishful thinking. If it works out these will still be flipped, just 6 weeks later with one of the usual 'I've had a life event' reasons.
In theory this is a good idea. In reality it's wishful thinking. If it works out these will still be flipped, just 6 weeks later with one of the usual 'I've had a life event' reasons.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Petrusino on Aug 5, 2014 10:57:32 GMT 1, I think this works for an original, not for 100 prints. many of these artists can sell prints at any time of the year doing sold out; they do not need a commission for prints. they refuse many commissions from galleries, why they should accept a commission from the "club"? this could destroy the whole sale mechanism of galleries..
I think this works for an original, not for 100 prints. many of these artists can sell prints at any time of the year doing sold out; they do not need a commission for prints. they refuse many commissions from galleries, why they should accept a commission from the "club"? this could destroy the whole sale mechanism of galleries..
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Art Fan 2011
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Art Fan 2011 on Aug 5, 2014 11:22:34 GMT 1, I think this works for an original, not for 100 prints. many of these artists can sell prints at any time of the year doing sold out; they do not need a commission for prints. they refuse many commissions from galleries, why they should accept a commission from the "club"? this could destroy the whole sale mechanism of galleries.. All the popular artists have crazy waiting lists or rarely do them full stop. Anyone who has tried to get a commission done will know how hard it is and that`s just with 1 artist and 1 buyer!
I think this works for an original, not for 100 prints. many of these artists can sell prints at any time of the year doing sold out; they do not need a commission for prints. they refuse many commissions from galleries, why they should accept a commission from the "club"? this could destroy the whole sale mechanism of galleries.. All the popular artists have crazy waiting lists or rarely do them full stop. Anyone who has tried to get a commission done will know how hard it is and that`s just with 1 artist and 1 buyer!
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by cafebrazil on Aug 5, 2014 12:37:34 GMT 1, A cooperative commission edition is a nice idea. I don't think you can prevent the flipping of any piece selling below 'market' value. If the members really care about collecting more than the potential increase in value, in theory, they would pay the current potential value up front. For instance 1000 usd or so for a Dolk (although I agree with a prior respondent that Dolk would be nigh impossible to get).
From a sort of purist perspective, targeting artists with potential who haven't made it yet would provide a greater benefit to the art community. The co-op members get a great print, and the new artist gets a leg up--a win-win. It gives members the benefit collecting a new artist without spending thousands for an original and it gives a commission to an artist who needs it. The club can gain respect and bragging rights for unearthing new talent.
Commissioning a big name is certainly more desirable in a certain way, but the reality of what happens in the after-market for such an artist's print has to be acknowledged. No one can control what happens to a print after the original sale. Fairey works hard to stop flipping but his prints regularly show upon Ebay the day of sale.
A cooperative commission edition is a nice idea. I don't think you can prevent the flipping of any piece selling below 'market' value. If the members really care about collecting more than the potential increase in value, in theory, they would pay the current potential value up front. For instance 1000 usd or so for a Dolk (although I agree with a prior respondent that Dolk would be nigh impossible to get).
From a sort of purist perspective, targeting artists with potential who haven't made it yet would provide a greater benefit to the art community. The co-op members get a great print, and the new artist gets a leg up--a win-win. It gives members the benefit collecting a new artist without spending thousands for an original and it gives a commission to an artist who needs it. The club can gain respect and bragging rights for unearthing new talent.
Commissioning a big name is certainly more desirable in a certain way, but the reality of what happens in the after-market for such an artist's print has to be acknowledged. No one can control what happens to a print after the original sale. Fairey works hard to stop flipping but his prints regularly show upon Ebay the day of sale.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by roger on Aug 5, 2014 12:56:05 GMT 1, I understand why people think this is a good idea, but personally I think it is a step away from what appeals to me with this scene, artistic freedom and that art should be publicly available. Artists of course have to have an income, and I happily support that by buying prints from those making street art that I like. But buying exclusively made "in blanco" prints gives me more of a contemporary art vibe, where much of the art is viewed as investments. The recent trend in reselling street/urban art for huge profits is unfortunately also a step in that direction, and I believe that this will damage the whole scene in the long run.
But GLWTB.
I understand why people think this is a good idea, but personally I think it is a step away from what appeals to me with this scene, artistic freedom and that art should be publicly available. Artists of course have to have an income, and I happily support that by buying prints from those making street art that I like. But buying exclusively made "in blanco" prints gives me more of a contemporary art vibe, where much of the art is viewed as investments. The recent trend in reselling street/urban art for huge profits is unfortunately also a step in that direction, and I believe that this will damage the whole scene in the long run.
But GLWTB.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by jusdeep on Aug 5, 2014 13:00:33 GMT 1, Hate to put on a downer on what would seem like a good idea but this has been done a few times before and failed badly. Artists tend not to want to get involved in this type of co-op consortium thing.
Hate to put on a downer on what would seem like a good idea but this has been done a few times before and failed badly. Artists tend not to want to get involved in this type of co-op consortium thing.
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