sgolby
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by sgolby on Oct 3, 2014 23:57:48 GMT 1, I am going to keep try to keep this short. To allow people to take offers in private opens the floodgate for fraudulent claims of offer size. As such, no post should be allowed without a stated price.
For example:
I have a piece that I list without a price and say offers only.
Person A makes me the first offer for $500
I say I have already received offers for $550
Person A increases their offer to $600 based on a fraudulent claim that a higher offer was made.
The fact that so many of these are popping up now is ridiculous.
If you want to do an auction, have folks bid on the thread. That is transparent. All in agreement, please like this post. All not in agreement, go ahead and feel free to explain why.
S
EDIT - "go ahead and whine about my post" that was nasty, shouldn't have tried to shame people with other opinions. My Apologies.
S
I am going to keep try to keep this short. To allow people to take offers in private opens the floodgate for fraudulent claims of offer size. As such, no post should be allowed without a stated price.
For example:
I have a piece that I list without a price and say offers only.
Person A makes me the first offer for $500
I say I have already received offers for $550
Person A increases their offer to $600 based on a fraudulent claim that a higher offer was made.
The fact that so many of these are popping up now is ridiculous.
If you want to do an auction, have folks bid on the thread. That is transparent. All in agreement, please like this post. All not in agreement, go ahead and feel free to explain why.
S
EDIT - "go ahead and whine about my post" that was nasty, shouldn't have tried to shame people with other opinions. My Apologies.
S
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by connecta1 on Oct 4, 2014 0:08:30 GMT 1, ...I agree, I don't know many forums where selling is allowed without a price being stated. I also think the non-bumpable threads situation is a nonsense, it just results in people making multiple threads selling the same pieces. Properly policed, excessively bumped threads would be much less of an issue than multiple threads of the same content.
However, I've suggested all this several times before, and nobody appears to give a sh1t, so don't expect anything to happen..
...I agree, I don't know many forums where selling is allowed without a price being stated. I also think the non-bumpable threads situation is a nonsense, it just results in people making multiple threads selling the same pieces. Properly policed, excessively bumped threads would be much less of an issue than multiple threads of the same content.
However, I've suggested all this several times before, and nobody appears to give a sh1t, so don't expect anything to happen..
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Coach on Oct 4, 2014 0:10:41 GMT 1, Huh? Don't like rules.
Huh? Don't like rules.
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sgolby
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by sgolby on Oct 4, 2014 0:16:16 GMT 1, Not really, but in the read before posting thread it states you should put a price, and it happens to be a rule I agree with because I know folks hiding behind computer screens can oft be full of manure... Especially when trying to ring every last penny out of a transaction.
Not really, but in the read before posting thread it states you should put a price, and it happens to be a rule I agree with because I know folks hiding behind computer screens can oft be full of manure... Especially when trying to ring every last penny out of a transaction.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Coach on Oct 4, 2014 0:24:13 GMT 1, Not really, but in the read before posting thread it states you should put a price, and it happens to be a rule I agree with because I know folks hiding behind computer screens can oft be full of manure...ย Especially when trying to ring every last penny out of a transaction.
Honestly, less rules is best. If someone doesn't put a price, less likely to sell. But it's up to them. You can ask what the price is. Seriously, please try to keep this place fluid, loose, let people do what they want. Rules are a last resort.
Not really, but in the read before posting thread it states you should put a price, and it happens to be a rule I agree with because I know folks hiding behind computer screens can oft be full of manure...ย Especially when trying to ring every last penny out of a transaction. Honestly, less rules is best. If someone doesn't put a price, less likely to sell. But it's up to them. You can ask what the price is. Seriously, please try to keep this place fluid, loose, let people do what they want. Rules are a last resort.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 0:26:34 GMT 1, Haha, although I know instate is completely correct, seeing it all upper case makes me think of InโขState as in tuition or something
#needmyfridaynightglassofwine #or3
Haha, although I know instate is completely correct, seeing it all upper case makes me think of InโขState as in tuition or something #needmyfridaynightglassofwine #or3
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WOOF
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by WOOF on Oct 4, 2014 0:31:19 GMT 1, Or, you could just decide how much you're comfortable paying, and only pay that amount. If you don't like the person saying there's another offer, tell them to sell to that person and move on with your life.
Or, you could just decide how much you're comfortable paying, and only pay that amount. If you don't like the person saying there's another offer, tell them to sell to that person and move on with your life.
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sgolby
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by sgolby on Oct 4, 2014 0:31:27 GMT 1, Not really, but in the read before posting thread it states you should put a price, and it happens to be a rule I agree with because I know folks hiding behind computer screens can oft be full of manure... Especially when trying to ring every last penny out of a transaction. Honestly, less rules is best. If someone doesn't put a price, less likely to sell. But it's up to them. You can ask what the price is. Seriously, please try to keep this place fluid, loose, let people do what they want. Rules are a last resort. Gotcha Coach, and again, while I agree with you on the Rules as a last resort option, I feel like all the posts I see without pricing recently turn into Pissing matches and actually prevent fluidity and looseness.
Not really, but in the read before posting thread it states you should put a price, and it happens to be a rule I agree with because I know folks hiding behind computer screens can oft be full of manure... Especially when trying to ring every last penny out of a transaction. Honestly, less rules is best. If someone doesn't put a price, less likely to sell. But it's up to them. You can ask what the price is. Seriously, please try to keep this place fluid, loose, let people do what they want. Rules are a last resort. Gotcha Coach, and again, while I agree with you on the Rules as a last resort option, I feel like all the posts I see without pricing recently turn into Pissing matches and actually prevent fluidity and looseness.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by rdl81 on Oct 4, 2014 0:34:46 GMT 1, Most other forums bit art ones have all the negotiation in the tread and it only moves to pm once sale is agreed to exchange details...this seems much better to me as all out in open and less likely to have people messing the seller around via pm as well
Most other forums bit art ones have all the negotiation in the tread and it only moves to pm once sale is agreed to exchange details...this seems much better to me as all out in open and less likely to have people messing the seller around via pm as well
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by sgolby on Oct 4, 2014 0:37:48 GMT 1, Or, you could just decide how much you're comfortable paying, and only pay that amount. If you don't like the person saying there's another offer, tell them to sell to that person and move on with your life. Touche, I guess for me it is more about the fact that I come here for information about everything including pricing (In order to buy, not sell. I have yet to sell a print anywhere), and feel that whenever there is a so called sale on a no price listed thread I have a hard time with it because allows for way too many instances where a price can be inflated during the transaction by the seller, or some sort of collusion where a transaction can occur at price A, and then can be said to have been sold for A+$$$ in order to increase the perceived value by other forum members, in order to make the buyer feel as though their piece is now worth more than what was paid.
Just my feelings here, and my feelings on how to get rid of some of the REAL NEGATIVITY I see brewing on here recently.
S
Or, you could just decide how much you're comfortable paying, and only pay that amount. If you don't like the person saying there's another offer, tell them to sell to that person and move on with your life. Touche, I guess for me it is more about the fact that I come here for information about everything including pricing (In order to buy, not sell. I have yet to sell a print anywhere), and feel that whenever there is a so called sale on a no price listed thread I have a hard time with it because allows for way too many instances where a price can be inflated during the transaction by the seller, or some sort of collusion where a transaction can occur at price A, and then can be said to have been sold for A+$$$ in order to increase the perceived value by other forum members, in order to make the buyer feel as though their piece is now worth more than what was paid. Just my feelings here, and my feelings on how to get rid of some of the REAL NEGATIVITY I see brewing on here recently. S
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WOOF
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by WOOF on Oct 4, 2014 0:40:38 GMT 1, No, I get what you're saying. But on the flip side, I don't think people should be forced to disclose to the community how much they're spending on things. Art can get pricey, and people deserve their privacy.
No, I get what you're saying. But on the flip side, I don't think people should be forced to disclose to the community how much they're spending on things. Art can get pricey, and people deserve their privacy.
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sgolby
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by sgolby on Oct 4, 2014 0:43:05 GMT 1, No, I get what you're saying. But on the flip side, I don't think people should be forced to disclose to the community how much they're spending on things. Art can get pricey, and people deserve their privacy. I can absolutely appreciate that.
No, I get what you're saying. But on the flip side, I don't think people should be forced to disclose to the community how much they're spending on things. Art can get pricey, and people deserve their privacy. I can absolutely appreciate that.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Ponyboy Curtis on Oct 4, 2014 0:44:24 GMT 1, I reckon to post something for sale on here you should name a price. Otherwise delete it. Ebay is the place for offers.
I reckon to post something for sale on here you should name a price. Otherwise delete it. Ebay is the place for offers.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 0:45:16 GMT 1, My solution. Don't buy from those sellers.
I'm lucky enough not to have big cash for art, so most of the time it's not even an issue.
I've made my peace with the fact I will only ever own the Banksy I already have....
I have bought between 5-10 pieces on the forum and all were clear with their price/terms. If I want to bid on something I go to eBay, where I buy most of the time.
My solution. Don't buy from those sellers.
I'm lucky enough not to have big cash for art, so most of the time it's not even an issue.
I've made my peace with the fact I will only ever own the Banksy I already have....
I have bought between 5-10 pieces on the forum and all were clear with their price/terms. If I want to bid on something I go to eBay, where I buy most of the time.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Oct 4, 2014 0:52:05 GMT 1, I don think rules are needed..I have said for a while all sales shouldn't be appearing on the 'recent posts', so if your after a piece or selling you can browse the for sales section on your own accord. Most of us I think whether at home or on the phone just browse through the 'recent posts' section.. Take the sales threads out of this section and this forum will be a happier place
It would probably mean a lot of work for moderators?
I don think rules are needed..I have said for a while all sales shouldn't be appearing on the 'recent posts', so if your after a piece or selling you can browse the for sales section on your own accord. Most of us I think whether at home or on the phone just browse through the 'recent posts' section.. Take the sales threads out of this section and this forum will be a happier place It would probably mean a lot of work for moderators?
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WOOF
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by WOOF on Oct 4, 2014 0:59:18 GMT 1, I don think rules are needed..I have said for a while all sales shouldn't be appearing on the 'recent posts', so if your after a piece or selling you can browse the for sales section on your own accord. Most of us I think whether at home or on the phone just browse through the 'recent posts' section.. Take the sales threads out of this section and this forum will be a happier place It would probably mean a lot of work for moderators? To do this in proboards doesn't require much code at all. Should be an easy change if they want to...
I don think rules are needed..I have said for a while all sales shouldn't be appearing on the 'recent posts', so if your after a piece or selling you can browse the for sales section on your own accord. Most of us I think whether at home or on the phone just browse through the 'recent posts' section.. Take the sales threads out of this section and this forum will be a happier place It would probably mean a lot of work for moderators? To do this in proboards doesn't require much code at all. Should be an easy change if they want to...
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Jimmy Oscar on Oct 4, 2014 0:59:56 GMT 1, You're asking the lunatics to change the rules in the asylum - won't happen.
It suits those that sell more than they buy.
Its wrong - it stinks of cloak and dagger tactics - it encourages fraudulent behavior.
I know because I guy I was chatting with a couple of months ago about a piece told me my price wasn't high enough and he'd had a higher bid - I said congrats - then of course he came back to me with some BS story inside 6 hours claiming the other 'bids' (thats right apparently there was more than one higher than mine) had withdrawn and I could now have it.
I said no thanks.
Rules - no rules - do what you want - but you make the forum look shady and bordering dishonest. There are many who arent like that - the vast majority - but it is open to abuse.
If you don't want to name a price - send it to an auction - the very least you should have a minimum.
The poor guy selling his rats did that and of course he was abused and laughed at - by those who sell without naming prices of course and like the cloak and dagger world of selling on here.
Mods should stop it happening by forcing a minimum price at worst.
You're asking the lunatics to change the rules in the asylum - won't happen.
It suits those that sell more than they buy.
Its wrong - it stinks of cloak and dagger tactics - it encourages fraudulent behavior.
I know because I guy I was chatting with a couple of months ago about a piece told me my price wasn't high enough and he'd had a higher bid - I said congrats - then of course he came back to me with some BS story inside 6 hours claiming the other 'bids' (thats right apparently there was more than one higher than mine) had withdrawn and I could now have it.
I said no thanks.
Rules - no rules - do what you want - but you make the forum look shady and bordering dishonest. There are many who arent like that - the vast majority - but it is open to abuse.
If you don't want to name a price - send it to an auction - the very least you should have a minimum.
The poor guy selling his rats did that and of course he was abused and laughed at - by those who sell without naming prices of course and like the cloak and dagger world of selling on here.
Mods should stop it happening by forcing a minimum price at worst.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by commissioner on Oct 4, 2014 1:01:34 GMT 1, Welcome to the unregulated market !!
Welcome to the unregulated market !!
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WOOF
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by WOOF on Oct 4, 2014 1:02:06 GMT 1, I know because I guy I was chatting with a couple of months ago about a piece told me my price wasn't high enough and he'd had a higher bid - I said congrats - then of course he came back to me with some BS story inside 6 hours claiming the other 'bids' (thats right apparently there was more than one higher than mine) had withdrawn and I could now have it. Have you ever sold anything here? Because that shit happens ALL. THE. TIME.
I know because I guy I was chatting with a couple of months ago about a piece told me my price wasn't high enough and he'd had a higher bid - I said congrats - then of course he came back to me with some BS story inside 6 hours claiming the other 'bids' (thats right apparently there was more than one higher than mine) had withdrawn and I could now have it. Have you ever sold anything here? Because that shit happens ALL. THE. TIME.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Coach on Oct 4, 2014 1:03:59 GMT 1, No! Please don't take sales out of recent posts. That's all I use. Just leave it well alone. It's all ok. People post things for sale without a price. Fine. Up to them. My experience is that they are less likely to sell what they want to sell. That's up to them. We are all grown ups. We know when people are being up front and when they aren't. This isn't EB. Leave it alone. Please.
No! Please don't take sales out of recent posts. That's all I use. Just leave it well alone. It's all ok. People post things for sale without a price. Fine. Up to them. My experience is that they are less likely to sell what they want to sell. That's up to them. We are all grown ups. We know when people are being up front and when they aren't. This isn't EB. Leave it alone. Please.
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sgolby
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by sgolby on Oct 4, 2014 1:12:49 GMT 1, ... This isn't EB. Leave it alone. Please. Coach, i really like and respect the things you post, however on this point i think you are kiddig yourself. I have a feeling a significant number of the Beaners (nothing to do with mexicans) are coming on here more and more, some of the comments i am seeing these days are pretty much word for word, the reasons i stopped paying attention to that forum.
... This isn't EB. Leave it alone. Please. Coach, i really like and respect the things you post, however on this point i think you are kiddig yourself. I have a feeling a significant number of the Beaners (nothing to do with mexicans) are coming on here more and more, some of the comments i am seeing these days are pretty much word for word, the reasons i stopped paying attention to that forum.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 4, 2014 1:16:50 GMT 1, Or, you could just decide how much you're comfortable paying, and only pay that amount. If you don't like the person saying there's another offer, tell them to sell to that person and move on with your life. Touche, I guess for me it is more about the fact that I come here for information about everything including pricing (In order to buy, not sell. I have yet to sell a print anywhere), and feel that whenever there is a so called sale on a no price listed thread I have a hard time with it because allows for way too many instances where a price can be inflated during the transaction by the seller, or some sort of collusion where a transaction can occur at price A, and then can be said to have been sold for A+$$$ in order to increase the perceived value by other forum members, in order to make the buyer feel as though their piece is now worth more than what was paid. Just my feelings here, and my feelings on how to get rid of some of the REAL NEGATIVITY I see brewing on here recently. S Isn't that the basics of the Contemporary art market (and art market in general)? Everything is fixed and manipulated until it becomes accepted. Makes you eager to buy printed paper for ยฃ20k...
There's always gonna be people complaining.
You do not have to buy anything listed on here. If you're not happy with the price or with the way people are proceeding, don't buy & move on.
If you list a price, people will either try to lowball you or take advantage of your pricing or make fun of your unrealistic price requests.
If you don't, people think you're manipulating everything.
How many transaction I had failed through because people backed out or didn't have the cash or changed their mind? etc etc
Buyers want to buy at the lowest price & sellers want the most they can get it's logical.
I'm with coach. let people decide what they want to do. We all know that adding prices & photos get you more interest than not listing any.
I'll also add that people are not exchanging tomatoes here & there are some pieces that are ever unique or rare or expensive so they might not want their pieces totally publicized all over the internet.
Or, you could just decide how much you're comfortable paying, and only pay that amount. If you don't like the person saying there's another offer, tell them to sell to that person and move on with your life. Touche, I guess for me it is more about the fact that I come here for information about everything including pricing (In order to buy, not sell. I have yet to sell a print anywhere), and feel that whenever there is a so called sale on a no price listed thread I have a hard time with it because allows for way too many instances where a price can be inflated during the transaction by the seller, or some sort of collusion where a transaction can occur at price A, and then can be said to have been sold for A+$$$ in order to increase the perceived value by other forum members, in order to make the buyer feel as though their piece is now worth more than what was paid. Just my feelings here, and my feelings on how to get rid of some of the REAL NEGATIVITY I see brewing on here recently. S Isn't that the basics of the Contemporary art market (and art market in general)? Everything is fixed and manipulated until it becomes accepted. Makes you eager to buy printed paper for ยฃ20k... There's always gonna be people complaining. You do not have to buy anything listed on here. If you're not happy with the price or with the way people are proceeding, don't buy & move on. If you list a price, people will either try to lowball you or take advantage of your pricing or make fun of your unrealistic price requests. If you don't, people think you're manipulating everything. How many transaction I had failed through because people backed out or didn't have the cash or changed their mind? etc etc Buyers want to buy at the lowest price & sellers want the most they can get it's logical. I'm with coach. let people decide what they want to do. We all know that adding prices & photos get you more interest than not listing any. I'll also add that people are not exchanging tomatoes here & there are some pieces that are ever unique or rare or expensive so they might not want their pieces totally publicized all over the internet.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Oct 4, 2014 1:17:25 GMT 1, No! Please don't take sales out of recent posts. That's all I use. Just leave it well alone. It's all ok. People post things for sale without a price. Fine. Up to them. My experience is that they are less likely to sell what they want to sell. That's up to them. We are all grown ups. We know when people are being up front and when they aren't. This isn't EB. Leave it alone. Please.
Okay we'll leave it as it is then..
No! Please don't take sales out of recent posts. That's all I use. Just leave it well alone. It's all ok. People post things for sale without a price. Fine. Up to them. My experience is that they are less likely to sell what they want to sell. That's up to them. We are all grown ups. We know when people are being up front and when they aren't. This isn't EB. Leave it alone. Please. Okay we'll leave it as it is then..
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by sgolby on Oct 4, 2014 1:26:15 GMT 1, Buyers want to buy at the lowest price & sellers want the most they can get it's logical. I'm with coach. let people decide what they want to do. We all know that adding prices & photos get you more interest than not listing any. I'll also add that people are not exchanging tomatoes here & there are some pieces that are ever unique or rare or expensive so they might not want their pieces totally publicized all over the internet. Yes this is true, however there are also market forces at play which is why generally sales are published or at least published while occurring. When these deals are done behind closed doors it just leaves a lot of room for shady activities and fictitious price inflation.
Regarding the expensive and rare aspect, you are correct, then people should say PM for price. If you want an auction then it should be done in an open manner so people know that the bidding is real, and thus not allowing offers being made up by the seller, in order to jack up a price.
Buyers want to buy at the lowest price & sellers want the most they can get it's logical. I'm with coach. let people decide what they want to do. We all know that adding prices & photos get you more interest than not listing any. I'll also add that people are not exchanging tomatoes here & there are some pieces that are ever unique or rare or expensive so they might not want their pieces totally publicized all over the internet. Yes this is true, however there are also market forces at play which is why generally sales are published or at least published while occurring. When these deals are done behind closed doors it just leaves a lot of room for shady activities and fictitious price inflation. Regarding the expensive and rare aspect, you are correct, then people should say PM for price. If you want an auction then it should be done in an open manner so people know that the bidding is real, and thus not allowing offers being made up by the seller, in order to jack up a price.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by dsd on Oct 4, 2014 2:26:06 GMT 1, Most forums have a set if basic easy to follow guide lines . put a price on it . first person who dibs it buys it . there can be 2nd dibs and so on if deal falls through . if you want a auction put it in a auction or eb ay . This way you get what you want for it and don't mess everyone else trying to get more cash. I understand people want the most for there art but I think this way is fair to both parties. Just my two bobs worth.
Most forums have a set if basic easy to follow guide lines . put a price on it . first person who dibs it buys it . there can be 2nd dibs and so on if deal falls through . if you want a auction put it in a auction or eb ay . This way you get what you want for it and don't mess everyone else trying to get more cash. I understand people want the most for there art but I think this way is fair to both parties. Just my two bobs worth.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by kchay on Oct 4, 2014 4:25:25 GMT 1, I've already received an offer from another forum for more (rules) so you'll have to beat it if you want to stay in the running.
I've already received an offer from another forum for more (rules) so you'll have to beat it if you want to stay in the running.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 7:57:16 GMT 1, I've already received an offer from another forum for more (rules) so you'll have to beat it if you want to stay in the running.
Lol, go with that offer then. I don't feel comfortable dealing with so many rules for one thread. Glwtr (Good luck with the rules)
I've already received an offer from another forum for more (rules) so you'll have to beat it if you want to stay in the running. Lol, go with that offer then. I don't feel comfortable dealing with so many rules for one thread. Glwtr (Good luck with the rules)
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Lroy on Oct 4, 2014 8:42:13 GMT 1, Rules ? Again ? Yesterday we got a sanctimonious thread where we told ourselves what to do, to go or to do'nt go anymore, while the same who criticise the wayward members come in turn to post in the thread who criticizes the thread where they do not go anymore, etc, etc... What a crazy story, lol ! One emerges we also the forum's history, some old guard tells us again and again that what to do or not do... Rules ? Are we in a private or opened forum ? Should we have to get invitations, member's cards ? Should we come only from US or UK and not use google translate ? Have we wipe our feet and the mouse before posting here ? Is the foreign swallow must be back at the border ? ... I practiced a lot of forum in the past, nothing has changed; always the same? The worse is people who block you to don't see your comments. Contempt sometimes again... The first friends are not anymore the last ones ? A little tolerance please and accept the passenger, the foreigner or the simple member who do not thinks like you ( in art or in cooking , lol ) and does not have the means to afford a Banksy or new print each week or month. We are all and one on this forum and that is great.
Rules ? Again ? Yesterday we got a sanctimonious thread where we told ourselves what to do, to go or to do'nt go anymore, while the same who criticise the wayward members come in turn to post in the thread who criticizes the thread where they do not go anymore, etc, etc... What a crazy story, lol ! One emerges we also the forum's history, some old guard tells us again and again that what to do or not do... Rules ? Are we in a private or opened forum ? Should we have to get invitations, member's cards ? Should we come only from US or UK and not use google translate ? Have we wipe our feet and the mouse before posting here ? Is the foreign swallow must be back at the border ? ... I practiced a lot of forum in the past, nothing has changed; always the same? The worse is people who block you to don't see your comments. Contempt sometimes again... The first friends are not anymore the last ones ? A little tolerance please and accept the passenger, the foreigner or the simple member who do not thinks like you ( in art or in cooking , lol ) and does not have the means to afford a Banksy or new print each week or month. We are all and one on this forum and that is great.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 8:47:12 GMT 1, Theres one rule i wish everyone would stick to, if you agree to sell a work to someone that should be it, deal done, too many times people have agreed a price and said im getting it only to come back and say they got a higher offer, dont say youve got it unless you mean it, wait until your sure, ive paid too much at times but never backed out once agreed, ive also agreed a price and someone else has offered more but even if money hasnt exchanged hands the deal is confirmed, hindsight is a wonderful thing, dont go back on your word. Once its agreed it means if other works you want are offered you miss out because youre commited to that purchase, if the seller then pulls out you loose out on other purchases.
Theres one rule i wish everyone would stick to, if you agree to sell a work to someone that should be it, deal done, too many times people have agreed a price and said im getting it only to come back and say they got a higher offer, dont say youve got it unless you mean it, wait until your sure, ive paid too much at times but never backed out once agreed, ive also agreed a price and someone else has offered more but even if money hasnt exchanged hands the deal is confirmed, hindsight is a wonderful thing, dont go back on your word. Once its agreed it means if other works you want are offered you miss out because youre commited to that purchase, if the seller then pulls out you loose out on other purchases.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by sparky999 on Oct 4, 2014 8:50:01 GMT 1, No, I get what you're saying. But on the flip side, I don't think people should be forced to disclose to the community how much they're spending on things. Art can get pricey, and people deserve their privacy. Yeah I specifically request when I buy something that price isn't disclosed and when people message me to find out what price was paid I respectfully decline to comment.
I get the issue with sellers misrepresenting offers made but at the end of the day only bid what you think the piece is worth and if that's enough then great if not move on to another thread.
Not posting pictures and prices in a thread really pisses me off though so if we are gonna go on a witch hut for that then I'm down I once opened a thread that had a Penny for sale and ended up buying an even pricier piece by an artist I never had even heard of before that thread. If there had been no pics and prices in that thread I would have just bought the Penny.
No, I get what you're saying. But on the flip side, I don't think people should be forced to disclose to the community how much they're spending on things. Art can get pricey, and people deserve their privacy. Yeah I specifically request when I buy something that price isn't disclosed and when people message me to find out what price was paid I respectfully decline to comment. I get the issue with sellers misrepresenting offers made but at the end of the day only bid what you think the piece is worth and if that's enough then great if not move on to another thread. Not posting pictures and prices in a thread really pisses me off though so if we are gonna go on a witch hut for that then I'm down I once opened a thread that had a Penny for sale and ended up buying an even pricier piece by an artist I never had even heard of before that thread. If there had been no pics and prices in that thread I would have just bought the Penny.
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