jayTown
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February 2013
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by jayTown on Nov 26, 2014 17:30:27 GMT 1, Would of picked one up for half that price, but at ยฃ340 there is other prints id rather buy. Printthemall did the same with the last TILT print, nice image by a great artist, but the print was over priced and is subsequently still available. With all the hype around Zach itl be interesting to see if these sell even at that price! Thing is i think it's valued against the process which to be fair is of a really high standard. Unfortunately when you're looking at it as a picture it's hard to see the superior quality and justify the higher prices.
...still love that TILT. Would of snapped that up if it was cheaper.
Would of picked one up for half that price, but at ยฃ340 there is other prints id rather buy. Printthemall did the same with the last TILT print, nice image by a great artist, but the print was over priced and is subsequently still available. With all the hype around Zach itl be interesting to see if these sell even at that price! Thing is i think it's valued against the process which to be fair is of a really high standard. Unfortunately when you're looking at it as a picture it's hard to see the superior quality and justify the higher prices. ...still love that TILT. Would of snapped that up if it was cheaper.
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student42
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March 2012
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by student42 on Nov 26, 2014 17:43:18 GMT 1, Their price might seem high, but Print Them All sells out most of their prints, just in a matter of months not minutes. They do not generate a lot of hype with insta-sellouts, but you do not see a lot of their prints being flipped either. Most end up in collectors hands and PTA maximizes profit by leaving little short term margin for the aftermarket.
They are patient. These prints will sell.
Their price might seem high, but Print Them All sells out most of their prints, just in a matter of months not minutes. They do not generate a lot of hype with insta-sellouts, but you do not see a lot of their prints being flipped either. Most end up in collectors hands and PTA maximizes profit by leaving little short term margin for the aftermarket.
They are patient. These prints will sell.
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January 1970
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 18:24:39 GMT 1, I don't have enough $$ to afford it, but I think it is priced right. Top artist, great image, quality printer, low edition. Sounds right to me. I wouldn't hesitate buying it if I were able to come up with the cash
(time to have a flip through the portfolio )
as is always the case, just because you (or I) can't afford it, doesn't mean it's overpriced
I don't have enough $$ to afford it, but I think it is priced right. Top artist, great image, quality printer, low edition. Sounds right to me. I wouldn't hesitate buying it if I were able to come up with the cash (time to have a flip through the portfolio ) as is always the case, just because you (or I) can't afford it, doesn't mean it's overpriced
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dranfan14
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January 2014
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by dranfan14 on Nov 26, 2014 18:29:29 GMT 1, going to try for this. price seems fair to me... but I love this guys work
going to try for this. price seems fair to me... but I love this guys work
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Fะฏ
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May 2013
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Fะฏ on Nov 26, 2014 20:33:09 GMT 1, What quantifies it as being overpriced? Other prints of his sell for more. Which ones? All of them apart from enjoy graffiti because dumbo ebay flippers managed to saturate the whole universe and it's dog
What quantifies it as being overpriced? Other prints of his sell for more. Which ones? All of them apart from enjoy graffiti because dumbo ebay flippers managed to saturate the whole universe and it's dog
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M
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February 2011
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by M on Nov 26, 2014 21:50:52 GMT 1, I really do like the image, but if they don't list the price before the drop, I'll sit this one out on principle. It's a s**tty way to do business, and take advantage of your customers Personally I don't like Mordrian ;p
I really do like the image, but if they don't list the price before the drop, I'll sit this one out on principle. It's a s**tty way to do business, and take advantage of your customers Personally I don't like Mordrian ;p
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sgolby
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November 2012
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by sgolby on Nov 26, 2014 22:49:16 GMT 1, As you mentioned, bigger edition does crucial difference with pricing as the cost per print in edition of 60 or edition of 200, is significantly different. Also, myFINBEC are primarily a winery, so their business plan and funding are significantly different than ours. We are a printing company 100% focused on creating highest quality editions by the worlds leading urban and street artists, something not many printing companies are doing. Btw, PTA actually printed myFINBEC releases which explains our crown logo on their stamp: Hope this explains it. Thank you! Right... You are ART BANKSTERS!!! What a shame No, not necessarily. Anything you would buy from idem is priced significantly higher than this print. Further, as Print Them All mentioned, they likely look at sales of the wine, and the print as one package. Further, the finebec prints were only 80 pounds less for an editoon more than twice the size. just saying... s
As you mentioned, bigger edition does crucial difference with pricing as the cost per print in edition of 60 or edition of 200, is significantly different. Also, myFINBEC are primarily a winery, so their business plan and funding are significantly different than ours. We are a printing company 100% focused on creating highest quality editions by the worlds leading urban and street artists, something not many printing companies are doing. Btw, PTA actually printed myFINBEC releases which explains our crown logo on their stamp: Hope this explains it. Thank you! Right... You are ART BANKSTERS!!! What a shame No, not necessarily. Anything you would buy from idem is priced significantly higher than this print. Further, as Print Them All mentioned, they likely look at sales of the wine, and the print as one package. Further, the finebec prints were only 80 pounds less for an editoon more than twice the size. just saying... s
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commissioner
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May 2014
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by commissioner on Nov 27, 2014 0:53:52 GMT 1,
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kbfrombk
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October 2013
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by kbfrombk on Nov 27, 2014 1:31:05 GMT 1, definitely not Against it.
definitely not Against it.
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kunstrasen
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by kunstrasen on Nov 27, 2014 7:57:15 GMT 1, All of them apart from enjoy graffiti because dumbo ebay flippers managed to saturate the whole universe and it's dog Utter bullshit...apart from the Style Wars non of his prints sell anywhere near that...
All of them apart from enjoy graffiti because dumbo ebay flippers managed to saturate the whole universe and it's dog Utter bullshit...apart from the Style Wars non of his prints sell anywhere near that...
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Fะฏ
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Fะฏ on Nov 27, 2014 8:40:16 GMT 1, All of them apart from enjoy graffiti because dumbo ebay flippers managed to saturate the whole universe and it's dog Utter bulls**t...apart from the Style Wars non of his prints sell anywhere near that... Yes they do, look on ebay.
All of them apart from enjoy graffiti because dumbo ebay flippers managed to saturate the whole universe and it's dog Utter bulls**t...apart from the Style Wars non of his prints sell anywhere near that... Yes they do, look on ebay.
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dazarino
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October 2012
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by dazarino on Nov 27, 2014 8:46:59 GMT 1, No chance ยฃ340? Easy pass, it seems worryingly that ยฃ300 is now the Base price for prints these days.I understand with miss bugs and phlegm but this guy is too new on block and should have been a cheap pick up. Sorry peeps but don't get the pricing.can't get excited about this
Good luck for everyone who goes for it though
No chance ยฃ340? Easy pass, it seems worryingly that ยฃ300 is now the Base price for prints these days.I understand with miss bugs and phlegm but this guy is too new on block and should have been a cheap pick up. Sorry peeps but don't get the pricing.can't get excited about this Good luck for everyone who goes for it though
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kunstrasen
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by kunstrasen on Nov 27, 2014 9:01:07 GMT 1, Utter bulls**t...apart from the Style Wars non of his prints sell anywhere near that... Yes they do, look on ebay. Have done that...have you?
Utter bulls**t...apart from the Style Wars non of his prints sell anywhere near that... Yes they do, look on ebay. Have done that...have you?
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dazarino
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October 2012
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by dazarino on Nov 27, 2014 9:21:37 GMT 1, I know our forum can get heated with opinions sometimes but members on here do know pricing. I hope this release won't put off new collectors buying his work in the future if his costs stay the same.
I know our forum can get heated with opinions sometimes but members on here do know pricing. I hope this release won't put off new collectors buying his work in the future if his costs stay the same.
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kristakis
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by kristakis on Nov 27, 2014 10:25:52 GMT 1, Ill pay the extra for a high quality print if im honest - makes a big difference to the artwork. As much as i liked the different strokes print, I felt the quality of print and colour was lacking. Hopefully this one will be more simpathetic to his style of painting. Personally love zachs work - original and refreshing amongst alot of pretentious crap that gets released nowadays
Ill pay the extra for a high quality print if im honest - makes a big difference to the artwork. As much as i liked the different strokes print, I felt the quality of print and colour was lacking. Hopefully this one will be more simpathetic to his style of painting. Personally love zachs work - original and refreshing amongst alot of pretentious crap that gets released nowadays
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Shoot Again
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Shoot Again on Nov 27, 2014 10:28:02 GMT 1,
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BKBOI
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by BKBOI on Nov 27, 2014 10:32:06 GMT 1, why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist.
why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist.
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alittle
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November 2012
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by alittle on Nov 27, 2014 10:37:38 GMT 1, I have zero interest in purchasing the print, but I'm surprised people are so offended by the price. This isn't his first release, and it is a low run offering from the most storied print shop out there. Sure there isn't much money (if any) to be made by someone looking to capitalize on the secondary market, but I have no doubt that this will sell out. Perhaps not in 5 minutes, but I'd be shocked to see this last more than a week in the shop.
I have zero interest in purchasing the print, but I'm surprised people are so offended by the price. This isn't his first release, and it is a low run offering from the most storied print shop out there. Sure there isn't much money (if any) to be made by someone looking to capitalize on the secondary market, but I have no doubt that this will sell out. Perhaps not in 5 minutes, but I'd be shocked to see this last more than a week in the shop.
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:41:28 GMT 1, why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. I agree ebtroll, as a relative new comer to this forum I see a lot of talk about prices instead of passion for the image and work (just to clarify, I'm not saying there is no passion for art work on this site, I am saying I've seen a lot of 'money' talk!).
why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. I agree ebtroll, as a relative new comer to this forum I see a lot of talk about prices instead of passion for the image and work (just to clarify, I'm not saying there is no passion for art work on this site, I am saying I've seen a lot of 'money' talk!).
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dazarino
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by dazarino on Nov 27, 2014 10:47:52 GMT 1, Well if people can't afford to buy the print it does become an issue. ยฃ350 is probably the UK average weekly take home so for most people this is taken into consideration when purchasing artwork.
Well if people can't afford to buy the print it does become an issue. ยฃ350 is probably the UK average weekly take home so for most people this is taken into consideration when purchasing artwork.
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kunstrasen
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by kunstrasen on Nov 27, 2014 10:52:11 GMT 1, why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management...
Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon...
why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon...
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January 1970
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:52:27 GMT 1, Well if people can't afford to buy the print it does become an issue. ยฃ350 is probably the UK average weekly take home so for most people this is taken into consideration when purchasing artwork. Well, dazarino, I'd like to go out and buy a RR Wraith (I wouldn't actually, I'm just using it as an example) but I can't afford one so it's not an issue, I don't buy one.
Well if people can't afford to buy the print it does become an issue. ยฃ350 is probably the UK average weekly take home so for most people this is taken into consideration when purchasing artwork. Well, dazarino, I'd like to go out and buy a RR Wraith (I wouldn't actually, I'm just using it as an example) but I can't afford one so it's not an issue, I don't buy one.
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:52:44 GMT 1, why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist.
Well that would be in a perfect world. Sadly this forum is going the same way as Espresso Beans and shows sometimes how the main interest is how much money can be made on a print.
why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. Well that would be in a perfect world. Sadly this forum is going the same way as Espresso Beans and shows sometimes how the main interest is how much money can be made on a print.
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alittle
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November 2012
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by alittle on Nov 27, 2014 10:53:28 GMT 1, Collecting limited art is not a right. I don't think most releases cater to the average person. The average person buys a mass produced printed canvas at IKEA.
Collecting limited art is not a right. I don't think most releases cater to the average person. The average person buys a mass produced printed canvas at IKEA.
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:55:55 GMT 1, What quantifies it as being overpriced? Other prints of his sell for more. I agree. If the price was too low everyone would be complaining about flippers saturating the market and real collectors missing out on a print they would like to own and cherish.
What quantifies it as being overpriced? Other prints of his sell for more. I agree. If the price was too low everyone would be complaining about flippers saturating the market and real collectors missing out on a print they would like to own and cherish.
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:59:47 GMT 1, I don't have enough $$ to afford it, but I think it is priced right. Top artist, great image, quality printer, low edition. Sounds right to me. I wouldn't hesitate buying it if I were able to come up with the cash (time to have a flip through the portfolio ) as is always the case, just because you (or I) can't afford it, doesn't mean it's overpriced Exactly fed, well said. Most of the people complaining about the price are probably sat on a portfolio of prints, sell one of those if you dearly want to own this.
Will it look over-priced in a year, two years time?
I don't have enough $$ to afford it, but I think it is priced right. Top artist, great image, quality printer, low edition. Sounds right to me. I wouldn't hesitate buying it if I were able to come up with the cash (time to have a flip through the portfolio ) as is always the case, just because you (or I) can't afford it, doesn't mean it's overpriced Exactly fed, well said. Most of the people complaining about the price are probably sat on a portfolio of prints, sell one of those if you dearly want to own this. Will it look over-priced in a year, two years time?
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BKBOI
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January 2013
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by BKBOI on Nov 27, 2014 11:02:17 GMT 1, This hobby is really not getting affordable, that's for sure. I remember complaining during the Eine Revolution release that the artist copycat was selling a troll print that was a giclee and charging 75 quid for it.
This hobby is really not getting affordable, that's for sure. I remember complaining during the Eine Revolution release that the artist copycat was selling a troll print that was a giclee and charging 75 quid for it.
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January 1970
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 11:02:42 GMT 1, ] Will it look over-priced in a year, two years time?[/quote]
Probably.
] Will it look over-priced in a year, two years time?[/quote]
Probably.
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Shoot Again
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by Shoot Again on Nov 27, 2014 11:08:08 GMT 1, why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon... Former print was a "giclee"... quality of this one will just make them not comparable IMO ;-)
why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon... Former print was a "giclee"... quality of this one will just make them not comparable IMO ;-)
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kunstrasen
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August 2009
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New Ernest Z print incoming..., by kunstrasen on Nov 27, 2014 11:11:02 GMT 1, True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon... Former print was a "giclee"... quality of this one will just make them not comparable IMO ;-) ...guess that's true. Just think it would have been possible to price this a bit more supporter friendly.
True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon... Former print was a "giclee"... quality of this one will just make them not comparable IMO ;-) ...guess that's true. Just think it would have been possible to price this a bit more supporter friendly.
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