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Has this place changed? , by 11 on Oct 29, 2015 0:48:02 GMT 1, I think threads like this are quite good for everyone to check themselves and question what they bring to the forum - it is after all a community and it isn't about guardians or individuals and far more about how we transition and develop as a group.
There is a bit of a Dismal hangover and at the same time the show has brought about the inevitable wave of interest and speculative buyers / sellers. Us guards are only here to keep things tidy and encourage civil behaviour if things get out of hand, (as Otto said) everything else is down to everyone to be community spirited in discouraging bad behaviour and contributing in the ways we can.
I myself, have dropped off since dismaland - I was thoroughly enjoying (most of) the year on here but think it has been so full on through September we've all needed time to recover - I did anyway
The crap that flew at the start of Q2 was unfortunate and we lost some good people, but many are back anyway and I don't think its worth dwelling on any of it anymore. There have been many positives since and the forum, on the whole has vastly improved (IMO).
I just think that many of us have been a little jaded since getting excited over a shoddy theme park and that has allowed the price checks, sales threads, and cheating bastads pushing 50 posts to flood the place with dross. So lets all start getting back on track and pulling together to get some good stuff going again.
Coach - good thread .....and Hi everyone - hope you've missed me
I think threads like this are quite good for everyone to check themselves and question what they bring to the forum - it is after all a community and it isn't about guardians or individuals and far more about how we transition and develop as a group. There is a bit of a Dismal hangover and at the same time the show has brought about the inevitable wave of interest and speculative buyers / sellers. Us guards are only here to keep things tidy and encourage civil behaviour if things get out of hand, (as Otto said) everything else is down to everyone to be community spirited in discouraging bad behaviour and contributing in the ways we can. I myself, have dropped off since dismaland - I was thoroughly enjoying (most of) the year on here but think it has been so full on through September we've all needed time to recover - I did anyway The crap that flew at the start of Q2 was unfortunate and we lost some good people, but many are back anyway and I don't think its worth dwelling on any of it anymore. There have been many positives since and the forum, on the whole has vastly improved (IMO). I just think that many of us have been a little jaded since getting excited over a shoddy theme park and that has allowed the price checks, sales threads, and cheating bastads pushing 50 posts to flood the place with dross. So lets all start getting back on track and pulling together to get some good stuff going again. Coach - good thread .....and Hi everyone - hope you've missed me
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BKBOI
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Has this place changed? , by BKBOI on Oct 29, 2015 1:42:56 GMT 1, a thread where most posts are made by forum guardians. no need to defend this forum. on a down cycle. still informed me about recent releases without being on every artist's mailing list. this will get back to regular programming soon.
love this site and will continue to check here everyday
a thread where most posts are made by forum guardians. no need to defend this forum. on a down cycle. still informed me about recent releases without being on every artist's mailing list. this will get back to regular programming soon.
love this site and will continue to check here everyday
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Dr Plip
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Has this place changed? , by Dr Plip on Oct 29, 2015 3:01:11 GMT 1, I don't think this place has necessarily changed. I think urban/street art has though. It got gentrified to a certain degree and when prints start changing hands for real money, it's inevitable that the forum will also feel that effect as people use it as a tool or resource to buy and sell the latest (or oldest) hot thing.
But keep it real. Counter the posts you don't like on here by posting the kind of things you enjoy reading and seeing. The forum's one big collaboration. We all get to put into it and share the wealth (although the actual physical money goes to Daniel Silk).
I think it sometimes feels like the print peddlers are everywhere, but I think we can all add something to the forum. It doesn't have to be all price checks and flip fights.
As has been said, it's good to take stock and look at what you want from the forum and what you can possibly do to help make it a fun, informative and vibrant place.
Oh, and anarchy.
I don't think this place has necessarily changed. I think urban/street art has though. It got gentrified to a certain degree and when prints start changing hands for real money, it's inevitable that the forum will also feel that effect as people use it as a tool or resource to buy and sell the latest (or oldest) hot thing.
But keep it real. Counter the posts you don't like on here by posting the kind of things you enjoy reading and seeing. The forum's one big collaboration. We all get to put into it and share the wealth (although the actual physical money goes to Daniel Silk).
I think it sometimes feels like the print peddlers are everywhere, but I think we can all add something to the forum. It doesn't have to be all price checks and flip fights.
As has been said, it's good to take stock and look at what you want from the forum and what you can possibly do to help make it a fun, informative and vibrant place.
Oh, and anarchy.
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Has this place changed? , by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 8:39:03 GMT 1, Amen. Ai Wei Wei thread - did eve make 2 pages? Street art thread gets looked at by about 5 people. Spot on. I must admit that I've not made the best effort recently. I've been put off by the constant talk of the value of this or that banksy print! But I will make more effort. So true !! Lengthy posts about value of this or this is really tiring, the most pathetic thread being all the bulls*ht discussion about Stik !! Let alone the Banksy hangover and that get-the-most-of-it mentality and one FG who behave(d) badly...
This said, I still come everyday to see what's going on and got somehow attached to all your little avatars
Amen. Ai Wei Wei thread - did eve make 2 pages? Street art thread gets looked at by about 5 people. Spot on. I must admit that I've not made the best effort recently. I've been put off by the constant talk of the value of this or that banksy print! But I will make more effort. So true !! Lengthy posts about value of this or this is really tiring, the most pathetic thread being all the bulls*ht discussion about Stik !! Let alone the Banksy hangover and that get-the-most-of-it mentality and one FG who behave(d) badly... This said, I still come everyday to see what's going on and got somehow attached to all your little avatars
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Has this place changed? , by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Oct 29, 2015 9:16:46 GMT 1, The focus is on the print releases rather than on the Street Art / Urban Art world.
I'm a long time art fan and have lots of photos and memories of shows and street works over the years (a collection that cost almost literally nothing), but have only much more recently started buying prints.
With prints often being "unobtainable, unaffordable or completely unlikeable' it seems inevitable that the discussions on the forum dissolve into conversations around these three subjects unobtainable: flippers, speculators, hoarders, ebay, prices on the secondary market. Unaffordable: How much!!! ยฃx for a new/emerging artist, flippers, eBay, Auctions Unlikeable: Too many conversations like Art Critic 1"that arts crap" Art Critic 2 "yeah but art is subjective", which don't really go anywhere.
My view, if prints were more affordable, attainable and there were less releases and the demand for quality was higher, this would lead to less hoarding by speculators in a flat file/plan chest and I expect that there would be more conversations about the actual art on peoples walls, on the streets and at shows - if there wasn't money in those hills I am sure that this forum would be a totally different place and would sort those that love the art from those that see ยฃยฃยฃ$$$ยฃยฃยฃ.
In contrast being a long time music obsessive the great thing about new album drops however hyped the artist was that they were cheap, available to all (like Warhol's can of Pepsi, the Pepsi I drink is the same as the one Obama drinks is the same one the Beckhams drinks etc) and we could all discuss the merits or not of the album adnauseum, the odd limited edition release was a bonus.
The focus is on the print releases rather than on the Street Art / Urban Art world.
I'm a long time art fan and have lots of photos and memories of shows and street works over the years (a collection that cost almost literally nothing), but have only much more recently started buying prints.
With prints often being "unobtainable, unaffordable or completely unlikeable' it seems inevitable that the discussions on the forum dissolve into conversations around these three subjects unobtainable: flippers, speculators, hoarders, ebay, prices on the secondary market. Unaffordable: How much!!! ยฃx for a new/emerging artist, flippers, eBay, Auctions Unlikeable: Too many conversations like Art Critic 1"that arts crap" Art Critic 2 "yeah but art is subjective", which don't really go anywhere.
My view, if prints were more affordable, attainable and there were less releases and the demand for quality was higher, this would lead to less hoarding by speculators in a flat file/plan chest and I expect that there would be more conversations about the actual art on peoples walls, on the streets and at shows - if there wasn't money in those hills I am sure that this forum would be a totally different place and would sort those that love the art from those that see ยฃยฃยฃ$$$ยฃยฃยฃ.
In contrast being a long time music obsessive the great thing about new album drops however hyped the artist was that they were cheap, available to all (like Warhol's can of Pepsi, the Pepsi I drink is the same as the one Obama drinks is the same one the Beckhams drinks etc) and we could all discuss the merits or not of the album adnauseum, the odd limited edition release was a bonus.
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Has this place changed? , by Lroy on Oct 29, 2015 10:45:05 GMT 1, Well, that is true that ( oh, I hear," not him again ! " lol ;-) ) , if you have a golbal view on your phone, you have just deals appearing ( sales mostly or " want " ) ... I post yesterday night an interesting thread aoubt street-art adn the " after dsiamaldn " but nobody has answered me apart to say taht they don't understand anything ! Lol! is it funny ? I find it funny anyway ! Contemporary art threads but royston the goalkeeper...
Keep on Coach !! And the JR Book is great too ( we had conversations about no ? ;-) !
Well, that is true that ( oh, I hear," not him again ! " lol ;-) ) , if you have a golbal view on your phone, you have just deals appearing ( sales mostly or " want " ) ... I post yesterday night an interesting thread aoubt street-art adn the " after dsiamaldn " but nobody has answered me apart to say taht they don't understand anything ! Lol! is it funny ? I find it funny anyway ! Contemporary art threads but royston the goalkeeper... Keep on Coach !! And the JR Book is great too ( we had conversations about no ? ;-) !
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Has this place changed? , by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 11:11:50 GMT 1, Well, that is true that ( oh, I hear," not him again ! " lol ;-) ) , if you have a golbal view on your phone, you have just deals appearing ( sales mostly or " want " ) ... I post yesterday night an interesting thread aoubt street-art adn the " after dsiamaldn " but nobody has answered me apart to say taht they don't understand anything ! Lol! is it funny ? I find it funny anyway ! Contemporary art threads but royston the goalkeeper... Keep onย Coach !! And the JR Book is great too ( we had conversations about no ? ;-) !
We did. Thanks Roy.
Well, that is true that ( oh, I hear," not him again ! " lol ;-) ) , if you have a golbal view on your phone, you have just deals appearing ( sales mostly or " want " ) ... I post yesterday night an interesting thread aoubt street-art adn the " after dsiamaldn " but nobody has answered me apart to say taht they don't understand anything ! Lol! is it funny ? I find it funny anyway ! Contemporary art threads but royston the goalkeeper... Keep onย Coach !! And the JR Book is great too ( we had conversations about no ? ;-) ! We did. Thanks Roy.
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tuftynuts
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Has this place changed? , by tuftynuts on Oct 29, 2015 16:05:11 GMT 1, Also I suggested over a year ago keep sales threads in a sales only section and they don't appear in 'recent posts'.. This should hopefully reduce people getting involved in arguments ? As most use 'recent posts' on a daily basis..
I think sales threads are vital to the lifeblood of the forum. If they went or were restricted the forum would see a huge drop in interest.
I believe people have a right to sell what they own and for a price they choose without having to explain why they are selling. The same way buyers have a right to pay what they want or not. A good transaction involves selling for a good price to someone who believes they are getting a good deal.
While discussion and the sharing of information helps that process, the low level sniping that accompanies it comes from a very different place. Its the snipers who a) discourage a decent conversation and b) ruin the selling process, not the sellers or the sales platform.
Also I suggested over a year ago keep sales threads in a sales only section and they don't appear in 'recent posts'.. This should hopefully reduce people getting involved in arguments ? As most use 'recent posts' on a daily basis.. I think sales threads are vital to the lifeblood of the forum. If they went or were restricted the forum would see a huge drop in interest. I believe people have a right to sell what they own and for a price they choose without having to explain why they are selling. The same way buyers have a right to pay what they want or not. A good transaction involves selling for a good price to someone who believes they are getting a good deal. While discussion and the sharing of information helps that process, the low level sniping that accompanies it comes from a very different place. Its the snipers who a) discourage a decent conversation and b) ruin the selling process, not the sellers or the sales platform.
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tab1
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Has this place changed? , by tab1 on Oct 29, 2015 16:40:57 GMT 1, Also I suggested over a year ago keep sales threads in a sales only section and they don't appear in 'recent posts'.. This should hopefully reduce people getting involved in arguments ? As most use 'recent posts' on a daily basis.. ย I think sales threads are vital to the lifeblood of the forum. If they went or were restricted the forum would see a huge drop in interest. I believe people have a right to sell what they own and for a price they choose without having to explain why they are selling. The same way buyers have a right to pay what they want or not. A good transaction involves selling for a good price to someone who believes they are getting a good deal. While discussion and the sharing of information helps that process, the low level sniping that accompanies it comes from a very different place. Its the snipers who a) discourage a decent conversation and b) ruin the selling process, not the sellers or the sales platform.
Every popular print release there is someone that thinks they're more entitled to the print they missed out on and then posts negatives on any sellers that sell straight after, But the same people that gripe do the same thing , just sell on other forums ;-)
Still a good place to find up coming events , and discussions are still there , just not so much passion.
Latest art buys and introducing new work to people is good .
Think there was more banter years ago? Payney still a member?
Also I suggested over a year ago keep sales threads in a sales only section and they don't appear in 'recent posts'.. This should hopefully reduce people getting involved in arguments ? As most use 'recent posts' on a daily basis.. ย I think sales threads are vital to the lifeblood of the forum. If they went or were restricted the forum would see a huge drop in interest. I believe people have a right to sell what they own and for a price they choose without having to explain why they are selling. The same way buyers have a right to pay what they want or not. A good transaction involves selling for a good price to someone who believes they are getting a good deal. While discussion and the sharing of information helps that process, the low level sniping that accompanies it comes from a very different place. Its the snipers who a) discourage a decent conversation and b) ruin the selling process, not the sellers or the sales platform. Every popular print release there is someone that thinks they're more entitled to the print they missed out on and then posts negatives on any sellers that sell straight after, But the same people that gripe do the same thing , just sell on other forums ;-) Still a good place to find up coming events , and discussions are still there , just not so much passion. Latest art buys and introducing new work to people is good . Think there was more banter years ago? Payney still a member?
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Has this place changed? , by Aza on Oct 29, 2015 19:07:56 GMT 1, If I tell you I'd have to kill you. Or is it me that gets killed? I always forget.
If I tell you I'd have to kill you. Or is it me that gets killed? I always forget.
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tab1
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Has this place changed? , by tab1 on Oct 29, 2015 19:37:47 GMT 1, Still a secret then :-( Where a few old members here now frequent
Still a secret then :-( Where a few old members here now frequent
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Has this place changed? , by Happy Shopper on Oct 29, 2015 19:54:01 GMT 1, I don't know why it is that when Mr Brainwash releases a print we get regular updates, but when there's actually something good happening no one posts!?
What we need is more people posting interesting news. Get a newsletter from a gallery with a good new release, then start a thread for it.
I don't know why it is that when Mr Brainwash releases a print we get regular updates, but when there's actually something good happening no one posts!?
What we need is more people posting interesting news. Get a newsletter from a gallery with a good new release, then start a thread for it.
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Has this place changed? , by davievegas on Oct 29, 2015 20:16:13 GMT 1, I don't know why it is that when Mr Brainwash releases a print we get regular updates, but when there's actually something good happening no one posts!? What we need is more people posting interesting news. Get a newsletter from a gallery with a good new release, then start a thread for it. IMO it seems that no matter who the artist is as long as he/she is popular(and people can make a buck off of them), people only care about investment collecting/flipping on most boards now a days. Seems this board is getting more and more investment collectors/flippers each month. Think about it. This is probably one of few boards that post big time artist release dates etc. EB does not have a wide variety of release information like this board of collectors has. People sign up here and check it a bunch of times daily to find out release dates that they cant find on EB unless they go to each big artist and sign up for the newsletter of every artist you can think of. Just my opinion.
A suggestion to stop this would be making a release date thread and only allowing people with certain post counts to see it. Just an idea of course but could be affective.
I don't know why it is that when Mr Brainwash releases a print we get regular updates, but when there's actually something good happening no one posts!? What we need is more people posting interesting news. Get a newsletter from a gallery with a good new release, then start a thread for it. IMO it seems that no matter who the artist is as long as he/she is popular(and people can make a buck off of them), people only care about investment collecting/flipping on most boards now a days. Seems this board is getting more and more investment collectors/flippers each month. Think about it. This is probably one of few boards that post big time artist release dates etc. EB does not have a wide variety of release information like this board of collectors has. People sign up here and check it a bunch of times daily to find out release dates that they cant find on EB unless they go to each big artist and sign up for the newsletter of every artist you can think of. Just my opinion. A suggestion to stop this would be making a release date thread and only allowing people with certain post counts to see it. Just an idea of course but could be affective.
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Black Apple Art
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Has this place changed? , by Black Apple Art on Oct 29, 2015 21:23:35 GMT 1, I don't know why it is that when Mr Brainwash releases a print we get regular updates, but when there's actually something good happening no one posts!? What we need is more people posting interesting news. Get a newsletter from a gallery with a good new release, then start a thread for it. Other prints people actually might want a shot at getting so they might not promo to lessen their chances but still see most releases posted here. I think the BW releases are posted more as of "I can't believe this is being released" type of thing.
I don't know why it is that when Mr Brainwash releases a print we get regular updates, but when there's actually something good happening no one posts!? What we need is more people posting interesting news. Get a newsletter from a gallery with a good new release, then start a thread for it. Other prints people actually might want a shot at getting so they might not promo to lessen their chances but still see most releases posted here. I think the BW releases are posted more as of "I can't believe this is being released" type of thing.
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dickshunary
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Has this place changed? , by dickshunary on Oct 29, 2015 21:49:16 GMT 1, I've been a member on/off for a few years and I think the forum has changed from fundamentally an art appreciation group to a sneaker-head chasing group. Meaning that the commercial focus is much higher than it was years ago. I blame the "Morons" release as I think a massive spike happened on this scene.
I've been a member on/off for a few years and I think the forum has changed from fundamentally an art appreciation group to a sneaker-head chasing group. Meaning that the commercial focus is much higher than it was years ago. I blame the "Morons" release as I think a massive spike happened on this scene.
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Has this place changed? , by dickshunary on Oct 29, 2015 21:50:34 GMT 1, While I agree with the sentiment of the 50 post rule, in practice, it has seemingly led to strings of inane and utterly meaningless posts by newer registrants in order to hit the quota. Anyways, like with anywhere, I take the bad with the good. I frequent multiple art forums and each offers their own unique perspective. Regardless of what this place has been or will be, I'll likely still be here reading. I'd be interested to find other forums. I know ExpressoBeans, but please tell me of other places . Thank you I don't think there is much differentiation between the forums...pretty much the same in that people want to buy stuff cheap and sell high in the trade/sell sections.
While I agree with the sentiment of the 50 post rule, in practice, it has seemingly led to strings of inane and utterly meaningless posts by newer registrants in order to hit the quota. Anyways, like with anywhere, I take the bad with the good. I frequent multiple art forums and each offers their own unique perspective. Regardless of what this place has been or will be, I'll likely still be here reading. I'd be interested to find other forums. I know ExpressoBeans, but please tell me of other places . Thank you I don't think there is much differentiation between the forums...pretty much the same in that people want to buy stuff cheap and sell high in the trade/sell sections.
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Has this place changed? , by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 21:50:41 GMT 1, A forum is defined by its audience. Check the view counts on the non Banksy threads, there's a load of information in that. It's all about the releases, the sales and the price checks. The culture of street art isn't dying, it's evolving. We don't have less street art, if anything there is more non permissioned street art now than there was 10 years ago because there is greater tolerance (in certain areas only perhaps) and the awareness of how to do street art has increased dramatically. You the audience don't seem that interested in it though. As was said above, the Street Art photography thread gets not many views. Mikey and Dibbs and a few others (apologies for not namechecking) deserve medals for their persistence in the face of your indifference.
Hello Nolions. Hope you are well. Couldn't agree more. Very much miss Mikey and commissioner posting pics of street art. Dungle dibbs and 11 are doing a fine job. And dread and others in USA. The street art threads are the best thing on this forum. That and the artists you might not know thread.
A forum is defined by its audience. Check the view counts on the non Banksy threads, there's a load of information in that. It's all about the releases, the sales and the price checks. The culture of street art isn't dying, it's evolving. We don't have less street art, if anything there is more non permissioned street art now than there was 10 years ago because there is greater tolerance (in certain areas only perhaps) and the awareness of how to do street art has increased dramatically. You the audience don't seem that interested in it though. As was said above, the Street Art photography thread gets not many views. Mikey and Dibbs and a few others (apologies for not namechecking) deserve medals for their persistence in the face of your indifference. Hello Nolions. Hope you are well. Couldn't agree more. Very much miss Mikey and commissioner posting pics of street art. Dungle dibbs and 11 are doing a fine job. And dread and others in USA. The street art threads are the best thing on this forum. That and the artists you might not know thread.
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Has this place changed? , by dickshunary on Oct 29, 2015 21:52:42 GMT 1, Bongo was the best.
Bongo was the best.
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Has this place changed? , by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 21:53:07 GMT 1, Also I suggested over a year ago keep sales threads in a sales only section and they don't appear in 'recent posts'.. This should hopefully reduce people getting involved in arguments ? As most use 'recent posts' on a daily basis.. ย I think sales threads are vital to the lifeblood of the forum. If they went or were restricted the forum would see a huge drop in interest. I believe people have a right to sell what they own and for a price they choose without having to explain why they are selling. The same way buyers have a right to pay what they want or not. A good transaction involves selling for a good price to someone who believes they are getting a good deal. While discussion and the sharing of information helps that process, the low level sniping that accompanies it comes from a very different place. Its the snipers who a) discourage a decent conversation and b) ruin the selling process, not the sellers or the sales platform.
People manipulating the market should be sniped at imo. Flippers tend to get frowned upon too. Take it to eBay. Otherwise, yes.
Also I suggested over a year ago keep sales threads in a sales only section and they don't appear in 'recent posts'.. This should hopefully reduce people getting involved in arguments ? As most use 'recent posts' on a daily basis.. ย I think sales threads are vital to the lifeblood of the forum. If they went or were restricted the forum would see a huge drop in interest. I believe people have a right to sell what they own and for a price they choose without having to explain why they are selling. The same way buyers have a right to pay what they want or not. A good transaction involves selling for a good price to someone who believes they are getting a good deal. While discussion and the sharing of information helps that process, the low level sniping that accompanies it comes from a very different place. Its the snipers who a) discourage a decent conversation and b) ruin the selling process, not the sellers or the sales platform. People manipulating the market should be sniped at imo. Flippers tend to get frowned upon too. Take it to eBay. Otherwise, yes.
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dickshunary
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Has this place changed? , by dickshunary on Oct 29, 2015 21:55:31 GMT 1, I think sales threads are vital to the lifeblood of the forum. If they went or were restricted the forum would see a huge drop in interest. I believe people have a right to sell what they own and for a price they choose without having to explain why they are selling. The same way buyers have a right to pay what they want or not. A good transaction involves selling for a good price to someone who believes they are getting a good deal. While discussion and the sharing of information helps that process, the low level sniping that accompanies it comes from a very different place. Its the snipers who a) discourage a decent conversation and b) ruin the selling process, not the sellers or the sales platform. People manipulating the market should be sniped at imo. Flippers tend to get frowned upon too. Take it to eBay. Otherwise, yes. I'm not sure I understand the segregation between selling on eBay vs. the forum. Are you saying that people who sell on the forum are more likely to do it at below eBay prices and therefore not a flipper?
I think sales threads are vital to the lifeblood of the forum. If they went or were restricted the forum would see a huge drop in interest. I believe people have a right to sell what they own and for a price they choose without having to explain why they are selling. The same way buyers have a right to pay what they want or not. A good transaction involves selling for a good price to someone who believes they are getting a good deal. While discussion and the sharing of information helps that process, the low level sniping that accompanies it comes from a very different place. Its the snipers who a) discourage a decent conversation and b) ruin the selling process, not the sellers or the sales platform. People manipulating the market should be sniped at imo. Flippers tend to get frowned upon too. Take it to eBay. Otherwise, yes. I'm not sure I understand the segregation between selling on eBay vs. the forum. Are you saying that people who sell on the forum are more likely to do it at below eBay prices and therefore not a flipper?
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Has this place changed? , by Steph Rat Catcher on Oct 29, 2015 22:16:46 GMT 1, Yea show more support to artists lot of artists have come from the Fourm. Now making a living from art . How must it feel when the get constantly slagged for what putting food on the table .. What must a young artists feel like when they are thinking of showing there work ? I mean the kid that done them spot painting & the other one who did that armed car how cool where they .. There must be loads of new artists who just want to show us there art but are worried about being slagged off
Yea show more support to artists lot of artists have come from the Fourm. Now making a living from art . How must it feel when the get constantly slagged for what putting food on the table .. What must a young artists feel like when they are thinking of showing there work ? I mean the kid that done them spot painting & the other one who did that armed car how cool where they .. There must be loads of new artists who just want to show us there art but are worried about being slagged off
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Has this place changed? , by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 22:18:05 GMT 1, People manipulating the market should be sniped at imo. Flippers tend to get frowned upon too. Take it to eBay. Otherwise, yes. I'm not sure I understand the segregation between selling on eBay vs. the forum. ย Are you saying that people who sell on the forum are more likely to do it at below eBay prices and therefore not a flipper?
Hello. I was suggesting that flippers should take their wares to eBay. But that is just very much my own opinion. For many years flipping has been frowned upon here. It's rather rubbing it in the faces of those that missed out. I subscribe to that view and think it would be a shame if flipping became an accepted practise on here. I am well aware that others don't share that view.
People manipulating the market should be sniped at imo. Flippers tend to get frowned upon too. Take it to eBay. Otherwise, yes. I'm not sure I understand the segregation between selling on eBay vs. the forum. ย Are you saying that people who sell on the forum are more likely to do it at below eBay prices and therefore not a flipper? Hello. I was suggesting that flippers should take their wares to eBay. But that is just very much my own opinion. For many years flipping has been frowned upon here. It's rather rubbing it in the faces of those that missed out. I subscribe to that view and think it would be a shame if flipping became an accepted practise on here. I am well aware that others don't share that view.
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Dungle
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Has this place changed? , by Dungle on Oct 29, 2015 22:18:41 GMT 1, A forum is defined by its audience. We don't have less street art, if anything there is more non permissioned street art now than there was 10 years ago because there is greater tolerance (in certain areas only perhaps) and the awareness of how to do street art has increased dramatically. You the audience don't seem that interested in it though. By the way - it's not just this forum to be fair, in places like flickr the exchange of information and the culture of comment and exchange has also disappeared. I blame instagram. "like" = dialogue redux.
Ironically I liked that post.
The art of communication has been dumbed down by social media. It's only gonna get worse.
A forum is defined by its audience. We don't have less street art, if anything there is more non permissioned street art now than there was 10 years ago because there is greater tolerance (in certain areas only perhaps) and the awareness of how to do street art has increased dramatically. You the audience don't seem that interested in it though. By the way - it's not just this forum to be fair, in places like flickr the exchange of information and the culture of comment and exchange has also disappeared. I blame instagram. "like" = dialogue redux. Ironically I liked that post. The art of communication has been dumbed down by social media. It's only gonna get worse.
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Poly Mindset
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Has this place changed? , by Poly Mindset on Oct 29, 2015 22:18:39 GMT 1, Earth? Yes, since the last time I was here. Never liked anything too static. For better or worse things will always change. Agreed.
Earth? Yes, since the last time I was here. Never liked anything too static. For better or worse things will always change. Agreed.
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Has this place changed? , by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 22:19:49 GMT 1,
Bongo was a star!
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dickshunary
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Has this place changed? , by dickshunary on Oct 29, 2015 22:20:32 GMT 1, I'm not sure I understand the segregation between selling on eBay vs. the forum. Are you saying that people who sell on the forum are more likely to do it at below eBay prices and therefore not a flipper? Hello. I was suggesting that flippers should take their wares to eBay. But that is just very much my own opinion. For many years flipping has been frowned upon here. It's rather rubbing it in the faces of those that missed out. I subscribe to that view and think it would be a shame if flipping became an accepted practise on here. I am well aware that others don't share that view. Got it. I would add that most of the forum doesn't share that view and if someone can sell at > cost they will want to maximize gain. Whether its on eBay or the forums.
I'm not sure I understand the segregation between selling on eBay vs. the forum. Are you saying that people who sell on the forum are more likely to do it at below eBay prices and therefore not a flipper? Hello. I was suggesting that flippers should take their wares to eBay. But that is just very much my own opinion. For many years flipping has been frowned upon here. It's rather rubbing it in the faces of those that missed out. I subscribe to that view and think it would be a shame if flipping became an accepted practise on here. I am well aware that others don't share that view. Got it. I would add that most of the forum doesn't share that view and if someone can sell at > cost they will want to maximize gain. Whether its on eBay or the forums.
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Has this place changed? , by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 22:21:29 GMT 1, A forum is defined by its audience. We don't have less street art, if anything there is more non permissioned street art now than there was 10 years ago because there is greater tolerance (in certain areas only perhaps) and the awareness of how to do street art has increased dramatically. You the audience don't seem that interested in it though. By the way - it's not just this forum to be fair, in places like flickr the exchange of information and the culture of comment and exchange has also disappeared. I blame instagram. "like" = dialogue redux.
I've often thought that about the "like" button. It's replaced real comments, sadly.
A forum is defined by its audience. We don't have less street art, if anything there is more non permissioned street art now than there was 10 years ago because there is greater tolerance (in certain areas only perhaps) and the awareness of how to do street art has increased dramatically. You the audience don't seem that interested in it though. By the way - it's not just this forum to be fair, in places like flickr the exchange of information and the culture of comment and exchange has also disappeared. I blame instagram. "like" = dialogue redux. I've often thought that about the "like" button. It's replaced real comments, sadly.
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Dungle
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Has this place changed? , by Dungle on Oct 29, 2015 22:23:23 GMT 1, Hello. I was suggesting that flippers should take their wares to eBay. But that is just very much my own opinion. For many years flipping has been frowned upon here. It's rather rubbing it in the faces of those that missed out. I subscribe to that view and think it would be a shame if flipping became an accepted practise on here. I am well aware that others don't share that view. Got it. ย I would add that most of the forum doesn't share that view and if someone can sell at > cost they will want to maximize gain. ย Whether its on eBay or the forums.
How can you say what views most of the forum hold?
Hello. I was suggesting that flippers should take their wares to eBay. But that is just very much my own opinion. For many years flipping has been frowned upon here. It's rather rubbing it in the faces of those that missed out. I subscribe to that view and think it would be a shame if flipping became an accepted practise on here. I am well aware that others don't share that view. Got it. ย I would add that most of the forum doesn't share that view and if someone can sell at > cost they will want to maximize gain. ย Whether its on eBay or the forums. How can you say what views most of the forum hold?
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Spenie
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Has this place changed? , by Spenie on Oct 29, 2015 22:47:12 GMT 1, Sorry to chip in , but how much is a Stop and Search worth these days???
Sorry to chip in , but how much is a Stop and Search worth these days???
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