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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 19, 2008 21:31:27 GMT 1, aww f**k. Does this mean I'm not getting an Urban Art Award?
I love you guys. I thought that's what you wanted, efficient bulls**t images you could consume, evolution/revolution, it's positively Ludic, I can spew all the post left anarchist views to go along with it... still no good? Damn...
Girona you do own the rights, but so does everyone else, it is released under the public domain afterall.
Thing is.. the image I spoke about in the first post never went up, that image would not have made you smile, it probably wouldn't have made you laugh (unless you get that the art is the act in which case you probably would have thought it was a bit cheeky) and that's the street artists job isn't it? To please not push or offend, to conform instead of change and if the result of their vandalism makes you smile or is suitable for a place in your home, then that's all good, but god help them if they tag your neighbourhood.
Originality? Is that what you want, cuz I did something fairly original in a street art context, I hit a digital only street artist (both in terms of tools and existance) digitally with an act of vandalism... but no again, not cool, vandalism is bad, until I mention prints of the act, as soon as I can apply a revenue stream to it people are knocking on my inbox asking to know more and praising the act. Can anyone tell me where the D* Dogs come from? I know... I'm just wondering if you do... it doesn't seem like it with the thought's put forward in this thread.
We set up these questions where no matter what you answer you are wrong. If I go spray a large pretty flower on a wall somewhere and get arrested for it and go to jail for two years I can turn around and ask why is a pedo or rapist only getting 3 months, what is right about that? If they get me for tagging an ugly tag on an ugly wall in an ugly city whilst I'm standing next to a guy painting a large pretty flower I can turn around and ask, why am I going to jail and not him, what is right about that? The problem with some of the people in places like this isn't that you don't attempt to answer the questions, it's that you don't ever attempt to ask them.
Question everything.
P.S. Don't pull your punches.. I assure you, I can take it. Anyone figure out why the canvases are signed with different versions of the same name? Were you asking the right questions or is this movement just a fashion accessory for your magnolia walls?
aww f**k. Does this mean I'm not getting an Urban Art Award?
I love you guys. I thought that's what you wanted, efficient bulls**t images you could consume, evolution/revolution, it's positively Ludic, I can spew all the post left anarchist views to go along with it... still no good? Damn...
Girona you do own the rights, but so does everyone else, it is released under the public domain afterall.
Thing is.. the image I spoke about in the first post never went up, that image would not have made you smile, it probably wouldn't have made you laugh (unless you get that the art is the act in which case you probably would have thought it was a bit cheeky) and that's the street artists job isn't it? To please not push or offend, to conform instead of change and if the result of their vandalism makes you smile or is suitable for a place in your home, then that's all good, but god help them if they tag your neighbourhood.
Originality? Is that what you want, cuz I did something fairly original in a street art context, I hit a digital only street artist (both in terms of tools and existance) digitally with an act of vandalism... but no again, not cool, vandalism is bad, until I mention prints of the act, as soon as I can apply a revenue stream to it people are knocking on my inbox asking to know more and praising the act. Can anyone tell me where the D* Dogs come from? I know... I'm just wondering if you do... it doesn't seem like it with the thought's put forward in this thread.
We set up these questions where no matter what you answer you are wrong. If I go spray a large pretty flower on a wall somewhere and get arrested for it and go to jail for two years I can turn around and ask why is a pedo or rapist only getting 3 months, what is right about that? If they get me for tagging an ugly tag on an ugly wall in an ugly city whilst I'm standing next to a guy painting a large pretty flower I can turn around and ask, why am I going to jail and not him, what is right about that? The problem with some of the people in places like this isn't that you don't attempt to answer the questions, it's that you don't ever attempt to ask them.
Question everything.
P.S. Don't pull your punches.. I assure you, I can take it. Anyone figure out why the canvases are signed with different versions of the same name? Were you asking the right questions or is this movement just a fashion accessory for your magnolia walls?
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by retardthebear on Jun 19, 2008 21:33:22 GMT 1, not bad, not amazing but not bad. perhaps not worth reading a gazillion forum pages and following for a week to see. But for Giron, as I said before, £80, not bad...
not bad, not amazing but not bad. perhaps not worth reading a gazillion forum pages and following for a week to see. But for Giron, as I said before, £80, not bad...
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by rosstierney on Jun 19, 2008 21:49:58 GMT 1, that rant's obviously been brewing for a while. i haven't read anything that could have potentially triggered it. maybe you just can't take criticism? anyway, best to let it out.
that rant's obviously been brewing for a while. i haven't read anything that could have potentially triggered it. maybe you just can't take criticism? anyway, best to let it out.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by cashman on Jun 19, 2008 22:04:44 GMT 1, Are you fatherxmas ??
Are you fatherxmas ??
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by bored with screen names on Jun 19, 2008 22:06:12 GMT 1, aww f**k. Does this mean I'm not getting an Urban Art Award? I love you guys. I thought that's what you wanted, efficient bulls**t images you could consume, evolution/revolution, it's positively Ludic, I can spew all the post left anarchist views to go along with it... still no good? Damn... Girona you do own the rights, but so does everyone else, it is released under the public domain afterall. Thing is.. the image I spoke about in the first post never went up, that image would not have made you smile, it probably wouldn't have made you laugh (unless you get that the art is the act in which case you probably would have thought it was a bit cheeky) and that's the street artists job isn't it? To please not push or offend, to conform instead of change and if the result of their vandalism makes you smile or is suitable for a place in your home, then that's all good, but god help them if they tag your neighbourhood. Originality? Is that what you want, cuz I did something fairly original in a street art context, I hit a digital only street artist (both in terms of tools and existance) digitally with an act of vandalism... but no again, not cool, vandalism is bad, until I mention prints of the act, as soon as I can apply a revenue stream to it people are knocking on my inbox asking to know more and praising the act. Can anyone tell me where the D* Dogs come from? I know... I'm just wondering if you do... it doesn't seem like it with the thought's put forward in this thread. We set up these questions where no matter what you answer you are wrong. If I go spray a large pretty flower on a wall somewhere and get arrested for it and go to jail for two years I can turn around and ask why is a pedo or rapist only getting 3 months, what is right about that? If they get me for tagging an ugly tag on an ugly wall in an ugly city whilst I'm standing next to a guy painting a large pretty flower I can turn around and ask, why am I going to jail and not him, what is right about that? The problem with some of the people in places like this isn't that you don't attempt to answer the questions, it's that you don't ever attempt to ask them. Question everything. P.S. Don't pull your punches.. I assure you, I can take it. Anyone figure out why the canvases are signed with different versions of the same name? Were you asking the right questions or is this movement just a fashion accessory for your magnolia walls?
Dear Silky,
About that Ignore button.....
aww f**k. Does this mean I'm not getting an Urban Art Award? I love you guys. I thought that's what you wanted, efficient bulls**t images you could consume, evolution/revolution, it's positively Ludic, I can spew all the post left anarchist views to go along with it... still no good? Damn... Girona you do own the rights, but so does everyone else, it is released under the public domain afterall. Thing is.. the image I spoke about in the first post never went up, that image would not have made you smile, it probably wouldn't have made you laugh (unless you get that the art is the act in which case you probably would have thought it was a bit cheeky) and that's the street artists job isn't it? To please not push or offend, to conform instead of change and if the result of their vandalism makes you smile or is suitable for a place in your home, then that's all good, but god help them if they tag your neighbourhood. Originality? Is that what you want, cuz I did something fairly original in a street art context, I hit a digital only street artist (both in terms of tools and existance) digitally with an act of vandalism... but no again, not cool, vandalism is bad, until I mention prints of the act, as soon as I can apply a revenue stream to it people are knocking on my inbox asking to know more and praising the act. Can anyone tell me where the D* Dogs come from? I know... I'm just wondering if you do... it doesn't seem like it with the thought's put forward in this thread. We set up these questions where no matter what you answer you are wrong. If I go spray a large pretty flower on a wall somewhere and get arrested for it and go to jail for two years I can turn around and ask why is a pedo or rapist only getting 3 months, what is right about that? If they get me for tagging an ugly tag on an ugly wall in an ugly city whilst I'm standing next to a guy painting a large pretty flower I can turn around and ask, why am I going to jail and not him, what is right about that? The problem with some of the people in places like this isn't that you don't attempt to answer the questions, it's that you don't ever attempt to ask them. Question everything. P.S. Don't pull your punches.. I assure you, I can take it. Anyone figure out why the canvases are signed with different versions of the same name? Were you asking the right questions or is this movement just a fashion accessory for your magnolia walls? Dear Silky, About that Ignore button.....
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 19, 2008 22:14:11 GMT 1, I felt that was a good place for that post, but fair play, if it's just a rant to you, then each to their own, for every one person who get's what I am trying to convey in a mess of words, there will be 20 that don't.
I know where you are coming from, I guess I would emit that sort of vibe with the way I say some of the things I say, my belief on critisism and praise is that it's all fluff, I take both with a grain of salt and carry on walking my path. I can't appologise for being abbrasive though, I feel, I get angry, I rage, I laugh, I cry, I throw my toys out the cot, reflect on my actions, appologise, put them all back neatly, promise never to do it again and 5 minutes later I am back at it. That's me, it's you, it's all of us. I have an appetite for chaos and I'm fighting a fight, not because I have to, because I want to, because I can, you can too... infact I can't see how you can choose not to.
Having said that, if it is all just naive nonsense to you or looks like a bad way to take critisism, then your mind is made up already and there is nothing wrong with that.
I felt that was a good place for that post, but fair play, if it's just a rant to you, then each to their own, for every one person who get's what I am trying to convey in a mess of words, there will be 20 that don't.
I know where you are coming from, I guess I would emit that sort of vibe with the way I say some of the things I say, my belief on critisism and praise is that it's all fluff, I take both with a grain of salt and carry on walking my path. I can't appologise for being abbrasive though, I feel, I get angry, I rage, I laugh, I cry, I throw my toys out the cot, reflect on my actions, appologise, put them all back neatly, promise never to do it again and 5 minutes later I am back at it. That's me, it's you, it's all of us. I have an appetite for chaos and I'm fighting a fight, not because I have to, because I want to, because I can, you can too... infact I can't see how you can choose not to.
Having said that, if it is all just naive nonsense to you or looks like a bad way to take critisism, then your mind is made up already and there is nothing wrong with that.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by Montubu7 on Jun 19, 2008 22:22:43 GMT 1, I must admit your posts are quite interesting but if you are really fighting the fight & hate the commercial aspect of everything art why do you keep posting on this forum, you made your point quite a while back.
I must admit your posts are quite interesting but if you are really fighting the fight & hate the commercial aspect of everything art why do you keep posting on this forum, you made your point quite a while back.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by lello on Jun 19, 2008 22:43:13 GMT 1, Now that things seen a little less hostile, can you put up some of ya street work? Thanks in advance.
Now that things seen a little less hostile, can you put up some of ya street work? Thanks in advance.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by manty on Jun 19, 2008 23:08:37 GMT 1, I felt that was a good place for that post, but fair play, if it's just a rant to you, then each to their own, for every one person who get's what I am trying to convey in a mess of words, there will be 20 that don't. I know where you are coming from, I guess I would emit that sort of vibe with the way I say some of the things I say, my belief on critisism and praise is that it's all fluff, I take both with a grain of salt and carry on walking my path. I can't appologise for being abbrasive though, I feel, I get angry, I rage, I laugh, I cry, I throw my toys out the cot, reflect on my actions, appologise, put them all back neatly, promise never to do it again and 5 minutes later I am back at it. That's me, it's you, it's all of us. I have an appetite for chaos and I'm fighting a fight, not because I have to, because I want to, because I can, you can too... infact I can't see how you can choose not to. Having said that, if it is all just naive nonsense to you or looks like a bad way to take critisism, then your mind is made up already and there is nothing wrong with that.
In my opinion (which of course is all that really matters to Me) I enjoy your posts, gets me thinking, dont agree with some of what you say, or maybe just the style in which you express it but alot of what you say lets me think about things from a differant perspective i.e the pissing up lampost thread.
Good to see you have values, which you dont appear to comprimise over, you wont get rich i spose with them, butat least your doing what YOU believe in, and not being a sheep
Good to see that fighting spirit is still around.
I felt that was a good place for that post, but fair play, if it's just a rant to you, then each to their own, for every one person who get's what I am trying to convey in a mess of words, there will be 20 that don't. I know where you are coming from, I guess I would emit that sort of vibe with the way I say some of the things I say, my belief on critisism and praise is that it's all fluff, I take both with a grain of salt and carry on walking my path. I can't appologise for being abbrasive though, I feel, I get angry, I rage, I laugh, I cry, I throw my toys out the cot, reflect on my actions, appologise, put them all back neatly, promise never to do it again and 5 minutes later I am back at it. That's me, it's you, it's all of us. I have an appetite for chaos and I'm fighting a fight, not because I have to, because I want to, because I can, you can too... infact I can't see how you can choose not to. Having said that, if it is all just naive nonsense to you or looks like a bad way to take critisism, then your mind is made up already and there is nothing wrong with that. In my opinion (which of course is all that really matters to Me) I enjoy your posts, gets me thinking, dont agree with some of what you say, or maybe just the style in which you express it but alot of what you say lets me think about things from a differant perspective i.e the pissing up lampost thread. Good to see you have values, which you dont appear to comprimise over, you wont get rich i spose with them, butat least your doing what YOU believe in, and not being a sheep Good to see that fighting spirit is still around.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by snakes on Jun 19, 2008 23:12:39 GMT 1, What a crock of shit. What in gods earth is that ape wearing on his head? I really can not emphasise how shit this is. Not even POW could get this crap to sell!
What a crock of shit. What in gods earth is that ape wearing on his head? I really can not emphasise how shit this is. Not even POW could get this crap to sell!
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by snakes on Jun 19, 2008 23:14:47 GMT 1, Was this an entry for someone's 11+ exam?
Was this an entry for someone's 11+ exam?
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by manty on Jun 19, 2008 23:17:06 GMT 1, Bit harsh Snakes, but i wouldn't want it on my wall, maybe thats the whole point ? :-)
Bit harsh Snakes, but i wouldn't want it on my wall, maybe thats the whole point ? :-)
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by snakes on Jun 19, 2008 23:17:45 GMT 1, I would not want it even in my recycling bin..
I would not want it even in my recycling bin..
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 19, 2008 23:50:21 GMT 1, I must admit your posts are quite interesting but if you are really fighting the fight & hate the commercial aspect of everything art why do you keep posting on this forum, you made your point quite a while back. I think it's for the same reason that people would pull an anti-globalisation protest outside of a banks(ys) HQ. I don't decide where the front lines are drawn. If I made my point then I didn't make it loud enough and to enough people, if I didn't make my point then I need to figure out better ways to deliver that message. This place represents a gateway, I'm at the root of this thing, but it's people like you who are responsible for taking it further and bringing it to others around you.
I wouldn't say I'm against the commercial aspect of art. I'm against the saturation of the message, I'm against people using methods of coersion to push art that has messages against pollitical coersion and social engineering within society... against hypocrisy.
How much difference is there really with the White House filtering facts and telling lies to mould my opinion to support an action of theirs and Cyclops selling his stuff under an assumed identity as a gallery owner and talking about himself in the third person? The only real difference I see is that I don't give a shit what the White House is telling me, I never assumed they represented me or told the truth. As silly as it seems this art defines us, and some of the art and stories around it will be around longer than my mouth or images, I want the art that represents me and people like me to be sincere, I want to know that the art was created out of that struggle inside all of us and not just some template that was repeated because someone forgot to pay their phonebill.
I'm not trying to get rich, not trying to sell you anything (there are a lot of easier ways to make money, believe me)... I can bullshit my way into a > £35k job just like everyone else, I have skills just like everyone else, I just choose not to live like that because I don't want to trade large portions of my life for money, because I have one life and because I hardly ever see anyone standing up for what little they believe. If I'm that guy, cool, if I'm not then maybe I'm the guy who whispered some truth in that guys ear.
I must admit your posts are quite interesting but if you are really fighting the fight & hate the commercial aspect of everything art why do you keep posting on this forum, you made your point quite a while back. I think it's for the same reason that people would pull an anti-globalisation protest outside of a banks(ys) HQ. I don't decide where the front lines are drawn. If I made my point then I didn't make it loud enough and to enough people, if I didn't make my point then I need to figure out better ways to deliver that message. This place represents a gateway, I'm at the root of this thing, but it's people like you who are responsible for taking it further and bringing it to others around you. I wouldn't say I'm against the commercial aspect of art. I'm against the saturation of the message, I'm against people using methods of coersion to push art that has messages against pollitical coersion and social engineering within society... against hypocrisy. How much difference is there really with the White House filtering facts and telling lies to mould my opinion to support an action of theirs and Cyclops selling his stuff under an assumed identity as a gallery owner and talking about himself in the third person? The only real difference I see is that I don't give a shit what the White House is telling me, I never assumed they represented me or told the truth. As silly as it seems this art defines us, and some of the art and stories around it will be around longer than my mouth or images, I want the art that represents me and people like me to be sincere, I want to know that the art was created out of that struggle inside all of us and not just some template that was repeated because someone forgot to pay their phonebill. I'm not trying to get rich, not trying to sell you anything (there are a lot of easier ways to make money, believe me)... I can bullshit my way into a > £35k job just like everyone else, I have skills just like everyone else, I just choose not to live like that because I don't want to trade large portions of my life for money, because I have one life and because I hardly ever see anyone standing up for what little they believe. If I'm that guy, cool, if I'm not then maybe I'm the guy who whispered some truth in that guys ear.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by bullet on Jun 20, 2008 0:03:11 GMT 1, get a job hippy
get a job hippy
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 20, 2008 0:10:45 GMT 1, don't need one, turns out defacing dface can be pretty lucrative, act took all of 15 minutes and you can make 400% profit on the prints... score!
art not compromised... check message got to the right people... check no competition... check selling without selling out... cheque mate
don't need one, turns out defacing dface can be pretty lucrative, act took all of 15 minutes and you can make 400% profit on the prints... score! art not compromised... check message got to the right people... check no competition... check selling without selling out... cheque mate
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by bullet on Jun 20, 2008 0:17:04 GMT 1, fair enough, but i believe in karma
fair enough, but i believe in karma
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 20, 2008 0:26:47 GMT 1, fair enough, but i believe in karma Me too, which is why I believe he had it coming, it's also why when I go to bed at 9AM tomorrow morning I will have a smile on my face and not a worry in the world.
fair enough, but i believe in karma Me too, which is why I believe he had it coming, it's also why when I go to bed at 9AM tomorrow morning I will have a smile on my face and not a worry in the world.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by bullet on Jun 20, 2008 0:27:40 GMT 1,
Sorry to quote myself there.
whatever floats your boat, but if you think hacking into someones space and making money off the proceeds when they have done nothing wrong...well then karma my son is going to bite you in the arse one day,
I dont think anyone has lost touch, d* knows who his fans are.
Sorry to quote myself there. whatever floats your boat, but if you think hacking into someones space and making money off the proceeds when they have done nothing wrong...well then karma my son is going to bite you in the arse one day, I dont think anyone has lost touch, d* knows who his fans are.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by colonelkurtz on Jun 20, 2008 0:37:52 GMT 1, don't need one, turns out defacing dface can be pretty lucrative, act took all of 15 minutes and you can make 400% profit on the prints... score! art not compromised... check message got to the right people... check no competition... check selling without selling out... cheque mate
dude you compromised the idea of art when you made those canvas, your message is anarchy... which doesn't work, your competition is anyone with an A lvl in art and you've sold your intrigty as an artist when you've f*cked people around.
Think you should check in.
don't need one, turns out defacing dface can be pretty lucrative, act took all of 15 minutes and you can make 400% profit on the prints... score! art not compromised... check message got to the right people... check no competition... check selling without selling out... cheque mate dude you compromised the idea of art when you made those canvas, your message is anarchy... which doesn't work, your competition is anyone with an A lvl in art and you've sold your intrigty as an artist when you've f*cked people around. Think you should check in.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by retardthebear on Jun 20, 2008 0:51:44 GMT 1, [/quote]I want the art that represents me and people like me to be sincere, I want to know that the art was created out of that struggle inside all of us and not just some template that was repeated because someone forgot to pay their phonebill.[/quote]
forgive me if i'm being naive here, weren't your canvases a copy of a t-shirt design from down the market?
[/quote]I want the art that represents me and people like me to be sincere, I want to know that the art was created out of that struggle inside all of us and not just some template that was repeated because someone forgot to pay their phonebill.[/quote]
forgive me if i'm being naive here, weren't your canvases a copy of a t-shirt design from down the market?
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by goffy on Jun 20, 2008 0:55:02 GMT 1, Does BE's rants remind you of something? It reminds me of Dennis Hopper in Apocalypse Now.
Does BE's rants remind you of something? It reminds me of Dennis Hopper in Apocalypse Now.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 20, 2008 2:35:38 GMT 1, dude you compromised the idea of art when you made those canvas, your message is anarchy... which doesn't work, your competition is anyone with an A lvl in art and you've sold your intrigty as an artist when you've f*cked people around. Think you should check in. I might have compromised *your* idea of art when I made those canvasses. If you are implying Girona got screwed then I will say this; I stand by what I said, 2 images are up and you have the canvasses and rights to run a print, if you aren't happy.. ask for your money back, I will glady provide it, no money was made by me and I don't want anyone to feel ripped off at all, that's not what I am about.
Maybe we could do another experiment, maybe we can see if I can flip them for £80 each to test that theory, because none of that game that gets played here is anything to do with art, that's completely about marketing rubbish, building a brand or just being a good old fashioned salesman. We should do it, the proceeds could go to Girona or maybe we could give it all to charity (although charity does start at home.... KIDDING! ).
My message is Anarchy? Not quite.. I mean that is an anarchist symbol in that image and I have dropped that one word here and there but that's not the message or motivation...
Another thing that needs to be addressed: not saying the image above is supposed to be shit (not saying it's not). If you think it's shit, then it's shit and I'm sorry to hear that, I promise to try harder next time. But it's a souless image, it's a one liner at best and it's not something someone is going to sink their time into because I don't feel attached to it at all, just used the image as a vehicle for a message, maybe some people got the same message and maybe some people got different messages, but that is all down to my execution and your perception, I only control one of those aspects.
Did I get the image from a t-shirt down the market?s**t no, I went to flickr just like you did, just like all the street artists I know do (OK the smart ones use books and photocopiers, I was using a screen and ballpoint but same deal). That was the point (remember that post, one of the pieces has hit flickr...). Obviously this begs the question, what does the stuff I invest myself into look like? what subject matter do I deal with? what does my world look like? what is my style? But do you really give a shit or do you just want to tell me you think I am a dick, because you can do that right here without me putting myself out there for you to pick at.
The art is the act, the other stuff is a by-product, fame, infamy, money, poverty (a lot of those things are just different stages within the same cycle). In my case something very positive came out in that people were thinking and asking some questions, some asked me questions, some asked each other questions and I paved the way for someone just to come up and ask this place to help them get a piece up, that all sounds pretty good to me.
JBOY/D*Face fanbase, I don't have a problem with you and don't care what you spend your money on. I did what I did for a reason, I am not a violent person, I am not a bully and I am not out to fuck up things for kicks. Why don't I play my card here on the forum for you all to see? Because that card get's played when D*Face tries to get me nicked, that's the thing that keeps me out of jail, it's the thing that makes me stand firm with my head held high because I did the right thing, and if knowing what I know, you wouldn't do the same, then fuck you.
dude you compromised the idea of art when you made those canvas, your message is anarchy... which doesn't work, your competition is anyone with an A lvl in art and you've sold your intrigty as an artist when you've f*cked people around. Think you should check in. I might have compromised *your* idea of art when I made those canvasses. If you are implying Girona got screwed then I will say this; I stand by what I said, 2 images are up and you have the canvasses and rights to run a print, if you aren't happy.. ask for your money back, I will glady provide it, no money was made by me and I don't want anyone to feel ripped off at all, that's not what I am about. Maybe we could do another experiment, maybe we can see if I can flip them for £80 each to test that theory, because none of that game that gets played here is anything to do with art, that's completely about marketing rubbish, building a brand or just being a good old fashioned salesman. We should do it, the proceeds could go to Girona or maybe we could give it all to charity (although charity does start at home.... KIDDING! ). My message is Anarchy? Not quite.. I mean that is an anarchist symbol in that image and I have dropped that one word here and there but that's not the message or motivation... Another thing that needs to be addressed: not saying the image above is supposed to be shit (not saying it's not). If you think it's shit, then it's shit and I'm sorry to hear that, I promise to try harder next time. But it's a souless image, it's a one liner at best and it's not something someone is going to sink their time into because I don't feel attached to it at all, just used the image as a vehicle for a message, maybe some people got the same message and maybe some people got different messages, but that is all down to my execution and your perception, I only control one of those aspects. Did I get the image from a t-shirt down the market?s**t no, I went to flickr just like you did, just like all the street artists I know do (OK the smart ones use books and photocopiers, I was using a screen and ballpoint but same deal). That was the point (remember that post, one of the pieces has hit flickr...). Obviously this begs the question, what does the stuff I invest myself into look like? what subject matter do I deal with? what does my world look like? what is my style? But do you really give a shit or do you just want to tell me you think I am a dick, because you can do that right here without me putting myself out there for you to pick at. The art is the act, the other stuff is a by-product, fame, infamy, money, poverty (a lot of those things are just different stages within the same cycle). In my case something very positive came out in that people were thinking and asking some questions, some asked me questions, some asked each other questions and I paved the way for someone just to come up and ask this place to help them get a piece up, that all sounds pretty good to me. JBOY/D*Face fanbase, I don't have a problem with you and don't care what you spend your money on. I did what I did for a reason, I am not a violent person, I am not a bully and I am not out to fuck up things for kicks. Why don't I play my card here on the forum for you all to see? Because that card get's played when D*Face tries to get me nicked, that's the thing that keeps me out of jail, it's the thing that makes me stand firm with my head held high because I did the right thing, and if knowing what I know, you wouldn't do the same, then fuck you.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 20, 2008 2:51:11 GMT 1, oh yeah, almost forgot...
oh yeah, almost forgot...
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by orangematt on Jun 20, 2008 2:54:02 GMT 1,
How much difference is there really with the White House filtering facts and telling lies to mould my opinion to support an action of theirs and Cyclops selling his stuff under an assumed identity as a gallery owner and talking about himself in the third person?
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Hey BE -- been enjoying your posts Just wondered if the reference to Cyclops above was correct ? i felt that maybe you may have got mixed up with someone else !?
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How much difference is there really with the White House filtering facts and telling lies to mould my opinion to support an action of theirs and Cyclops selling his stuff under an assumed identity as a gallery owner and talking about himself in the third person? [/quote] Hey BE -- been enjoying your posts Just wondered if the reference to Cyclops above was correct ? i felt that maybe you may have got mixed up with someone else !? SPQR
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by gbh on Jun 20, 2008 3:05:06 GMT 1, I quite like the second one actually.
I quite like the second one actually.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 20, 2008 3:21:43 GMT 1, Details might be better for PM but who could you possibly think I got them mixed up with? I mean I have 4 different corresponding facts and I'll say this much, some people here know I have different identities, some know what some of them are, there is a very specific reason I used the one I used during this whole fiasco. If you know the guy then you should be able to take that to him and he'd be able to figure it out.
Details might be better for PM but who could you possibly think I got them mixed up with? I mean I have 4 different corresponding facts and I'll say this much, some people here know I have different identities, some know what some of them are, there is a very specific reason I used the one I used during this whole fiasco. If you know the guy then you should be able to take that to him and he'd be able to figure it out.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by gbh on Jun 20, 2008 3:23:03 GMT 1, JBOY...are you being funny again?
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JBOY...are you being funny again?
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by Harveyn on Jun 20, 2008 7:44:48 GMT 1, Have to say SPQR I am enjoying reading BE's posts as well. Some of it is actually quite thought provoking.
Have to say SPQR I am enjoying reading BE's posts as well. Some of it is actually quite thought provoking.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by guest2 on Jun 20, 2008 7:55:42 GMT 1, Have to say SPQR I am enjoying reading BE's posts as well. Some of it is actually quite thought provoking.
if nothing else, hes passionate about what he does and gets my attention weather he's right or wrong. I think it would be lame if dface presses charges. You can't be a so called vandal, go onto tv all covered up with masks cos you're so 'wanted' and as soon as someone vandals your website go running to the Police.
I hope it's a vicious rumor cos that will be the end for me.
Have to say SPQR I am enjoying reading BE's posts as well. Some of it is actually quite thought provoking. if nothing else, hes passionate about what he does and gets my attention weather he's right or wrong. I think it would be lame if dface presses charges. You can't be a so called vandal, go onto tv all covered up with masks cos you're so 'wanted' and as soon as someone vandals your website go running to the Police. I hope it's a vicious rumor cos that will be the end for me.
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