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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by dmandpenfold on Jun 20, 2008 16:16:25 GMT 1, Cartrain's writings wouldn't have been nearly so elloquent, BE is able to defend his position / work very well and intellectually, whether we / you agree with him or not. Nice to see how this thread moved from hating, to shouting and dissing and now to a 'virtual love in' with BE. Reading back through the previous pages the swing-ometer shows some interesting swings in the mass opinion of our fickle forum members, we have leaders and sheep aplenty. That may be so, but the topic of this thread were the eighty quid canvases. And in my opinion, no matter how eloquently TBE expresses his views on the world, there's no getting away from the fact that they are poorly executed and the image is boring, not to mention cliched.
you're right, but i think it's already been stated, that's probably the point
Cartrain's writings wouldn't have been nearly so elloquent, BE is able to defend his position / work very well and intellectually, whether we / you agree with him or not. Nice to see how this thread moved from hating, to shouting and dissing and now to a 'virtual love in' with BE. Reading back through the previous pages the swing-ometer shows some interesting swings in the mass opinion of our fickle forum members, we have leaders and sheep aplenty. That may be so, but the topic of this thread were the eighty quid canvases. And in my opinion, no matter how eloquently TBE expresses his views on the world, there's no getting away from the fact that they are poorly executed and the image is boring, not to mention cliched. you're right, but i think it's already been stated, that's probably the point
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by freemans on Jun 20, 2008 16:18:14 GMT 1, whatever u think about the bleedin edge least he aint no grass
whatever u think about the bleedin edge least he aint no grass
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by deckstar on Jun 20, 2008 16:47:53 GMT 1, LOL there awful!, i'm no artist but i think i could make something much better than that cr*p
LOL there awful!, i'm no artist but i think i could make something much better than that cr*p
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by instinct on Jun 20, 2008 17:23:41 GMT 1, like him or not angel41 you did tell me what not to say... please don't do that! beg/sell whatever... it seemed to me that he was asking for help to further his artistic ideas. i and many other people took an interest in this. personally i considered giving the guy the money but decided against this because doing that would have implicated me in an act of vandalism... if i was to commit acts of vandalism i would do that on my own merit. however if i had given him the cash i would have been happy with what i got for my money... some new ideas about this whole thing and where i think its going! ideas which incidentally i was able to develop simply by observing/commenting on the process. to conclude i think the guys ideas have merit... i thnik hes trying to unpick what this thing has become and encourage more people to be true to what it was? difficult and unlikely but in my view something which should be investigated! Fair enough instinct, sorry, didn't mean to dis you personally. I was just trying to get across the fact that the canvases are what they are and all the talk and hype over the last month or so (although enjoyable) doesn't seem to back it up. Some very valid points have been raised by TBE and other people throughout the thread so it's not all been worthless.
fair play angel41, respect to you. with regard to the canvases, as i said i would not hang them but they do seem to emphasise his point... with that in mind im still keen to see his street works.
like him or not angel41 you did tell me what not to say... please don't do that! beg/sell whatever... it seemed to me that he was asking for help to further his artistic ideas. i and many other people took an interest in this. personally i considered giving the guy the money but decided against this because doing that would have implicated me in an act of vandalism... if i was to commit acts of vandalism i would do that on my own merit. however if i had given him the cash i would have been happy with what i got for my money... some new ideas about this whole thing and where i think its going! ideas which incidentally i was able to develop simply by observing/commenting on the process. to conclude i think the guys ideas have merit... i thnik hes trying to unpick what this thing has become and encourage more people to be true to what it was? difficult and unlikely but in my view something which should be investigated! Fair enough instinct, sorry, didn't mean to dis you personally. I was just trying to get across the fact that the canvases are what they are and all the talk and hype over the last month or so (although enjoyable) doesn't seem to back it up. Some very valid points have been raised by TBE and other people throughout the thread so it's not all been worthless. fair play angel41, respect to you. with regard to the canvases, as i said i would not hang them but they do seem to emphasise his point... with that in mind im still keen to see his street works.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by snakes on Jun 20, 2008 17:26:29 GMT 1, whatever u think about the bleedin edge least he aint no grass
How do you know?
whatever u think about the bleedin edge least he aint no grass How do you know?
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by spirit on Jun 20, 2008 17:44:19 GMT 1, whatever u think about the bleedin edge least he aint no grass
Well you could say he grassed d*face up to this forum. Told us all about how D sold to Christina Aguilera etc...
whatever u think about the bleedin edge least he aint no grass Well you could say he grassed d*face up to this forum. Told us all about how D sold to Christina Aguilera etc...
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by bullet on Jun 20, 2008 18:37:26 GMT 1, then BE sold us something, so he is a grass AND a sellout.
hmmm.
then BE sold us something, so he is a grass AND a sellout.
hmmm.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by beefloaf on Jun 20, 2008 19:44:35 GMT 1, I LIKE CHRISTINA AGUILERA.
I LIKE CHRISTINA AGUILERA.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by freemans on Jun 20, 2008 19:46:50 GMT 1, j boy could u get any further up d faces arse
j boy could u get any further up d faces arse
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by guest2 on Jun 20, 2008 20:19:28 GMT 1, ....someone once said to me if you dont have nothing good to say then ,..... you know the rest...
....someone once said to me if you dont have nothing good to say then ,..... you know the rest...
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by felix on Jun 20, 2008 20:20:20 GMT 1, I LIKE CHRISTINA AGUILERA.
Beats Britney hands down, i'm with you.
I LIKE CHRISTINA AGUILERA. Beats Britney hands down, i'm with you.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by sahoria on Jun 20, 2008 20:28:21 GMT 1, ....someone once said to me if you dont have nothing good to say then ,..... you know the rest...
;D..s
....someone once said to me if you dont have nothing good to say then ,..... you know the rest... ;D..s
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by guest2 on Jun 20, 2008 20:42:43 GMT 1,
I'm trying huh Sahoria?
I'm trying huh Sahoria?
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by sahoria on Jun 20, 2008 20:52:06 GMT 1, I'm trying huh Sahoria?
fantastically well... ...s
I'm trying huh Sahoria? fantastically well... ...s
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by bullet on Jun 20, 2008 20:53:34 GMT 1, j boy could u get any further up d faces arse
it pays well
j boy could u get any further up d faces arse it pays well
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 20, 2008 22:31:44 GMT 1, I think the begging accusation is the only thing floating about that I would like to defend, I hardly saw that as begging, of course that is one unimaginative way of looking at it but it reminds me of a story a friend told me, he was really drunk at the time so I think a bit of it might have been lost, but I'll try tell it as best I can:
There was once a village ravaged by war, during what seemed to be endless combat the villagers built up a wall of distrust between themselves and the soldiers, even the ones that were on the same side as them. The war ended, the victors celebrated, the losers plotted their revenge and the villagers sulked because their home was in tatters. One soldier was overcome with guilt, a guilt that only set in after he reflected on his actions which is something he did only when those actions affected him. He was hungry and in a field trying to find food but to no avail, the war had seen every last grain burned or hidden in what was once a land of plenty, the very thing the soldiers were fighting for control over. He searched, he dug, he walked the length of the field dragging a sack hoping to scrape something together but all he got for his efforts was a bag of rocks. The guilt drove him to go to the villagers, he went to the closest house and told the woman who answered the door that he was overcome by guilt for what he and the others had done, he told her he wanted to cook the village a feast as a sign of goodwill but all he had was a bag of rocks. The womans husband laughed at the man and ridiculed his rock stew but after seeing the sincerity in his eyes, the woman threw two tomatoes to the soldier behind her husbands back before closing the door. The soldier could have taken the tomatoes and fed himself but he knew that would only fuel his guilt, so he continued to the next house. A week later he returned to the first womans door, her husband answered the door and the soldier told the man that he and his entire family were invited to the rock stew feast, the man laughed and called a passing neighbour who joined in. The soldier said they were all invited and asked them to invite their friends and family. Later that evening the whole village had turned up to taste the rock stew and when the soldier unveiled what he had made it was a rich stew with meat and veggies, dumplings, warm bread and everything else the villagers had wanted but could not provide by themselves. After that day... they never ate anything but rock stew.
Sahoria: Yeah someone did say that once didn't they, nobody can tell me who though. Whoever it was I don't think they were abolishing slavery or helped end apartheid, I'm sure they were a thoroughly nice chap though.
I think the begging accusation is the only thing floating about that I would like to defend, I hardly saw that as begging, of course that is one unimaginative way of looking at it but it reminds me of a story a friend told me, he was really drunk at the time so I think a bit of it might have been lost, but I'll try tell it as best I can:
There was once a village ravaged by war, during what seemed to be endless combat the villagers built up a wall of distrust between themselves and the soldiers, even the ones that were on the same side as them. The war ended, the victors celebrated, the losers plotted their revenge and the villagers sulked because their home was in tatters. One soldier was overcome with guilt, a guilt that only set in after he reflected on his actions which is something he did only when those actions affected him. He was hungry and in a field trying to find food but to no avail, the war had seen every last grain burned or hidden in what was once a land of plenty, the very thing the soldiers were fighting for control over. He searched, he dug, he walked the length of the field dragging a sack hoping to scrape something together but all he got for his efforts was a bag of rocks. The guilt drove him to go to the villagers, he went to the closest house and told the woman who answered the door that he was overcome by guilt for what he and the others had done, he told her he wanted to cook the village a feast as a sign of goodwill but all he had was a bag of rocks. The womans husband laughed at the man and ridiculed his rock stew but after seeing the sincerity in his eyes, the woman threw two tomatoes to the soldier behind her husbands back before closing the door. The soldier could have taken the tomatoes and fed himself but he knew that would only fuel his guilt, so he continued to the next house. A week later he returned to the first womans door, her husband answered the door and the soldier told the man that he and his entire family were invited to the rock stew feast, the man laughed and called a passing neighbour who joined in. The soldier said they were all invited and asked them to invite their friends and family. Later that evening the whole village had turned up to taste the rock stew and when the soldier unveiled what he had made it was a rich stew with meat and veggies, dumplings, warm bread and everything else the villagers had wanted but could not provide by themselves. After that day... they never ate anything but rock stew.
Sahoria: Yeah someone did say that once didn't they, nobody can tell me who though. Whoever it was I don't think they were abolishing slavery or helped end apartheid, I'm sure they were a thoroughly nice chap though.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by Harveyn on Jun 20, 2008 22:43:28 GMT 1, Wise words TBE but tell me the crime that has been committed. Happy to listen but in the grand scheme of life how important is your crusade?
Wise words TBE but tell me the crime that has been committed. Happy to listen but in the grand scheme of life how important is your crusade?
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by guest2 on Jun 20, 2008 23:02:43 GMT 1, I think the begging accusation is the only thing floating about that I would like to defend, I hardly saw that as begging, of course that is one unimaginative way of looking at it but it reminds me of a story a friend told me, he was really drunk at the time so I think a bit of it might have been lost, but I'll try tell it as best I can: There was once a village ravaged by war, during what seemed to be endless combat the villagers built up a wall of distrust between themselves and the soldiers, even the ones that were on the same side as them. The war ended, the victors celebrated, the losers plotted their revenge and the villagers sulked because their home was in tatters. One soldier was overcome with guilt, a guilt that only set in after he reflected on his actions which is something he did only when those actions affected him. He was hungry and in a field trying to find food but to no avail, the war had seen every last grain burned or hidden in what was once a land of plenty, the very thing the soldiers were fighting for control over. He searched, he dug, he walked the length of the field dragging a sack hoping to scrape something together but all he got for his efforts was a bag of rocks. The guilt drove him to go to the villagers, he went to the closest house and told the woman who answered the door that he was overcome by guilt for what he and the others had done, he told her he wanted to cook the village a feast as a sign of goodwill but all he had was a bag of rocks. The womans husband laughed at the man and ridiculed his rock stew but after seeing the sincerity in his eyes, the woman threw two tomatoes to the soldier behind her husbands back before closing the door. The soldier could have taken the tomatoes and fed himself but he knew that would only fuel his guilt, so he continued to the next house. A week later he returned to the first womans door, her husband answered the door and the soldier told the man that he and his entire family were invited to the rock stew feast, the man laughed and called a passing neighbour who joined in. The soldier said they were all invited and asked them to invite their friends and family. Later that evening the whole village had turned up to taste the rock stew and when the soldier unveiled what he had made it was a rich stew with meat and veggies, dumplings, warm bread and everything else the villagers had wanted but could not provide by themselves. After that day... they never ate anything but rock stew. .....
Who's your friend, Uncle Albert? Durin' the war....!
I think the begging accusation is the only thing floating about that I would like to defend, I hardly saw that as begging, of course that is one unimaginative way of looking at it but it reminds me of a story a friend told me, he was really drunk at the time so I think a bit of it might have been lost, but I'll try tell it as best I can: There was once a village ravaged by war, during what seemed to be endless combat the villagers built up a wall of distrust between themselves and the soldiers, even the ones that were on the same side as them. The war ended, the victors celebrated, the losers plotted their revenge and the villagers sulked because their home was in tatters. One soldier was overcome with guilt, a guilt that only set in after he reflected on his actions which is something he did only when those actions affected him. He was hungry and in a field trying to find food but to no avail, the war had seen every last grain burned or hidden in what was once a land of plenty, the very thing the soldiers were fighting for control over. He searched, he dug, he walked the length of the field dragging a sack hoping to scrape something together but all he got for his efforts was a bag of rocks. The guilt drove him to go to the villagers, he went to the closest house and told the woman who answered the door that he was overcome by guilt for what he and the others had done, he told her he wanted to cook the village a feast as a sign of goodwill but all he had was a bag of rocks. The womans husband laughed at the man and ridiculed his rock stew but after seeing the sincerity in his eyes, the woman threw two tomatoes to the soldier behind her husbands back before closing the door. The soldier could have taken the tomatoes and fed himself but he knew that would only fuel his guilt, so he continued to the next house. A week later he returned to the first womans door, her husband answered the door and the soldier told the man that he and his entire family were invited to the rock stew feast, the man laughed and called a passing neighbour who joined in. The soldier said they were all invited and asked them to invite their friends and family. Later that evening the whole village had turned up to taste the rock stew and when the soldier unveiled what he had made it was a rich stew with meat and veggies, dumplings, warm bread and everything else the villagers had wanted but could not provide by themselves. After that day... they never ate anything but rock stew. ..... Who's your friend, Uncle Albert? Durin' the war....!
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 20, 2008 23:03:54 GMT 1, In the grand scheme of things not much of anything any of us do is important, sorry to say, I think that's the first step in being human, realising that for all our potential as people or a collective society, we aren't really that important or smart or valuable. Value is just perceived, just like meaning in art.
I'm not crusading, I'm just speaking, thinking and doing, if the by-product of my actions means there's a pretty picture then it is the same as if the by-products of my act leaves a path for someone to follow to do what I won't or to do what I can't, any value applied to those by-products is for you to determine and not me. That's an alright way to think and live in my book. Some of what I do could be considered art, some of what I do could be considered criminal (same with the "cyber begging" accusation) but I'm always asking why and those same questions can be applied elsewhere in life and that's why art is special to me, because it's where that s**t gets raised and it has applications outside of images/writings/sculptures/dance... and that part, the application of ideas is up to the viewer, so it's a two way thing really, same is true of graff as art be it tagging, dubs, pieces and everything in between.
I know that story has two levels of metaphors and some people might choose to view the simple version, the accessible ones, but I was trying to get something across and what I realise now is it's not my job to make the water trickle all the way down the pyramid, I'm just the guy who is supposed to let the water trickle to the next level below me and let them take it from there.
Hope you know what I mean, if you don't then... you know, whatever. Not drunk, not high.. sometimes I'm angry, sometimes I am funny but at least I give a shit right? At least I'm being honest right? If not then fuck it, I'll just be the worlds first street fartist
In the grand scheme of things not much of anything any of us do is important, sorry to say, I think that's the first step in being human, realising that for all our potential as people or a collective society, we aren't really that important or smart or valuable. Value is just perceived, just like meaning in art.
I'm not crusading, I'm just speaking, thinking and doing, if the by-product of my actions means there's a pretty picture then it is the same as if the by-products of my act leaves a path for someone to follow to do what I won't or to do what I can't, any value applied to those by-products is for you to determine and not me. That's an alright way to think and live in my book. Some of what I do could be considered art, some of what I do could be considered criminal (same with the "cyber begging" accusation) but I'm always asking why and those same questions can be applied elsewhere in life and that's why art is special to me, because it's where that s**t gets raised and it has applications outside of images/writings/sculptures/dance... and that part, the application of ideas is up to the viewer, so it's a two way thing really, same is true of graff as art be it tagging, dubs, pieces and everything in between.
I know that story has two levels of metaphors and some people might choose to view the simple version, the accessible ones, but I was trying to get something across and what I realise now is it's not my job to make the water trickle all the way down the pyramid, I'm just the guy who is supposed to let the water trickle to the next level below me and let them take it from there.
Hope you know what I mean, if you don't then... you know, whatever. Not drunk, not high.. sometimes I'm angry, sometimes I am funny but at least I give a shit right? At least I'm being honest right? If not then fuck it, I'll just be the worlds first street fartist
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by sahoria on Jun 20, 2008 23:23:32 GMT 1, different parts of the world both those things still happen.....ciudad bolívar - bogota (one of the saddest places i have been too) to outskirts of srinagar kashmir ( one of the most beautiful ) - class system to caste system...
comment was more specific to this thread...was being polite... stoke me on the right subject i would have that fire in my belly... you have your opinions i have mine... that last post i have heard but in different language... slightly different about 1947 india... wasnt a soldier however it was a farm owner... s
different parts of the world both those things still happen.....ciudad bolívar - bogota (one of the saddest places i have been too) to outskirts of srinagar kashmir ( one of the most beautiful ) - class system to caste system...
comment was more specific to this thread...was being polite... stoke me on the right subject i would have that fire in my belly... you have your opinions i have mine... that last post i have heard but in different language... slightly different about 1947 india... wasnt a soldier however it was a farm owner... s
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 21, 2008 0:00:01 GMT 1, different parts of the world both those things still happen.....ciudad bolívar - bogota (one of the saddest places i have been too) to outskirts of srinagar kashmir ( one of the most beautiful ) - class system to caste system... comment was more specific to this thread...was being polite... stoke me on the right subject i would have that fire in my belly... you have your opinions i have mine... that last post i have heard but in different language... slightly different about 1947 india... wasnt a soldier however it was a farm owner... s
Yeah alright, it's not my story, never said it was, my friend who told that to me had heard it in his childhood from Africa, I think that just illustrates how universal it is.
I'm just trying to put across that art is where the ideas start, if I was in America in the 1700's and not down with the whole slavery thing, I could come out and say I'm not down with it and take the consequence immediately, or I could put the message in a form of art open to different interpretation and let it get to like minded people, people who can speak better than I can or people who can influence change better than I can, it's communication that can test the waters, stretch the boundries and lead to actual change, it's the spark that starts the flame.
Why did you feel the need to illustrate that bad s**t goes down in the world? I'm well travelled and I can assure you I don't hit up the Hilton when I go to those places, I don't go to Bethlehem looking for Banksy's, it doesn't need to be said, it's the reason I do what I do.. the little people.
I'm not on a crusade to protect an artist or a crew or get myself up, it's about keeping the water clear from all the cum and s**t that pollutes so that we do actually get change from a silly thing like play and pictures rather than just ironic images barraded past us until we remember we don't give a s**t anyway.
That's the way I always viewed this, but then I get s**t from people who are on their magical puffy clouds telling me "he didn't do anything wrong... he's going in the history books"... you arrogant s**t. Do you honestly think you will be able to tell who from our time will be remembered? I bet they said s**t like that when van gogh was around, only he wasnt the name mentioned, i'm not saying I'm that guy, but I am saying I defend that guy's platform.
What else am I gonna do? Pay taxes? £3 a month to RSPCA? That just seems useless
different parts of the world both those things still happen.....ciudad bolívar - bogota (one of the saddest places i have been too) to outskirts of srinagar kashmir ( one of the most beautiful ) - class system to caste system... comment was more specific to this thread...was being polite... stoke me on the right subject i would have that fire in my belly... you have your opinions i have mine... that last post i have heard but in different language... slightly different about 1947 india... wasnt a soldier however it was a farm owner... s Yeah alright, it's not my story, never said it was, my friend who told that to me had heard it in his childhood from Africa, I think that just illustrates how universal it is. I'm just trying to put across that art is where the ideas start, if I was in America in the 1700's and not down with the whole slavery thing, I could come out and say I'm not down with it and take the consequence immediately, or I could put the message in a form of art open to different interpretation and let it get to like minded people, people who can speak better than I can or people who can influence change better than I can, it's communication that can test the waters, stretch the boundries and lead to actual change, it's the spark that starts the flame. Why did you feel the need to illustrate that bad s**t goes down in the world? I'm well travelled and I can assure you I don't hit up the Hilton when I go to those places, I don't go to Bethlehem looking for Banksy's, it doesn't need to be said, it's the reason I do what I do.. the little people. I'm not on a crusade to protect an artist or a crew or get myself up, it's about keeping the water clear from all the cum and s**t that pollutes so that we do actually get change from a silly thing like play and pictures rather than just ironic images barraded past us until we remember we don't give a s**t anyway. That's the way I always viewed this, but then I get s**t from people who are on their magical puffy clouds telling me "he didn't do anything wrong... he's going in the history books"... you arrogant s**t. Do you honestly think you will be able to tell who from our time will be remembered? I bet they said s**t like that when van gogh was around, only he wasnt the name mentioned, i'm not saying I'm that guy, but I am saying I defend that guy's platform. What else am I gonna do? Pay taxes? £3 a month to RSPCA? That just seems useless
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by sahoria on Jun 21, 2008 0:12:43 GMT 1, my point of that story is what you said it is universal... not saying you copied it just that i have heard same from before.. that is all....
point i was making was that slavery etc still goes on... you brought that up i was just responding to that... believe me i am not arrogant s**t neither... you have your opinions i have mine... cant see how you would get i am arrogant from that but again you have your own opinions...
never said i would know who in the future will be in the history books.... he has fans that support him and personally in my opinion that is a fantastic thing. your opinions are different... s
my point of that story is what you said it is universal... not saying you copied it just that i have heard same from before.. that is all.... point i was making was that slavery etc still goes on... you brought that up i was just responding to that... believe me i am not arrogant s**t neither... you have your opinions i have mine... cant see how you would get i am arrogant from that but again you have your own opinions... never said i would know who in the future will be in the history books.... he has fans that support him and personally in my opinion that is a fantastic thing. your opinions are different... s
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by low3 on Jun 21, 2008 0:12:57 GMT 1, Maybe you should just stop trying so hard bleedingedge?!
I've no doubt in the sincerity of your actions but you don't need to keep ramming it down our throats to get the message aross.
Some of the best artists still get a point across through their work (people see the art, then look into the artist and his motives), not necessarily by arguing the toss with anyone who cares to disagree with you or question you.
I dare say its not so much your motives, but the way you've gone about your work in the last few weeks that gets people's back's up.
You're clearly a fairly intelligent guy. Start letting your head rule your heart........ instead of thinking out of your arse.
Maybe you should just stop trying so hard bleedingedge?!
I've no doubt in the sincerity of your actions but you don't need to keep ramming it down our throats to get the message aross.
Some of the best artists still get a point across through their work (people see the art, then look into the artist and his motives), not necessarily by arguing the toss with anyone who cares to disagree with you or question you.
I dare say its not so much your motives, but the way you've gone about your work in the last few weeks that gets people's back's up.
You're clearly a fairly intelligent guy. Start letting your head rule your heart........ instead of thinking out of your arse.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 21, 2008 0:29:04 GMT 1, Maybe you should just stop trying so hard bleedingedge?! I've no doubt in the sincerity of your actions but you don't need to keep ramming it down our throats to get the message aross. Some of the best artists still get a point across through their work (people see the art, then look into the artist and his motives), not necessarily by arguing the toss with anyone who cares to disagree with you or question you. I dare say its not so much your motives, but the way you've gone about your work in the last few weeks that gets people's back's up. You're clearly a fairly intelligent guy. Start letting your head rule your heart........ instead of thinking out of your arse. I think if you didn't want to read it, then you shouldn't have read it, you know heads and arses and all that.
That was the place that post had to go, I mean, my nickname is in the topic and my motives, action and art were questioned, so where would you have me say it?
I just gave graffers a cool idea in the other forum and then defended myself here, what's the issue? What did you contribute?
The art is s**t, I'm a c**t, here's why... that's all I was saying rather than me saying 'yeah but no but yeah it's supposed to be crap, i recycled one of those canvasses and it had marker on it that bleeding through paint and I was trying to prove a point' and you all saying, yeah pull the other one.
A passive platform like the internet where you have to click a link and scroll down a page to get to my post is hardly ramming it down your throats is it? But what about what you guys do with your graffiti tours and fanboy marketting, monopolies on certain coverage? Didn't see you speaking up on those issues. I paint illegal pictures all over the city for fucks sake, did you really think I was going to ask your permission to speak up? If you don't care... then don't care, don't click, don't read and assume I'm talking to other people...
Play the ball, not the man.
Stay safe..
Maybe you should just stop trying so hard bleedingedge?! I've no doubt in the sincerity of your actions but you don't need to keep ramming it down our throats to get the message aross. Some of the best artists still get a point across through their work (people see the art, then look into the artist and his motives), not necessarily by arguing the toss with anyone who cares to disagree with you or question you. I dare say its not so much your motives, but the way you've gone about your work in the last few weeks that gets people's back's up. You're clearly a fairly intelligent guy. Start letting your head rule your heart........ instead of thinking out of your arse. I think if you didn't want to read it, then you shouldn't have read it, you know heads and arses and all that. That was the place that post had to go, I mean, my nickname is in the topic and my motives, action and art were questioned, so where would you have me say it? I just gave graffers a cool idea in the other forum and then defended myself here, what's the issue? What did you contribute? The art is s**t, I'm a c**t, here's why... that's all I was saying rather than me saying 'yeah but no but yeah it's supposed to be crap, i recycled one of those canvasses and it had marker on it that bleeding through paint and I was trying to prove a point' and you all saying, yeah pull the other one. A passive platform like the internet where you have to click a link and scroll down a page to get to my post is hardly ramming it down your throats is it? But what about what you guys do with your graffiti tours and fanboy marketting, monopolies on certain coverage? Didn't see you speaking up on those issues. I paint illegal pictures all over the city for fucks sake, did you really think I was going to ask your permission to speak up? If you don't care... then don't care, don't click, don't read and assume I'm talking to other people... Play the ball, not the man. Stay safe..
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 21, 2008 0:35:56 GMT 1, cant see how you would get i am arrogant from that but again you have your own opinions... not at all mate, wasn't referring to you with those comments, that history line is something jayzBoy says a lot, I had a bit of a read around and saw it repeated like 7 times, just struck me is all.
cant see how you would get i am arrogant from that but again you have your own opinions... not at all mate, wasn't referring to you with those comments, that history line is something jayzBoy says a lot, I had a bit of a read around and saw it repeated like 7 times, just struck me is all.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by bullet on Jun 21, 2008 0:36:07 GMT 1, oh god, i just realised ive been reading this and not paying any attention what so ever.
anyone seen that thread about dogs arses. riveting.
oh god, i just realised ive been reading this and not paying any attention what so ever.
anyone seen that thread about dogs arses. riveting.
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by master on Jun 21, 2008 0:53:41 GMT 1, I have been reading this for past two weeks and it boils down to: TBE vs SAHORIA. You guys both have very valued points and both stand for what you truly believe in. Sahoria is very big Dface fan and value his work highly as for TBE is totally opposite and he's got his personal agenda against him? Unless you both come out and tell us what is this all truly about, it is very hard to understand. You can go around in circles till next millennium and engage greatest quotes and minds in the world, but unless you spill the beans and get to the bottom of this it will become endless…I can only make up my mind by facts not tittle-tattle so THEBLEADINGEDGE QUESTION: what did Dface do to you personally that you feel so offended by him? SAHORIA QUESTION: are you going to protect him because you truly believe that he is one of the greatest street artists or you protecting your investments and connections like many others on this forum do? PS. This is not intended to be an insult to any of you just an observation point of view to two sincere members on this forum with very strong point of – let’s say – differentiation!
I have been reading this for past two weeks and it boils down to: TBE vs SAHORIA. You guys both have very valued points and both stand for what you truly believe in. Sahoria is very big Dface fan and value his work highly as for TBE is totally opposite and he's got his personal agenda against him? Unless you both come out and tell us what is this all truly about, it is very hard to understand. You can go around in circles till next millennium and engage greatest quotes and minds in the world, but unless you spill the beans and get to the bottom of this it will become endless…I can only make up my mind by facts not tittle-tattle so THEBLEADINGEDGE QUESTION: what did Dface do to you personally that you feel so offended by him? SAHORIA QUESTION: are you going to protect him because you truly believe that he is one of the greatest street artists or you protecting your investments and connections like many others on this forum do? PS. This is not intended to be an insult to any of you just an observation point of view to two sincere members on this forum with very strong point of – let’s say – differentiation!
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by thebleedingedge on Jun 21, 2008 1:04:33 GMT 1, thats not what the thread is at all (to me anyway) and I answered that question earlier master, that card gets played if d gets me nicked, you want answers then his email is: dface@dface.co.uk
respect
thats not what the thread is at all (to me anyway) and I answered that question earlier master, that card gets played if d gets me nicked, you want answers then his email is: dface@dface.co.uk
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by sahoria on Jun 21, 2008 1:14:53 GMT 1, bleedingedge - read your post wrong - thanks...think have to agree to disagree on some things....but appreciate your response....
master - i appreciate d* work for what it is... i like many different artists from banksy/josh keyes/parla/neverwork/rourke list goes one... each one i find something that i can relate too... sometimes i like an art piece just because i have attraction to it...other times i am drawn to artists work because of the messages he/she gets across...
josh keyes love his art pieces because it has strong message behind it... it makes me ask questions rather than forcing answers onto me... d* work i find playful... i dont know what it is about his work to be honest but there is that attraction that draws me to some of his art pieces. possibly from personal experience of speaking to him also and that is the same for alot of other artists i speak too.
curious george written in another thread about no matter what people say obviously they dont want there art pieces to drop in value... is human nature... that is not the reason why i have posted here though... we both have different opinions about d* and think always will.... i dont want to come across to anyone that it is me vs bleedingedge (dont think i have that much importance at all).... sure he/she feels the same way.... dont personally want bleedingedge to think that neither... thread was about £80 canvas and think slowly drifted away from that so whoever posted original topic apologies if i contributed to that....s
bleedingedge - read your post wrong - thanks...think have to agree to disagree on some things....but appreciate your response....
master - i appreciate d* work for what it is... i like many different artists from banksy/josh keyes/parla/neverwork/rourke list goes one... each one i find something that i can relate too... sometimes i like an art piece just because i have attraction to it...other times i am drawn to artists work because of the messages he/she gets across...
josh keyes love his art pieces because it has strong message behind it... it makes me ask questions rather than forcing answers onto me... d* work i find playful... i dont know what it is about his work to be honest but there is that attraction that draws me to some of his art pieces. possibly from personal experience of speaking to him also and that is the same for alot of other artists i speak too.
curious george written in another thread about no matter what people say obviously they dont want there art pieces to drop in value... is human nature... that is not the reason why i have posted here though... we both have different opinions about d* and think always will.... i dont want to come across to anyone that it is me vs bleedingedge (dont think i have that much importance at all).... sure he/she feels the same way.... dont personally want bleedingedge to think that neither... thread was about £80 canvas and think slowly drifted away from that so whoever posted original topic apologies if i contributed to that....s
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THE FAMOUS £80 CANVASES FROM BLEEDINGEDGES, by master on Jun 21, 2008 1:43:18 GMT 1, Maybe this is not personally sahoria vs tbe but both of your posts on here are one thing that keeps me coming on this forum. Sahoria, I think you are one of the best and most honest members of this forum and I love reading your posts, as they are always very informative, constructive, respective to all and very well written. TBE has also raised so many interesting questions and put his opinions forward very strongly and for that he deserves my respect. He made me think of everything else that is going on in this so called “street art scene” and it is for him that I realised that so many on here are just playing games and using this forum for their own gain and a few brownie points. He made me question everything and that is only a good thing in my opinion. So, sorry if I mess up this tread but I thank you both for your sincere input.
Maybe this is not personally sahoria vs tbe but both of your posts on here are one thing that keeps me coming on this forum. Sahoria, I think you are one of the best and most honest members of this forum and I love reading your posts, as they are always very informative, constructive, respective to all and very well written. TBE has also raised so many interesting questions and put his opinions forward very strongly and for that he deserves my respect. He made me think of everything else that is going on in this so called “street art scene” and it is for him that I realised that so many on here are just playing games and using this forum for their own gain and a few brownie points. He made me question everything and that is only a good thing in my opinion. So, sorry if I mess up this tread but I thank you both for your sincere input.
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